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* DealWithTheDevil: [[spoiler: Hazama is revealed to have made one with Zurvan. Though he's nothing more than Zurvan's UnwittingPawn.]]
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The game has a cell phone prequel called ''Shin Megami Tensei: if... Hazama's Chapter'', which details Hazama's past and [[spoiler:his rise as the Emperor until it eventually splits into its own take on the ''if...'''s story.]]
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The game has a cell phone prequel called ''Shin Megami Tensei: if... Hazama's Chapter'', which details Hazama's past and [[spoiler:his rise as the Emperor until it eventually splits into its own take on the ''if...'''s story.]]
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-->-- ''Shin Megami Tensei If...'' intro.
''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing, [[http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif currently at eighty percent completion]]. [[IncrediblyLamePun If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing, [[http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif currently at eighty percent completion]]. [[IncrediblyLamePun If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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-->-- ''Shin Megami Tensei If...if...'' intro.
''Shin Megami Tensei:If...if...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing, [[http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif currently at eighty percent completion]]. [[IncrediblyLamePun If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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If this sounds [[VideoGame/{{Persona}} just a bit familiar]], it should; many of the concepts introduced in ''If'' would eventually be expanded upon in ''Persona 1'', and the formerly anonymous main character of ''If'' even became a character in the early Persona games, putting Persona in the same continuity as ''If'' and the ''Devil Summoner'' games (which detail what'd happen if people knew about demons ''before'' a certain event in SMT 1, thanks to the events of ''If''). In other words, what started as one GaidenGame ended up dovetailing into a huge AlternateContinuity that has ''eclipsed'' the original Shin Megami Tensei games in popularity.
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If this sounds [[VideoGame/{{Persona}} just a bit familiar]], it should; many of the concepts introduced in ''If'' ''if...'' would eventually be expanded upon in ''Persona 1'', and the formerly anonymous main character of ''If'' even became a character in the early Persona games, putting Persona in the same continuity as ''If'' ''if...'' and the ''Devil Summoner'' games (which detail what'd happen if people knew about demons ''before'' a certain event in SMT 1, thanks to the events of ''If'').''if...''). In other words, what started as one GaidenGame ended up dovetailing into a huge AlternateContinuity that has ''eclipsed'' the original Shin Megami Tensei games in popularity.
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The game has a cell phone prequel called ''Shin Megami Tensei: If... if... Hazama's Chapter'', which details Hazama Hazama's past and [[spoiler:his rise as the Emperor until it eventually splits into its own take on the ''if...'''s story.]]
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* BigBad: The Demon God Emperor. [[spoiler: Whose true identity is the Zoroastrian Deity Zurvan.]]
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* CanonName[=/=]DivergentCharacterEvolution: In ''If'', ''if...'', you are given the option of naming your character, selecting their gender, and more or less defining their personality through gameplay. The ''Persona'' series, however, defines the Protagonist as a fairly upbeat girl named Tamaki Uchida. She retains the name and gender in ''Hazama's Chapter''.
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* [[LawyerFriendlyCameo Lawyer (Un?)Friendly Logo Cameo]]: Potentially a reason the game has never gotten a Western release; the lettering of the "if" in the game logo is lifted ''directly'' from the [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/If_movieposter.jpg movie of the same name]], and parts of the game concept also seem to borrow heavily from the movie as well (such as the school setting itself and [[spoiler: a major character rebelling and bringing down punishment on the school after [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer constant abuse]] - Malcolm [=McDowell's=] character in ''if....'', and Hazama in ''SMT If'']]).
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* [[LawyerFriendlyCameo Lawyer (Un?)Friendly Logo Cameo]]: Potentially a reason the game has never gotten a Western release; the lettering of the "if" in the game logo is lifted ''directly'' from the [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/If_movieposter.jpg movie of the same name]], and parts of the game concept also seem to borrow heavily from the movie as well (such as the school setting itself and [[spoiler: a major character rebelling and bringing down punishment on the school after [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer constant abuse]] - Malcolm [=McDowell's=] character in ''if....'', and Hazama in ''SMT If'']]).if...'']]).
