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When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after ''Film/TheAvengers'' showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like ''Chronicle'' too, ''The Fantastic Four''." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like ''Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four'', and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to ''Chronicle'', as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.

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When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after ''Film/TheAvengers'' ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like ''Chronicle'' too, ''The Fantastic Four''." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like ''Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four'', and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to ''Chronicle'', as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.
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* And now even more {{Jossed}}, because Sony has given the rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel instead.
** Actually Disney is basically now Joint custody with Sony, who plans to put out a Non-MCU animated Spider-Man movie a year after the MCU Spider-Man movie.

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* And now even more {{Jossed}}, because Sony has given joint custody to the rights to of Spider-Man back to with Marvel instead.
** Actually Disney is basically now Joint custody with Sony, who plans to put out a Non-MCU animated Spider-Man movie a year after the MCU Spider-Man movie.

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** Actually Disney is basically now Joint custody with Sony, who plans to put out a Non-MCU animated spider-man movie a year after the MCU spider-man movie.

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** Actually Disney is basically now Joint custody with Sony, who plans to put out a Non-MCU animated spider-man Spider-Man movie a year after the MCU spider-man Spider-Man movie.






[[WMG: The Four will someday go to an alternate universe and meet the former Film/FantasticFour]]

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[[WMG: The Four will someday go to an alternate universe and meet the former Film/FantasticFour]]Film/{{Fantastic Four|2005}}]]



** The origin flashback will use the classic origin of their spaceship passing through a cosmic storm. A sequel will reveal that the cosmic storm was an anomaly created by the Silver Surfer.



* In an attempt to apologize for the terrible movie, the sequel will double as a reboot by turning the "Fant4stic" evil (either because they get drunk with power, as demonstrated by how they essentially intimidated the government into giving them a state of the art laboratory, or by retconning Planet Zero as a dimension where Galactus transforms people into his heralds, as evidenced by "Crash Test" Doom). They eventually hop into the the dimension of an alternate Fantastic Four, who end up defeating the Fant4stic to symbolically wash Fox of the last movie.

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* In an attempt to apologize for the terrible movie, the sequel will double as a reboot by turning the "Fant4stic" evil (either because they get drunk with power, as demonstrated by how they essentially intimidated the government into giving them a state of the art laboratory, or by retconning Planet Zero as a dimension where Galactus transforms people into his heralds, as evidenced by "Crash Test" Doom). They eventually hop into the the dimension of an alternate Fantastic Four, who end up defeating the Fant4stic to symbolically wash Fox of the last movie.
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[[WMG:The movie's failure really ''was'' because of a lack of a StanLee cameo]]

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* [[http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/01/han-solo-spin-off-miles-teller-ansel-elgort And now with the news that Miles Teller]] is being considered for the Han Solo spinoff movie, perhaps they ''both'' were bribed to sabotage the production. The plot thickens...
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* A 1960s-set iteration of the team where they become celebrities after the space accident, only to wind up lost in space after another expedition. After years of stasis, they're finally recovered by the United States ... only to discover they're in a different time period (the current day) and reality (the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse) altogether. Obviously, an MCU Fantastic Four movie would establish the mutliverse, much like ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' expended into the cosmos and ''Film/DoctorStrange'' is set to introduce magic. Plus, literally transplanting them from one universe to the other would be a sick meta move.

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* A 1960s-set iteration of the team where they become celebrities after the space accident, only to wind up lost in space after another expedition. After years of stasis, they're finally recovered by the United States ... only to discover they're in a different time period (the current day) and reality (the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse) altogether. Obviously, an MCU Fantastic Four movie would establish the mutliverse, multiverse, much like ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' expended into the cosmos and ''Film/DoctorStrange'' is set to introduce magic. Plus, literally transplanting them from one universe to the other would be a sick meta move.



