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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle; Knight even made a point of telling them that he was going to leave before ''Abysmal'' was even recorded, had Ellis lined up to replace him well in advance, and just generally took great pains to make it as easy a split as possible. Played ''very'' straight with Zach Gibson and John Kempainen; Gibson absolutely hated Brian Eschbach and left with a ton of drama, while Kempainen just didn't give a shit and contributed literally nothing save for leads, which were improvised on the spot because he didn't feel like writing them. Gibson has since made amends with Trevor, at the very least, and the two are currently decent friends and Trevor is a fan of Nightkin and Shit Life.

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Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle; Knight even made a point of telling them that he was going to leave before ''Abysmal'' was even recorded, had Ellis lined up to replace him well in advance, and just generally took great pains to make it as easy a split as possible. possible.
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Played ''very'' straight with Zach Gibson and John Kempainen; Gibson absolutely hated Brian Eschbach and left with a ton of drama, while Kempainen just didn't give a shit and contributed literally nothing save for leads, which were improvised on the spot because he didn't feel like writing them. Gibson has since made amends with Trevor, at the very least, and the two are currently decent friends and Trevor is a fan of Nightkin and Shit Life.

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* BigNameFan: Trevor is this as a whole. He has mentioned numerous times that he's just as much of a fan as he is a performer, and that going from being the token socially-awkward kid who was into the more underground side of metal in high school to touring and playing shows with all the acts that he grew up on plus being able to use his now-famous name to call attention to up-and-coming underground acts that he loves is a dream come true.



* PromotedFanboy: Ryan Knight and Alan Cassidy. [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] with Max Lavelle, as Trevor was a big Goratory fan long before Max was even in the band and had known him, [[Music/{{Sexcrement}} Adam]], [[Music/JobForACowboy Al]], and [[Music/{{Abnormality}} Jay]] for some time (having crashed at the Goratory house in Natick with the rest of the band ''way'' back during their early touring days). Alan Cassidy got to do this a second time with Slugdge, as he was already a huge fan of their music; on their end, they inverted this trope as well, as Matt Moss and Kevin Pearson were longtime TBDM fans.

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Ryan Knight and Alan Cassidy. [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] with Max Lavelle, as Trevor was a big Goratory fan long before Max was even in the band and had known him, [[Music/{{Sexcrement}} Adam]], [[Music/JobForACowboy Al]], and [[Music/{{Abnormality}} Jay]] for some time (having crashed at the Goratory house in Natick with the rest of the band ''way'' back during their early touring days). Alan Cassidy got to do this a second time with Slugdge, as he was already a huge fan of their music; on their end, they inverted this trope as well, as Matt Moss and Kevin Pearson were longtime TBDM fans.fans.
** Trevor is this as a whole. He has mentioned numerous times that he's just as much of a fan as he is a performer, and that going from being the token socially-awkward kid who was into the more underground side of metal in high school to touring and playing shows with all the acts that he grew up on plus being able to use his now-famous name to call attention to up-and-coming underground acts that he loves is a dream come true.
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* ApprovalOfGod: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCunAPZGAHs Members of various brutal death and slam acts]][[note]]Andrew [=LoMastro=] (Cerebral Incubation), Travis [=LaBerge=] (Splattered), Charlie Marvel (Visceral Disgorge), Joe Mortimer (Crepitation), and Matt Kilner (Gorgasm, Iniquitous Deeds)[[/note]] covered "What a Horrible Night to Have a Curse" for the Metal Injection Slay at Home series in October of 2020, and Trevor personally praised the cover.

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* ApprovalOfGod: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCunAPZGAHs Members of various brutal death and slam acts]][[note]]Andrew [=LoMastro=] (Cerebral Incubation), Travis [=LaBerge=] (Splattered), Charlie Marvel (Visceral Disgorge), Joe Mortimer (Crepitation), and Matt Kilner (Gorgasm, Iniquitous Deeds)[[/note]] covered "What a Horrible Night to Have a Curse" for the Metal Injection Slay at Home series in October of 2020, and Trevor personally praised the cover. Andrew [=LoMastro=] himself was surprised by how well the cover turned out - by his own admission, he had never done highs like that before and had just winged it, and he was as shocked as anyone that he pulled it off.
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* ApprovalOfGod: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCunAPZGAHs Members of various brutal death and slam acts]][[note]]Andrew [=LoMastro=] (Cerebral Incubation), Travis [=LaBerge=] (Splattered), Charlie Marvel (Visceral Disgorge), Joe Mortimer (Crepitation), and Matt Kilner (Gorgasm, Iniquitous Deeds)[[/note]] covered "What a Horrible Night to Have a Curse" for the Metal Injection Slay at Home series in October of 2020, and Trevor personally praised the cover.
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* CreatorsOddball: ''Everblack''. While they had been moving in a heavier and darker direction over the past few albums, ''Everblack'' was a distinctly less melodic (by their standards) and more blackened and old-school leaning album that was a notable departure from their established style. The album was divisive at the time and is still a fairly polarizing album years after its release, and it is likely not an accident that its followup (''Abysmal'') wound up being their most melodic album to date.