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** It gets another one with ''Hazama's Chapter''. [[spoiler: Where Hazama is playable alongside the other human characters.]]
* BigBad: The Demon God Emperor. [[spoiler: Whose true identity is the Zoroastrian Deity Zurvan.]]
* BigBad: The Demon God Emperor. [[spoiler: Whose true identity is the Zoroastrian Deity Zurvan.]]
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''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing. [[IncrediblyLamePun If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing.ongoing, [[http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif currently at eighty percent completion]]. [[IncrediblyLamePun If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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The game begins with your main character (who you can choose the name and gender of, although canonically the Protagonist is a girl named Tamaki) as an OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent at Karukozaka High School who is just about to go home for the day... and then, suddenly, things go very ''[[ItGotWorse wrong]]''. Your school doesn't seem to be on Earth anymore, demons roam the hallways, and a student named Hazama has gone missing... except he seems to be appearing to you as a kind of astral projection, taunting you. It'll be up to you and a partner of your choosing to get to the bottom of what is going on - and what Hazama may have planned for the school and the world.
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The game begins with your main character (who you can choose the name and gender of, although canonically the Protagonist is a girl named Tamaki) as an OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent at Karukozaka High School who is just about to go home for the day... and then, suddenly, things go very ''[[ItGotWorse wrong]]''.''very wrong''. Your school doesn't seem to be on Earth anymore, demons roam the hallways, and a student named Hazama has gone missing... except he seems to be appearing to you as a kind of astral projection, taunting you. It'll be up to you and a partner of your choosing to get to the bottom of what is going on - and what Hazama may have planned for the school and the world.
* FromBadToWorse: Whoever is in control of the Demon World seems to be doing this deliberately to the poor students of Karukozaka High. [[spoiler:Turns out Hazama is attempting to punish them for what he perceives as each of their sins against both him and society.]]
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* ItGotWorse: Whoever is in control of the Demon World seems to be doing this ''deliberately'' to the poor students of Karukozaka High. [[spoiler:Turns out Hazama is attempting to punish them for what he perceives as each of their sins against both him and society.]]
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* OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent: Everyone begins as this. Then [[ItGotWorse stuff happens]].
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* EverythingsDeaderwithZombies: Undead students and school faculty appear in the game as enemies. You may also encounter undead dogs outside the school gym.
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* EverythingsDeaderwithZombies: EverythingsDeaderWithZombies: Undead students and school faculty appear in the game as enemies. You may also encounter undead dogs outside the school gym.
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A Worldwide Punomenon cleanup
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''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing. [[AWorldwidePunomenon If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing. [[AWorldwidePunomenon [[IncrediblyLamePun If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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* WombLevel: Guttony has this as the real boss in the world is a demon within the stomach of the headmaster who now looks like a pig.
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* WombLevel: Guttony has this as the real boss in the world is a demon within the stomach of the headmaster who is now looks like Orcus, who is a giant pig.
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* EverythingsDeaderwithZombies: Undead students and school faculty appear in the game as enemies. You may also encounter undead dogs outside the school gym.
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** The worlds, in order: [[spoiler:Pride, Gluttony, Sloth, Envy OR Wrath (depending on your partner) and Greed.]]
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** The worlds, in order: [[spoiler:Pride, Gluttony, Sloth, Envy OR Wrath (depending on your partner) and Greed.]] The absent sin, [[spoiler:Lust]], could potentially be represented by [[spoiler:Hazama himself, as his feelings towards both Akiko and Miss Kayama being rejected helped drive him into unleashing the Demon World.]]
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* CanonName / DivergentCharacterEvolution: In ''If'', you are given the option of naming your character, selecting their gender, and more or less defining their personality through gameplay. The ''Persona'' series, however, defines the Protagonist as a fairly upbeat girl named Tamaki Uchida.