* [[http://screenrant.com/michael-b-jordan-boba-fett-star-wars-rumor Reportedly Disney's considering Michael B. Jordan to play Boba Fett]]. Maybe they offered him a Boba Fett spinoff movie if he sabotaged the production?

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* [[http://screenrant.com/michael-b-jordan-boba-fett-star-wars-rumor Reportedly Disney's considering Michael B. Jordan Jordan]] to play a LegacyCharacter version of Boba Fett]].Fett. Maybe they offered him a Boba Fett spinoff movie if he sabotaged the production?
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* Fox and Marvel announced a co-production deal for television shows based on ''Hellfire'' and ''Legion'' television shows, so ... Marvel may actually be getting the F4 movie rights back sooner than expected.




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* A 1960s-set iteration of the team where they become celebrities after the space accident, only to wind up lost in space after another expedition. After years of stasis, they're finally recovered by the United States ... only to discover they're in a different time period (the current day) and reality (the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse) altogether. Obviously, an MCU Fantastic Four movie would establish the mutliverse, much like ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' expended into the cosmos and ''Film/DoctorStrange'' is set to introduce magic. Plus, literally transplanting them from one universe to the other would be a sick meta move.

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[[WMG:Doctor Doom and Mole Man are not actually villains.]]
They're actors hired to play them.
* At this point, this would quite frankly be an improvement to the movie.
* Also, [[Film/MarvelOneShots the real Doctor Doom and Mole Man are waiting in the background, and they will]] ''[[Film/MarvelOneShots not]]'' [[Film/MarvelOneShots be happy with this.]]
* {{Jossed}} on Mole Man's count, they seem to be going for a more Ultimate approach where he is initially a member of the staff in the Baxter building.
** Doubly Jossed given that Tim Blake Nelson's character isn't even Harvey Elder or remotely based on him.
* Jossed. It's Doctor Doom alright.




[[WMG:Doctor Doom and Mole Man are not actually villains.]]
They're actors hired to play them.
* At this point, this would quite frankly be an improvement to the movie.
* Also, [[Film/MarvelOneShots the real Doctor Doom and Mole Man are waiting in the background, and they will]] ''[[Film/MarvelOneShots not]]'' [[Film/MarvelOneShots be happy with this.]]
* {{Jossed}} on Mole Man's count, they seem to be going for a more Ultimate approach where he is initially a member of the staff in the Baxter building.
** Doubly Jossed given that Tim Blake Nelson's character isn't even Harvey Elder or remotely based on him.
* Jossed. It's Doctor Doom alright.




[[WMG: Fox can't do an ''X-Men/Fantastic Four'' crossover...]]
In the same way that they can't make an ''X-Men'' TV series - they don't have the legal rights to make either happen. In spite of the rumors to the contrary, the legal fine print that prevents them from doing either of those things, and it should be worth noting that they purchased the ''X-Men'' and ''Fantastic Four'' movie rights at separate times, which most likely disallows them from making a crossover.

A rumored script leak that Fox tried to cover up involved several allusions to Mutants in an earlier revision that were completely removed later on, and the movie is set in a completely different setting. This might be because Fox found out that they aren't able to cross the characters over.

Any mention of a potential crossover thus far has actually just been Fox trying to raise interest for this movie or the hypothetical crossover in hopes that they can drum up the necessary legal support from Disney to make a deal happen. As it stands, Fox may be able to make an ''X-Men Cinematic Universe'', but they can't make a ''Fox-Marvel Cinematic Universe''.

[[WMG:The differences between the Fantastic Four and the reboot version is a result of poor communication.]]
When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after ''Film/TheAvengers'' showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like ''Chronicle'' too, ''The Fantastic Four''." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like ''Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four'', and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to ''Chronicle'', as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.

* Adveristing part has been {{Jossed}} as Trank said in an interview that [[http://collider.com/the-fantastic-four-movie-details-josh-trank/ there is little marketing due to him wishing to go back to the old school way of not showing too much]].
** Un-Jossed. The movie's marketing was invisible because the final product really wasn't well-received in the slightest.

