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After digging through the Westergaard clan's backstory from historians, journals, and eyewitness accounts, Elsa and Anna also point out to other kingdoms about the lack of cohesion and infighting between the 13 brothers, and how it contributed in the downfall of Hans's family. Elsa and Anna point out that [[TheSonsAndTheSpears had the king of the Southern Isles taught his 13 sons to believe that strength lies in unity]] rather than the SocialDarwinist nonsense he raised them in, then the Westergaards themselves would have been a force to be reckoned with.

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After digging through the Westergaard clan's backstory from historians, journals, and eyewitness accounts, Elsa and Anna also the two sisters point out to other kingdoms about the lack of cohesion and infighting between the 13 brothers, brothers and how it contributed in the downfall of Hans's family.to their downfall. Elsa and Anna point out that [[TheSonsAndTheSpears had the king of the Southern Isles taught his 13 sons to believe that strength lies in unity]] rather than the SocialDarwinist nonsense he raised them in, then the Westergaards themselves would have been a force to be reckoned with.
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* Perhaps a variation could involve subverting ThickerThanWater, EvenEvilCanBeLoved, and EvenEvilHasLovedOnes as well. Hans has a younger sister whom he didn't mention about, knowing she's far behind to ascend his kingdom's throne. They were inseparable in childhood, but became distant as they grew up. She doesn't believe in his crimes against Arendelle, thinking he's still making it up even when their 12 older brothers tell her about it. Hans's sister still believes in their bond, but being the deceptive man that he is, he tricks her into helping him get his revenge against Elsa and Anna. At the climax, when he reveals he manipulated her and taunts her for being a naïve little girl who's easily dupable, his sister punches him for breaking her heart, having realized he's BeyondRedemption. Witnessing Hans's betrayal a second time, it becomes a gut-wrenching scene for the heroes, who are left appalled to see why anyone would play such a despicable prank against their own family. When they mention Hans's crimes to his sister, the heroes are glad to see that she's genuinely nice compared to the irredeemable monster that her brother chose to become. Hans ends up becoming her EvilCounterpart, having chosen to sideline his own family for personal gain. Even then, Hans's sister is torn between accepting that Hans deserves to be punished while at the same time struggling to comprehend how the brother whom she shared a special bond could do such a malicious act against her and what caused him to do such things.

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* Perhaps a variation could involve subverting ThickerThanWater, EvenEvilCanBeLoved, and EvenEvilHasLovedOnes as well. Hans has a younger sister whom he didn't mention about, knowing she's far behind to ascend his kingdom's throne. They were inseparable in childhood, but became distant as they grew up. She doesn't believe in his crimes against Arendelle, thinking he's still making it up even when their 12 older brothers tell her about it. Hans's sister still believes in their bond, but being the deceptive man that he is, he tricks her into helping him get his revenge against Elsa and Anna. At the climax, when he reveals he manipulated her and taunts her for being a naïve little girl who's easily dupable, his sister punches him for breaking her heart, having realized he's BeyondRedemption. Witnessing Hans's betrayal a second time, it becomes a gut-wrenching scene for the heroes, who are left appalled to see dumbfounded on why anyone would play such a despicable prank against their own family. When they mention Hans's crimes to his sister, the heroes are glad to see that she's genuinely nice compared to the irredeemable monster that her brother chose to become.is. Hans ends up becoming her EvilCounterpart, having chosen to sideline his own family for personal gain. Even then, Hans's his sister is torn between accepting that Hans deserves to be punished while at the same time and struggling to comprehend how the brother whom she shared a special bond could do such a be so malicious act against her and what caused drove him to do such things.
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** Kristoff's past as a Sami ice harvester who slept with a reindeer and his poverty. The king may even [[EvilCannotComprehendGood think]] he married Anna only [[GoldDigger for the riches]] and not out of true love, or that he shouldn't have risen above his station.

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** Kristoff's past as a Sami ice harvester who slept with a reindeer and his poverty. The king may even [[EvilCannotComprehendGood think]] he married Anna only [[GoldDigger for the riches]] and not out of true love, or that he shouldn't have risen above his station. Kristoff might also struggle to adapt to an urban environment like that of the Southern Isles' capital city.
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* Perhaps a variation could involve subverting ThickerThanWater, EvenEvilCanBeLoved, and EvenEvilHasLovedOnes as well. Hans has a younger sister whom he didn't mention about, knowing she's far behind to ascend his kingdom's throne. They were inseparable in childhood, but became distant as they grew up. She doesn't believe in his crimes against Arendelle, thinking he's still making it up even when their 12 older brothers tell her about it. Hans's sister still believes in their bond, but being the deceptive man that he is, he tricks her into helping him get his revenge against Elsa and Anna. At the climax, when he reveals he manipulated her and taunts her for being a naïve little girl who's easily dupable, his sister punches him for breaking her heart, having realized he's BeyondRedemption. Witnessing Hans's betrayal a second time, it becomes a gut-wrenching scene for the heroes, who are left appalled to see why anyone would play such a despicable prank against their own family. When they mention Hans's crimes to his sister, the heroes are glad to see that she's genuinely nice compared to the irredeemable monster that her brother chose to become. Hans ends up becoming her EvilCounterpart, having chosen to sideline his own family for personal gain.