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* CanonName / DivergentCharacterEvolution: CanonName[=/=]DivergentCharacterEvolution: In ''If'', you are given the option of naming your character, selecting their gender, and more or less defining their personality through gameplay. The ''Persona'' series, however, defines the Protagonist as a fairly upbeat girl named Tamaki Uchida.
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* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist / ContinuingIsPainful: Dying simply gets you a new Guardian and bounces you back to the start of the current dungeon, which can be good or bad depending on how high your Guardian gauge was and how far in you were.
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* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist / ContinuingIsPainful: DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist[=/=]ContinuingIsPainful: Dying simply gets you a new Guardian and bounces you back to the start of the current dungeon, which can be good or bad depending on how high your Guardian gauge was and how far in you were.
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* FreudianExcuse: [[spoiler:Hazama in Reiko's path.]]
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* FortuneTeller: NOVA, a computerized one, gives the PlayerPersonalityQuiz.
* FreudianExcuse:[[spoiler:Hazama [[spoiler:Hazama's is detailed in Reiko's path.]]
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** Of course, this isn't just played for laughs: [[spoiler: in Reiko's ending it's revealed that Hazama fell desperately in love with her, but she rejected him as she felt a relationship with him would be wildly inappropriate; this is suggested to be the snapping point at which he decided to open the portal to the Demon World. It's also the reason that she's around to heal you even when bad things happen to all the other students and faculty, though; hurt and emotionally crippled as he is, Hazama can't bring himself to harm Kayama in any way.]]
* ItGotWorse: Whoever is in control of the Demon World seems to be doing this ''deliberately'' to the poor students of Karukozaka High. [[spoiler: Turns out Hazama is attempting to punish them for what he perceives as each of their sins against both him and society.]]
* ItGotWorse: Whoever is in control of the Demon World seems to be doing this ''deliberately'' to the poor students of Karukozaka High. [[spoiler: Turns out Hazama is attempting to punish them for what he perceives as each of their sins against both him and society.]]
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** Of course, this isn't just played for laughs: [[spoiler: in [[spoiler:in Reiko's ending it's revealed that Hazama fell desperately in love with her, but she rejected him as she felt a relationship with him would be wildly inappropriate; this is suggested to be the snapping point at which he decided to open the portal to the Demon World. It's also the reason that she's around to heal you even when bad things happen to all the other students and faculty, though; hurt and emotionally crippled as he is, Hazama can't bring himself to harm Kayama in any way.]]
* ItGotWorse: Whoever is in control of the Demon World seems to be doing this ''deliberately'' to the poor students of Karukozaka High.[[spoiler: Turns [[spoiler:Turns out Hazama is attempting to punish them for what he perceives as each of their sins against both him and society.]]
* ItGotWorse: Whoever is in control of the Demon World seems to be doing this ''deliberately'' to the poor students of Karukozaka High.
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* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind: [[spoiler: The Final dungeon in Reiko's Path. There is also SoundtrackDissonance as the Law theme from ShinMegamiTensei 1 and 2 play while you trod through Hazama's mind.]]
* KickTheDog: [[spoiler: Akiko rejected Hazama's love letter and tore it up, badmouthing him to her friends.]]
* KickTheDog: [[spoiler: Akiko rejected Hazama's love letter and tore it up, badmouthing him to her friends.]]
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* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Final dungeon in Reiko's Path. There is also SoundtrackDissonance as the Law theme from ShinMegamiTensei 1 and 2 play while you trod through Hazama's mind.]]
* KickTheDog:[[spoiler: Akiko [[spoiler:Akiko rejected Hazama's love letter and tore it up, badmouthing him to her friends.]]
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: In the World of Wrath, [[spoiler: after finding Ryuuichi and Akiko were turned to stone, the villain claims that smashing the stone ''might'' free them. If you don't take the bait, your partner [[ButThouMust does it instead]] -- killing the pair instead of freeing them. Cue {{Evil Laugh}}ter from Hazama and MyGodWhatHaveIDone from your partner.]]
