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* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that happen to match the description of your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on ''Doom 4'', and both they and id Software belong to the same company. So a retcon that ''Doom'' and ''The Elder Scrolls'' [[CanonWelding are in the same shared...multiverse?]] wouldn't exactly be too far-fetched at this point.

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* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies rarely seen species of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that happen to match the description of your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on ''Doom 4'', and both they and id Software belong to the same company. So a retcon that ''Doom'' and ''The Elder Scrolls'' [[CanonWelding are in the same shared...multiverse?]] wouldn't exactly be too far-fetched at this point.
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[[WMG: ''Doom'' and its two sequels ''Doom II'' and ''Doom 64'' are a part of a bigger shared universe that consists of all the following...]]

- ''Harry Potter'' Film series (2001 - 2011)

- ''Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them'' (2016)

- ''Keeper Of The Lost Cities'' Book series (2012 - present)

- ''300'' (2006)

- ''Breaking Bad'' Trilogy (2008 - 2022)

- ''Deathwatch'' (2002)

- ''Overlord'' (2018)

- ''Grand Theft Auto IV'' and its two DLC's ''The Lost and Damned'' & ''The Ballad Of Gay Tony'' (2008)

- ''Grand Theft Auto V'' (2013)

- ''Bloodborne'' (2015)

- ''Silent Hill'', ''Silent Hill 2'' and ''Silent Hill 3'' (1999 - 2003)

- ''Transformers Prime'' and ''Transformers Prime Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising'' (2010 - 2013)

- ''Alan Wake'' (2010)

- ''Control'' (2019)

- ''Apocalypto'' (2006)

- ''Solomon Kane'' (2009)

- ''Centurion'' (2010)

- ''Bone Tomahawk'' (2015)

- ''The Revenant'' (2016)

- ''Tales From The Crypt Presents Demon Knight'' (1995)
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[[WMG: ''Doom'' and its two sequels ''Doom II'' and ''Doom 64'' are a part of a bigger shared universe that consists of all the following...]]

- ''Harry Potter'' Film series (2001 - 2011)

- ''Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them'' (2016)

- ''Keeper Of The Lost Cities'' Book series (2012 - present)

- ''300'' (2006)

- ''Breaking Bad'' Trilogy (2008 - 2022)

- ''Deathwatch'' (2002)

- ''Overlord'' (2018)

- ''Grand Theft Auto IV'' and its two DLC's ''The Lost and Damned'' & ''The Ballad Of Gay Tony'' (2008)

- ''Grand Theft Auto V'' (2013)

- ''Bloodborne'' (2015)

- ''Silent Hill'', ''Silent Hill 2'' and ''Silent Hill 3'' (1999 - 2003)

- ''Transformers Prime'' and ''Transformers Prime Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising'' (2010 - 2013)

- ''Alan Wake'' (2010)

- ''Control'' (2019)

- ''Apocalypto'' (2006)

- ''Solomon Kane'' (2009)

- ''Centurion'' (2010)

- ''Bone Tomahawk'' (2015)

- ''The Revenant'' (2016)

- ''Tales From The Crypt Presents Demon Knight'' (1995)
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* Well, when the developers made the game they didn't intend the levels to be abstract, but rather sprawling (Which is why they are very large). At the time they assumed that it looked realistic enough, and that's why the levels look as such. The only reason why people consider it abstract is ultimately because now it looks dated by modern standards. Otherwise, the level design makes sense (i.e E2M2).



[[WMG: The Exis Teleporter is the reason why the events of Resurrection of Evil take place.]]

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[[WMG: The Exis Exit Teleporter is the reason why the events of Resurrection of Evil take place.]]



[[WMG: The Exis Teleporter is what allowed the Doom Marine from RoE to survive.]]

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[[WMG: The Exis Exit Teleporter is what allowed the Doom Marine from RoE to survive.]]
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* Sandy Petersen mentioned in a Twitter comment (or post) mentioning that the Shotgun found in E3M6: Mt Erebus, surrounded by Imps is a case of environmental storytelling -- the demons are worshipping the shotgun on an altar. Perhaps the demons don't destroy the weapons or munitions is because they regard them as unholy artefacts to be preserved and worshipped rather then feared or destroyed.
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** Perhaps confirmed after all. [[spoiler:It's highly probable that the ''2016'' and ''Eternal'' Doomguy is the same as all the other Doomguy iterations, not just the original; and you ''do'' actually get to kill {{Satan}} in the final [=DLC=] of ''Eternal''.]]

