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[[WMG: The elderly {{Go}} player is none other than [[spoiler: Leonardo.]]]]

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[[WMG: The elderly {{Go}} TabletopGame/{{Go}} player is none other than [[spoiler: Leonardo.]]]]
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His exact country of descent is unknown, but he's been stated to be of MixedAncestry. So, because [[AmbiguouslyBrown his skin color seems to match up to that general region]], this troper postulates that he's Middle-Eastern.

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His exact country of descent is unknown, but he's been stated to be of MixedAncestry.mixed ancestry. So, because [[AmbiguouslyBrown his skin color seems to match up to that general region]], this troper postulates that he's Middle-Eastern.
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His exact country of descent is unknown, but he's been stated to be a HalfBreed. So, because [[AmbiguouslyBrown his skin color seems to match up to that general region]], this troper postulates that he's Middle-Eastern.

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His exact country of descent is unknown, but he's been stated to be a HalfBreed.of MixedAncestry. So, because [[AmbiguouslyBrown his skin color seems to match up to that general region]], this troper postulates that he's Middle-Eastern.
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* Or it IS Leonardo, and he got the ring he gave to her FROM here. Which she got from !FutureLeonardo as her father. Which makes the sex more than a little creepy
** * {{Jossed}}, as of season 2.

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* ** Or it IS Leonardo, and he got the ring he gave to her FROM here. Which she got from !FutureLeonardo [=!FutureLeonardo=] as her father. Which makes the sex more than a little creepy
** * *** {{Jossed}}, as of season 2.
2. [[spoiler: The elderly prisoner is the Pope's deposed twin brother, and clearly not Leonardo.]]



* [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]

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* [[spoiler: Confirmed. And zigzagged; he is the son of the current Pope, but actually is the nephew of the rightful Pope.]]




* [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]

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\n* [[spoiler: Confirmed.Confirmed and zigzagged. The brother is imprisoned because he is the rightful Pope and the Holy Creeper is a usurper.]]
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]

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* [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]]]

[[WMG: Da Vinci's Demons takes place in the same universe as True Detective.]]

While hardly unique to either series, both feature secret societies/cults that hold the circular nature of time to be central to their tenets; The Sons of Mithras preach that time is a river which flows in many directions, including circles, and the Yellow King cult preaches "time is a flat circle". Based on this incredibly flimsy evidence, I submit that the Yellow King cult of True Detective is a degenerate remnant of an evil offshoot of the Sons of Mithras.

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RuleOfDrama makes it quite likely that the Holy Creeper would have an unknown heir. (Yes, we're calling him "Holy Creeper", now. We're attempting to warrant a FanNickname trope. Just go with it.)

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RuleOfDrama makes it quite likely that the Holy Creeper would have an unknown heir.child. (Yes, we're calling him "Holy Creeper", now. We're attempting to warrant a FanNickname trope. Just go with it.)
* [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]



His imprisonment is [[spoiler: not just for leverage against Lucrezia]], and is also because of his opposition to [[spoiler: his brother]]. The reason why [[spoiler: Sixtus]] has not yet killed him is because he is still useful to him.

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His imprisonment is [[spoiler: not just for leverage against Lucrezia]], and is also because of his opposition to [[spoiler: his brother]]. The reason why [[spoiler: Sixtus]] has not yet killed him is because he is still useful to him.him.

* [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]
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** * {{Jossed}}, as of season 2.
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* Or it IS Leonardo, and he got the ring he gave to her FROM here. Which she got from !FutureLeonardo as her father. Which makes the sex more than a little creepy
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His imprisonment is [[spoiler: not just for leverage against Lucrezia]], and is also because of his opposition to [[spoiler: his brother]]. The reason why [[Sixtus]] has not yet killed him is because he believes that he can still find a use for him.

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His imprisonment is [[spoiler: not just for leverage against Lucrezia]], and is also because of his opposition to [[spoiler: his brother]]. The reason why [[Sixtus]] [[spoiler: Sixtus]] has not yet killed him is because he believes that he can is still find a use for useful to him.

