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* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that happen to match the description of your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on ''Doom 4'', and both they and id Software belong to the same company. So a retcon that ''Doom'' and ''The Elder Scrolls'' [[CanonWelding are in the same shared...multiverse?]] wouldn't exactly be too far-fetched at this point.

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* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that happen to match the description of your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on ''Doom 4'', and both they and id Software belong to the same company. So a retcon that ''Doom'' and ''The Elder Scrolls'' [[CanonWelding are in the same shared...multiverse?]] wouldn't exactly be too far-fetched at this point.point.

[[WMG: People from Earth are more affraid of Doomguy than the demons themselves.]]
Once you beat level 11 (Cirlce of death) in Doom II, Doomguy is left alone in the demon infested Earth while the rest of the population is fleeing to safety. We know Earth Control is still contacting him and asking him to deal with the invasion all by himself. Why aren't they sending at least a squad? Why aren't they sending any equipment to have those tasks more easily done? Simple, Earth Control is fetch questng Doomguy to death. A [[OneManArmy one man army]] who has taken single handedly legions of ferocius demons, has been in and out in Hell like if it had a revolving door and has been a long time alone solving mazes and killing may [[AxCrazy not be that sane afer all]], and the fact that that man is the most ferocius warrior alive makes things more frightening. The only solution is to keep him busy in Earth, where death is certain, in hopes he gets killed and they can come back home and take care of the remaining demons themselves. [[GoneHorriblyRight But Doomguy is such a badass that he ended up in the core of hell, blew Satan's barains out with a rocket launcher and destroyed hell itself.]]
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* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that happen to match the description of your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on ''Doom 4'', and both they and id Software belong to the same company. So a retcon that ''Doom'' and ''The Elder Scrolls'' [[CanonWelding they are in the same shared...multiverse?]] wouldn't exactly be too far-fetched at this point.

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* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that happen to match the description of your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on ''Doom 4'', and both they and id Software belong to the same company. So a retcon that ''Doom'' and ''The Elder Scrolls'' [[CanonWelding they are in the same shared...multiverse?]] wouldn't exactly be too far-fetched at this point.
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[[WMG: The "Hell" in the Doom series is actually a [[Franchise/TheElderScrolls plane of Oblivion]]]]
* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that happen to match the description of your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on Doom 4, and both they and id Software belong to the same company. So a retcon that [[CanonWelding they are in the same shared...multiverse?]] wouldn't exactly be too far-fetched at this point.

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[[WMG: The "Hell" in the Doom ''Doom'' series is actually a [[Franchise/TheElderScrolls plane of Oblivion]]]]
* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that happen to match the description of your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on Doom 4, ''Doom 4'', and both they and id Software belong to the same company. So a retcon that ''Doom'' and ''The Elder Scrolls'' [[CanonWelding they are in the same shared...multiverse?]] wouldn't exactly be too far-fetched at this point.
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* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that resemble your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on Doom 4, and both they and id Software belong to the same company.

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* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that resemble happen to match the description of your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on Doom 4, and both they and id Software belong to the same company. So a retcon that [[CanonWelding they are in the same shared...multiverse?]] wouldn't exactly be too far-fetched at this point.
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** DOOM: Blindness

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** DOOM: BlindnessBlindness

[[WMG: The "Hell" in the Doom series is actually a [[Franchise/TheElderScrolls plane of Oblivion]]]]
* Since Hell in this series appears to be a separate world all its own in a parallel dimension that was linked by accident to the one that Earth and Mars were in, it's not too hard to imagine that all those monsters that Doomguy fights are SeldomSeenSpecies of Daedra and they came from one of the realms that resemble your typical FireAndBrimstoneHell (like Mehrunes Dagon's Deadlands or Peryite's Pits). And as a bonus, Bethesda Softworks worked on Doom 4, and both they and id Software belong to the same company.
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* It is stated to be an "origin story" and it takes place on Mars, the place that started the whole mess while DOOM 1 takes place on Phobos but that does mean that the marine you play as ''isn't'' Doomguy as this marine ''does'' go into hell and ''does'' take on the Cyberdemon [[ForgoneConclusion and because the Cyberdemon isn't dead in DOOM 1.....]]

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* It is stated to be an "origin story" and it takes place on Mars, the place that started the whole mess while DOOM 1 takes place on Phobos but that does mean that the marine you play as ''isn't'' Doomguy as this marine ''does'' go into hell and ''does'' take on the Cyberdemon [[ForgoneConclusion [[ForegoneConclusion and because the Cyberdemon isn't dead in DOOM 1.....]]
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* It is stated to be an "origin story" and it takes place on Mars, the place that started the whole mess while DOOM 1 takes place on Phobos but that does mean that the marine you play as ''isn't'' Doomguy as this marine ''does'' go into hell and ''does'' take on the Cyberdemon [[DoomedbyCanon and because the Cyberdemon isn't dead in DOOM 1.....]]