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** Perhaps confirmed after all. [[spoiler:It's highly probable that the ''2016'' and ''Eternal'' classic-and-reboot Doomguy is the same as all the other Doomguy iterations, not just iterations (from ''3'', the original; novels, the comic book, etc.); and you ''do'' actually get to kill {{Satan}} in the final [=DLC=] of ''Eternal''.]]
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** ''Eternal'' josses this rather hard in that Doomguy kills both demons and angels (Maykrs), and not only kills the Khan Maykr (who's basically just Doom's version of Jesus), but in the DLC, [[spoiler:he fights and kills Davoth who is ''both God and Satan!'']] Therefore the more accurate joke would be that ''Doomguy'' is atheist.
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* Even kid-friendly heroes like Super Mario are all Doomguy.

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* Even kid-friendly heroes like [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros Super Mario are all Doomguy.
is Doomguy]], and Bowser and his minions were demons the whole time.
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* Maybe they're related?




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* Even kid-friendly heroes like Super Mario are all Doomguy.
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** Perhaps confirmed after all. [[spoiler:It's highly probable that the ''2016'' and ''Eternal'' Doomguy is the same as all the other Doomguy iterations, not just the original; and you ''do'' actually get to kill {{Satan}} in the final [=DLC=] of ''Eternal''.]]
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Think about it - why else would the Icon be a head on a wall? It was probably integrated into Hell's center, hence the biomechanical look and the fact that its "thrashing limbs" were never seen, meaning its body was probably inside the walls. [[spoiler:Only after the discovery of Argent Energy, ''a hundred years later'', would the Icon of Sin finally get to roam freely.]]

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Think about it - why else would the Icon be a head on a wall? It was probably integrated into Hell's center, hence the biomechanical look and the fact that its "thrashing limbs" were never seen, meaning its body was probably inside the walls. [[spoiler:Only after the discovery of Argent Energy, ''a a hundred years later'', of evolution and architecture changes would the Icon of Sin finally get to roam freely.]]

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** Even better? This means ''Maximum Doom'' is canon. Meaning that through the gigantic infinite massacre, the Doomguy's very presence has actually begun warping and ripping apart Hell's very reality. [[spoiler:[[DontExplainTheJoke A.K.A.: glitches.]]]]



In other words, the scientists mistakingly thought that the original demons were aliens, so they decided to experiment on prisoners using what they thought was alien DNA. Too bad that it was actually demon DNA, so they brought Hell to earth.

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In other words, the scientists mistakingly thought that the original demons were aliens, so they decided to experiment on prisoners using what they thought was alien DNA. Too bad that it was actually demon DNA, so they brought Hell to earth.earth.

[[WMG:The Icon of Sin was ''powering'' Hell back in the day.]]
Think about it - why else would the Icon be a head on a wall? It was probably integrated into Hell's center, hence the biomechanical look and the fact that its "thrashing limbs" were never seen, meaning its body was probably inside the walls. [[spoiler:Only after the discovery of Argent Energy, ''a hundred years later'', would the Icon of Sin finally get to roam freely.]]
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[[WMG: The Doomguy from the Doom comic is SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}.]]

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[[WMG: The Doomguy from the Doom comic is SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}.ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}.]]
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Goats' name is indicative and also the fact that if you look at his forehead when he ressurects he seems to be growing a horn, and Sarge is the FinalBoss of the movie who has the BFG, also if Destroyer was evil he would have became a Spider mastermind (chaingun).

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Goats' name is indicative and also the fact that if you look at his forehead when he ressurects he seems to be growing a horn, and Sarge is the FinalBoss of the movie who has the BFG, also if Destroyer was evil he would have became a Spider mastermind (chaingun).(chaingun).

[[WMG: The demons in the 2005 Doom movie really ARE demons, just that they were created by injecting humans with demon DNA.]]
In other words, the scientists mistakingly thought that the original demons were aliens, so they decided to experiment on prisoners using what they thought was alien DNA. Too bad that it was actually demon DNA, so they brought Hell to earth.