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* Perhaps a variation could involve subverting ThickerThanWater, EvenEvilCanBeLoved, and EvenEvilHasLovedOnes as well. Hans has a younger sister whom he didn't mention about, knowing she's far behind to ascend his kingdom's throne. They were inseparable in childhood, but became distant as they grew up. She doesn't believe in his crimes against Arendelle, thinking he's still making it up even when their 12 older brothers tell her about it. Hans's sister still believes in their bond, but being the deceptive man that he is, he tricks her into helping him get his revenge against Elsa and Anna. At the climax, when he reveals he manipulated her and taunts her for being a naïve little girl who's easily dupable, his sister punches him for breaking her heart, having realized he's BeyondRedemption. Witnessing Hans's betrayal a second time, it becomes a gut-wrenching scene for the heroes, who are left appalled to see why anyone would play such a despicable prank against their own family. When they mention Hans's crimes to his sister, the heroes are glad to see that she's genuinely nice compared to the irredeemable monster that her brother chose to become. Hans ends up becoming her EvilCounterpart, having chosen to sideline his own family for personal gain.
gain. Even then, Hans's sister is torn between accepting that Hans deserves to be punished while at the same time struggling to comprehend how the brother whom she shared a special bond could do such a malicious act against her and what caused him to do such things.

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Ultimately, this could become a cross-cultural kerfuffle between the Southern Isles and Arendelle. What one would find normal and/or acceptable in the Isles would be seen as unacceptable or weird in Arendelle, and vice versa. [[SlobsVsSnobs On top of that]], Hans's family would see the Arendellers as a bunch of "unrefined and unsophisticated country bumpkins and yokels" who run a backwoods country and have NoSocialSkills, while the sisters could see the island kingdom's royal family as full of "high-nosed, pretentious and elitist" aristocrats. Plus, the heroes also wonder if even a small amount of love could ever thaw out Hans's metaphorically "frozen" heart and have him reconcile with his family.

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Ultimately, this could become a cross-cultural kerfuffle between the Southern Isles and Arendelle. What one would find normal and/or acceptable in the Isles would be seen as unacceptable or weird in Arendelle, and vice versa. [[SlobsVsSnobs On top of that]], Hans's family would see the Arendellers as a bunch of "unrefined and unsophisticated country bumpkins and yokels" who run a backwoods country and have NoSocialSkills, while the sisters could see the island kingdom's royal family as full of "high-nosed, pretentious and elitist" aristocrats. Plus, the heroes also wonder if even a small amount of love could ever would thaw out Hans's metaphorically "frozen" heart and have him reconcile with his family.
family, or if it's impossible to redeem him as he's too fixated with pursuing power over bonding with others.


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** Another variation of this could involve Hans coming over to Arendelle in youth and having a ChildhoodFriendRomance with Elsa, but as time passed and they grew up, they split apart and are now enemies.
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Ultimately, this could become a cross-cultural kerfuffle between the Southern Isles and Arendelle. What one would find normal and/or acceptable in the Isles would be seen as unacceptable or weird in Arendelle, and vice versa. [[SlobsVsSnobs On top of that]], Hans's family would see the Arendellers as a bunch of "unrefined and unsophisticated country bumpkins and yokels" who run a backwoods country and have NoSocialSkills, while the sisters could see the island kingdom's royal family as full of "high-nosed, pretentious and elitist" aristocrats.

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Ultimately, this could become a cross-cultural kerfuffle between the Southern Isles and Arendelle. What one would find normal and/or acceptable in the Isles would be seen as unacceptable or weird in Arendelle, and vice versa. [[SlobsVsSnobs On top of that]], Hans's family would see the Arendellers as a bunch of "unrefined and unsophisticated country bumpkins and yokels" who run a backwoods country and have NoSocialSkills, while the sisters could see the island kingdom's royal family as full of "high-nosed, pretentious and elitist" aristocrats.
aristocrats. Plus, the heroes also wonder if even a small amount of love could ever thaw out Hans's metaphorically "frozen" heart and have him reconcile with his family.
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After witnessing the general cynicism and duality in the Southern Isles, the heroes feel this was their weirdest trip ever, wondering how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being arguably the most powerful of all countries on the planet, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. That the locals have embraced the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge culture shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever find satisfaction even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge, or if he ever genuinely cared for others. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, he will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\

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After witnessing the general cynicism and duality in the Southern Isles, the heroes feel this was their weirdest trip ever, wondering how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being arguably the most powerful of all countries on the planet, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. That the locals have embraced the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge culture shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever find satisfaction be happy even if he won or spilled the blood of killed his own family in revenge, or if he ever even genuinely cared for others. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, he will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\



