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[[spoiler: Confirmed but she gives up soon after against her foe U13 Kakarotto saying she isn't ready to use it.]]
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[[spoiler: Confirmed but she gives up soon after against her foe U13 Kakarotto saying she isn't ready to use it.]]
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** After what happened in the fight between #16 and Eleim of U19 my guess is that if this does happen and (lets say U18 Goku wins) U12, U7, and U3 are offered a wish, #16 will give up is wish to universe 19.
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** After what happened in the fight between #16 and Eleim of U19 my guess is that if this does happen and (lets say U18 Goku wins) U12, U7, and U3 are offered a wish, #16 will give up is his wish to universe 19.
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** After what happened in the fight between #16 and Eleim of U19 my guess is that if this does happen and (lets say U18 Goku wins) U12, U7, and U3 are offered a wish, #16 will give up is wish to universe 19.
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** Please god no...And how is it aiming toward that at all? XXI has barely been hinted at in the main comic, and hasn't been referenced by any of the characters except the Vargas.
** Please god no...And how is it aiming toward that at all? XXI has barely been hinted at in the main comic, and hasn't been referenced by any of the characters except the Vargas.
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All the fighters will basically launch into a free-for-all, and 16 will fight U13 Kakarot.
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All the fighters will basically launch into a free-for-all, and 16 will fight U13 Kakarot.Kakarot.
[[WMG: The final battle seems like it's aiming between XXI and U16 Bra]]
Seems like..
[[WMG: The final battle seems like it's aiming between XXI and U16 Bra]]
Seems like..
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Come on, it is too perfect to let go, which he will be depends on your opnion of how well it is set up so far...
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Come on, it is too perfect to let go, which he will be depends on your opnion of how well it is set up so far...far...
[[WMG: Android 16 will kill U13 Kakarot.]]
He did say that he's hoping to be able to kill a Goku, and the U13 version is pretty much the only one he could kill without feeling guilty.
[[WMG: As an extension of the above (since 16 is out of the tournament at this point), eventually, the tournament will be overshadowed by a much more important conflict]]
All the fighters will basically launch into a free-for-all, and 16 will fight U13 Kakarot.
[[WMG: Android 16 will kill U13 Kakarot.]]
He did say that he's hoping to be able to kill a Goku, and the U13 version is pretty much the only one he could kill without feeling guilty.
[[WMG: As an extension of the above (since 16 is out of the tournament at this point), eventually, the tournament will be overshadowed by a much more important conflict]]
All the fighters will basically launch into a free-for-all, and 16 will fight U13 Kakarot.
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It would certainly explain why he goes evil in Bardock's vision.
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It would certainly explain why he goes evil in Bardock's vision.vision.
[[WMG: I'K'L will be an DeusExMachina / ChekhovsGun]]
Come on, it is too perfect to let go, which he will be depends on your opnion of how well it is set up so far...
[[WMG: I'K'L will be an DeusExMachina / ChekhovsGun]]
Come on, it is too perfect to let go, which he will be depends on your opnion of how well it is set up so far...
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** If that is true, XXI is terrifically powerful, if in this canon, a Legendary Super Saiyan's powers keep continuously growing, and it took only a few minutes for Broly overcome SSJ2 Vegetto, XXI bight be powerful enough to rip the multiverse apart with a thought...
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[[WMG: Match Predictions]]
Goku vs. Vegeta
* Vegeta wins, justified by the fact that Vegeta has two (albeit dubious) wins under his belt against Goku.
* Goku wins, justified by the advantage he had (and apparently maintained) after the Buu saga.
Bojack vs. Cell
* Saiyan Cells allowed him to improve.
Gast vs. King Piccolo
* More Nameks = More power
Goku vs. Vegeta
* Vegeta wins, justified by the fact that Vegeta has two (albeit dubious) wins under his belt against Goku.
* Goku wins, justified by the advantage he had (and apparently maintained) after the Buu saga.
Bojack vs. Cell
* Saiyan Cells allowed him to improve.
Gast vs. King Piccolo
* More Nameks = More power
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** I wouldn't speak for U19. They apparently require authorization from the leaders on their home world to use their war armor, which was granted off-screen for the sake of this tournament. Whatever they're going to wish for, it seems to be pretty important to them.
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Thus, we'll get the U18 Goku vs {{Superman}} fight we've always wanted!
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Thus, we'll get the U18 Goku vs {{Superman}} fight we've always wanted!wanted!
[[WMG: Vegito will be taken over by Captain Ginyu]]
It would certainly explain why he goes evil in Bardock's vision.
[[WMG: Vegito will be taken over by Captain Ginyu]]
It would certainly explain why he goes evil in Bardock's vision.
