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** Two {{Action RPG}}s are based on ''Shadowrun''. In both cases, [[CityOfAdventure the open-ended city]] forces you to explore, think, and proceed without 100% assurance on what to do. (Getting stuck in Redmond long enough to cough up a few hundred [[JapanTakesOverTheWorld Nuyen]] is little better than being stuck [[DownInTheDumps in a literal dump]] long enough to [[LevelGrinding farm the Karma]] needed to beat the drek out of that stupid molotov chuckin' ganger.) Combat isn't complex, but it keeps you involved and doesn't break immersion into the world. And like any good RPG, they dole out rewards and keep the player's power curve increasing at a good pace, so you can feel a little bit of progression addiction. Almost no one played the Sega one until years later via {{UsefulNotes/emulation}}; [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]] ''Shadowrun'' crushed the number of copies sold and rented vs. [[UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Genesis/Mega Drive]] ''Shadowrun''. {{Creator/Sega}} ''Shadowrun'' apparently was a [[NoExportForYou North American-only release]], and whenever you look on eBay, it's often listed as 'Rare' and commands a fair price for a Genesis cart. ''Shadowrun'' for SNES got releases in North America, Japan, and Europe, and there seem to be more hard copies floating around; prices tend to be lower and more copies are CIB. [[AudienceColoringAdaptation More people know and remember the SNES version]], so that's the nostalgia that's going to get mined in future endeavors.

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** Two {{Action RPG}}s are based on ''Shadowrun''. In both cases, [[CityOfAdventure the open-ended city]] forces you to explore, think, and proceed without 100% assurance on what to do. (Getting stuck in Redmond long enough to cough up a few hundred [[JapanTakesOverTheWorld Nuyen]] is little better than being stuck [[DownInTheDumps in a literal dump]] long enough to [[LevelGrinding farm the Karma]] needed to beat the drek out of that stupid molotov chuckin' ganger.) Combat isn't complex, but it keeps you involved and doesn't break immersion into the world. And like any good RPG, they dole out rewards and keep the player's power curve increasing at a good pace, so you can feel a little bit of progression addiction. Almost no one played the Sega one until years later via {{UsefulNotes/emulation}}; [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem {{MediaNotes/emulation}}; [[Platform/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]] ''Shadowrun'' crushed the number of copies sold and rented vs. [[UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis [[Platform/SegaGenesis Genesis/Mega Drive]] ''Shadowrun''. {{Creator/Sega}} ''Shadowrun'' apparently was a [[NoExportForYou North American-only release]], and whenever you look on eBay, it's often listed as 'Rare' and commands a fair price for a Genesis cart. ''Shadowrun'' for SNES got releases in North America, Japan, and Europe, and there seem to be more hard copies floating around; prices tend to be lower and more copies are CIB. [[AudienceColoringAdaptation More people know and remember the SNES version]], so that's the nostalgia that's going to get mined in future endeavors.



* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: ''Shadowrun'' is famous for its extensive and interesting lore blending {{Cyberpunk}} and ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''-esque fantasy. It is also notorious for having a crunchy and complicated rules system that can intimidate new players, badly-organised rulebooks that can make life awkward for a GM, and an Edition War where a lot of experienced players recommend the older, out-of-print rulesets. Therefore, there is an entire cottage industry of completely alternative rulesets for ''Shadowrun'', ranging from the officially licensed (''Shadowrun: Anarchy'') to standalone systems that ''[[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial coincidentally]]'' can support ''Shadowrun'''s exact gameplay mix, like ''Sprawlrunners'' (TabletopGame/SavageWorlds), ''Runners In The Shadows'' (UsefulNotes/ForgedInTheDark) or [=ShadowFate=] (UsefulNotes/{{FUDGE}}).

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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: ''Shadowrun'' is famous for its extensive and interesting lore blending {{Cyberpunk}} and ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''-esque fantasy. It is also notorious for having a crunchy and complicated rules system that can intimidate new players, badly-organised rulebooks that can make life awkward for a GM, and an Edition War where a lot of experienced players recommend the older, out-of-print rulesets. Therefore, there is an entire cottage industry of completely alternative rulesets for ''Shadowrun'', ranging from the officially licensed (''Shadowrun: Anarchy'') to standalone systems that ''[[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial coincidentally]]'' can support ''Shadowrun'''s exact gameplay mix, like ''Sprawlrunners'' (TabletopGame/SavageWorlds), ''Runners In The Shadows'' (UsefulNotes/ForgedInTheDark) (MediaNotes/ForgedInTheDark) or [=ShadowFate=] (UsefulNotes/{{FUDGE}}).(MediaNotes/{{FUDGE}}).
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* TheWikiRule: [[http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The Shadowrun Wiki]].
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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: ''Shadowrun'' is famous for its extensive and interesting lore blending {{Cyberpunk}} and ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''-esque fantasy. It is also notorious for having a crunchy and complicated rules system that can intimidate new players, badly-organised rulebooks that can make life awkward for a GM, and an Edition War where a lot of experienced players recommend the older rulesets. Therefore, there is an entire cottage industry of completely alternative rulesets for ''Shadowrun'', ranging from the officially licensed (''Shadowrun: Anarchy'') to standalone systems that ''coincidentally'' can support ''Shadowrun'''s gameplay mix, like ''Sprawlrunners'' (TabletopGame/SavageWorlds), ''Runners In The Shadows'' (UsefulNotes/ForgedInTheDark) or [=ShadowFate=] (UsefulNotes/{{FUDGE}}).