Conversely, Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't understand what they meant and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face out of envy or planning something against him, given his poor relationship with his brothers. Hans is also baffled on how the heroes found happiness despite their modest appearance while he remains miserable and dismisses love as a sign of weakness, but unaware that his self-hatred all prevent him from knowing what makes them happy. Being selfish makes it very impossible for Hans to embrace the necessary demands of friendship and love, as he finds them to be weaknesses that hold people back. [[TheRichWantToBeRicher He seeks fame and power]] by all means possible and will use any means to obtain it, but his greed is what caused his downfall. His belief in self-preservation and individualism above all things stop him from making genuine friendships, and thus Hans would have truly been LonelyAtTheTop had he conquered Arendelle. That he's willing to forsake any and all relationships for more power highlight his inability to understand love. Hans might also assume Kristoff has ulterior motives for marrying Anna [[EvilCannotComprehendGood like he did]] and [[WhatsHeGotThatIAintGot asks]] her WhatDoesSheSeeInHim despite his gruff appearance. The heroes point out that Kristoff and Anna married each other for love, and it's what he fails to understand.\\

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Conversely, Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't understand what they meant and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face out of envy or planning something against him, him given his poor relationship with his brothers. Hans is also baffled on wonders how the heroes found happiness despite their modest appearance while he remains miserable and dismisses love as a sign of weakness, but is unaware that his self-hatred all prevent him from knowing what makes them happy. Being selfish makes it very impossible for Hans to embrace the necessary demands of friendship and love, as he finds them to be weaknesses flaws that hold people back. [[TheRichWantToBeRicher He seeks fame and power]] by all means possible and will use any means to obtain it, but his greed is what caused his downfall. His belief in self-preservation and individualism above all things stop him from making genuine friendships, and thus Hans would have truly been LonelyAtTheTop had he conquered Arendelle. That he's willing to forsake any and all relationships for more power highlight his inability to understand love. Hans might also assume Kristoff has ulterior motives for marrying Anna [[EvilCannotComprehendGood like he did]] and [[WhatsHeGotThatIAintGot asks]] her WhatDoesSheSeeInHim despite his gruff appearance. The heroes point out that Kristoff and Anna married each other for love, and it's what he fails to understand.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being arguably the most powerful of all kingdoms on the planet, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. That the locals have embraced the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge cultural shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever find satisfaction even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge, or if he ever genuinely cared for others. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, he will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding After witnessing the general cynicism and duality surrounding in the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, Isles, the heroes are left outraged on feel this was their weirdest trip ever, wondering how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being arguably the most powerful of all kingdoms countries on the planet, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. That the locals have embraced the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge cultural culture shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever find satisfaction even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge, or if he ever genuinely cared for others. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, he will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\
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** Iduna's heritage as a member of the Northuldran tribe and why Agnarr married her despite her background. As King Runeard looked down at the Northuldra and wouldn't have accepted her as his daughter-in-law if he were alive, Hans's brothers could condescendingly call the sisters [[Literature/HarryPotter "half-breeds."]]

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** Iduna's heritage as a member of the Northuldran tribe and why Agnarr married her despite her background. As King Runeard looked down at the Northuldra and wouldn't have accepted her as his daughter-in-law if he were alive, Hans's brothers could condescendingly insultingly call the sisters [[Literature/HarryPotter "half-breeds."]]"half-breeds"]] or mongrels.
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* Perhaps a variation could involve subverting ThickerThanWater as well. Hans has a younger sister whom he didn't mention about, knowing she's far behind to ascend his kingdom's throne. They were inseparable in childhood, but became distant as they grew up. She doesn't believe in his crimes against Arendelle, thinking he's still making it up even when their 12 older brothers tell her about it. Hans's sister still believes in their bond, but being the deceptive man that he is, he tricks her into helping him get his revenge against Elsa and Anna. At the climax, when he reveals he manipulated her and taunts her for being a naïve little girl who's easily dupable, his sister punches him for breaking her heart, having realized he's BeyondRedemption. Witnessing Hans's betrayal a second time, it becomes a gut-wrenching scene for the heroes, who are left appalled to see why anyone would play such a despicable prank against their own family. When they mention Hans's crimes to his sister, the heroes are glad to see that she's genuinely nice compared to the irredeemable monster that her brother chose to become. Hans ends up becoming her EvilCounterpart, having chosen to sideline his own family for personal gain.

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* Perhaps a variation could involve subverting ThickerThanWater ThickerThanWater, EvenEvilCanBeLoved, and EvenEvilHasLovedOnes as well. Hans has a younger sister whom he didn't mention about, knowing she's far behind to ascend his kingdom's throne. They were inseparable in childhood, but became distant as they grew up. She doesn't believe in his crimes against Arendelle, thinking he's still making it up even when their 12 older brothers tell her about it. Hans's sister still believes in their bond, but being the deceptive man that he is, he tricks her into helping him get his revenge against Elsa and Anna. At the climax, when he reveals he manipulated her and taunts her for being a naïve little girl who's easily dupable, his sister punches him for breaking her heart, having realized he's BeyondRedemption. Witnessing Hans's betrayal a second time, it becomes a gut-wrenching scene for the heroes, who are left appalled to see why anyone would play such a despicable prank against their own family. When they mention Hans's crimes to his sister, the heroes are glad to see that she's genuinely nice compared to the irredeemable monster that her brother chose to become. Hans ends up becoming her EvilCounterpart, having chosen to sideline his own family for personal gain.
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being arguably the most powerful of all kingdoms on the planet, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. That the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge cultural shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever find satisfaction even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge, or if he ever genuinely cared for others. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, he will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being arguably the most powerful of all kingdoms on the planet, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. That the locals have chosen to accept embraced the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge cultural shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever find satisfaction even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge, or if he ever genuinely cared for others. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, he will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\