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[[WMG: To make an even more UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny, DC and Marvel will be integrated]]
Thus, we'll get the U18 Goku vs {{Superman}} fight we've always wanted!
Thus, we'll get the U18 Goku vs {{Superman}} fight we've always wanted!
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** Conversely, because Zen Buu can tell which of the members is not in his original body, he could be just flat out telling the heroes who it is after saying "this masquerade ends now" since it is interfering with his potential fights.
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The ones who get the wishes are U12 Trunks, U7 Gast Carcolh, and U3 Bardock. Each of them likely have a noble wish that the heroic fighters of U6, U9, U16, U18, and U19. U14's two fighters may not have problems with it either, considering they did end up as neutral characters in other universes.
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The ones who get the wishes are U12 Trunks, U7 Gast Carcolh, and U3 Bardock. Each of them likely have a noble wish that the heroic fighters of U6, U9, U16, U18, and U19.U19 would respect. U14's two fighters may not have problems with it either, considering they did end up as neutral characters in other universes.
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* In the cannon, on Namek, Vegeta said that the last super saiyan was 1,000 years ago, but blew himself up. Salagar has said that XXI is 1,000 years old and 1,000 years ago was when U5 diverged with the rest of the DBM ([[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4623&start=60 here]] and [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4608&start=30 here]]).
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* In the cannon, on Namek, Vegeta said that the last super saiyan was 1,000 years ago, but blew himself up. Salagar has said that XXI is 1,000 years old and 1,000 years ago was when U5 diverged with the rest of the DBM ([[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4623&start=60 here]] and [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4608&start=30 here]]).here]]).
[[WMG: Nappa will be the first to receive the Mystic Power-Up of the U13 fighters]]
U13 Vegeta and U13 Kakarot will probably be wary of the Mystic Power-Up overwriting their Super Saiyan Transformations and Raditz has been defeated in the tournament already. It would thus make sense for Nappa to be the guinea pig of sorts for the Mystic Power-Up, should Kakarot keep his word.
[[WMG: Nappa will be the first to receive the Mystic Power-Up of the U13 fighters]]
U13 Vegeta and U13 Kakarot will probably be wary of the Mystic Power-Up overwriting their Super Saiyan Transformations and Raditz has been defeated in the tournament already. It would thus make sense for Nappa to be the guinea pig of sorts for the Mystic Power-Up, should Kakarot keep his word.
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* I think Bardock's vision of the future of Bra telling Goku and Vegeta that not even they can stop Vegetto hints that Goku and Vegeta at least ''considered'' using the Fusion Dance to make Gogeta.
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[[WMG: The winner of the tournament will give their wishes to three universes that need it]]
The ones who get the wishes are U12 Trunks, U7 Gast Carcolh, and U3 Bardock. Each of them likely have a noble wish that the heroic fighters of U6, U9, U16, U18, and U19. U14's two fighters may not have problems with it either, considering they did end up as neutral characters in other universes.
The ones who get the wishes are U12 Trunks, U7 Gast Carcolh, and U3 Bardock. Each of them likely have a noble wish that the heroic fighters of U6, U9, U16, U18, and U19. U14's two fighters may not have problems with it either, considering they did end up as neutral characters in other universes.
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** Zen Buu has since noted that one of the members of that universe is not in his original body, and Frieza said that Ginyu is the only one with such an ability. So Ginyu's apparition is now more likely. Though Zen Buu's ability to notice a bodyswap makes his being possessed unlikely.
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* In the cannon, on Namek, Vegeta said that the last super saiyan was 1,000 years ago, but blew himself up. Salagar has said that XXI is 1,000 years old and that's when U5 diverged with the rest of the DBM ([[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4623&start=60 here]] and [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4608&start=30 here]]).
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* In the cannon, on Namek, Vegeta said that the last super saiyan was 1,000 years ago, but blew himself up. Salagar has said that XXI is 1,000 years old and that's 1,000 years ago was when U5 diverged with the rest of the DBM ([[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4623&start=60 here]] and [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4608&start=30 here]]).
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It seems likely, take a look at his appearance, he looks more like the Nameless Namek than the young King Piccolo of the manga. Just how he merged with Kami again though is anyone's guess.
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It seems likely, take a look at his appearance, he looks more like the Nameless Namek than the young King Piccolo of the manga. Just how he merged with Kami again though is anyone's guess.guess.
[[WMG: XXI is the Legendary Super Saiyan before Broly.]]
*In the cannon, on Namek, Vegeta said that the last super saiyan was 1,000 years ago, but blew himself up. Salagar has said that XXI is 1,000 years old and that's when U5 diverged with the rest of the DBM ([[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4623&start=60 here]] and [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4608&start=30 here]]).
