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** But with the rising cost of development it may not be enough, you got to remember not everyone who bought DMC4 was a devil may cry fan, some might have been turned off to the series. But there is [[http://www.junkiemonkeys.com/devil-may-cry-trademark-pops-up-sequel-announcement-for-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc-imminent/ hope]]

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** But with the rising cost of development it may not be enough, you got to remember not everyone who bought DMC4 [=DMC4=] was a devil may cry fan, some might have been turned off to the series. But there is [[http://www.junkiemonkeys.com/devil-may-cry-trademark-pops-up-sequel-announcement-for-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc-imminent/ hope]]

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Figured out today that WMG pages are Spoilers Off. Making sure they follow the other spoilers-off pages of the franchise for consistency's sake.


!Per wiki policy, Administrivia/SpoilersOff applies here and all spoilers are unmarked. Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned.



* So... [[spoiler:the original Dante (for all intents and purposes, let's call him Dante Prime) will briefly meet up with his newest incarnation, give him some words of advice, possibly aid him once, and then depart as he says an awesomely-cheesy one-liner?]] That's the definition of win in [[Tropers/X2X my]] books.

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* So... [[spoiler:the the original Dante (for all intents and purposes, let's call him Dante Prime) will briefly meet up with his newest incarnation, give him some words of advice, possibly aid him once, and then depart as he says an awesomely-cheesy one-liner?]] one-liner? That's the definition of win in [[Tropers/X2X my]] books.



** Given Mundus's pride, even if he was doing good for the humans, he still views them as inferior to him [[spoiler:(just as Vergil did)]], so that bitch comment would still be in context. Mundus is never seen reveling in the fact that he's torturing human souls. He's never even seen interacting with souls at all. Though this part is extreme wild mass guessing, but I think the souls being driven mad in his tower is a necessity for Mundus, not a luxury. He needs the humans in his tower, he needs them to conform, or else he risks losing control. Sacrifice the souls of the few to save/control the masses. Got nothing for the furnace though.

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** Given Mundus's pride, even if he was doing good for the humans, he still views them as inferior to him [[spoiler:(just (just as Vergil did)]], did), so that bitch comment would still be in context. Mundus is never seen reveling in the fact that he's torturing human souls. He's never even seen interacting with souls at all. Though this part is extreme wild mass guessing, but I think the souls being driven mad in his tower is a necessity for Mundus, not a luxury. He needs the humans in his tower, he needs them to conform, or else he risks losing control. Sacrifice the souls of the few to save/control the masses. Got nothing for the furnace though.



* Somewhat right and somewhat wrong: [[spoiler:Limbo was hidden by Mundus' power, and at the end, demons fill the streets. Dante doesn't become mode-locked but throughout the game, use of devil trigger causes his hair to grey then white out; by the end, it's mostly white with flakes of grey and black.]] What you were wrong on was heaven's involvement, which besides a few Angels and mention of the battle for Earth, no mention of Heaven is made.

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* Somewhat right and somewhat wrong: [[spoiler:Limbo Limbo was hidden by Mundus' power, and at the end, demons fill the streets. Dante doesn't become mode-locked but throughout the game, use of devil trigger causes his hair to grey then white out; by the end, it's mostly white with flakes of grey and black.]] What you were wrong on was heaven's involvement, which besides a few Angels and mention of the battle for Earth, no mention of Heaven is made.



If you listen closely to the beginning of the mission of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeg_Xp1wGM0&feature=related the E3 gameplay footage]], there is a man speaking to Dante (who may be the leader of [[LaResistance the order]], [[spoiler:[[EvilTwin Ver]][[RebelLeader gil]]]]) and mentions the name Mundus, who, for those that don't know, was the main villain of the original ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry1''. There is other evidence to suggest this, as the bald guy clearly hates [[DisappearedDad Sparda]] and [[AGodAmI refers to himself as a god]].

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If you listen closely to the beginning of the mission of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeg_Xp1wGM0&feature=related the E3 gameplay footage]], there is a man speaking to Dante (who may be the leader of [[LaResistance the order]], [[spoiler:[[EvilTwin [[EvilTwin Ver]][[RebelLeader gil]]]]) gil]]) and mentions the name Mundus, who, for those that don't know, was the main villain of the original ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry1''. There is other evidence to suggest this, as the bald guy clearly hates [[DisappearedDad Sparda]] and [[AGodAmI refers to himself as a god]].



* Proven false, [[spoiler:but Vergil did set up Dante a little; however, he loves him and wishes to rule as brothers over humans.]]

