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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/EdwardAsner was going to play Dr. Herman Cromwell but dropped out.

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Creator/EdwardAsner was going to play Dr. Herman Cromwell but dropped out.out.
** Another script was written to follow the WhatHappenedToTheMouse ending of the original, but was unused.
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** Creator/MichaelMadsen [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ doesn't have good things to say]] about the film. In fact, before Madsen's personal website was remodeled, the movie was listed in his filmography accompanied by only two words: "Big mistake".

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** Creator/MichaelMadsen [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ doesn't have good things to say]] about the film. In fact, before Madsen's personal website was remodeled, redesigned, the movie was listed in his filmography accompanied by only two words: "Big mistake".
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** Creator/NatashaHenstridge [[https://lebeauleblog.com/2021/07/21/natasha-henstridge-the-henstridge-maneuver/#comment-61758 also showed contempt]]: "I was really hoping that it would be more subtle. It’s like they took something that made money the first time around and they said, 'Let’s go a little further with the sex, the prostitutes, the violence, the blood,' and they just went too far."
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* BTeamSequel: Roger Donaldson had no interest in returning to direct.



** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about it either, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.

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** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about it either, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.involvement.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/EdwardAsner was going to play Dr. Herman Cromwell but dropped out.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $35 million. Global box office, $26.8 million.
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** Creator/MichaelMadsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about the film.

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** Creator/MichaelMadsen [[http://www.metro.[[https://metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ doesn't have good things to say]] about the film.film. In fact, before Madsen's personal website was remodeled, the movie was listed in his filmography accompanied by only two words: "Big mistake".
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** Creator/MichaelMadsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about it.
** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about the it either, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.

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** Creator/MichaelMadsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about it.
the film.
** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about the it either, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.
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** Michael Madsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about it.

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** Michael Madsen Creator/MichaelMadsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about it.
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** Michael Madsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about ''Species II''.
** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about the second film, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.

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** Michael Madsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about ''Species II''.
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** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about the second film, it either, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.
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** Michael Madsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about ''Species II''.
** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about the second film, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.

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