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* Technically, the theory could fit. The Mars base have been invaded and brought Hell into our dimension, due to a teleportation accident while they were working on it. Fittingly, you can't stay dead in Hell, so by the time the game starts, the player is, in a way, already dead. So, if he does die, he just gets resurrected. On Nightmare difficulty, this would make sense, since enemies respawn after a while. In the backstory for him, he's seen as a rather brutal person, but still a moral man. In the comic he was sent to Mars after killing a sergent who ordered him to fire on innocents, as in religion, it's a sin to kill a man. So Doomguy was already doomed to Hell, before the game even started. Thankfully, he can murder his way out.

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* Technically, the theory could fit. The Mars base have been invaded and brought Hell into our dimension, due to a teleportation accident while they were working on it. Fittingly, you can't stay dead in Hell, so by the time the game starts, the player is, in a way, already dead. So, if he does die, he just gets resurrected. On Nightmare difficulty, this would make sense, since enemies respawn after a while. In the backstory for him, he's seen as a rather brutal person, but still a moral man. In the comic he was sent to Mars after killing a sergent sergeant who ordered him to fire on innocents, as in religion, it's a sin to kill a man. So Doomguy was already doomed to Hell, before the game even started. Thankfully, he can murder his way out.
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[[WMG: Every single Doomwad you've ever played is canonical.]]
* Every single Doomguy-starring wad you've ever played happened to Doomguy during his infinite war between ''Doom 64'' and '16. Yup, even Pirate Doom, Hell doesn't have to make sense. And no wonder he went somewhat mad, since he was constantly shifting between what appeared to be Earth, Mars, outer space or Hell again.
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** Funnily enough, modern DOOM lends some credence to the multiverse theory, as it's implied that [[spoiler:Doomguy's original Earth is not the same one as ''2016''/''Eternal''[='s=]]].

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** Funnily enough, modern DOOM lends some credence to the multiverse theory, as it's implied that [[spoiler:Doomguy's Doomguy's original Earth is not the same one as ''2016''/''Eternal''[='s=]]].the one in ''2016''/''Eternal''.
** And ''Videogame/WolfensteinYoungblood'' basically confirmed it by revealing a ''Videogame/{{Wolfenstein}}'' multiverse, which lends credence to the idea that all the Creator/IdSoftware games take place in a shared multiverse (which handily explains away continuity errors between vastly different game generations). So (for instance) Doom '16 might take place in the reality where Billy Blazkowicz woke up in the Nazi 60s, but Doomguy is from the reality where he killed mecha-Hitler in 1945.
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** Jossed. Not only does Satan not appear, but [[spoiler:your character ''is'' the original Doomguy]].




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** Jossed by ''VideoGame/DoomEternal''. [[spoiler:It's a distant sequel starring the original Doomguy.]]




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** Funnily enough, modern DOOM lends some credence to the multiverse theory, as it's implied that [[spoiler:Doomguy's original Earth is not the same one as ''2016''/''Eternal''[='s=]]].
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Once you beat level 11 (Cirlce of death) in Doom II, Doomguy is left alone in the demon infested Earth while the rest of the population is fleeing to safety. We know Earth Control is still contacting him and asking him to deal with the invasion all by himself. Why aren't they sending at least a squad? Why aren't they sending any equipment to have those tasks more easily done? Simple, Earth Control is fetch questing Doomguy to death. A [[OneManArmy one man army]] who has, single-handedly, taken out legions of ferocious demons, has been in and out of Hell like it has a revolving door while killing every creature in his path may [[AxCrazy not be that sane after all]](just check out the Doom comicbook). The fact that this same man is the most ferocious warrior alive makes things more frightening. The only solution is to keep him busy on Earth, where death is certain, in the hopes that he's killed and the remaining humans can come home to mop up any other monsters. [[GoneHorriblyRight But Doomguy is such a badass that he ended up in the core of hell, blew Satan's brains out with a rocket launcher and destroyed hell itself.]]

