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* OldShame: Many of the cast and crew regarded this as the worst episode of Season 4 and among the worst episodes of TNG overall.

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* OldShame: CreatorBacklash: Many of the cast and crew regarded this as the worst episode of Season 4 and among the worst episodes of TNG overall.
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* PropRecycling: The USS ''Brattain'' is a reuse of the Miranda-class USS ''Reliant'' model from ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''.
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-->That was a yawner, wasn't it? That was a shitty piece of special effects work when Troi was flying with those cloud[s] around her. That was below our standard.

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-->That --->That was a yawner, wasn't it? That was a shitty piece of special effects work when Troi was flying with those cloud[s] around her. That was below our standard.



-->I liked the storyline of that episode because it was about the dreamworld, and I'm of Greek descent so I totally believe dreams mean something. And not the Freudian thing, all this hocus pocus. So that was another one that I could relate to really strongly. But I did hate the flying.

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-->I --->I liked the storyline of that episode because it was about the dreamworld, and I'm of Greek descent so I totally believe dreams mean something. And not the Freudian thing, all this hocus pocus. So that was another one that I could relate to really strongly. But I did hate the flying.



-->[I]t was the first show right after Christmas hiatus and I don't think everybody was quite back on their feet yet. As a result, the energy level was way down and the timing was off and the nature of the problem made everybody start reading slowly... The bottom line was that it was no longer a script because they were dream deprived. They were all talking slowly and after a while that gets pretty boring, and the middle of that show sagged and was slow, boring and disappointing.

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-->[I]t --->[I]t was the first show right after Christmas hiatus and I don't think everybody was quite back on their feet yet. As a result, the energy level was way down and the timing was off and the nature of the problem made everybody start reading slowly... The bottom line was that it was no longer a script because they were dream deprived. They were all talking slowly and after a while that gets pretty boring, and the middle of that show sagged and was slow, boring and disappointing.

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* OldShame: Many of the cast and crew regarded this as the worst episode of Season 4 and among the worst episodes of TNG overall, with the director refusing to even talk about it in later interviews, Creator/JonathanFrakes describing it as a "yawner" and both Marina Sirtis and the visual effects supervisor feeling that the scenes involving Troi flying looked embarrassingly awful.
* RecycledScript: The ''Enterprise'' crew unknowingly losing their sanity, complete with a brawl in Ten-Foward. Are we talking about this episode or season 3's "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E23Sarek Sarek]]"? Some fans even mistakenly think the scene with Guinan firing her rifle came from "Sarek".

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* OldShame: Many of the cast and crew regarded this as the worst episode of Season 4 and among the worst episodes of TNG overall, with the director refusing to even talk about it in later interviews, overall.
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Creator/JonathanFrakes describing it as remarked:
-->That was
a "yawner" and both yawner, wasn't it? That was a shitty piece of special effects work when Troi was flying with those cloud[s] around her. That was below our standard.
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Marina Sirtis opined:
-->I liked the storyline of that episode because it was about the dreamworld, and I'm of Greek descent so I totally believe dreams mean something. And not the Freudian thing, all this hocus pocus. So that was another one that I could relate to really strongly. But I did hate the flying.
** Michael Piller concluded:
-->[I]t was the first show right after Christmas hiatus and I don't think everybody was quite back on their feet yet. As a result, the energy level was way down
and the visual effects supervisor feeling timing was off and the nature of the problem made everybody start reading slowly... The bottom line was that it was no longer a script because they were dream deprived. They were all talking slowly and after a while that gets pretty boring, and the scenes involving middle of that show sagged and was slow, boring and disappointing.
** Director Les Landau blocked this episode out and prefers not to discuss it, for reasons he won't elaborate. It had something to do with
Troi flying looked embarrassingly awful.
floating in space.
* RecycledScript: The ''Enterprise'' crew unknowingly losing their sanity, complete with a brawl in Ten-Foward. Are we talking about this episode or season 3's "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E23Sarek Sarek]]"? Some fans even mistakenly think the scene with Guinan firing her rifle came from "Sarek"."Sarek".
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* {{Blooper}}: In the script and on some of the display graphics seen in the episode, the starship is spelled ''USS Brattain'' (WordOfGod says it's named after Walter Houser Brattain, the inventor of the transistor). But on the studio model, it's spelled ''Brittain''.

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* {{Blooper}}: In the script and on some of the display graphics seen in the episode, the starship is spelled ''USS Brattain'' USS ''Brattain'' (WordOfGod says it's named after Walter Houser Brattain, the inventor of the transistor). But on the studio model, it's spelled ''Brittain''.
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* RecycledScript: The ''Enterprise'' crew unknowingly losing their sanity, complete with a brawl in Ten-Foward. Are we talking about this episode or season 3's "Sarek"? Some fans even mistakenly think the scene with Guinan firing her rifle came from "Sarek".

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* RecycledScript: The ''Enterprise'' crew unknowingly losing their sanity, complete with a brawl in Ten-Foward. Are we talking about this episode or season 3's "Sarek"? "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E23Sarek Sarek]]"? Some fans even mistakenly think the scene with Guinan firing her rifle came from "Sarek".
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** However, nearly every fan remembers the Ten Forward scene where Guinan fires her large laser rifle.
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** However, nearly every fan remembers the Ten Forward scene where Guinan fires her large laser rifle.

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** However, nearly every fan remembers the Ten Forward scene where Guinan fires her large laser rifle.rifle.
* RecycledScript: The ''Enterprise'' crew unknowingly losing their sanity, complete with a brawl in Ten-Foward. Are we talking about this episode or season 3's "Sarek"? Some fans even mistakenly think the scene with Guinan firing her rifle came from "Sarek".
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* OldShame: Many of the cast and crew regarded this as the worst episode of Season 4 and among the worst episodes of TNG overall, with the director refusing to even talk about it in later interviews, Creator/JonathanFrakes describing it as a "yawner" and both Marina Sirtis and the visual effects supervisor feeling that the scenes involving Troi flying looked embarrassingly awful.

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* OldShame: Many of the cast and crew regarded this as the worst episode of Season 4 and among the worst episodes of TNG overall, with the director refusing to even talk about it in later interviews, Creator/JonathanFrakes describing it as a "yawner" and both Marina Sirtis and the visual effects supervisor feeling that the scenes involving Troi flying looked embarrassingly awful.awful.
** However, nearly every fan remembers the Ten Forward scene where Guinan fires her large laser rifle.
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* {{Blooper}}: In the script and on some of the display graphics seen in the episode, the starship is spelled ''USS Brattain'' (WordOfGod says it's named after Walter Houser Brattain, the inventor of the transistor). But on the studio model, it's spelled ''Brittain''.

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* {{Blooper}}: In the script and on some of the display graphics seen in the episode, the starship is spelled ''USS Brattain'' (WordOfGod says it's named after Walter Houser Brattain, the inventor of the transistor). But on the studio model, it's spelled ''Brittain''.''Brittain''.
* OldShame: Many of the cast and crew regarded this as the worst episode of Season 4 and among the worst episodes of TNG overall, with the director refusing to even talk about it in later interviews, Creator/JonathanFrakes describing it as a "yawner" and both Marina Sirtis and the visual effects supervisor feeling that the scenes involving Troi flying looked embarrassingly awful.
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* {{Blooper}}: In the script and on some of the display graphics seen in the episode, the starship is spelled ''USS Brattain'' (WordOfGod says it's named after Walter Houser Brattain, the inventor of the transistor). But on the studio model, it's spelled ''Brittain''.

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