Conversely, Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face out of envy or planning something against him, given the negative experiences he's witnessed with his brothers. Hans is also baffled on how the heroes found happiness despite their modest appearance while he remains miserable and dismisses love as a sign of weakness, but unaware that his self-hatred all prevent him from knowing what makes them happy. Being selfish makes it very impossible for Hans to embrace the necessary demands of friendship and love, as he finds them to be weaknesses that hold people back. [[TheRichWantToBeRicher He seeks fame and power]] by all means possible and will use underhanded means to obtain that wealth, but his greed is what caused his downfall. His belief in self-preservation and individualism above all things stop him from making genuine friendships, and thus, Hans would have truly been LonelyAtTheTop had he conquered Arendelle. The fact that he's willing to forsake any and all relationships for more power highlight his inability to understand love. Hans might also assume Kristoff has ulterior motives for marrying Anna [[EvilCannotComprehendGood like he did]] and [[WhatsHeGotThatIAintGot asks]] her WhatDoesSheSeeInHim despite his gruff appearance. The heroes point out that Kristoff and Anna married each other for love, and it's what he fails to understand.\\

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Conversely, Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, meant and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face out of envy or planning something against him, given the negative experiences he's witnessed his poor relationship with his brothers. Hans is also baffled on how the heroes found happiness despite their modest appearance while he remains miserable and dismisses love as a sign of weakness, but unaware that his self-hatred all prevent him from knowing what makes them happy. Being selfish makes it very impossible for Hans to embrace the necessary demands of friendship and love, as he finds them to be weaknesses that hold people back. [[TheRichWantToBeRicher He seeks fame and power]] by all means possible and will use underhanded any means to obtain that wealth, it, but his greed is what caused his downfall. His belief in self-preservation and individualism above all things stop him from making genuine friendships, and thus, thus Hans would have truly been LonelyAtTheTop had he conquered Arendelle. The fact that That he's willing to forsake any and all relationships for more power highlight his inability to understand love. Hans might also assume Kristoff has ulterior motives for marrying Anna [[EvilCannotComprehendGood like he did]] and [[WhatsHeGotThatIAintGot asks]] her WhatDoesSheSeeInHim despite his gruff appearance. The heroes point out that Kristoff and Anna married each other for love, and it's what he fails to understand.\\
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** Why Arendelle is being led by women, and suggest men are the better choice. The king of the Southern Isles might even state that the sisters deserve to StayInTheKitchen. On the other hand, the king might ask Elsa why she didn't use her powers for conquest instead of making snowmen or ice rinks.
** Magic. Like the Duke of Weselton, the Southern Islanders may be [[FantasticRacism prejudiced]] against magic-users after learning about Elsa's ice powers or the Northuldrans' connection to magic.
** Iduna's heritage as a member of the Northuldran tribe and why Agnarr married her despite her background. Given that King Runeard looked down at the Northuldra and probably wouldn't have accepted her as his daughter-in-law if he were to be alive, Hans's 12 brothers could condescendingly call the sisters [[Literature/HarryPotter "half-breeds."]]
** Kristoff's past as a Sami ice harvester who slept with a reindeer and his poverty. The king may even [[EvilCannotComprehendGood think]] he married Anna only [[GoldDigger for the riches]] like Hans attempted to and not out of true love, or that he doesn't deserve marrying into a royal family.
** Olaf's naivety.

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** Why Arendelle is being led by women, women and suggest men are the better choice. The king of the Southern Isles might even state that the sisters deserve to StayInTheKitchen. On the other hand, the king might ask Elsa why she didn't use her powers for conquest instead of making snowmen or ice rinks.
** Magic. Like the Duke of Weselton, Duke, the Southern Islanders may be [[FantasticRacism prejudiced]] against magic-users after learning about Elsa's ice powers or the Northuldrans' connection to magic.
** Iduna's heritage as a member of the Northuldran tribe and why Agnarr married her despite her background. Given that As King Runeard looked down at the Northuldra and probably wouldn't have accepted her as his daughter-in-law if he were to be alive, Hans's 12 brothers could condescendingly call the sisters [[Literature/HarryPotter "half-breeds."]]
** Kristoff's past as a Sami ice harvester who slept with a reindeer and his poverty. The king may even [[EvilCannotComprehendGood think]] he married Anna only [[GoldDigger for the riches]] like Hans attempted to and not out of true love, or that he doesn't deserve marrying into a royal family.
shouldn't have risen above his station.
** Olaf's naivety. Either the royal family or the locals could call this {{Snowlem}} a stupid simpleton.
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The heroes will be horrified at the royal family's dynamics. Despite being fraught with issues, Kristoff's troll family, and the sisters' parents were genuinely caring and loving, but the Westergaards crank the DysfunctionalFamily trope UpToEleven with misogynistic and arrogant royals, a king who abuses his family out of contempt, and 13 sons that use ''outright violence'' to earn their father's respect. One scene could have the heroes shocked at Hans's father abusing his mother.\\

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The heroes will be horrified at the royal family's dynamics. Despite being fraught with issues, Kristoff's troll family, and the sisters' parents were genuinely caring and loving, but the Westergaards crank the DysfunctionalFamily trope UpToEleven up with misogynistic and arrogant royals, a king who abuses his family out of contempt, and 13 sons that use ''outright violence'' to earn their father's respect. One scene could have the heroes shocked at Hans's father abusing his mother.\\



* Maybe a past friend who fell in love with Hans when they were young, but the two became separated as time went by. Years later, she tries to reconnect with him, but she's told about his crimes against Arendelle, and she refuses to believe it. [[UpToEleven Even after Hans personally drags himself out to confirm that it's all true, and describes it all to her in detail]], she still thinks he's making it all up, much to everyone's exasperation.