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* Proven false, [[spoiler:but but Vergil did set up Dante a little; however, he loves him and wishes to rule as brothers over humans.]]
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* It's not clearly said but it might be the case [[spoiler:especially as he was able to use abilities on the level of old Vergil and stand up to Dante, who has been fighting his whole life]].

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* It's not clearly said but it might be the case [[spoiler:especially especially as he was able to use abilities on the level of old Vergil and stand up to Dante, who has been fighting his whole life]].
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* No, it was revealed to be [[spoiler:Mundus who upheld the line between.]]

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* No, it was revealed to be [[spoiler:Mundus Mundus who upheld the line between.]]
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* No, that's impossible as 616 Peter Parker was the only one to make the deal, it would have affected Ultimate Peter Parker [[spoiler:who died after making up with MJ]].

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* No, that's impossible as 616 Peter Parker was the only one to make the deal, it would have affected Ultimate Peter Parker [[spoiler:who who died after making up with MJ]].
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* {{Jossed}}. [[spoiler:Vergil is now the demon king.]]

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* {{Jossed}}. [[spoiler:Vergil Vergil is now the demon king.]]
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Therefore Classic Dante might appear [[spoiler: by escaping from being trapped in the Demon World at the conclusion of DMC2]] by finding a portal to the ''[=DmC=]'' universe. He might be [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne tricked into working for]] the BigBad of the game and would also set a contrast between [[RedOniBlueOni reDante's hotblooded brashness and idealism and Dante's cool, cynical, and professional demeanor]].

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Therefore Classic Dante might appear [[spoiler: by escaping from being trapped in the Demon World at the conclusion of DMC2]] by finding a portal to the ''[=DmC=]'' universe. He might be [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne tricked into working for]] the BigBad of the game and would also set a contrast between [[RedOniBlueOni reDante's hotblooded brashness and idealism and Dante's cool, cynical, and professional demeanor]].demeanor.



[[WMG: Hell is [[spoiler: TheManBehindTheMan]]]]
* We already know from the DLC that [[spoiler: Vergil goes over the deep end after arriving in Hell, and it seems the environment is actively appealing to his worse nature. This may sound a little Shin Megami Tensei-ish, but what if Hell actually has a Will of it's own, and it's using the strongest entity available (now Vergil) as it's King (or rather Pawn) to do it's bidding; we've seen it with Vergil, who's to say it wasn't the same with Mundus (no, this is not an attempt to [[DracoInLeatherPants put him in leather pants]])?]]

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[[WMG: Hell is [[spoiler: TheManBehindTheMan]]]]
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* We already know from the DLC that [[spoiler: Vergil goes over the deep end after arriving in Hell, and it seems the environment is actively appealing to his worse nature. This may sound a little Shin Megami Tensei-ish, but what if Hell actually has a Will of it's own, and it's using the strongest entity available (now Vergil) as it's King (or rather Pawn) to do it's bidding; we've seen it with Vergil, who's to say it wasn't the same with Mundus (no, this is not an attempt to [[DracoInLeatherPants put him in leather pants]])?]]
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* Yeah, I'm sorry, but this is Jossed.




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* Jossed




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* Just a skin.




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* Well, they do refer to the old games alright... just not in a good way.




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* It's not. They tried to make it a reboot, and then gave up.




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* Nope. It's a reboot... sort of.




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* "True to its roots"? Nah. They do feature the old appearance, but only during Devil Trigger.




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* Nope.




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** Are you kidding?



* Those were abandoned but you can get their verion of the new Dante white haired and there's up coming DLC with Dante's old outfit with the motion captured face still.

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* Those were abandoned but you can get their verion version of the new Dante white haired and there's up coming DLC with Dante's old outfit with the motion captured face still.




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** Well, not immediately after 2, but maybe 5?
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[[WMG: Vergil was corrupted by the Hellgate, not on his own.]]
Mundus' Hellgate flows with pure Demonic energy, Mundas himself is less of a god, more of a demonic battery, he specifically needs said energy to fuel his more Godlike feats, Vergil closing the Hellgate seems to involve using Yamato to absorb some of it, that pure, unfiltered Demonic energy can't have been good for him, he didn't absorb enough to be godlike, but just enough to twist his mind, while Virgil is a pragmatist, most of his concerns such as not rescuing Kat, and Killing Mundas' unborn child, while crappy, weren't wrong, it took his pragmatic mindset to twisted heights, seeing humans as incapable of saving themselves, he probably intended not to rule, but to guide, with his corruption manifesting as now wanting to rule, Vergils downfall is just a long sequence of his mind becoming more corrupted by the demonic energy he absorbed.

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