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: In the World of Wrath, [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after finding Ryuuichi and Akiko were turned to stone, the villain claims that smashing the stone ''might'' free them. If you don't take the bait, your partner [[ButThouMust does it instead]] -- killing the pair instead of freeing them. Cue {{Evil Laugh}}ter from Hazama and MyGodWhatHaveIDone from your partner.]]
* PlayerPersonalityQuiz: At the start of the game, a computer FortuneTeller named Nova asks you questions what sort of sports and subjects you like, what sort of school club you belong to, whether or not you like video games, and if you have/use a cellphone. Once you finish, she summarizes your strengths and weaknesses, giving you a good idea what your starting stats will look like.
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** The worlds, in order: [[spoiler: Pride, Gluttony, Sloth, Envy OR Wrath (depending on your partner) and Greed.]]
* ShaggyDogStory: [[spoiler: Practically everything that happens in Sloth turns out to be pointless, beyond giving you access to the next area.]]
* ShaggyDogStory: [[spoiler: Practically everything that happens in Sloth turns out to be pointless, beyond giving you access to the next area.]]
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** The worlds, in order: [[spoiler: Pride, [[spoiler:Pride, Gluttony, Sloth, Envy OR Wrath (depending on your partner) and Greed.]]
* ShaggyDogStory:[[spoiler: Practically [[spoiler:Practically everything that happens in Sloth turns out to be pointless, beyond giving you access to the next area.]]
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* TakenForGranite: [[spoiler: Ryuuichi and Akiko. If you take the 'Wrath' path, It Gets Worse.]]
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* TakenForGranite: [[spoiler: Ryuuichi [[spoiler:Ryuuichi and Akiko. If you take the 'Wrath' path, It Gets Worse.]]
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler: Both Otsuka and Hazama suffer from this in the end, Otsuka welding ever wilder cybernetics to his flesh while Hazama can't believe that he isn't omnipotent in the Demon World. If you have Reiko with you, you get to see all the steps of his breakdown that ''led'' to this whole mess.]]
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler: Both [[spoiler:Both Otsuka and Hazama suffer from this in the end, Otsuka welding ever wilder cybernetics to his flesh while Hazama can't believe that he isn't omnipotent in the Demon World. If you have Reiko with you, you get to see all the steps of his breakdown that ''led'' to this whole mess.]]
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* WhereItAllBegan: If you take the three SuperNintendo-based SMT titles (SMT 1, SMT 2, and ''If'') as a kind of "trilogy" this applies after a fashion. SMT 1 begins in the dreams of the Protagonist of that game; [[spoiler: the VeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon of ''If'' is the Mindscape of Hazama, using the same "dream" graphical effect from SMT 1]].
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* WhereItAllBegan: If you take the three SuperNintendo-based SMT titles (SMT 1, SMT 2, and ''If'') as a kind of "trilogy" this applies after a fashion. SMT 1 begins in the dreams of the Protagonist of that game; [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the VeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon of ''If'' is the Mindscape of Hazama, using the same "dream" graphical effect from SMT 1]].
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* [[YankTheDogsChain Yank The Dog's Chain]]: Cruelly used in [[spoiler: Sloth, when Hazama declares [[ILied he lied]] about setting free whoever found the ring hidden there.]]
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* [[YankTheDogsChain Yank The Dog's Chain]]: Cruelly used in [[spoiler: Sloth, [[spoiler:Sloth, when Hazama declares [[ILied he lied]] about setting free whoever found the ring hidden there.]]
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''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, and there are apparently no active fan-translation groups actively working on the game. [[AWorldwidePunomenon If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, and there are apparently no active fan-translation groups actively working on the game.but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing. [[AWorldwidePunomenon If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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* CanonName / DivergentCharacterEvolution: In ''If'', you are given the option of naming your character, selecting their gender, and more or less defining their personality through gameplay. The Persona ''Persona'' series, however, defines the Protagonist as a fairly upbeat girl named Tamaki Uchida.