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* Maybe a past friend who fell in love with Hans when they were young, but the two became separated as time went by. Years later, she tries to reconnect with him, but she's told about his crimes against Arendelle, and she refuses to believe it. [[UpToEleven Even after Hans personally drags himself out to confirm that it's all true, and describes it all to her in detail]], detail, she still thinks he's making it all up, much to everyone's exasperation.
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As it progresses, the heroes give Hans an ArmorPiercingQuestion, asking if he ever found satisfaction trying to earn his family's respect and why would they abuse each other, but Hans will try to dodge the questions. The heroes even think his father had a FreudianExcuse, such as Hans briefly mentioning that his grandparents were unbearable. It actually strengthens Hans and his father as {{Foil}}s to each other, as while Hans has genuine past traumas, the king is a lost cause. If the heroes ask why he is so cruel and how could this justify his abusive rule, the king inverts it by stating he actually had loving parents spoiled him, but he decided he wanted a better life because of his bloated ego, and so, he betrayed his own family, cheated his way to the top so he can have the riches and power he thinks is his, and is still willing to cling on to the crown by all means necessary. Alternately, it could be revealed that Hans's mother was the true heir to throne, while the king was originally a commoner or minor noble (who also happened to be a GoldDigger), but due to social customs at the time, the previous ruler of the Isles designated Hans's father as their successor instead. It's implied the king's predecessors were genuinely nice people.\\

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As it progresses, the heroes give Hans an ArmorPiercingQuestion, asking if he ever found satisfaction trying to earn his family's respect and why would they abuse each other, but Hans will try to dodge the questions.be evasive. The heroes even think his father had a FreudianExcuse, such as Hans briefly mentioning that his grandparents were unbearable. It actually strengthens Hans and his father as {{Foil}}s to each other, as while Hans has genuine past traumas, the king is a lost cause. If the heroes ask why he is so cruel and how could this justify his abusive rule, the king inverts it by stating he actually had loving parents spoiled him, but he decided he wanted a better life because of his bloated ego, and so, he betrayed his own family, cheated his way to the top so he can have the riches and power he thinks is his, and is still willing to cling on to the crown by all means necessary. Alternately, it could be revealed that Hans's mother was the true heir to throne, while the king was originally a commoner or minor noble (who also happened to be a GoldDigger), but due to social customs at the time, the previous ruler of the Isles designated Hans's father as their successor instead. It's implied the king's predecessors were genuinely nice people.\\
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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster from a distance but is actually made from shiny stones, future stories can depict the Isles' royal palace as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage, while the capital city itself could be a literal CityOfGold. The kingdom itself could be immensely prosperous and arguably the wealthiest of all the countries on the planet, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Honeymaren, Ryder, Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when his homeland is filthy rich. Kristoff might even comment that he's never seen such an ostentatious and blatant display of wealth in his life. Despite the fact that the heroes are excited about visiting a place that's been described as extravagantly rich, the sisters have a gut feeling that something is wrong and dark about this seemingly charming and opulent kingdom.\\

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster from a distance but is actually made from shiny stones, future stories can depict the Isles' royal palace as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage, while the capital city itself could be a literal CityOfGold. The kingdom itself could be immensely prosperous and arguably the wealthiest of all the countries on the planet, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Honeymaren, Ryder, Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when his homeland is filthy rich. Kristoff might even comment that he's never seen such an ostentatious and blatant display of wealth in his life. Despite the fact that the heroes are excited about visiting a place that's been described as extravagantly rich, the sisters they have a gut feeling that something is wrong and dark about this seemingly charming and opulent kingdom.\\
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being arguably the most powerful of all kingdoms on the planet, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge cultural shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied in life even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being arguably the most powerful of all kingdoms on the planet, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that That the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge cultural shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied in life find satisfaction even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. revenge, or if he ever genuinely cared for others. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans he will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\
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Runeard's true plans introduced some surprisingly heavy themes into the sequel, such as callous colonialism, oppression of indigenous peoples and even connotations of genocide, but the King of the Southern Isles and his 12 older sons are a different story altogether. Dark themes such as the king's oppression of his subjects just ForTheEvulz, a broken royal family, misogyny, and implied mentions of slavery could be introduced, making the heroes feel that Hans pales in comparison to his father, who really is an evil man in terms of atrocities committed. It's also possible Runeard got the idea of colonialism and his hatred of magic from the King of the Southern Isles, who already has colonies in far-flung areas and oppresses indigenous peoples for more resources just as he does with his subjects, and despises anything related to magic or the supernatural, making Hans's father the overall GreaterScopeVillain of the franchise. Hans's father could also make [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Judge Claude Frollo]] ''look tame'', given the king's immorality.