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Once you beat level 11 (Cirlce of death) in Doom II, Doomguy is left alone in the demon infested Earth while the rest of the population is fleeing to safety. We know Earth Control is still contacting him and asking him to deal with the invasion all by himself. Why aren't they sending at least a squad? Why aren't they sending any equipment to have those tasks more easily done? Simple, Earth Control is fetch questing Doomguy to death. A [[OneManArmy one man army]] who has, single-handedly, taken out legions of ferocious demons, has been in and out of Hell like it has a revolving door while killing every creature in his path may [[AxCrazy not be that sane after all]](just check out the Doom comicbook). The fact that this same man is the most ferocious warrior alive makes things more frightening. The only solution is to keep him busy on Earth, where death is certain, in the hopes that he's killed and the remaining humans can come home to mop up any other monsters. [[GoneHorriblyRight But Doomguy is such a badass that he ended up in the core of hell, blew Satan's brains out with a rocket launcher and destroyed hell itself.]]]]

[[WMG: Goat and Sarge in the movie would of became a Baron of Hell and A Cyberdemon]]
Goats' name is indicative and also the fact that if you look at his forehead when he ressurects he seems to be growing a horn, and Sarge is the FinalBoss of the movie who has the BFG, also if Destroyer was evil he would have became a Spider mastermind (chaingun).
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* Half-confirmed; Doomguy is actually Keen's ''son'', not grandson.
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[[DoomRepercussionsOfEvil And then Doomguy was a zombie.]]

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[[DoomRepercussionsOfEvil [[Fanfic/DoomRepercussionsOfEvil And then Doomguy was a zombie.]]
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[[WMG: DOOM takes place in the same universe as CryOfFear and AfraidOfMonsters]]

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[[WMG: DOOM takes place in the same universe as CryOfFear ''VideoGame/CryOfFear'' and AfraidOfMonsters]]''VideoGame/AfraidOfMonsters'']]
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[[WMG:Doom takes place in the Warhammer40000 universe.]]

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[[WMG:Doom takes place in the Warhammer40000 TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 universe.]]
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* And Doomguy is one of the Hero's descendents. This will explain how Doomguy is so badass. He is a descendent of the Martian BadAss.

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* And Doomguy is one of the Hero's descendents. This will explain how Doomguy is so badass. He is a descendent of the Martian BadAss.
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* And Doomguy is one of the Hero's descendents. This will explain how Doomguy is so BadAss. He is a descendent of the Martian BadAss.

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* And Doomguy is one of the Hero's descendents. This will explain how Doomguy is so BadAss.badass. He is a descendent of the Martian BadAss.



* An interesting theory that this troper's friend made. Basically, humans on Earth eventually managed to get to Mars and its moons. However, the teleporter accidentally breached Hell, causing an invasion of Mars, its moons, and eventually Earth. The humans had enough technology to make Doomguy a BadAss, allowing him to defeat the demons (Therefore, the original Doomguy is "the Hero"). This is the events of the original Doom and Doom 2. However, the humans were so devastated by the war with Hell that they were pushed back several centuries. Doom 3 takes place AfterTheEnd where the descendents eventually go back to Mars, but since they weren't there at the first invasion, they didn't know why they shouldn't recreate the teleporter experiments, and HistoryRepeats. These are the events of Doom 3.

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* An interesting theory that this troper's friend made. Basically, humans on Earth eventually managed to get to Mars and its moons. However, the teleporter accidentally breached Hell, causing an invasion of Mars, its moons, and eventually Earth. The humans had enough technology to make Doomguy a BadAss, badass, allowing him to defeat the demons (Therefore, the original Doomguy is "the Hero"). This is the events of the original Doom and Doom 2. However, the humans were so devastated by the war with Hell that they were pushed back several centuries. Doom 3 takes place AfterTheEnd where the descendents eventually go back to Mars, but since they weren't there at the first invasion, they didn't know why they shouldn't recreate the teleporter experiments, and HistoryRepeats. These are the events of Doom 3.
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* No, hold on. Someone take this seriously for a second. Doomguy has been posessed, or transformed, or altered by Hell, but he's just so {{Badass}} that he ''hasn't even noticed''. And if he had noticed, it wouldn't stop him.