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* SamusIsAGirl: After a fashion. Not only was ''If'' the first game in the SMT franchise to offer the option of a female protagonist, the Persona series retroactively made Tamaki the first ''canon'' female protagonist of an SMT game.
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* SamusIsAGirl: After a fashion. Not only was ''If'' the first game in the SMT franchise to offer the option of a female protagonist, the Persona ''Persona'' series retroactively made Tamaki the first ''canon'' female protagonist of an SMT game.
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** Aeon Genesis has announced that their fan translation is "roughly halfway done", however. We may see this in English after all!
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* LouisCypher: [[spoiler:Conspicuous only in his ''total absence''. He never shows up to talk, you don't fight him, he isn't TheChessmaster, you can't even fuse him as a bonus demon or anything; he simply isn't in the game ''at all'', making ''If'' one of the tiny handful of SMT games where he doesn't make some kind of appearance. This has caused ''all kinds'' of [[EpilepticTrees guessing]] about certain aspects of the game.]]
** [[spoiler: But he IS avaiable through fusion. At level 99, of course.]]
** [[spoiler: But he IS avaiable through fusion. At level 99, of course.]]
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* LouisCypher: [[spoiler:Conspicuous only in his ''total absence''. near total absence. He never shows up to talk, you don't fight him, he isn't TheChessmaster, and you can't can only even fuse him as a bonus demon or anything; he simply isn't in the game ''at all'', at level 99; making ''If'' one of the tiny handful of SMT games where he doesn't make some have any kind of appearance. This has caused ''all kinds'' of story impact. [[EpilepticTrees guessing]] Guesses]] about certain aspects this aspect of the game.]]
** [[spoiler: But he IS avaiable through fusion. At level 99, of course.game abound.]]
** [[spoiler: But he IS avaiable through fusion. At level 99, of course.
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* WombLevel: Guttony has this as the real boss in the world is a demon within the stomach of a pig like being.
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* WombLevel: Guttony has this as the real boss in the world is a demon within the stomach of a pig the headmaster who now looks like being.a pig.
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* WombLevel: Guttony has this as the real boss in the world is a demon within the stomach of a pig like being.
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''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_(film) if....]], where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, and there are apparently no active fan-translation groups actively working on the game. [[AWorldwidePunomenon If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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''Shin Megami Tensei: If...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ShinMegamiTensei franchise (the first being the little-remembered ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_(film) if....]], ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, and there are apparently no active fan-translation groups actively working on the game. [[AWorldwidePunomenon If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!
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[[caption-width:224:Right from the get-go, you know this'll be something different.]]
[[caption-width:224:Right from the get-go, you know this'll be something different.]]
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[[caption-width-right:224:Right from the get-go, you know this'll be something different.
->''...A peaceful everyday life...''\\
''...A boring day after boring day''\\
''...Our days of youth slowly passes by...''
->''What IF...''\\
''that life was shattered to pieces?''
->''What IF...''\\
''the school thrown into another world?''
->''This is...''\\
''...a story of children who were stranded in the Demon World...''
-->-- ''Shin Megami Tensei If...'' intro.
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler: Both Otsuka and Hazama suffer from this, in the end, Otsuka welding ever wilder cybernetics to his flesh while Hazama can't believe that he isn't omnipotent in the Demon World. If you have Reiko with you, you get to see all the steps of his breakdown that ''led'' to this whole mess.]]
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler: Both Otsuka and Hazama suffer from this, this in the end, Otsuka welding ever wilder cybernetics to his flesh while Hazama can't believe that he isn't omnipotent in the Demon World. If you have Reiko with you, you get to see all the steps of his breakdown that ''led'' to this whole mess.]]
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* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity: Played with in the Greed world, where there are about dozen or so chests outside the boss room, [[spoiler:opening none of them gets you a fight with an underleveled fox, taking all of them will force you to fight an overleveled god-like [[MultipleTailedBeast nine-tailed]] {{Kitsune}}, with various forms in-between.]]