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Runeard's true plans introduced some surprisingly heavy themes into the sequel, such as callous colonialism, oppression of indigenous peoples and even connotations of genocide, but the King of the Southern Isles and his 12 older sons are a different story altogether. Dark themes such as the king's oppression of his subjects just ForTheEvulz, a broken royal family, misogyny, and implied mentions of slavery could be introduced, making the heroes feel that Hans pales in comparison to his father, who really is an evil man in terms of atrocities committed. It's also possible Runeard got the idea of colonialism and his hatred of magic from the King of the Southern Isles, who already has colonies in far-flung areas and oppresses indigenous peoples for more resources just as he does with his subjects, and despises anything related to magic or the supernatural, making Hans's father the overall GreaterScopeVillain of the franchise. Hans's father could also make [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameDisney Judge Claude Frollo]] ''look tame'', given the king's immorality.
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As it progresses, the heroes give Hans an ArmorPiercingQuestion, asking if he ever found satisfaction trying to earn his family's respect and why would they abuse each other, but Hans will try to dodge the questions. The heroes even think his father had a FreudianExcuse, such as Hans briefly mentioning that his grandparents were unbearable. It actually strengthens Hans and his father as {{Foil}}s to each other, as while Hans has genuine past traumas, the king is a lost cause. If the heroes ask why he is so cruel and how could this justify his abusive rule, the king inverts it by stating he actually had loving parents spoiled him, but he decided he wanted a better life because of his bloated ego, and so, he betrayed his own family, cheated his way to the top so he can have the riches and power he thinks is his, and is still willing to cling on to the crown by all means necessary. Alternately, it could be revealed that Hans's mother was the true heir to throne, but the king only married her to elevate his status (probably because he had an impoverished background). Another possibility is that the queen was to be the ruler while the king was originally a commoner or minor noble, but due to social customs at the time, the previous ruler of the Isles designated Hans's father as their successor instead. It's implied the king's predecessors were genuinely nice people.\\

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As it progresses, the heroes give Hans an ArmorPiercingQuestion, asking if he ever found satisfaction trying to earn his family's respect and why would they abuse each other, but Hans will try to dodge the questions. The heroes even think his father had a FreudianExcuse, such as Hans briefly mentioning that his grandparents were unbearable. It actually strengthens Hans and his father as {{Foil}}s to each other, as while Hans has genuine past traumas, the king is a lost cause. If the heroes ask why he is so cruel and how could this justify his abusive rule, the king inverts it by stating he actually had loving parents spoiled him, but he decided he wanted a better life because of his bloated ego, and so, he betrayed his own family, cheated his way to the top so he can have the riches and power he thinks is his, and is still willing to cling on to the crown by all means necessary. Alternately, it could be revealed that Hans's mother was the true heir to throne, but the king only married her to elevate his status (probably because he had an impoverished background). Another possibility is that the queen was to be the ruler while the king was originally a commoner or minor noble, noble (who also happened to be a GoldDigger), but due to social customs at the time, the previous ruler of the Isles designated Hans's father as their successor instead. It's implied the king's predecessors were genuinely nice people.\\
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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster or serpent from a distance but is actually made from shiny stones, future stories can depict the Isles' royal palace as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage, while the capital city itself could be a literal CityOfGold. The kingdom itself could be immensely prosperous and arguably the wealthiest of all the countries on the planet, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Honeymaren, Ryder, Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when his homeland is filthy rich. Kristoff might even comment that he's never seen such an ostentatious and blatant display of wealth in his life. Despite the fact that the heroes are excited about visiting a place that's been described as extravagantly rich, the sisters have a gut feeling that something is wrong and dark about this seemingly charming and opulent kingdom.\\

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Instead of depicting the kingdom's royal palace as a giant ominous castle that looks like a black SeaMonster or serpent from a distance but is actually made from shiny stones, future stories can depict the Isles' royal palace as a grandiose spectacle of elaborate architecture that screams "we are so much better than you" and makes Arendelle's castle look like a cottage, while the capital city itself could be a literal CityOfGold. The kingdom itself could be immensely prosperous and arguably the wealthiest of all the countries on the planet, thanks to its trade deals and the fact that many of the king's daughters-in-law are from other kingdoms. This could leave our heroes (Honeymaren, Ryder, Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Sven and Kristoff) [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil dumbstruck]] on why Hans would want to seize control of another country when his homeland is filthy rich. Kristoff might even comment that he's never seen such an ostentatious and blatant display of wealth in his life. Despite the fact that the heroes are excited about visiting a place that's been described as extravagantly rich, the sisters have a gut feeling that something is wrong and dark about this seemingly charming and opulent kingdom.\\



The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied in life even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, arguably the most powerful of all kingdoms on the planet, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge cultural shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied in life even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask him if his people have always been like that.\\
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The two sisters will also point out to other kingdoms about the lack of cohesion and infighting between the 13 brothers, and how it contributed in the downfall of the Westergaards. Elsa and Anna point out that [[TheSonsAndTheSpears had the king of the Southern Isles taught his 13 sons to believe that strength lies in unity]] rather than the SocialDarwinist nonsense he raised them in, then the Westergaards themselves would have been a force to be reckoned with.

