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!!The cartoon
* CrossdressingVoices[=/=]TalkingToHimself: Graham Fellows voices all three maincharacters.characters.
!!The film
* FakeBrit: Creator/JaneWyman as a Cockney.
* HostilityOnTheSet: The biography of Creator/MarleneDietrich by her daughter said that Dietrich did not particularly like Creator/JaneWyman, perhaps because they were such opposites.
* RomanceOnTheSet: According to Creator/MarleneDietrich's autobiography, she began a heated love affair with Michael Wilding while making this movie. Dietrich and Wilding never married, though Dietrich had been estranged from her husband for many years (and remained so until his death).
* UncreditedRole: Creator/MarleneDietrich's costumes were designed by (an uncredited) Christian Dior.
* WagTheDirector: In an extraordinary move for the normally controlling director, Creator/AlfredHitchcock allowed Creator/MarleneDietrich an exceptional amount of creative control for this movie, particularly in how she chose to light her scenes. Hitchcock knew that Dietrich had learned a great deal of the art of cinematography from Creator/JosefVonSternberg and Günther Rittau and let her to work with Cinematographer Wilkie Cooper to light and set her scenes the way that she wished.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/AlfredHitchcock originally wanted to cast Creator/TallulahBankhead for the role of Charlotte Inwood. But the studio suggested casting Creator/MarleneDietrich instead.
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!!The film
* FakeBrit: Creator/JaneWyman as a Cockney.
* HostilityOnTheSet: The biography of Creator/MarleneDietrich by her daughter said that Dietrich did not particularly like Creator/JaneWyman, perhaps because they were such opposites.
* RomanceOnTheSet: According to Creator/MarleneDietrich's autobiography, she began a heated love affair with Michael Wilding while making this movie. Dietrich and Wilding never married, though Dietrich had been estranged from her husband for many years (and remained so until his death).
* UncreditedRole: Creator/MarleneDietrich's costumes were designed by (an uncredited) Christian Dior.
* WagTheDirector: In an extraordinary move for the normally controlling director, Creator/AlfredHitchcock allowed Creator/MarleneDietrich an exceptional amount of creative control for this movie, particularly in how she chose to light her scenes. Hitchcock knew that Dietrich had learned a great deal of the art of cinematography from Creator/JosefVonSternberg and Günther Rittau and let her to work with Cinematographer Wilkie Cooper to light and set her scenes the way that she wished.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/AlfredHitchcock originally wanted to cast Creator/TallulahBankhead for the role of Charlotte Inwood. But the studio suggested casting Creator/MarleneDietrich instead.
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!!The 1950 Hitchcock Film:
* AbilityOverAppearance: Viewers really don't care that Creator/MarleneDietrich doesn't do an English accent to play Charlotte, or that an English actress wasn't cast instead. Simply because she's Marlene Dietrich and her performance is iconic.
* ActorInspiredElement: Creator/MarleneDietrich, a close personal friend of Music/EdithPiaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Gunther Rittau and Creator/JosefVonSternberg.
* CastTheExpert: Sgt. Mellish, the other policeman in the final scene, was played by Ballard Berkeley (the future Major on ''Series/FawltyTowers''). Besides his acting, Berkeley did part-time constable work for the London Metropolitan Police during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlfredHitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Jonathan's flashback of the events was a lie all along, breaking a long-established cinematic convention that flashbacks were always a true account of earlier events,]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
* DeletedRole: Irene Handl had a bigger part as the maid Miss Mason but most of the scenes were cut.
* ExecutiveMeddling:
** Hitchcock wanted Creator/TallulahBankhead for the role of Charlotte. The studio suggested Marlene Dietrich instead.
** Some lines from the Music/ColePorter song "Laziest Girl In Town" had to be cut or reworked because they were too risque.
* FakeBrit: American Creator/JaneWyman and German Creator/MarleneDietrich as Eve and Charlotte respectively. Neither of them bother with the accents though, and Eve's is hand waved by saying she was educated in America.
* HostilityOnTheSet: Hitchcock grew a bit frustrated with Creator/JaneWyman for trying to glam up her "Doris Tinsdale" look too much, and with Alastair Sim, who had a habit of mugging for the camera and trying to steal scenes.
* RealLifeRelative: Hitchcock's daughter Pat Hitchcock plays Chubby Banister. She also acted as Jane Wyman's stunt double for some driving scenes.