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* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity: Played with in the Greed world, where there are about dozen or so chests outside the boss room, room: [[spoiler:opening none of them gets you a fight with an underleveled fox, taking all of them will force you to fight an overleveled god-like [[MultipleTailedBeast nine-tailed]] {{Kitsune}}, with various forms in-between.]]
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* SevenDeadlySins: Sort of. The dungeons are based on a major sin ([[spoiler: these being the punishments Hazama wishes to deal out to those who have "wronged" him]]), but there are only six sins represented. [[spoiler:One could make an argument for the "empty school" being symbolic of Pride and Hazama's mind being Wrath given how pissed he is at everything, but this isn't stated outright.]]
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* SevenDeadlySins: Sort of. The dungeons are based on a major sin ([[spoiler: these ([[spoiler:these being the punishments Hazama wishes to deal out to those who have "wronged" him]]), but there are only six sins represented. [[spoiler:One could make an argument for the "empty school" being symbolic of Pride and Hazama's mind being Wrath given how pissed he is at everything, but this isn't stated outright.]]
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* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind:[[spoiler: The Final dungeon in Reiko's Path. There is also SoundtrackDissonance as the Law theme from ShinMegamiTensei 1 and 2 play while you trod through Hazama's mind.]]
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* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind:[[spoiler: JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind: [[spoiler: The Final dungeon in Reiko's Path. There is also SoundtrackDissonance as the Law theme from ShinMegamiTensei 1 and 2 play while you trod through Hazama's mind.]]
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* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind: [[spoiler: The Final dungeon in Reiko's Path, There is also SoundtrackDissonance as the Law theme from ShinMegamiTensei 1 and 2 play while you trod through Hazama's mind.]]
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* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind: [[spoiler: JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind:[[spoiler: The Final dungeon in Reiko's Path, Path. There is also SoundtrackDissonance as the Law theme from ShinMegamiTensei 1 and 2 play while you trod through Hazama's mind.]]
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Mechanically, the game is built on the engine of ''ShinMegamiTenseiII'', and even recycles a large number of art and musical assets from that title. Dungeons are navigated in a first-person view, demons are negotiated with, and fused in the Cathedral of Shadows. Perhaps the biggest change mechanically is the introduction of the idea of "guardian spirits"; souls of demons that will save you from death and upon entering your body, strengthen it and even give you and your compatriots magical powers.
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Mechanically, the game is built on the engine of ''ShinMegamiTenseiII'', and even recycles a large number of art and musical assets from that title. Dungeons are navigated in a first-person view, view; demons are negotiated with, and fused in the Cathedral of Shadows. Perhaps the biggest change mechanically is the introduction of the idea of "guardian spirits"; spirits": souls of demons that will save you from death and upon entering your body, strengthen it and even give you and your compatriots magical powers.
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* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity: Played with in the Greed world, where there are about dozen or so chests outside the boss room, [[spoiler:opening none of them gets you a fight with an underleveled fox, taking all of them will force you to fight an overleveled god-like [[MultipleTailedBeast nine-tailed]] ((Kitsune)), with various forms in-between.]]
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* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity: Played with in the Greed world, where there are about dozen or so chests outside the boss room, [[spoiler:opening none of them gets you a fight with an underleveled fox, taking all of them will force you to fight an overleveled god-like [[MultipleTailedBeast nine-tailed]] ((Kitsune)), {{Kitsune}}, with various forms in-between.]]
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* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity: Played with in the Greed world, where there are about dozen or so chests outside the boss room, [[spoiler:opening none of them gets you a fight with an underleveled fox, taking all of them will force you to fight an overleveled god-like [[MultipleTailedBeast nine-tailed]] ((Kitsune)), with various forms in-between.]]
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* AGodAmI - Hazama.
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* AGodAmI - AGodAmI: Hazama.