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The two sisters will After digging through the Westergaard clan's backstory from historians, journals, and eyewitness accounts, Elsa and Anna also point out to other kingdoms about the lack of cohesion and infighting between the 13 brothers, and how it contributed in the downfall of the Westergaards.Hans's family. Elsa and Anna point out that [[TheSonsAndTheSpears had the king of the Southern Isles taught his 13 sons to believe that strength lies in unity]] rather than the SocialDarwinist nonsense he raised them in, then the Westergaards themselves would have been a force to be reckoned with.
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied in life even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask Hans if his people have always been like that.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied in life even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask Hans him if his people have always been like that.\\
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Perhaps people that they saw earlier mysteriously vanish in the middle of the night, while the gang later finds out that they're banned from entering restricted areas of the kingdom or castle, which houses skeletons of dead prisoners. Alternately, the heroes could be disgusted at a scene where Hans's brothers subject and torment prisoners to Gulag-type conditions, or witness Hans being ill-treated like a slave by his father. Since the sisters directly executed the decision to send Hans back to his family, they will be horrified at the macabre scene and unsure of what to do next after realizing how evil his father is than Runeard.\\

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Perhaps people that they saw earlier mysteriously vanish in the middle of the night, while the gang later finds out that they're banned from entering restricted areas of the kingdom or castle, which houses skeletons of dead prisoners. Alternately, the heroes could be disgusted at a scene where Hans's brothers subject and torment prisoners to Gulag-type conditions, or witness Hans being ill-treated like a slave by his father. Since the sisters directly executed the decision to send Hans back to his family, they will be horrified at the macabre scene and unsure of what to do next after realizing how evil the violent and corrupt man his father is than Runeard.really is.\\
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied in life even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied in life even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering Considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.powers, the heroes are shocked that Hans's family held prejudiced views and ask Hans if his people have always been like that.\\



After Hans is deported, Anna, Elsa and Kristoff wonder if his family is just as bad as he was, and correctly deduce that he's the "bad seed" of the family while they are actually kind and loving, but Hans spun it around to think they're abusive dictators and [[NeverMyFault that he's the victim of his story]]. Having realized who he was, the sisters see through Hans's FreudianExcuse and realize he's just nothing but a self-serving man who became envious of his brothers, all of whom have shown more potential than him. In the end, Hans is ''ironically'' [[LonersAreFreaks the one who shut his family out]] despite their attempts to bond and reconcile with him, becoming the "frozen-hearted" villain that he truly is. From the heroes' perspective, it just shows how selfish and egotistical Hans has become. Family or friends mean nothing to Hans, as he's willing to alienate and abandon anyone for the sake of more power and [[IWorkAlone would prefer]] [[ItsAllAboutMe being alone]], but has no idea how to reconnect with them when asked by the heroes. [[SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers At the end]], he remains unhappy because he ''[[LonersWillStayAlone chose]]'' to do so out of arrogance and a deep-seated mistrust, and has forgotten how to relate to others, having irreparably burned bridges with his own family. He instead views everyone around him as tools whom he could discard on a whim. In the wealth that ''truly'' matters, Hans is the poorest man in town.

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After Hans is deported, Anna, Elsa and Kristoff wonder if his family is just as bad as he was, and correctly deduce that he's the "bad seed" of the family while they are actually kind and loving, but Hans spun it around to think they're abusive dictators and [[NeverMyFault that he's the victim of his story]]. Having realized who he was, the sisters see through Hans's FreudianExcuse and realize he's just nothing but a self-serving man who became envious of his brothers, all of whom have shown more potential than him. In the end, Hans is ''ironically'' [[LonersAreFreaks the one who shut his family out]] despite their attempts to bond and reconcile with him, becoming the "frozen-hearted" villain that he truly is. From the heroes' perspective, it just shows how selfish and egotistical Hans has become. Family or friends mean nothing to Hans, as he's who's willing to alienate and abandon anyone for the sake of more power and [[IWorkAlone would prefer]] [[ItsAllAboutMe being alone]], but has no idea how to reconnect with them when asked by the heroes. [[SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers At the end]], he remains unhappy because he ''[[LonersWillStayAlone chose]]'' to do so out of arrogance and a deep-seated mistrust, and has forgotten forgetting how to relate to others, having others when he's irreparably burned bridges with his own family. He instead views everyone around him as tools whom he could discard on a whim. In the kind of wealth that ''truly'' matters, Hans is the poorest man in town.



* Perhaps a variation could involve subverting ThickerThanWater as well. Hans has a younger sister whom he didn't mention about, knowing she's far behind to ascend his kingdom's throne. They were inseparable in childhood, but became distant as they grew up. She doesn't believe in his crimes against Arendelle, thinking he's still making it up even when their 12 older brothers tell her about it. Hans's sister still believes in their bond, but being the deceptive man that he is, he tricks her into helping him get his revenge against Elsa and Anna. At the climax, when he reveals he manipulated her and taunts her for being a naïve little girl who's easily dupable, his sister punches him for breaking her heart, having realized he's BeyondRedemption. Witnessing Hans's betrayal a second time, it becomes a gut-wrenching scene for the heroes, who are left appalled to see why anyone would play such a despicable prank against their own family. When they mention Hans's crimes to his sister, the heroes are glad to see that she's genuinely nice compared to the irredeemable monster that her brother chose to become. Hans ends up becoming her EvilCounterpart, having chosen to sideline familial relationships for personal gain.