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* CreatorsOddball: ''Everblack''.''Everblack'' was originally this. While they had been moving in a heavier and darker direction over the past few albums, ''Everblack'' was a distinctly less melodic (by their standards) and more blackened and old-school leaning album that was a notable departure from their established style. The album was divisive at the time and is still a fairly polarizing album years after its release, and it is likely not an accident that its followup (''Abysmal'') wound up being their most melodic album to date. They would later revisit similar ideas on ''Verminous'', which, in spite of carrying over the power metal elements heard on ''Nightbringers'', also had extremely prominent old-school death metal and death/thrash elements, making ''Everblack'' less of this.
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* CreatorBacklash: Trevor does not have the greatest opinion of ''Miasma'', ''Deflorate'', or ''Abysmal''. As far as he's concerned, ''Miasma'' was a confused, unfocused album that involved way too many last-minute plan B's due to plan A either falling through or not coming out right, ''Deflorate'' was too technical for its own good and was just a bunch of extremely fast songs from start to finish with no room to breathe, and ''Abysmal'' involved a lot of writer's block and a major miscommunication between the band and the label about the mix.

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* CreatorBacklash: Trevor does not have the greatest opinion of ''Miasma'', ''Deflorate'', or ''Abysmal''. As far as he's concerned, ''Miasma'' was a confused, unfocused album that involved way too many last-minute plan B's due to plan A either falling through or not coming out right, ''Deflorate'' was too technical for its own good and was just a bunch of extremely fast songs from start to finish with no room to breathe, breathe (though he has cited "I Will Return" as his favorite song in the band's entire catalog), and ''Abysmal'' involved a lot of writer's block and a major miscommunication between the band and the label about the mix.



* CreatorsFavoriteEpisode: The band has made it clear that while ''Nocturnal'' was their defining work and the album that made their career, ''Nightbringers'' was their personal favorite album from the moment that they finished writing it up to the end of its touring cycle. To paraphrase the band, they ''knew'' it was something special right from the start. While Trevor has cited ''Unhallowed'' as his own personal favorite, it was more due to what it represented as the debut of a bunch of young, broke kids who had never even really toured and were just living on a prayer, but wanted to go out, kick some ass, and show the world what was up; musically, ''Nightbringers'' is still his favorite.

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* CreatorsFavoriteEpisode: The band has made it clear that while ''Nocturnal'' was their defining work and the album that made their career, ''Nightbringers'' was their personal favorite album from the moment that they finished writing it up to the end of its touring cycle. To paraphrase the band, they ''knew'' it was something special right from the start. While Trevor has cited ''Unhallowed'' as his own personal favorite, it was more due to what it represented as the debut of a bunch of young, broke kids who had never even really toured and were just living on a prayer, but wanted to go out, kick some ass, and show the world what was up; musically, ''Nightbringers'' is still his favorite. On an individual song basis, he has cited "I Will Return" as his favorite.
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* ScheduleSlip: Their upcoming full-length breaks the "every two years" release schedule that they maintained up to ''Nightbringers''. This is due to the extremely heavy touring that they did for ''Nightbringers'', as they just kept getting offers for huge bills that they couldn't refuse.