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* No, hold on. Someone take this seriously for a second. Doomguy has been posessed, or transformed, or altered by Hell, but he's just so {{Badass}} badass that he ''hasn't even noticed''. And if he had noticed, it wouldn't stop him.
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* This would also make sense in terms of the lore from the newest game. That part about trapping him in a temple matches pretty well with "but the ceiling fell, and they were trapped and unable to kill."
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Once you beat level 11 (Cirlce of death) in Doom II, Doomguy is left alone in the demon infested Earth while the rest of the population is fleeing to safety. We know Earth Control is still contacting him and asking him to deal with the invasion all by himself. Why aren't they sending at least a squad? Why aren't they sending any equipment to have those tasks more easily done? Simple, Earth Control is fetch questng Doomguy to death. A [[OneManArmy one man army]] who has taken single handedly legions of ferocius demons, has been in and out in Hell like if it had a revolving door and has been a long time alone solving mazes and killing may [[AxCrazy not be that sane afer all]](just check out the Doom comicbook), and the fact that that man is the most ferocius warrior alive makes things more frightening. The only solution is to keep him busy in Earth, where death is certain, in hopes he gets killed and they can come back home and take care of the remaining demons themselves. [[GoneHorriblyRight But Doomguy is such a badass that he ended up in the core of hell, blew Satan's barains out with a rocket launcher and destroyed hell itself.]]

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Once you beat level 11 (Cirlce of death) in Doom II, Doomguy is left alone in the demon infested Earth while the rest of the population is fleeing to safety. We know Earth Control is still contacting him and asking him to deal with the invasion all by himself. Why aren't they sending at least a squad? Why aren't they sending any equipment to have those tasks more easily done? Simple, Earth Control is fetch questng questing Doomguy to death. A [[OneManArmy one man army]] who has has, single-handedly, taken single handedly out legions of ferocius ferocious demons, has been in and out in of Hell like if it had has a revolving door and has been a long time alone solving mazes and while killing every creature in his path may [[AxCrazy not be that sane afer after all]](just check out the Doom comicbook), and the comicbook). The fact that that this same man is the most ferocius ferocious warrior alive makes things more frightening. The only solution is to keep him busy in on Earth, where death is certain, in the hopes he gets that he's killed and they can come back home and take care of the remaining demons themselves. humans can come home to mop up any other monsters. [[GoneHorriblyRight But Doomguy is such a badass that he ended up in the core of hell, blew Satan's barains brains out with a rocket launcher and destroyed hell itself.]]
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[[WMG: People from Earth are more affraid of Doomguy than the demons themselves.]]

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[[WMG: People from Earth are more affraid of Doomguy than the they are of demons themselves.]]
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Once you beat level 11 (Cirlce of death) in Doom II, Doomguy is left alone in the demon infested Earth while the rest of the population is fleeing to safety. We know Earth Control is still contacting him and asking him to deal with the invasion all by himself. Why aren't they sending at least a squad? Why aren't they sending any equipment to have those tasks more easily done? Simple, Earth Control is fetch questng Doomguy to death. A [[OneManArmy one man army]] who has taken single handedly legions of ferocius demons, has been in and out in Hell like if it had a revolving door and has been a long time alone solving mazes and killing may [[AxCrazy not be that sane afer all]], and the fact that that man is the most ferocius warrior alive makes things more frightening. The only solution is to keep him busy in Earth, where death is certain, in hopes he gets killed and they can come back home and take care of the remaining demons themselves. [[GoneHorriblyRight But Doomguy is such a badass that he ended up in the core of hell, blew Satan's barains out with a rocket launcher and destroyed hell itself.]]

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Once you beat level 11 (Cirlce of death) in Doom II, Doomguy is left alone in the demon infested Earth while the rest of the population is fleeing to safety. We know Earth Control is still contacting him and asking him to deal with the invasion all by himself. Why aren't they sending at least a squad? Why aren't they sending any equipment to have those tasks more easily done? Simple, Earth Control is fetch questng Doomguy to death. A [[OneManArmy one man army]] who has taken single handedly legions of ferocius demons, has been in and out in Hell like if it had a revolving door and has been a long time alone solving mazes and killing may [[AxCrazy not be that sane afer all]], all]](just check out the Doom comicbook), and the fact that that man is the most ferocius warrior alive makes things more frightening. The only solution is to keep him busy in Earth, where death is certain, in hopes he gets killed and they can come back home and take care of the remaining demons themselves. [[GoneHorriblyRight But Doomguy is such a badass that he ended up in the core of hell, blew Satan's barains out with a rocket launcher and destroyed hell itself.]]

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