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\n[[WMG: Fox can't do an ''X-Men/Fantastic Four'' crossover...* Jossed, [[http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/fantastic-x-men-not-film-universe-article-1.2314517 Kinberg has confirmed there will not be a crossover.]]
In the same way that they can't make an ''X-Men'' TV series - they don't have the legal rights to make either happen. In spite of the rumors to the contrary, the legal fine print that prevents them from doing either of those things, and it should be worth noting that they purchased the ''X-Men'' and ''Fantastic Four'' movie rights at separate times, which most likely disallows them from making a crossover.

A rumored script leak that Fox tried to cover up involved several allusions to Mutants in an earlier revision that were completely removed later on, and the movie is set in a completely different setting. This might be because Fox found out that they aren't able to cross the characters over.

Any mention of a potential crossover thus far has actually just been Fox trying to raise interest for this movie or the hypothetical crossover in hopes that they can drum up the necessary legal support from Disney to make a deal happen. As it stands, Fox may be able to make an ''X-Men Cinematic Universe'', but they can't make a ''Fox-Marvel Cinematic Universe''.

[[WMG:The differences between the Fantastic Four and the reboot version is a result of poor communication.]]
When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after ''Film/TheAvengers'' showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like ''Chronicle'' too, ''The Fantastic Four''." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like ''Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four'', and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to ''Chronicle'', as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.

* Adveristing part has been {{Jossed}} as Trank said in an interview that [[http://collider.com/the-fantastic-four-movie-details-josh-trank/ there is little marketing due to him wishing to go back to the old school way of not showing too much]].
** Un-Jossed. The movie's marketing was invisible because the final product really wasn't well-received in the slightest.



[[WMG: It's actually a ''Chronicle'' sequel and the characters are all comic fans playing out their fantasies]]
* The part about it being a StealthSequel to ''Chronicle'' might not be too far off. One supposed draft of the movie had the crystals from the movie appearing.



[[WMG: Annihilus and his Annihilation wave will appear as the BigBad of the sequel]]
Given the apparent prominence of the Negative Zone in this film an eventual appearance by them seems inevitable.






[[WMG: Doom is actually Joey from ''Hackers'']]
In 1995's Film/{{Hackers}}, the character Joey suggests "Doctor Doom" as his hacker alias. Phreak dismisses him, saying "You're hopeless, man! Hopeless!" However, Joey proves to not be hopeless by the film's end. Perhaps he adopts the Doctor Doom handle and meets Reed Richards?



[[WMG: Kang The Conqueror will be the antagonist of the sequel.]]
James Gunn recently confirmed that Fox owns the rights to his character, and in the comics he is a descendant of Reed Richards.
* Good luck to ever [[StillbornFranchise seeing a sequel]] to this.


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[[WMG: Fox can't do an ''X-Men/Fantastic Four'' crossover...]]
In the same way that they can't make an ''X-Men'' TV series - they don't have the legal rights to make either happen. In spite of the rumors to the contrary, the legal fine print that prevents them from doing either of those things, and it should be worth noting that they purchased the ''X-Men'' and ''Fantastic Four'' movie rights at separate times, which most likely disallows them from making a crossover.

A rumored script leak that Fox tried to cover up involved several allusions to Mutants in an earlier revision that were completely removed later on, and the movie is set in a completely different setting. This might be because Fox found out that they aren't able to cross the characters over.

Any mention of a potential crossover thus far has actually just been Fox trying to raise interest for this movie or the hypothetical crossover in hopes that they can drum up the necessary legal support from Disney to make a deal happen. As it stands, Fox may be able to make an ''X-Men Cinematic Universe'', but they can't make a ''Fox-Marvel Cinematic Universe''.

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[[WMG: Annihilus and his Annihilation wave will appear as the BigBad of the sequel]]
Given the apparent prominence of the Negative Zone in this film an eventual appearance by them seems inevitable.