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* ScheduleSlip: Their upcoming full-length breaks ''Verminous'' broke the "every two years" release schedule that they maintained up to ''Nightbringers''. This is was due to the extremely heavy touring that they did for ''Nightbringers'', as they just kept getting offers for huge bills that they couldn't refuse.
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* ScheduleSlip: Their upcoming full-length breaks the "every two years" release schedule that they maintained up to ''Nightbringers''. This is due to the extremely heavy touring that they did for ''Nightbringers'', as they just kept getting offers for huge bills that they couldn't refuse.
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* MagnumOpusDissonance: While ''Nocturnal'' is the prevailing fan favorite (and certainly their [[BreakthroughHit watershed album]]), it is not Trevor's favorite, as he placed it below ''Unhallowed'', ''Nightbringers'', and ''Ritual''. ''Ritual'', meanwhile, is somewhat divisive among the fanbase, but Trevor loves it for its variety, experimentation, and overarching concept, and has stated that out of the albums that they have yet to do full-album tours for, it is the only one that he would really jump at the chance to play in full. Lastly, while many fans (especially older fans) cite ''Miasma'' as one of their favorites (sometimes their absolute favorite), Trevor himself dislikes the album and sees it as one large collection of ideas that looked better on paper and a general case of SophomoreSlump.

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* CreatorBacklash: Trevor does not have the greatest opinion of ''Miasma'', ''Deflorate'', or ''Abysmal''. As far as he's concerned, ''Miasma'' was a confused, unfocused album that involved way too many last-minute plan B's due to plan A either falling through or not coming out right, ''Deflorate'' was too technical for its own good and was just a bunch of extremely fast songs from start to finish with no room to breathe, and ''Abysmal'' involved a lot of writer's block and a major miscommunication between the band and the label about the mix.



* CreatorsFavoriteEpisode: The band has made it clear that while ''Nocturnal'' was their defining work and the album that made their career, ''Nightbringers'' was their personal favorite album from the moment that they finished writing it up to the end of its touring cycle. To paraphrase the band, they ''knew'' it was something special right from the start.

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* CreatorsFavoriteEpisode: The band has made it clear that while ''Nocturnal'' was their defining work and the album that made their career, ''Nightbringers'' was their personal favorite album from the moment that they finished writing it up to the end of its touring cycle. To paraphrase the band, they ''knew'' it was something special right from the start. While Trevor has cited ''Unhallowed'' as his own personal favorite, it was more due to what it represented as the debut of a bunch of young, broke kids who had never even really toured and were just living on a prayer, but wanted to go out, kick some ass, and show the world what was up; musically, ''Nightbringers'' is still his favorite.
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* CreatorsFavoriteEpisode: The band has made it clear that while ''Nocturnal'' was their defining work and the album that made their career, ''Nightbringers'' was their personal favorite album from the moment that they finished writing it up to the end of its touring cycle. To paraphrase the band, they ''knew'' it was something special right from the start.
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* OneOfUs: Despite their genre of choice, they're quite fond of brutal death metal (they even did a few songs showcasing the style, and ''Everblack'' is highly influenced by the genre), and Strnad is also a big fan of horror movies and literature.
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* NoExportForYou: "Seppuku" on ''Everblack'' is a Japanese bonus track, while "We Dead Are Best Left Underground", "Hellion", and "Der Ton" off of ''Abysmal'' and "Gone But Not Forgotten", [[Music/{{Carcass}} "This Mortal Coil"]], [[Music/AtTheGates "The Swarm"]], and live versions of "Abysmal" and "When the Last Grave Has Emptied" off of ''Nightbringers'' are all European bonus tracks.
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* BreakthroughHit: ''Nocturnal''. While they had gained a reputation as an act to watch for with ''Unhallowed'' and had managed to successfully follow it up with ''Miasma'', it was their Ozzfest 2005 appearance that exposed them to a much wider audience that really paved the way for them, and between that and the rise of deathcore (which they were never part of, but they had substantial crossover appeal with that fanbase, in addition to being an influence on many of the newer acts at the time), they managed to explode out of the gate with that album and became a major act almost immediately.
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* CreatorsOddball: ''Everblack''. While they had been moving in a heavier and darker direction over the past few albums, ''Everblack'' was a distinctly less melodic (by their standards) and more blackened and old-school leaning album that was a notable departure from their established style. The album was divisive at the time and is still a fairly polarizing album years after its release, and it is likely not an accident that its followup (''Abysmal'') wound up being their most melodic album to date.
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* PromotedFanboy: Ryan Knight and Alan Cassidy. [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] with Max Lavelle, as Trevor was a big Goratory fan long before Max was even in the band and had known him, [[Music/{{Sexcrement}} Adam]], [[Music/JobForACowboy Al]], and [[Music/{{Abnormality}} Jay]] for some time (having crashed at the Goratory house in Natick with the rest of the band ''way'' back during their early touring days).