* RomanceOnTheSet: Creator/MarleneDietrich and Creator/MichaelWilding had a fling during filming.
* VacationDearBoy: Creator/AlfredHitchcock made this film primarily so he could spend time in London with his daughter, who was studying there at the time.
* WagTheDirector:
** Creator/JaneWyman struggled to look plain in her maid disguise, often bursting into tears whenever she was around the glamorous Creator/MarleneDietrich. She would often secretly put more make-up on or try to improve her appearance so as not to look as dowdy or frumpy.
** Dietrich was allowed to have some creative control over how she was shot, mainly because she had learned cinematography and lighting from actual European masters of the art, and she was willing to directly collaborate with the film's cinematographer to get the effects desired.
!!The 1997 Creator/AardmanAnimations Short:
* AbilityOverAppearance: Viewers really don't care that Creator/MarleneDietrich doesn't do an English accent to play Charlotte, or that an English actress wasn't cast instead. Simply because she's Marlene Dietrich and her performance is iconic.
* ActorInspiredElement: Creator/MarleneDietrich, a close personal friend of Music/EdithPiaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Gunther Rittau and Creator/JosefVonSternberg.
* CastTheExpert: Sgt. Mellish, the other policeman in the final scene, was played by Ballard Berkeley (the future Major on ''Series/FawltyTowers''). Besides his acting, Berkeley did part-time constable work for the London Metropolitan Police during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlfredHitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Jonathan's flashback of the events was a lie all along, breaking a long-established cinematic convention that flashbacks were always a true account of earlier events,]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
* DeletedRole: Irene Handl had a bigger part as the maid Miss Mason but most of the scenes were cut.
* ExecutiveMeddling:
** Hitchcock wanted Creator/TallulahBankhead for the role of Charlotte. The studio suggested Marlene Dietrich instead.
** Some lines from the Music/ColePorter song "Laziest Girl In Town" had to be cut or reworked because they were too risque.
* FakeBrit: American Creator/JaneWyman and German Creator/MarleneDietrich as Eve and Charlotte respectively. Neither of them bother with the accents though, and Eve's is hand waved by saying she was educated in America.
* HostilityOnTheSet: Hitchcock grew a bit frustrated with Creator/JaneWyman for trying to glam up her "Doris Tinsdale" look too much, and with Alastair Sim, who had a habit of mugging for the camera and trying to steal scenes.
* RealLifeRelative: Hitchcock's daughter Pat Hitchcock plays Chubby Banister. She also acted as Jane Wyman's stunt double for some driving scenes.
* RomanceOnTheSet: Creator/MarleneDietrich and Creator/MichaelWilding had a fling during filming.
* VacationDearBoy: Creator/AlfredHitchcock made this film primarily so he could spend time in London with his daughter, who was studying there at the time.
* WagTheDirector:
** Creator/JaneWyman struggled to look plain in her maid disguise, often bursting into tears whenever she was around the glamorous Creator/MarleneDietrich. She would often secretly put more make-up on or try to improve her appearance so as not to look as dowdy or frumpy.
** Dietrich was allowed to have some creative control over how she was shot, mainly because she had learned cinematography and lighting from actual European masters of the art, and she was willing to directly collaborate with the film's cinematographer to get the effects desired.
!!The 1997 Creator/AardmanAnimations Short:
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlfredHitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Jonathan was lying all along]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/AlfredHitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Jonathan Jonathan's flashback of the events was lying a lie all along]] along, breaking a long-established cinematic convention that flashbacks were always a true account of earlier events,]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
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** A positive example. Hitchcock wanted Creator/TallulahBankhead for the role of Charlotte. The studio suggested Marlene Dietrich instead.
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** A positive example. Hitchcock wanted Creator/TallulahBankhead for the role of Charlotte. The studio suggested Marlene Dietrich instead.
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* FakeBrit: American Jane Wyman and German Creator/MarleneDietrich as Eve and Charlotte respectively. Neither of them bother with the accents though, and Eve's is hand waved by saying she was educated in America.
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* FakeBrit: American Jane Wyman Creator/JaneWyman and German Creator/MarleneDietrich as Eve and Charlotte respectively. Neither of them bother with the accents though, and Eve's is hand waved by saying she was educated in America.
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** Dietrich was allowed to have some creative control over how she was shot, mainly because she had learned Cinematography cinematography and Lighting lighting from actual European masters of the art, and she was willing to directly collaborate with the film's cinematographer to get the effects desired.