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* It is stated to be an "origin story" and it takes place on Mars, the place that started the whole mess while DOOM 1 takes place on Phobos but that does mean that the marine you play as ''isn't'' Doomguy as this marine ''does'' go into hell and ''does'' take on the Cyberdemon [[DoomedbyCanon [[ForgoneConclusion and because the Cyberdemon isn't dead in DOOM 1.....]]
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* It is stated to be an "origin story" and it takes place on Mars, the place that started the whole mess while DOOM 1 takes place on Phobos but that does mean that the marine you play as isn't Doomguy as this marine ''does'' go into hell and ''does'' take on the Cyberdemon [[DoomedbyCanon and because the Cyberdemon isn't dead in DOOM 1.....]]

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* It is stated to be an "origin story" and it takes place on Mars, the place that started the whole mess while DOOM 1 takes place on Phobos but that does mean that the marine you play as isn't ''isn't'' Doomguy as this marine ''does'' go into hell and ''does'' take on the Cyberdemon [[DoomedbyCanon and because the Cyberdemon isn't dead in DOOM 1.....]]
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[[WMG: DOOM 4 is a prequel to DOOM 1.]]
*It is stated to be an "origin story" and it takes place on Mars, the place that started the whole mess while DOOM 1 takes place on Phobos but that does mean that the marine you play as isn't Doomguy as this marine ''does'' go into hell and ''does'' take on the Cyberdemon [[DoomedbyCanon and because the Cyberdemon isn't dead in DOOM 1.....]]
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* You can find Doomguy in Duke Nukem 3D though?
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** In Doom 3, nearly everyone turns into zombies, except Doom Guy, and a hand full of stragglers, despite the fact that Hell had ample opportunity to turn him into one, and even the ghost like things at the beginning don't posses him.
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* No, really. It makes perfect sense! In the Doom Universe, nearly everyone is atheist, and thus does not notice the Rapture. The Battle of Good and Evil starts, and, in case you do not remember, Jesus actually was fighting evil! But, without swords and horses, but Miniguns and BFGS!

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* No, really. It makes perfect sense! In the Doom Universe, nearly everyone is atheist, and thus does not notice the Rapture. The Battle of Good and Evil starts, and, in case you do not remember, Jesus actually was fighting evil! But, without swords and horses, but Miniguns and BFGS!BFGS!

[[WMG: DOOM takes place in the same universe as CryOfFear and AfraidOfMonsters]]
*Think about it
** AOMDC: Overdose
** COF: Depression
** DOOM: Blindness
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* No, really. It makes perfect sense! In the Doom Universe, nearly everyone is atheist, and thus does not notice the Rapture. The Battle of Good and Evil starts, and, in case you do not remember, actually was fighting evil! But, without swords and horses, but Minuguns and BFGS!

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* No, really. It makes perfect sense! In the Doom Universe, nearly everyone is atheist, and thus does not notice the Rapture. The Battle of Good and Evil starts, and, in case you do not remember, Jesus actually was fighting evil! But, without swords and horses, but Minuguns Miniguns and BFGS!
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* Technically, the theory could fit. The Mars base have been invaded and brought Hell into our dimension, due to a teleportation accident while they were working on it. Fittingly, you can't stay dead in Hell, so by the time the game starts, the player is, in a way, already dead. So, if he does die, he just gets resurrected. On Nightmare difficulty, this would make sense, since enemies respawn after a while. In the backstory for him, he's seen as a rather brutal person, but still a moral man. In the comic he was sent to Mars after killing a sergent who ordered him to fire on innocents, as in religion, it's a sin to kill a man. So Doomguy was already doomed to Hell, before the game even started. Thankfully, he can murder his way out.

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* Technically, the theory could fit. The Mars base have been invaded and brought Hell into our dimension, due to a teleportation accident while they were working on it. Fittingly, you can't stay dead in Hell, so by the time the game starts, the player is, in a way, already dead. So, if he does die, he just gets resurrected. On Nightmare difficulty, this would make sense, since enemies respawn after a while. In the backstory for him, he's seen as a rather brutal person, but still a moral man. In the comic he was sent to Mars after killing a sergent who ordered him to fire on innocents, as in religion, it's a sin to kill a man. So Doomguy was already doomed to Hell, before the game even started. Thankfully, he can murder his way out.out.