[[WMG: XXI is the Legendary Super Saiyan before Broly.]]
*In the cannon, on Namek, Vegeta said that the last super saiyan was 1,000 years ago, but blew himself up. Salagar has said that XXI is 1,000 years old and that's when U5 diverged with the rest of the DBM ([[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4623&start=60 here]] and [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4608&start=30 here]]).
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* He will then disappear immediately afterwards.
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* He will then disappear immediately afterwards.afterwards.
[[WMG: King Piccolo of Universe 3 merged with Kami]]
It seems likely, take a look at his appearance, he looks more like the Nameless Namek than the young King Piccolo of the manga. Just how he merged with Kami again though is anyone's guess.
[[WMG: King Piccolo of Universe 3 merged with Kami]]
It seems likely, take a look at his appearance, he looks more like the Nameless Namek than the young King Piccolo of the manga. Just how he merged with Kami again though is anyone's guess.
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* If that's true, one can only hope that Android 21 is Son Goku
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Vegito says he will kill everyone if he has to and Frieza states Ginyu isn't dead. Likely, Ginyu body surfs to an unknown character and Vegito is trying to find him by attacking ''everyone''. Bra's statement to Goku and Vegeta is a response to them trying to stop his rampage. Since Piccolo claims all the universes are in danger its likely that either Ginyu has taken over someone truly dangerous or Zen Buu or XXI (potentially) are doing something to threaten every verse. Most likely, Zen Buu tries to steal the Vargas Technology so he can consume everyone across the multiverse; he's ending the masquerade because this has been his plan from the get go. Goku befriends a Cell Jr. somehow, probably due to Cell abandoning it or dying. The Super Namek I am convinced is ending Baddack's visions (note that his hand exits the frame, and that him saying "stop" is the last vision Baddack has.)
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Vegito says he will kill everyone if he has to and Frieza states Ginyu isn't dead. Likely, Ginyu body surfs to an unknown character and Vegito is trying to find him by attacking ''everyone''. Bra's statement to Goku and Vegeta is a response to them trying to stop his rampage. Since Piccolo claims all the universes are in danger its likely that either Ginyu has taken over someone truly dangerous or Zen Buu or XXI (potentially) are doing something to threaten every verse. Most likely, Zen Buu tries to steal the Vargas Technology so he can consume everyone across the multiverse; he's ending the masquerade because this has been his plan from the get go. Goku befriends a Cell Jr. somehow, probably due to Cell abandoning it or dying. The Super Namek I am convinced is ending Baddack's visions (note that his hand exits the frame, and that him saying "stop" is the last vision Baddack has.))
[[WMG: When Nappa dies, he will come back as a ghost for a few pages as a shout out to Team Four Star]]
* He will then disappear immediately afterwards.
[[WMG: When Nappa dies, he will come back as a ghost for a few pages as a shout out to Team Four Star]]
* He will then disappear immediately afterwards.
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*Based on the fact that Ginyu doesn't seem to be participating in the Tournament, this seems unlikely.
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** That doesn't mean it's not true, it just means that U9 Krillin never met him. It's possible that Grandpa Gohan or Master Roshi killed him.
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Vegito says he will kill everyone if he has to and Frieza state states Ginyu isn't dead. Likely, Ginyu body surfs to an unknown character and Vegito is trying to find him by attacking ''everyone''. Bra's statement to Goku and Vegeta is a response to them trying to stop his rampage. Since Piccolo claims all the universes are in danger its likely that either Ginyu has taken over someone truly dangerous or Zen Buu or XXI (potentially) are doing something to threaten every verse. Most likely, Zen Buu tries to steal the Vargas Technology so he can consume everyone across the multiverse; he's ending the masquerade because this has been his plan from the get go. Goku befriends a Cell Jr. somehow, probably due to Cell abandoning it or dying. The Super Namek I am convinced is ending Baddack's visions (note that his hand exits the frame, and that him saying "stop" is the last vision Baddack has.)
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Frieza's line about Ginyu being alive after all implies that Ginyu pretended to be dead, which means that at some point Ginyu will take over someone's body and pretend to be them (Most likely). Zen Buu saying "this masquerade ends now" could actually be Ginyu deciding to stop pretending to be Zen Buu.
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Frieza's line about Ginyu being alive after all implies that Ginyu pretended to be dead, which means that at some point Ginyu will take over someone's body and pretend to be them (Most likely). Zen Buu saying "this masquerade ends now" could actually be Ginyu deciding to stop pretending to be Zen Buu.Buu.
