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* AwesomeDearBoy: Jessica Chastain had done a series of intense roles back to back, and took the role of Sara to do something lighter; also drawn to the idea of playing an ActionGirl.



* FakeBrit: South African Charlize Theron puts on a British accent for Ravenna.
* FakeScot: Aussie Chris Hemsworth and American Jessica Chastain adopt Scottish accents.

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* FakeBrit: South African Charlize Theron puts on a British accent for Ravenna.
Ravenna. Northern Irish Colin Morgan does likewise for his small role as Freya's lover.
* FakeScot: Aussie Chris Hemsworth and American Jessica Chastain adopt Scottish accents. Ditto for Conrad Khan (British) as the young Eric.



* MoneyDearBoy:
** A disagreement between Creator/CharlizeTheron and producers of this film was made public as of the Sony Email Hacks. When she discovered Creator/ChrisHemsworth was being paid $10 million for his role, she demanded the same amount to appear in the film (as she is a proven Box Office draw).
** Subverted with Creator/JessicaChastain, [[ExecutiveMeddling as she was only in this due to a contractual obligation]] from her ''Film/CrimsonPeak'' contract from Universal, the distributor of this film.

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* MoneyDearBoy:
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MoneyDearBoy: A disagreement between Creator/CharlizeTheron and producers of this film was made public as of the Sony Email Hacks. When she discovered Creator/ChrisHemsworth was being paid $10 million for his role, she demanded the same amount to appear in the film (as she is a proven Box Office draw).
** Subverted with Creator/JessicaChastain, [[ExecutiveMeddling as she was only in this due to a contractual obligation]] from her ''Film/CrimsonPeak'' contract from Universal, the distributor of this film.
draw).



* WordOfGod: Kristen Stewart denied rumours that she was dropped from the film due to the affair scandal. While Rupert Sanders was replaced as director, Stewart herself says she was still offered scripts but turned them down.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The film was planned as a more direct sequel to the first one. Creator/KristenStewart was dropped from the project not long after the affair scandal between her and director Rupert Sanders. Stewart later claimed that she still was shown plenty of scripts and turned them down, disliking the material.

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* WordOfGod: Kristen Stewart denied rumours that she was dropped from TypeCasting: Right in the film due middle of Emily Blunt's typecasting as mean or villainous characters later revealed to the affair scandal. While Rupert Sanders was replaced as director, Stewart herself says she was still offered scripts but turned them down.
have extremely sympathetic backstories.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The film was planned as a more direct sequel to the first one. Creator/KristenStewart was dropped from the project not long after the affair scandal between her and director Rupert Sanders. Stewart later While she claimed that she still was shown plenty of scripts and simply turned them down, disliking down a lot of script ideas she didn't like, she later admitted she was let go because Universal wanted to avoid the material.backlash from the affair scandal. Frank Darabont was in talks to direct for a while before ultimately leaving.

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* {{Jossed}}: Kristen Stewart denied rumours that she was dropped from the film due to the affair scandal. While Rupert Sanders was replaced as director, Stewart herself says she was still offered scripts but turned them down.


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* WordOfGod: Kristen Stewart denied rumours that she was dropped from the film due to the affair scandal. While Rupert Sanders was replaced as director, Stewart herself says she was still offered scripts but turned them down.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Creator/JonFavreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[WesternAnimation/TheJungleBook1967 version.]] This is one of two fairy-tale sequel bombs for Joe Roth in 2016; Disney's ''Film/AliceThroughTheLookingGlass'' followed a few months later.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Creator/JonFavreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[WesternAnimation/TheJungleBook1967 version.]] This is one of two fairy-tale sequel bombs for Joe Roth in 2016; Disney's ''Film/AliceThroughTheLookingGlass'' followed a few months weeks later.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Creator/JonFavreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]] This is one of two fairy-tale sequel bombs for Joe Roth in 2016; Disney's ''Film/AliceThroughTheLookingGlass'' followed a few months later.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Creator/JonFavreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook [[WesternAnimation/TheJungleBook1967 version.]] This is one of two fairy-tale sequel bombs for Joe Roth in 2016; Disney's ''Film/AliceThroughTheLookingGlass'' followed a few months later.

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* ActorAllusion:
** Colin Morgan [[{{Series/Merlin}} once again]] has an ill-fated romance with a woman called Freya.
** It's also not [[Film/IntoTheWoods the first time]] Emily Blunt has had baby trouble in a fairy tale movie.
** If one watches ''{{Film/Looper}}'' then it's also not the first time Emily Blunt has to deal with out-of-control destructive powers - though in that case it's her son whose powers go haywire when ''she'' is hurt.
* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Jon Favreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]] This is one of two fairy-tale sequel bombs for Joe Roth in 2016; Disney's ''Film/AliceThroughTheLookingGlass'' followed a few months later.
* {{Corpsing}}: Emily Blunt describes the scene where Freya is riding a wolf-bear as a near-miss in terms of corpsing. She was riding a green screen mound, which had to move up and down as if it were a bear - driven by a man dressed in a full green bodysuit. Emily describes seeing Jessica Chastain doing her hardest not to burst into hysterical laughter as the scene was being filmed.
* FakeNationality: Aussie Chris Hemsworth and American Jessica Chastain adopt Scottish accents. South African Charlize Theron puts on a British accent for Ravenna.