[[WMG: Doom is actually Joey from ''Hackers'']]
In 1995's Film/{{Hackers}}, the character Joey suggests "Doctor Doom" as his hacker alias. Phreak dismisses him, saying "You're hopeless, man! Hopeless!" However, Joey proves to not be hopeless by the film's end. Perhaps he adopts the Doctor Doom handle and meets Reed Richards?

[[WMG: Kang The Conqueror will be the antagonist of the sequel.]]
James Gunn recently confirmed that Fox owns the rights to his character, and in the comics he is a descendant of Reed Richards.
* Good luck to ever [[StillbornFranchise seeing a sequel]] to this.

[[WMG: It's actually a ''Chronicle'' sequel and the characters are all comic fans playing out their fantasies]]
* The part about it being a StealthSequel to ''Chronicle'' might not be too far off. One supposed draft of the movie had the crystals from the movie appearing.


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[[WMG:The differences between the Fantastic Four and the reboot version is a result of poor communication.]]
When a producer from Fox approached Josh Trank for directing the reboot, it was under rushed circumstances after ''Film/TheAvengers'' showed how lucrative superhero movies were getting again. The meeting probably involved formalities and buttering up before the producer said, "We want you to make a great movie like ''Chronicle'' too, ''The Fantastic Four''." Trank misinterpreted that statement as "We want you to make a great movie, like ''Chronicle 2: The Fantastic Four'', and assumed they were willing to produce a sequel to ''Chronicle'', as long as it was a homage to the Fantastic Four in certain places. The lack of advertising compared to other movies is due to someone finally realizing the misunderstanding between both parties, but before the movie could be redone to be a FF movie. The plan is to release what is made, but to downplay the changes to hide the mistake.

* Adveristing part has been {{Jossed}} as Trank said in an interview that [[http://collider.com/the-fantastic-four-movie-details-josh-trank/ there is little marketing due to him wishing to go back to the old school way of not showing too much]].
** Un-Jossed. The movie's marketing was invisible because the final product really wasn't well-received in the slightest.


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[[WMG:Fox is considering a shared-rights deal with Marvel, but is waiting to see how well ''Captain America: Civil War'' turns out]]
* Expect a Fantastic Four shared rights deal within literal days if Civil War is successful.

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[[WMG:The movie's failure really ''was'' because of a lack of a StanLee cameo]]
* Think about it, true believers! Every time Stan Lee cameos in a Marvel movie involving characters he created, it manages to be some kind of success, at least financially if not critically (even films like ''Daredevil'' and ''AS2'' were more financially disappointing than outright flops). Stan Lee is in fact a Marvel good luck charm, whose presence among his creations provides them with good luck. The lack of a Stan Lee blessing meant FF was doomed from the start.
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* [[http://screenrant.com/michael-b-jordan-boba-fett-star-wars-rumor Reportedly Disney's considering Michael B. Jordan to play Boba Fett]]. Maybe they offered him a Boba Fett spinoff movie if he sabotaged the production?
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* Anyone else having ComicStrip/TwistedToyfareTheatre flashbacks?
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*In an attempt to apologize for the terrible movie, the sequel will double as a reboot by turning the "Fant4stic" evil (either because they get drunk with power, as demonstrated by how they essentially intimidated the government into giving them a state of the art laboratory, or by retconning Planet Zero as a dimension where Galactus transforms people into his heralds, as evidenced by "Crash Test" Doom). They eventually hop into the the dimension of an alternate Fantastic Four, who end up defeating the Fant4stic to symbolically wash Fox of the last movie.
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* Jossed.

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* Jossed.
Jossed. Reed remains a firm good guy throughout and [[StillbornFranchise the odds of this receiving a sequel are astronomically low]].
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* Good luck to ever [[Main/StillbornFranchise seeing a sequel]] to this.