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* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist / ContinuingIsPainful - Dying simply gets you a new Guardian and bounces you back to the start of the current dungeon, which can be good or bad depending on how high your Guardian gauge was and how far in you were.
* DiscOneNuke - Surprisingly, Reiko's starting Guardian has Agilao of all things. Despite the high MP cost, it's extremely useful and will save your ass many times.
* DiscOneNuke - Surprisingly, Reiko's starting Guardian has Agilao of all things. Despite the high MP cost, it's extremely useful and will save your ass many times.
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* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist / ContinuingIsPainful - ContinuingIsPainful: Dying simply gets you a new Guardian and bounces you back to the start of the current dungeon, which can be good or bad depending on how high your Guardian gauge was and how far in you were.
*DiscOneNuke - DiscOneNuke: Surprisingly, Reiko's starting Guardian has Agilao of all things. Despite the high MP cost, it's extremely useful and will save your ass many times.
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* FreudianExcuse - [[spoiler:Hazama in Reiko's path.]]
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* FreudianExcuse - FreudianExcuse: [[spoiler:Hazama in Reiko's path.]]
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* {{Jerkass}} - Charlie. He's perfectly happy to screw the whole school over if it means getting home. [[spoiler:Which is ''exactly'' what the two of you do in his ending.]]
* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind [[spoiler: The Final dungeon in Reiko's Path, There is also SoundtrackDissonance as the Law theme from ShinMegamiTensei 1 and 2 play while you trod through Hazama's mind.]]
* JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind [[spoiler: The Final dungeon in Reiko's Path, There is also SoundtrackDissonance as the Law theme from ShinMegamiTensei 1 and 2 play while you trod through Hazama's mind.]]
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* {{Jerkass}} - {{Jerkass}}: Charlie. He's perfectly happy to screw the whole school over if it means getting home. [[spoiler:Which is ''exactly'' what the two of you do in his ending.]]
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* LouisCypher - [[spoiler:Conspicuous only in his ''total absence''. He never shows up to talk, you don't fight him, he isn't TheChessmaster, you can't even fuse him as a bonus demon or anything; he simply isn't in the game ''at all'', making ''If'' one of the tiny handful of SMT games where he doesn't make some kind of appearance. This has caused ''all kinds'' of [[EpilepticTrees guessing]] about certain aspects of the game.]]
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* LouisCypher - LouisCypher: [[spoiler:Conspicuous only in his ''total absence''. He never shows up to talk, you don't fight him, he isn't TheChessmaster, you can't even fuse him as a bonus demon or anything; he simply isn't in the game ''at all'', making ''If'' one of the tiny handful of SMT games where he doesn't make some kind of appearance. This has caused ''all kinds'' of [[EpilepticTrees guessing]] about certain aspects of the game.]]
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* {{Meganekko}} - Reiko.
* MultipleEndings - Each partner has their own route and ending.
* MultipleEndings - Each partner has their own route and ending.
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* {{Meganekko}} - {{Meganekko}}: Reiko.
*MultipleEndings - MultipleEndings: Each partner has their own route and ending.
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* RecurringBoss - [[spoiler:Professor Otsuki, who keeps rebuilding his body in order to defeat you.]]
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* RecurringBoss - RecurringBoss: [[spoiler:Professor Otsuki, who keeps rebuilding his body in order to defeat you.]]
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* SecretCharacter - [[spoiler:Akira]], whose path becomes available after beating the game.
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* SecretCharacter - SecretCharacter: [[spoiler:Akira]], whose path becomes available after beating the game.
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* TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon - [[spoiler:The last dungeon in Reiko's path is Hazama's ''mind''.]]
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* TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon - TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon: [[spoiler:The last dungeon in Reiko's path is Hazama's ''mind''.]]
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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds - [[spoiler:Hazama, as you discover in the last dungeon of Reiko's path.]]
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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds - WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: [[spoiler:Hazama, as you discover in the last dungeon of Reiko's path.]]