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* ActorAllusion:
** Colin Morgan [[{{Series/Merlin}} once again]] has an ill-fated romance with a woman called Freya.
** It's also not [[Film/IntoTheWoods the first time]] Emily Blunt has had baby trouble in a fairy tale movie.
** If one watches ''{{Film/Looper}}'' then it's also not the first time Emily Blunt has to deal with out-of-control destructive powers - though in that case it's her son whose powers go haywire when ''she'' is hurt.
* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Jon Favreau's Creator/JonFavreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]] This is one of two fairy-tale sequel bombs for Joe Roth in 2016; Disney's ''Film/AliceThroughTheLookingGlass'' followed a few months later.
* {{Corpsing}}: Emily Blunt describes the scene where Freya is riding a wolf-bear as a near-miss in terms of corpsing. She ContractualObligationProject: Creator/JessicaChastain was riding given a green screen mound, which had to move up and down as if it were a bear - driven by a man dressed starring role in ''Film/CrimsonPeak'' provided that she would also later appear in this film.
* FakeBrit: South African Charlize Theron puts on
a full green bodysuit. Emily describes seeing Jessica Chastain doing her hardest not to burst into hysterical laughter as the scene was being filmed.
British accent for Ravenna.
* FakeNationality: FakeScot: Aussie Chris Hemsworth and American Jessica Chastain adopt Scottish accents. South African Charlize Theron puts on a British accent for Ravenna.



** A disagreement between Charlize Theron and producers of this film was made public as of the Sony Email Hacks. When she discovered Chris Hemsworth was being paid $10 million for his role, she demanded the same amount to appear in the film (as she is a proven Box Office draw).
** Subverted with Jessica Chastain, [[ExecutiveMeddling as she was only in this due to a contractual obligation]] from her ''Film/CrimsonPeak'' contract from Universal, the distributor of this film.

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** A disagreement between Charlize Theron Creator/CharlizeTheron and producers of this film was made public as of the Sony Email Hacks. When she discovered Chris Hemsworth Creator/ChrisHemsworth was being paid $10 million for his role, she demanded the same amount to appear in the film (as she is a proven Box Office draw).
** Subverted with Jessica Chastain, Creator/JessicaChastain, [[ExecutiveMeddling as she was only in this due to a contractual obligation]] from her ''Film/CrimsonPeak'' contract from Universal, the distributor of this film.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The film was planned as a more direct sequel to the first one. Kristen Stewart was dropped from the project not long after the affair scandal between her and director Rupert Sanders. Stewart later claimed that she still was shown plenty of scripts and turned them down, disliking the material.
* WolverinePublicity: Despite Freya being the main antagonist, with Sara and Eric as the protagonists, Ravenna is front and centre on most of the posters.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The film was planned as a more direct sequel to the first one. Kristen Stewart Creator/KristenStewart was dropped from the project not long after the affair scandal between her and director Rupert Sanders. Stewart later claimed that she still was shown plenty of scripts and turned them down, disliking the material.
* WolverinePublicity: Despite Freya being the main antagonist, with Sara and Eric as the protagonists, Ravenna is front and centre on most of the posters.----
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100% untrue.


* CreatorBacklash: Emily Blunt has since regretted making the film and took a piss on it during an interview promoting ''Literature/TheGirlOnTheTrain''.
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* CreatorBacklash: Emily Blunt has since regretted making the film and took a piss on it during an interview promoting ''Literature/TheGirlOnATrain''.

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* CreatorBacklash: Emily Blunt has since regretted making the film and took a piss on it during an interview promoting ''Literature/TheGirlOnATrain''.''Literature/TheGirlOnTheTrain''.
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* CreatorBacklash: Emily Blunt has since regretted making the film and took a piss on it during an interview promoting ''Literature/TheGirlOnATrain''.
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** If one watches ''{{Film/Looper}}'' then it's also not the first time Emily Blunt has to deal with out-of-control destructive powers - though in that case it's her son whose powers go haywire when ''she'' is hurt.



* {{Corpsing}}: Emily Blunt describes the scene where Freya is riding a wolf-bear as a near-miss in terms of corpsing. She was riding a green screen mound, which had to move up and down as if it were a bear - driven by a man dressed in a full green bodysuit. Emily describes seeing Jessica Chastain doing her hardest not to burst into hysterical laughter as the scene was being filmed.



* {{Jossed}}: Kristen Stewart denied rumours that she was dropped from the film due to the affair scandal. While Rupert Sanders was replaced as director, Stewart herself says she was still offered scripts but turned them down.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The film was planned as a more direct sequel to the first one. Kristen Stewart was dropped from the project not long after the affair scandal between her and director Rupert Sanders. Stewart later claimed that she still was shown plenty of scripts and turned them down, disliking the material.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The film was planned as a more direct sequel to the first one. Kristen Stewart was dropped from the project not long after the affair scandal between her and director Rupert Sanders. Stewart later claimed that she still was shown plenty of scripts and turned them down, disliking the material.material.
* WolverinePublicity: Despite Freya being the main antagonist, with Sara and Eric as the protagonists, Ravenna is front and centre on most of the posters.
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** Subverted with Jessica Chastain, as she was only in this due to a contractual obligation from her ''Film/CrimsonPeak'' contract from Universal, the distributor of this film.