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!!The 1997 Animated Short:
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* FakeBrit: American Jane Wyman and German Creator/MarleneDietrich as Eve and Charlotte respectively. Neither of them bother with the accents though, and Eve's is hand waved by saying she was educated in America.
* HostilityOnTheSet: Hitchcock grew a bit frustrated with Creator/JaneWyman for trying to glam up her "Doris Tinsdale" look too much, and with Alastair Sim, who had a habit of mugging for the camera and trying to steal scenes.
* HostilityOnTheSet: Hitchcock grew a bit frustrated with Creator/JaneWyman for trying to glam up her "Doris Tinsdale" look too much, and with Alastair Sim, who had a habit of mugging for the camera and trying to steal scenes.
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* CastTheExpert: Sgt. Mellish, the other policeman in the final scene, was played by Ballard Berkeley (the future Major on ''Series/FawltyTowers''). Besides his acting, Berkeley did part-time constable work for the London Metropolitan Police during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
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* ActorInspiredElement: Creator/MarleneDietrich, a close personal friend of Music/EdithPiaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Gunther Rittau and Josef von Sternberg.
* BeautyInversion: Done ''very'' reluctantly by Jane Wyman. See below.
* BeautyInversion: Done ''very'' reluctantly by Jane Wyman. See below.
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* ActorInspiredElement: Creator/MarleneDietrich, a close personal friend of Music/EdithPiaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Gunther Rittau and Josef von Sternberg.
* BeautyInversion: Done ''very'' reluctantly by Jane Wyman. See below.Creator/JosefVonSternberg.
* BeautyInversion: Done ''very'' reluctantly by Jane Wyman. See below.
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** Jane Wyman Creator/JaneWyman struggled to look plain in her maid disguise, often bursting into tears whenever she was around the glamorous Creator/MarleneDietrich. She would often secretly put more make-up on or try to improve her appearance so as not to look as dowdy or frumpy.
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** A positive example. Hitchcock wanted Tallulah Bankhead for the role of Charlotte. The studio suggested Marlene Dietrich instead.
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** A positive example. Hitchcock wanted Tallulah Bankhead Creator/TallulahBankhead for the role of Charlotte. The studio suggested Marlene Dietrich instead.
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* AbilityOverAppearance: Viewers really don't care that Marlene Dietrich doesn't do an English accent to play Charlotte, or that an English actress wasn't cast instead. Simply because she's Marlene Dietrich and her performance is iconic.
* ActorInspiredElement: Marlene Dietrich, a close personal friend of Edith Piaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Gunther Rittau and Josef von Sternberg.
* ActorInspiredElement: Marlene Dietrich, a close personal friend of Edith Piaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Gunther Rittau and Josef von Sternberg.
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* AbilityOverAppearance: Viewers really don't care that Marlene Dietrich Creator/MarleneDietrich doesn't do an English accent to play Charlotte, or that an English actress wasn't cast instead. Simply because she's Marlene Dietrich and her performance is iconic.
* ActorInspiredElement:Marlene Dietrich, Creator/MarleneDietrich, a close personal friend of Edith Piaf, Music/EdithPiaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Gunther Rittau and Josef von Sternberg.
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* CreatorBacklash: Hitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Jonathan was lying all along]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
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* CreatorBacklash: Hitchcock Creator/AlfredHitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Jonathan was lying all along]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
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* FakeBrit: American Jane Wyman and German Marlene Dietrich as Eve and Charlotte respectively. Neither of them bother with the accents though, and Eve's is hand waved by saying she was educated in America.
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* FakeBrit: American Jane Wyman and German Marlene Dietrich Creator/MarleneDietrich as Eve and Charlotte respectively. Neither of them bother with the accents though, and Eve's is hand waved by saying she was educated in America.
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* VacationDearBoy: Hitchcock made this film primarily so he could spend time in London with his daughter, who was studying there at the time.
* WagTheDirector: Jane Wyman struggled to look plain in her maid disguise, often bursting into tears whenever she was around the glamorous Marlene Dietrich. She would often secretly put more make-up on or try to improve her appearance so as not to look as dowdy or frumpy.
* WagTheDirector: Jane Wyman struggled to look plain in her maid disguise, often bursting into tears whenever she was around the glamorous Marlene Dietrich. She would often secretly put more make-up on or try to improve her appearance so as not to look as dowdy or frumpy.