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* PromotedFanboy: Ryan Knight and Alan Cassidy. [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] with Max Lavelle, as Trevor was a big Goratory fan long before Max was even in the band and had known him, [[Music/{{Sexcrement}} Adam]], [[Music/JobForACowboy Al]], and [[Music/{{Abnormality}} Jay]] for some time (having crashed at the Goratory house in Natick with the rest of the band ''way'' back during their early touring days). Alan Cassidy got to do this a second time with Slugdge, as he was already a huge fan of their music; on their end, they inverted this trope as well, as Matt Moss and Kevin Pearson were longtime TBDM fans.
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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle; Knight even made a point of telling them that he was going to leave before ''Abysmal'' was even recorded, had Ellis lined up to replace him well in advance, and just generally took great pains to make it as easy a split as possible. Played ''very'' straight with Zach Gibson and John Kempainen; Gibson absolutely hated Brian Eschbach and left with a ton of drama, while Kempainen just didn't give a shit and contributed literally nothing save for leads, which were improvised on the spot because he didn't feel like writing them.

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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle; Knight even made a point of telling them that he was going to leave before ''Abysmal'' was even recorded, had Ellis lined up to replace him well in advance, and just generally took great pains to make it as easy a split as possible. Played ''very'' straight with Zach Gibson and John Kempainen; Gibson absolutely hated Brian Eschbach and left with a ton of drama, while Kempainen just didn't give a shit and contributed literally nothing save for leads, which were improvised on the spot because he didn't feel like writing them. Gibson has since made amends with Trevor, at the very least, and the two are currently decent friends and Trevor is a fan of Nightkin and Shit Life.
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* OldShame: They'd prefer that you not remember their first demo.

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* OldShame: They'd prefer that you not remember their first demo. Trevor's response to fans who have asked them to reissue it or play songs off it whenever he has made a "remember when?" post on social media has always been along the lines of "yeah, how about no".
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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle. Played ''very'' straight with Zach Gibson and John Kempainen; Gibson absolutely hated Brian Eschbach and left with a ton of drama, while Kempainen just didn't give a shit and contributed literally nothing save for leads, which were improvised on the spot because he didn't feel like writing them.

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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle.lifestyle; Knight even made a point of telling them that he was going to leave before ''Abysmal'' was even recorded, had Ellis lined up to replace him well in advance, and just generally took great pains to make it as easy a split as possible. Played ''very'' straight with Zach Gibson and John Kempainen; Gibson absolutely hated Brian Eschbach and left with a ton of drama, while Kempainen just didn't give a shit and contributed literally nothing save for leads, which were improvised on the spot because he didn't feel like writing them.
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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle. Played ''very'' straight with David Lock, Zach Gibson, and John Kempainen, none of whom took their roles in the band seriously and (in the case of the first two) didn't practice, couldn't play their material, and didn't care (and, in the case of Gibson, did ''not'' get along with Brian Eschbach), and in the case of the third, contributed so little that he may as well not have even been a member (as he wrote absolutely nothing; his leads were all improvised on the spot because he didn't even bother writing those) and wound up leaving with little warning right before a major tour.

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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle. Played ''very'' straight with David Lock, Zach Gibson, Gibson and John Kempainen, none of whom took their roles in the band seriously Kempainen; Gibson absolutely hated Brian Eschbach and (in the case left with a ton of the first two) drama, while Kempainen just didn't practice, couldn't play their material, give a shit and didn't care (and, in the case of Gibson, did ''not'' get along with Brian Eschbach), and in the case of the third, contributed so little that he may as well not have even been a member (as he wrote absolutely nothing; his leads literally nothing save for leads, which were all improvised on the spot because he didn't even bother feel like writing those) and wound up leaving with little warning right before a major tour.them.
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* BigNameFan: Trevor is this as a whole. He has mentioned numerous times that he's just as much of a fan as a performer, and that going from being the token socially-awkward kid who was into the more underground side of metal in high school to touring and playing shows with all the acts that he grew up on plus being able to use his now-famous name to call attention to up-and-coming underground acts that he loves is a dream come true.