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** Subverted with Jessica Chastain, [[ExecutiveMeddling as she was only in this due to a contractual obligation obligation]] from her ''Film/CrimsonPeak'' contract from Universal, the distributor of this film.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Jon Favreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]] This is one of two fairy-tale bombs for Joe Roth in 2016; Disney's ''Film/AliceThroughTheLookingGlass'' followed a few months later.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Jon Favreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]] This is one of two fairy-tale sequel bombs for Joe Roth in 2016; Disney's ''Film/AliceThroughTheLookingGlass'' followed a few months later.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Jon Favreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]]

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Jon Favreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]]]] This is one of two fairy-tale bombs for Joe Roth in 2016; Disney's ''Film/AliceThroughTheLookingGlass'' followed a few months later.
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* FakeNationality: Aussie Chris Hemsworth and American Jessica Chastain adopt Scottish accents. Charlize Theron puts on a British accent for Ravenna.

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* FakeNationality: Aussie Chris Hemsworth and American Jessica Chastain adopt Scottish accents. South African Charlize Theron puts on a British accent for Ravenna.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $160.5 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Jon Favreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]]

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $160.5 $115 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Jon Favreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]]
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $160.5 million. Box office, $47.5 million (domestic), $160.6 million (worldwide). The poor box office showing in the U.S. was due to both lower ratings from critics than the original film and it opening in the wake of Jon Favreau's ''[[Film/TheJungleBook2016 The Jungle Book]]'', which actually managed to be more critically acclaimed than Walt Disney and Wolfgang Reithermann's [[Disney/TheJungleBook version.]]
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* PlayingAgainstType: In the Japanese dub, Freya is voiced by no one else than ''Creator/NanaMizuki'', a voice actress well-known for voicing very heroic roles like [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Hinata Hyuga]] or [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha Fate Testarossa]].

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* PlayingAgainstType: In the Japanese dub, Freya is voiced by no one else than ''Creator/NanaMizuki'', and, while [[Anime/TigerAndBunny not the]] [[Manga/SaintSeiyaTheLostCanvas first time playing a villain]], she's a voice actress well-known for voicing very heroic roles like [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Hinata Hyuga]] or [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha Fate Testarossa]].
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* PlayingAgainstType: In the Japanese dub, Freya is voiced by no one else than ''Creator/NanaMizuki'', a voice actress well-known for voicing very heroic roles like [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Hinata Hyuga]] or [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha Fate Testarossa]].

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* MoneyDearBoy: A disagreement between Charlize Theron and producers of this film was made public as of the Sony Email Hacks. When she discovered Chris Hemsworth was being paid $10 million for his role, she demanded the same amount to appear in the film (as she is a proven Box Office draw).

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* MoneyDearBoy: MoneyDearBoy:
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A disagreement between Charlize Theron and producers of this film was made public as of the Sony Email Hacks. When she discovered Chris Hemsworth was being paid $10 million for his role, she demanded the same amount to appear in the film (as she is a proven Box Office draw).



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The film was planned as a more direct sequel to the first one. Kristen Stewart was dropped from the project not long after the affair scandal between her and director Rupert Sanders.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The film was planned as a more direct sequel to the first one. Kristen Stewart was dropped from the project not long after the affair scandal between her and director Rupert Sanders. Stewart later claimed that she still was shown plenty of scripts and turned them down, disliking the material.
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** Subverted with Jessica Chastain, as she was only in this due to a contractual obligation from her ''Film/CrimsonPeak'' contract from Universal, the distributor of this film.
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* FranchiseKiller: Universal scrapped plans for a fairy tale franchise centered around Snow White after predicting it would lose $70 million due to poor box office numbers.

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* FranchiseKiller: Universal scrapped plans for a fairy tale franchise centered around Snow White after predicting it would lose $70 million due to the film's poor box office numbers.
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* FranchiseKiller: Universal scrapped plans for a fairy tale franchise centered around Snow White after predicting it would lose $70 million due to poor box office numbers.
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* ActorAllusion:
** Colin Morgan [[{{Series/Merlin}} once again]] has an ill-fated romance with a woman called Freya.
** It's also not [[Film/IntoTheWoods the first time]] Emily Blunt has had baby trouble in a fairy tale movie.
* FakeNationality: Aussie Chris Hemsworth and American Jessica Chastain adopt Scottish accents. Charlize Theron puts on a British accent for Ravenna.
* MoneyDearBoy: A disagreement between Charlize Theron and producers of this film was made public as of the Sony Email Hacks. When she discovered Chris Hemsworth was being paid $10 million for his role, she demanded the same amount to appear in the film (as she is a proven Box Office draw).
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The film was planned as a more direct sequel to the first one. Kristen Stewart was dropped from the project not long after the affair scandal between her and director Rupert Sanders.

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