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* VacationDearBoy: Hitchcock Creator/AlfredHitchcock made this film primarily so he could spend time in London with his daughter, who was studying there at the time.
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** Jane Wyman struggled to look plain in her maid disguise, often bursting into tears whenever she was around the glamorousMarlene Dietrich.Creator/MarleneDietrich. She would often secretly put more make-up on or try to improve her appearance so as not to look as dowdy or frumpy.
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** Jane Wyman struggled to look plain in her maid disguise, often bursting into tears whenever she was around the glamorous
** Dietrich was allowed to have some creative control over how she was shot, mainly because she had learned Cinematography and Lighting from actual European masters of the art, and she was willing to directly collaborate with the film's cinematographer to get the effects desired.
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* ActorInspiredElement: Marlene Dietrich, a close personal friend of Edith Piaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Guther Rittau and Josef von Sternberg.
* CreatorBacklash: Hitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Charlotte turns out to not be the killer]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
* CreatorBacklash: Hitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Charlotte turns out to not be the killer]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
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* AbilityOverAppearance: Viewers really don't care that Marlene Dietrich doesn't do an English accent to play Charlotte, or that an English actress wasn't cast instead. Simply because she's Marlene Dietrich and her performance is iconic.
* ActorInspiredElement: Marlene Dietrich, a close personal friend of Edith Piaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography fromGuther Gunther Rittau and Josef von Sternberg.
* BeautyInversion: Done ''very'' reluctantly by Jane Wyman. See below.
* CreatorBacklash: Hitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler:Charlotte turns out to not be the killer]] Jonathan was lying all along]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
* ActorInspiredElement: Marlene Dietrich, a close personal friend of Edith Piaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from
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!!The 1950 Hitchcock Film:
* ActorInspiredElement: Marlene Dietrich, a close personal friend of Edith Piaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Guther Rittau and Josef von Sternberg.
* CreatorBacklash: Hitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Charlotte turns out to not be the killer]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
* DeletedRole: Irene Handl had a bigger part as the maid Miss Mason but most of the scenes were cut.
* ExecutiveMeddling:
** A positive example. Hitchcock wanted Tallulah Bankhead for the role of Charlotte. The studio suggested Marlene Dietrich instead.
** Some lines from the Cole Porter song "Laziest Girl In Town" had to be cut or reworked because they were too risque.
* RealLifeRelative: Pat Hitchcock plays Chubby Banister. She also acted as Jane Wyman's stunt double for some driving scenes.
* VacationDearBoy: Hitchcock made this film primarily so he could spend time in London with his daughter, who was studying there at the time.
* WagTheDirector: Jane Wyman struggled to look plain in her maid disguise, often bursting into tears whenever she was around the glamorous Marlene Dietrich. She would often secretly put more make-up on or try to improve her appearance so as not to look as dowdy or frumpy.
!!The 1997 Animated Short:
* ActorInspiredElement: Marlene Dietrich, a close personal friend of Edith Piaf, got the singer's permission to sing "La Vie En Rose" in the film. Marlene was also allowed to have a lot of input in how her scenes were lit and shot - as Hitchcock knew she had learned a lot about cinematography from Guther Rittau and Josef von Sternberg.
* CreatorBacklash: Hitchcock regretted the twist where [[spoiler: Charlotte turns out to not be the killer]] after it was poorly received by audiences at the time.
* DeletedRole: Irene Handl had a bigger part as the maid Miss Mason but most of the scenes were cut.
* ExecutiveMeddling:
** A positive example. Hitchcock wanted Tallulah Bankhead for the role of Charlotte. The studio suggested Marlene Dietrich instead.
** Some lines from the Cole Porter song "Laziest Girl In Town" had to be cut or reworked because they were too risque.
* RealLifeRelative: Pat Hitchcock plays Chubby Banister. She also acted as Jane Wyman's stunt double for some driving scenes.
* VacationDearBoy: Hitchcock made this film primarily so he could spend time in London with his daughter, who was studying there at the time.
* WagTheDirector: Jane Wyman struggled to look plain in her maid disguise, often bursting into tears whenever she was around the glamorous Marlene Dietrich. She would often secretly put more make-up on or try to improve her appearance so as not to look as dowdy or frumpy.
!!The 1997 Animated Short:
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