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* BigNameFan: Trevor is this as a whole. He has mentioned numerous times that he's just as much of a fan as he is a performer, and that going from being the token socially-awkward kid who was into the more underground side of metal in high school to touring and playing shows with all the acts that he grew up on plus being able to use his now-famous name to call attention to up-and-coming underground acts that he loves is a dream come true.
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* BigNameFan: Trevor is this as a whole. He has mentioned numerous times that he's just as much of a fan as a performer, and that going from being the token socially-awkward kid who was into the more underground side of metal in high school to touring and playing shows with all the acts that he grew up on plus being able to use his now-famous name to call attention to up-and-coming underground acts that he loves is a dream come true.
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** Subverted with the video "Everything Went Black". It actually ''is'' a high-budget horror mini-movie. See the entry for ShoutOut.

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** Subverted with the video "Everything Went Black". It actually ''is'' a high-budget horror mini-movie. See the entry for ShoutOut.ShoutOut.
** The ''Abysmal'' bonus track "Der Ton" was the result of them fucking around in the studio.
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* PromotedFanboy: Ryan Knight and Alan Cassidy.

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* PromotedFanboy: Ryan Knight and Alan Cassidy. [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] with Max Lavelle, as Trevor was a big Goratory fan long before Max was even in the band and had known him, [[Music/{{Sexcrement}} Adam]], [[Music/JobForACowboy Al]], and [[Music/{{Abnormality}} Jay]] for some time (having crashed at the Goratory house in Natick with the rest of the band ''way'' back during their early touring days).
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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle. Played ''very'' straight with David Lock, Zach Gibson, and John Kempainen, none of whom took their roles in the band seriously and (in the case of the first two) didn't practice, couldn't play their material, and didn't care, and in the case of the third, contributed so little that he may as well not have even been a member (as he wrote absolutely nothing; his leads were all improvised on the spot because he didn't even bother writing those) and wound up leaving with little warning right before a major tour.

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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle. Played ''very'' straight with David Lock, Zach Gibson, and John Kempainen, none of whom took their roles in the band seriously and (in the case of the first two) didn't practice, couldn't play their material, and didn't care, care (and, in the case of Gibson, did ''not'' get along with Brian Eschbach), and in the case of the third, contributed so little that he may as well not have even been a member (as he wrote absolutely nothing; his leads were all improvised on the spot because he didn't even bother writing those) and wound up leaving with little warning right before a major tour.
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* CreativeDifferences: Subverted with Ryan Williams, Shannon Lucas, and Ryan Knight, as they were all just very burned out on the touring lifestyle. Played ''very'' straight with David Lock, Zach Gibson, and John Kempainen, none of whom took their roles in the band seriously and (in the case of the first two) didn't practice, couldn't play their material, and didn't care, and in the case of the third, contributed so little that he may as well not have even been a member (as he wrote absolutely nothing; his leads were all improvised on the spot because he didn't even bother writing those) and wound up leaving with little warning right before a major tour.


* TheyJustDidntCare: Strnad, Eschbach, and Kempainen felt this way about Zach Gibson. David Lock was merely a bad case of TheSlacker and didn't practice enough to be able to consistently play his own material, and they made it clear that it broke their heart to have to get rid of him. Gibson, on the other hand, was apparently extremely sloppy, knew about it, and didn't give a shit either way, and they got sick of his ''extremely'' laissez-faire attitude towards band matters real fast and indicated that hiring him was a mistake and that he would not be missed.

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* TheyJustDidntCare: Strnad, Eschbach, and Kempainen felt this way about Zach Gibson. David Lock was merely a bad case of TheSlacker and didn't practice enough to be able to consistently play his own material, and they made it clear that it broke their heart to have to get rid of him. Gibson, on the other hand, was apparently extremely sloppy, knew about it, and didn't give a shit either way, and they got sick of his ''extremely'' laissez-faire attitude towards band matters real fast and indicated that hiring him was a mistake and that he would not be missed.
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** Subverted with the video "Everything Went Black". It actually ''is'' a high-budget horror mini-movie. See the entry for ShoutOut above.

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* OldShame: They'd prefer that you not remember their first demo.
* OneOfUs: Despite their genre of choice, they're quite fond of brutal death metal (they even did a few songs showcasing the style, and ''Everblack'' is highly influenced by the genre), and Strnad is also a big fan of horror movies and literature.
* PromotedFanboy: Ryan Knight and Alan Cassidy.
* ThrowItIn: Normally you'd think that the music videos for their songs would be high-budget horror mini-movies. [[spoiler: Their music videos, most of the time, focus on the band members' free time while touring. HilarityEnsues.]]
** Subverted with the video "Everything Went Black". It actually ''is'' a high-budget horror mini-movie. See the entry for ShoutOut above.

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