[[WMG: Explanations for Baddack's visions]]
Vegito says he will kill everyone if he has to and Frieza state Ginyu isn't dead. Likely, Ginyu body surfs to an unknown character and Vegito is trying to find him by attacking ''everyone''. Bra's statement to Goku and Vegeta is a response to them trying to stop his rampage. Since Piccolo claims all the universes are in danger its likely that either Ginyu has taken over someone truly dangerous or Zen Buu or XXI (potentially) are doing something to threaten every verse. Most likely, Zen Buu tries to steal the Vargas Technology so he can consume everyone across the multiverse; he's ending the masquerade because this has been his plan from the get go. Goku befriends a Cell Jr. somehow, probably due to Cell abandoning it or dying. The Super Namek I am convinced is ending Baddack's visions (note that his hand exits the frame, and that him saying "stop" is the last vision Baddack has.)
[[WMG: Explanations for Baddack's visions]]
Vegito says he will kill everyone if he has to and Frieza state Ginyu isn't dead. Likely, Ginyu body surfs to an unknown character and Vegito is trying to find him by attacking ''everyone''. Bra's statement to Goku and Vegeta is a response to them trying to stop his rampage. Since Piccolo claims all the universes are in danger its likely that either Ginyu has taken over someone truly dangerous or Zen Buu or XXI (potentially) are doing something to threaten every verse. Most likely, Zen Buu tries to steal the Vargas Technology so he can consume everyone across the multiverse; he's ending the masquerade because this has been his plan from the get go. Goku befriends a Cell Jr. somehow, probably due to Cell abandoning it or dying. The Super Namek I am convinced is ending Baddack's visions (note that his hand exits the frame, and that him saying "stop" is the last vision Baddack has.)
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* Some of them have been stated in the novelization. The U7 Namekian wants to bring back the Namekian race, and U12 Trunks wants for #16 to become a human.
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* Some of them have been stated in the novelization. The U7 Namekian wants to bring back the Namekian race, and U12 Trunks wants for #16 to become a human.human.
[[WMG: Ginyu will possess Zen Buu]]
Frieza's line about Ginyu being alive after all implies that Ginyu pretended to be dead, which means that at some point Ginyu will take over someone's body and pretend to be them (Most likely). Zen Buu saying "this masquerade ends now" could actually be Ginyu deciding to stop pretending to be Zen Buu.
[[WMG: Ginyu will possess Zen Buu]]
Frieza's line about Ginyu being alive after all implies that Ginyu pretended to be dead, which means that at some point Ginyu will take over someone's body and pretend to be them (Most likely). Zen Buu saying "this masquerade ends now" could actually be Ginyu deciding to stop pretending to be Zen Buu.
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[[WMG: XXI is the adversary who sealed the Old Kai in the Z-Sword, without ever being defeated.]]
Salagir has stated, [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4623&start=60 for example]] [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4608&start=30 here]], that A) XXI is more than 1000 years old, and B) U5 diverged more than 1000 years before DBM. Seriously, how many notable characters from the Dragon Ball universe could fit? We only have either Buu (and we already have U4 and U11 Buu), a Kaioshin (and we already have U1 South Kaioshin), or that guy (more suggestions accepted). That guy could be a serious threat, since he has had millions of years to get stronger. Besides, the apparition of U9 Old Kai would somewhat prepare the ground for its apparition, being the only one in the 20 universes that has faced ¿him? before.
Salagir has stated, [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4623&start=60 for example]] [[http://www.lunionsacre.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4608&start=30 here]], that A) XXI is more than 1000 years old, and B) U5 diverged more than 1000 years before DBM. Seriously, how many notable characters from the Dragon Ball universe could fit? We only have either Buu (and we already have U4 and U11 Buu), a Kaioshin (and we already have U1 South Kaioshin), or that guy (more suggestions accepted). That guy could be a serious threat, since he has had millions of years to get stronger. Besides, the apparition of U9 Old Kai would somewhat prepare the ground for its apparition, being the only one in the 20 universes that has faced ¿him? before.
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** It's pretty much impossible, since before facing Goku, he has to defeat the winner of the match Trunks/Vegeta (most likely Vegeta) and the one from the outcome Cell/Bojack/Tapion/Krillin (most likely Cell). Both of them are supposed to be stronger than him.
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* Nope. In page 150, Krillin doesn't recognize Goku at all, which means he has never met him, either good or evil.
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Since whoever win this thing will get 3 wishs from Universe 1 namekian Namekian Dragon balls i balls, I wonder what the wishes would bebe.
* Some of them have been stated in the novelization. The U7 Namekian wants to bring back the Namekian race, and U12 Trunks wants for #16 to become a human.
* Some of them have been stated in the novelization. The U7 Namekian wants to bring back the Namekian race, and U12 Trunks wants for #16 to become a human.