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: The brother]] of the Holy Creeper has gathered info against him, in an effort to depose him.]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: The brother]] brother of the Holy Creeper has gathered info against him, in an effort to depose him.]]]]]]
His imprisonment is [[spoiler: not just for leverage against Lucrezia]], and is also because of his opposition to [[spoiler: his brother]]. The reason why [[Sixtus]] has not yet killed him is because he believes that he can still find a use for him.
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RuleOfDrama makes it quite likely that the Holy Creeper would have an unknown heir. (Yes, we're calling him "Holy Creeper", now. We're attempting to warrant a FanNickname trope. Just go with it.)

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RuleOfDrama makes it quite likely that the Holy Creeper would have an unknown heir. (Yes, we're calling him "Holy Creeper", now. We're attempting to warrant a FanNickname trope. Just go with it.))

[[WMG: Zoroaster is the estranged son of The Turk.]]
Within the context of the series, it's somewhat possible.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: The brother]] of the Holy Creeper has gathered info against him, in an effort to depose him.]]
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* {{Jossed}} as of Episode 9. [[spoiler: The elderly Go player is Lucretia Donati's father, held captive as leverage over her. The ring she gave Leonardo belonged to him.]]

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* {{Jossed}} {{Jossed}}, as of Episode 9.7. [[spoiler: The elderly Go player is Lucretia Donati's father, held captive as leverage over her. The ring she gave Leonardo belonged to him.]]
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* {{Jossed}} as of Episode 9. [[spoiler: The elderly Go player is Lucretia Donati's father, held captive as leverage over her. The ring she gave Leonardo belonged to him.]]
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[[WMG: Riario is the son of the pope, as opposed to his nephew.]]

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[[WMG: Riario is the son of the pope, pope's son, as opposed to his nephew.]]
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RuleofDrama makes it quite likely that the Holy Creeper would have an unknown heir. (Yes, we're calling him "Holy Creeper", now. We're attempting to warrant a FanNickname trope. Just go with it.)

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RuleofDrama RuleOfDrama makes it quite likely that the Holy Creeper would have an unknown heir. (Yes, we're calling him "Holy Creeper", now. We're attempting to warrant a FanNickname trope. Just go with it.)
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RuleofDrama makes it quite likely that the Holy Creeper would have an unknown heir.

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RuleofDrama makes it quite likely that the Holy Creeper would have an unknown heir. (Yes, we're calling him "Holy Creeper", now. We're attempting to warrant a FanNickname trope. Just go with it.)

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[[spoiler: [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext His appearance in the cave that his childhood self visited]], in "The Tower", seemingly backs this up.]] "Time is a river."

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[[spoiler: [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext His appearance in the cave that his childhood self childhood-self visited]], in "The Tower", seemingly backs this up.]] "Time is a river."



[[spoiler: This works on the same lines as the above WMG.]]

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[[spoiler: This works on the same lines as the above WMG.]]]]

[[WMG: Riario is the son of the pope, as opposed to his nephew.]]
RuleofDrama makes it quite likely that the Holy Creeper would have an unknown heir.
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[[spoiler: [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext His appearance in the cave that his childhood self visited]], in "The Tower", seemingly backs this up.]] "Time is a river."

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[[spoiler: [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext His appearance in the cave that his childhood self visited]], in "The Tower", seemingly backs this up.]] "Time is a river.""

[[WMG: Leo is The Turk.]]
[[spoiler: This works on the same lines as the above WMG.]]
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[[WMG: Zoroaster is a MeaningfulName.]]
He may be a descendant of the historical Zoroaster, who founded the Persian religion of Zoroastrianism. As such, he could easily fit into the Sons Of Mithras' conspiracy.

[[WMG: Zoroaster is part Arab.]]
His exact country of descent is unknown, but he's been stated to be a HalfBreed. So, because [[AmbiguouslyBrown his skin color seems to match up to that general region]], this troper postulates that he's Middle-Eastern.

[[WMG: The elderly {{Go}} player is none other than [[spoiler: Leonardo.]]]]
[[spoiler: [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext His appearance in the cave that his childhood self visited]], in "The Tower", seemingly backs this up.]] "Time is a river."

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