[[WMG: Doomguy is Jesus.]]
* No, really. It makes perfect sense! In the Doom Universe, nearly everyone is atheist, and thus does not notice the Rapture. The Battle of Good and Evil starts, and, in case you do not remember, actually was fighting evil! But, without swords and horses, but Minuguns and BFGS!
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[[WMG: The Doomguy is every video game hero ever.]]
He's become such a badass that he broke the very laws of space and time, becoming a universal constant, meaning he exists in all universes past, present, future, expired or yet to exist. Every game you play IS a doom game. Ranger? Doomguy. Freeman? Doomguy.
* YOU are doomguy.
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* Doom 1,2, Plutonia and TNT looks similar, has 32 levels and similar level structure. It seems unrealistic, so all these games are just an endless Hell's torment for a Doomguy.

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* Doom 1,2, Plutonia and TNT looks similar, has 32 levels and similar level structure. It seems unrealistic, so all these games are just an endless Hell's torment for a Doomguy.Doomguy.
* Technically, the theory could fit. The Mars base have been invaded and brought Hell into our dimension, due to a teleportation accident while they were working on it. Fittingly, you can't stay dead in Hell, so by the time the game starts, the player is, in a way, already dead. So, if he does die, he just gets resurrected. On Nightmare difficulty, this would make sense, since enemies respawn after a while. In the backstory for him, he's seen as a rather brutal person, but still a moral man. In the comic he was sent to Mars after killing a sergent who ordered him to fire on innocents, as in religion, it's a sin to kill a man. So Doomguy was already doomed to Hell, before the game even started. Thankfully, he can murder his way out.
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[[WMG: The DoomGuy is Gordon Freeman]]

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[[WMG: The DoomGuy Doom Guy is Gordon Freeman]]



[[WMG: The DoomGuy becomes Khorne]]

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[[WMG: The DoomGuy Doom Guy becomes Khorne]]



[[WMG: The Doomguy from the Doom comic is Deadpool.]]

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[[WMG: The Doomguy from the Doom comic is Deadpool.SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}.]]
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* EXCEPT... except that ROE explains that the Artifact was left behind by the demons during the very first invasion of Mars that occurred in the distant past. The Ancient Martians were unable to destroy the artifact, so they sealed in a chamber - where it was accidentally opened at the beginning of RoE.

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* EXCEPT... except that ROE explains that the Artifact was left behind by the demons during the very first invasion of Mars that occurred in the distant past. The Ancient Martians were unable to destroy the artifact, so they sealed it in a chamber - where it was accidentally opened at the beginning of RoE.
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*EXCEPT... except that ROE explains that the Artifact was left behind by the demons during the very first invasion of Mars that occurred in the distant past. The Ancient Martians were unable to destroy the artifact, so they sealed in a chamber - where it was accidentally opened at the beginning of RoE.
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* One of the Wolfenstein mobile games has B.J. Blazkowicz severely wound a Demon by blasting its arm and legs, and said damon swears revenge on his bloodline. Years later, Doom Guy fights the Cyberdemon, which has had cybernetic prosthetics installed.

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* One of the Wolfenstein mobile games has B.J. Blazkowicz severely wound a Demon by blasting its arm and legs, and said damon demon swears revenge on his bloodline. Years later, Doom Guy fights the Cyberdemon, which has had cybernetic prosthetics installed.



After the release of Doom 2, video game levels became drastically more realist, especially their layouts. After playing a game like Half Life 2 or more recent shooters like Uncharted it can be jarring to go back to games like Doom where the levels are more abstract and aren't made to resemble anything 'real'. Switches can reveal massive underground rooms or pits of toxic waste in surreal locations. These levels, though, are they really so abstract? Or is this merely a reflection of how the invading demons bring Hell with them? The levels get more abstract towards the ends of Doom 1 and 2, when the player gets closer to (or actually enters) hell itself, so obviously this abstraction is just part of how hell works.

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After the release of Doom 2, video game levels became drastically more realist, especially their layouts. After playing a game like Half Life 2 or more recent shooters like Uncharted it can be jarring to go back to games like Doom where the levels are more abstract and aren't made to resemble anything 'real'.real. Switches can reveal massive underground rooms or pits of toxic waste in surreal locations. These levels, though, are they really so abstract? Or is this merely a reflection of how the invading demons bring Hell with them? The levels get more abstract towards the ends of Doom 1 and 2, when the player gets closer to (or actually enters) hell itself, so obviously this abstraction is just part of how hell works.