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* Perhaps a variation could involve subverting ThickerThanWater as well. Hans has a younger sister whom he didn't mention about, knowing she's far behind to ascend his kingdom's throne. They were inseparable in childhood, but became distant as they grew up. She doesn't believe in his crimes against Arendelle, thinking he's still making it up even when their 12 older brothers tell her about it. Hans's sister still believes in their bond, but being the deceptive man that he is, he tricks her into helping him get his revenge against Elsa and Anna. At the climax, when he reveals he manipulated her and taunts her for being a naïve little girl who's easily dupable, his sister punches him for breaking her heart, having realized he's BeyondRedemption. Witnessing Hans's betrayal a second time, it becomes a gut-wrenching scene for the heroes, who are left appalled to see why anyone would play such a despicable prank against their own family. When they mention Hans's crimes to his sister, the heroes are glad to see that she's genuinely nice compared to the irredeemable monster that her brother chose to become. Hans ends up becoming her EvilCounterpart, having chosen to sideline familial relationships his own family for personal gain.
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever find satisfaction in life even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever find satisfaction be satisfied in life even if he won or spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied being king even if he won or sought revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied being king find satisfaction in life even if he won or sought spilled the blood of his own family in revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied being king even if he won or sought reveng. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied being king even if he won or sought reveng.revenge. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also ask if he would ever be satisfied being king even if he won or sought reveng. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\
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Conversely, Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face out of envy or planning something against him, given the negative experiences he's witnessed with his brothers. Hans is also baffled on how the heroes found happiness despite their modest appearance while he remains miserable and dismisses love as a sign of weakness, but unaware that his self-hatred all prevent him from knowing what makes them happy. Being selfish makes it very impossible for Hans to embrace the necessary demands of friendship and love, as he finds them to be weaknesses that hold people back. [[TheRichWantToBeRicher He seeks fame and power]] by all means possible and will use underhanded means to obtain that wealth, but his greed is what caused his downfall. His belief in self-preservation and individualism above all things stop him from making genuine friendships, and thus, Hans would have truly been LonelyAtTheTop had he conquered Arendelle. The fact that he's willing to forsake any and all relationships for more power highlight his inability to understand love. Hans might also assume Kristoff has ulterior motives for marrying Anna [[NotSoDifferent like he did]] and [[WhatsHeGotThatIAintGot asks]] her WhatDoesSheSeeInHim despite his gruff appearance. The heroes point out that Kristoff and Anna married each other for love, and it's what he fails to understand.\\

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Conversely, Hans being Hans, and having been taught that compassion is a weakness, he won't be able to understand what they meant, and [[InsaneTrollLogic may even think]] they are rubbing his failures in his face out of envy or planning something against him, given the negative experiences he's witnessed with his brothers. Hans is also baffled on how the heroes found happiness despite their modest appearance while he remains miserable and dismisses love as a sign of weakness, but unaware that his self-hatred all prevent him from knowing what makes them happy. Being selfish makes it very impossible for Hans to embrace the necessary demands of friendship and love, as he finds them to be weaknesses that hold people back. [[TheRichWantToBeRicher He seeks fame and power]] by all means possible and will use underhanded means to obtain that wealth, but his greed is what caused his downfall. His belief in self-preservation and individualism above all things stop him from making genuine friendships, and thus, Hans would have truly been LonelyAtTheTop had he conquered Arendelle. The fact that he's willing to forsake any and all relationships for more power highlight his inability to understand love. Hans might also assume Kristoff has ulterior motives for marrying Anna [[NotSoDifferent [[EvilCannotComprehendGood like he did]] and [[WhatsHeGotThatIAintGot asks]] her WhatDoesSheSeeInHim despite his gruff appearance. The heroes point out that Kristoff and Anna married each other for love, and it's what he fails to understand.\\
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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them.\\

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The heroes might lampshade on why they're having a hard time understanding the general cynicism and duality surrounding the Southern Isles if they decide to go there on a new adventure. Commenting on all of the places they've visited or heard of, the heroes are left outraged on how and why such a [[CrapsaccharineWorld society]], despite being a superpower, [[YourNormalIsOurTaboo could tolerate and even practice great injustices]]. The fact that the locals have chosen to accept the hypocrisy of their culture comes at a huge shock to the Arendellers. If they run into Hans, the heroes might even [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse tell]] him that while he grew up in an abusive household, he could have chosen a different path instead of letting his family issues cloud his mind. They also state that as long as he remains stuck in the cesspool of self-loathing, Hans will never find or understand what made them truly happy or even seek redemption. Being an orphan who was adopted by trolls, Kristoff would not only be bewildered at such a large family, but one that is truly broken from the inside given the great degree of mistrust between them. That Hans's family holds bigoted and elitist views comes at a great confusion for the heroes, considering the other kingdoms have been appreciative of Elsa's ice powers.\\

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