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* Good luck to ever [[Main/StillbornFranchise [[StillbornFranchise seeing a sequel]] to this.
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* Good luck to ever [[Main/StillbornFranchise seeing a sequel]] to this.
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* They could actually cast a black actress and [[DarkSkinnedBlond make Sue blonde anyway]].
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The fact that the movie is taking more inspiration from UltimateFantasticFour, this movie could have Reed's desire to change the world grow into a dark trait, setting him up to take up the name of The Maker in the sequel.

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The fact that the movie is taking more inspiration from UltimateFantasticFour, ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, this movie could have Reed's desire to change the world grow into a dark trait, setting him up to take up the name of The Maker in the sequel.
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*** And ''that's''' saying something!

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*** And ''that's''' '''that's''' saying something!
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*** And ''that's''' saying something!




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** Alternatively, Fox deliberately made the movie as bad as they possibly could to run the franchise into the ground so that when Marvel inevitably gets the rights back, it'll be too toxic to touch.
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[[WMG:Fox's contract requires that Sue Storm is blonde.]]
* The leaked Marvel/Sony contract showed what sorts of things they required to be true about Peter Parker and/or Spider-Man. Presumably there is a similar list of requirements associated with the Fantastic Four movie rights.
* The creators of this movie made it clear that they didn't care much about canon, so presumably many of the canonical elements of the film were ones they had no choice but to include.
* Neither Creator/KateMara nor Creator/JessicaAlba is naturally blonde, but both played blonde Sue Storms.
* Given that Creator/MichaelBJordan was cast first as Johnny Storm, the logical next step would have been to either (a) cast a black actress as Sue Storm, or (b) make Johnny and Sue not be siblings. But they did neither.
* So, it seems like Fox's contract requires that Johnny and Sue are siblings, and that Sue is blonde, but doesn't specify that they are white, or that they are biological siblings.
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** Another member of the team will get a RaceLift

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** Another member of the team will get a RaceLiftRaceLift.
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[[WMG:The movie's production was sabotaged by Disney.]]
Wacky conspiracy theory here.
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** Building on this, they'll use him in a capacity similar to [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Bucky]], with him supposedly dying in the accident only to return in the sequel.


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* It won't be a Fantastic Four movie at all, but a loose adaptation of ComicBook/{{FF}}. The movie will start well into the Fantastic Four's career (Reed and Sue are already married with kids, for example), and utilize much of the extended supporting cast from the comics. The focus will be on the established family relationships, particularly Franklin and Valeria Richards trying to live up to their parents' legacy.
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** Another member of the team will get a RaceLift


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* Doom will be involved in the main experiment that gives them powers but will not be the main villain yet.
* There will be another villain but Doom will be revealed to have been behind them all along.
* The origin story will be a quick flashback, and most of the movie will take place later when they're all used to their powers and functioning as a family unit.
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* Jossed. There are no Doombots in this movie - unless you interpret this version of the character as being one.

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* Jossed. There are no Doombots in this movie - unless you interpret this version of the character as being a malfunctioning one.



* Jossed. Blogger Doom never happened in the final cut. [[spoiler: He also never gets a chance to go back to Latveria, on account of being killed and all]].

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* Jossed. Blogger Doom never happened in the final cut. [[spoiler: He cut, though Victor is introduced as a BasementDweller. [[spoiler:He also never gets a chance to go back to Latveria, on account of being killed and all]].
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** Or just say they're biracial. [[MissingMom Their mother didn't appear]]. Nobody could tell she's not white. Probably most fans thought that was the case before Sue told Reed about the adoption.
* Another fantastic foe will be the main villain and Doom will have a cameo and[=/=]or be briefly mentioned since he's too well known to be completely excluded.
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* Maybe, this time, both Storm siblings will be black. Considering the whole "adopted interracial family" angle was barely even focused on in the 2015 film, maybe someone might decide to do just RaceLift Sue alongside Johnny.

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