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[[WMG: Doom 4 Will have you kill Satan while working with the main characters of Doom/Doom 2, Doom 3, and Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil. ]]

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[[WMG: Doom 4 Will will have you kill Satan while working with the main characters of Doom/Doom 2, Doom 3, and Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil. ]]
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* One of the Wolfenstein mobile games has B.J. Blazkowicz severely wound a Demon by blasting its arm and legs, and said damon swears revenge on his bloodline. Years later, Doom Guy fights the Cyberdemon, which has had cybernetic prosthetics installed.
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* They wear ''Stahlhelme'', and I could swear one of their random quotes sounds like 'Heil'. Bertruger is a Germanic name, and it's very likely there are Nazis in Hell.

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* They wear ''Stahlhelme'', and I could swear one of their random quotes sounds like 'Heil'. Bertruger is a Germanic name, and it's very likely there are Nazis in Hell.

[[WMG: The Doomguy is already dead and lives in
Hell.]]
* The whole backstory is in readme and why should we trust it?.
* Doomguy can "die" as much as he wants and respawn without weapons. He can't really die.
* The monsters can't die on "Nightmare".
* Doom 1,2, Plutonia and TNT looks similar, has 32 levels and similar level structure. It seems unrealistic, so all these games are just an endless Hell's torment for a Doomguy.
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**I thought the Delta Teleporter was trashed on your return because Betruger summoned some demons to wreck it and attempt strand you in Hell. The solution to the obvious question being, "Because the Soul Cube teleported you back, that's how."
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* During the initial part of the invasion in Doom 3, Sgt. Kelly orders his marines that "If you don't have a clear path back to HQ, stock up on ammo, establish a stronghold, and keep them at bay." Sure enough, a lot of the ammo and supply caches you find are hidden in defensible areas, sometimes guarded by converted marines and Z-Sec.
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** Every weapon except the BFG is used by an enemy. The DummiedOut rifle, the shotgun, and the chain gun are all used by zombies. The Rocket Launcher is used by the Cyberdemon, and variations by the Mancubus and Revenant. The plasma rifle is used by the Arachnotrons. The Spider Mastermind also uses a chaingun.
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* If you think about it, Cyberdemons do definitely look a lot like Bloodthirsters.
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McNeil says "Welcome Home", not "Welcome to a better place", or "paradise", or any other euphanism for Heaven. This would indicate that the Marine somehow survived and got back. Previously, there was an issue with this WMG because the Marine had no way to return to Mars, considering the teleporter he used had had no opposite teleporter in Hell, which would prevent any return trip. However, the Exis Teleporter solves this. It has been shown to be capable of being activated within Hell (which makes up the plot for the Lost Mission) so the Marine somehow fought his way to that teleporter and escaped back to Mars and then to Earth with Dr. McNeil. The demons also won't be able to follow them, because the teleporters require someone who knows how they work to maintain the portal (which are the roles of Ian McKormic, Dr. Meyes and Dr. McNeil when teleporting the main character. Not having a proper overseer destroys the Delta Teleporter when the Marine came back in Doom 3). The demons, in order to activate the teleporter, required Betruger to maintain the portal (who, at this moment, is kind of dead). They wouldn't be able to operate the teleporter without him, finally fully severing all direct ties between Hell and our universe.

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McNeil says "Welcome Home", not "Welcome to a better place", or "paradise", or any other euphanism for Heaven. This would indicate that the Marine somehow survived and got back. Previously, there was an issue with this WMG because the Marine had no way to return to Mars, considering the teleporter he used had had no opposite teleporter in Hell, which would prevent any return trip. However, the Exis Teleporter solves this. It has been shown to be capable of being activated within Hell (which makes up the plot for the Lost Mission) so the Marine somehow fought his way to that teleporter and escaped back to Mars and then to Earth with Dr. McNeil. The demons also won't be able to follow them, because the teleporters require someone who knows how they work to maintain the portal (which are the roles of Ian McKormic, Dr. Meyes and Dr. McNeil when teleporting the main character. Not having a proper overseer destroys the Delta Teleporter when the Marine came back in Doom 3). The demons, in order to activate the teleporter, required Betruger to maintain the portal (who, at this moment, is kind of dead). They wouldn't be able to operate the teleporter without him, finally fully severing all direct ties between Hell and our universe.universe.

[[WMG: The Commandos in ''Doom 3'' are Nazis.]]
* They wear ''Stahlhelme'', and I could swear one of their random quotes sounds like 'Heil'. Bertruger is a Germanic name, and it's very likely there are Nazis in Hell.
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* The Doom 2 RPG features a playable character named Blazkowicz (who uses the classic Doomguy's face). Probably not canon, but the Doomguy resembles BJ in more ways than one...
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[[WMG: EventHorizon and VideoGame/{{Doom}} are in the same universe]]

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[[WMG: EventHorizon Film/EventHorizon and VideoGame/{{Doom}} are in the same universe]]

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