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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: ''Shadowrun'' is famous for its extensive and interesting lore blending {{Cyberpunk}} and ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''-esque fantasy. It is also notorious for having a crunchy and complicated rules system that can intimidate new players, badly-organised rulebooks that can make life awkward for a GM, and an Edition War where a lot of experienced players recommend the older older, out-of-print rulesets. Therefore, there is an entire cottage industry of completely alternative rulesets for ''Shadowrun'', ranging from the officially licensed (''Shadowrun: Anarchy'') to standalone systems that ''coincidentally'' ''[[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial coincidentally]]'' can support ''Shadowrun'''s exact gameplay mix, like ''Sprawlrunners'' (TabletopGame/SavageWorlds), ''Runners In The Shadows'' (UsefulNotes/ForgedInTheDark) or [=ShadowFate=] (UsefulNotes/{{FUDGE}}).
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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: ''Shadowrun'' is famous for its extensive and interesting lore blending {{Cyberpunk}} and ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''-esque fantasy. It is also notorious for having a crunchy and complicated rules system that can intimidate new players, badly-organised rulebooks that can make life awkward for a GM, and an Edition War where a lot of experienced players recommend the older rulesets. Therefore, there is an entire cottage industry of completely alternative rulesets for ''Shadowrun'', ranging from the officially licensed (''Shadowrun: Anarchy'') to standalone systems that ''coincidentally'' can support ''Shadowrun'''s gameplay mix, like ''Sprawlrunners'' (TabletopGame/SavageWorlds), ''Runners In The Shadows'' (UsefulNotes/ForgedInTheDark) or ShadowFate (UsefulNotes/{{FUDGE}}).

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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: ''Shadowrun'' is famous for its extensive and interesting lore blending {{Cyberpunk}} and ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''-esque fantasy. It is also notorious for having a crunchy and complicated rules system that can intimidate new players, badly-organised rulebooks that can make life awkward for a GM, and an Edition War where a lot of experienced players recommend the older rulesets. Therefore, there is an entire cottage industry of completely alternative rulesets for ''Shadowrun'', ranging from the officially licensed (''Shadowrun: Anarchy'') to standalone systems that ''coincidentally'' can support ''Shadowrun'''s gameplay mix, like ''Sprawlrunners'' (TabletopGame/SavageWorlds), ''Runners In The Shadows'' (UsefulNotes/ForgedInTheDark) or ShadowFate [=ShadowFate=] (UsefulNotes/{{FUDGE}}).
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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: ''Shadowrun'' is famous for its extensive and interesting lore blending {{Cyberpunk}} and ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''-esque fantasy. It is also notorious for having a crunchy and complicated rules system that can intimidate new players, badly-organised rulebooks that can make life awkward for a GM, and an Edition War where a lot of experienced players recommend the older rulesets. Therefore, there is an entire cottage industry of completely alternative rulesets for ''Shadowrun'', ranging from the officially licensed (''Shadowrun: Anarchy'') to standalone systems that ''coincidentally'' can support ''Shadowrun'''s gameplay mix, like ''Sprawlrunners'' (TabletopGame/SavageWorlds), ''Runners In The Shadows'' (TabletopGame/ForgedInTheDark) or ShadowFate (TabletopGame/{{Fate}}).

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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: ''Shadowrun'' is famous for its extensive and interesting lore blending {{Cyberpunk}} and ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''-esque fantasy. It is also notorious for having a crunchy and complicated rules system that can intimidate new players, badly-organised rulebooks that can make life awkward for a GM, and an Edition War where a lot of experienced players recommend the older rulesets. Therefore, there is an entire cottage industry of completely alternative rulesets for ''Shadowrun'', ranging from the officially licensed (''Shadowrun: Anarchy'') to standalone systems that ''coincidentally'' can support ''Shadowrun'''s gameplay mix, like ''Sprawlrunners'' (TabletopGame/SavageWorlds), ''Runners In The Shadows'' (TabletopGame/ForgedInTheDark) (UsefulNotes/ForgedInTheDark) or ShadowFate (TabletopGame/{{Fate}}).(UsefulNotes/{{FUDGE}}).
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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: ''Shadowrun'' is famous for its extensive and interesting lore blending {{Cyberpunk}} and ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''-esque fantasy. It is also notorious for having a crunchy and complicated rules system that can intimidate new players, badly-organised rulebooks that can make life awkward for a GM, and an Edition War where a lot of experienced players recommend the older rulesets. Therefore, there is an entire cottage industry of completely alternative rulesets for ''Shadowrun'', ranging from the officially licensed (''Shadowrun: Anarchy'') to standalone systems that ''coincidentally'' can support ''Shadowrun'''s gameplay mix, like ''Sprawlrunners'' (TabletopGame/SavageWorlds), ''Runners In The Shadows'' (TabletopGame/ForgedInTheDark) or ShadowFate (TabletopGame/{{Fate}}).
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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Updates retconned in advancements in RealLife technology which hadn't been foreseen in previous editions, such as computers going wireless. They did get the increased use of RFID tags right though.

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Updates retconned in advancements in RealLife technology which hadn't been foreseen in previous editions, such as computers going wireless.wireless and the incredible increases in available storage space; the megapulse hasn't been seen in a core book since 3rd edition. They did get the increased use of RFID tags right though.
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Author Existence Failure is specifically when the author's death renders the media unfinished.


* AuthorExistenceFailure: Nigel D. Findley, R.I.P. 1995.
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** The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "it doesn't exist"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elements from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round (as ''Shadowrun'' also had several new CRPG campaigns released in the half-decade leading up to ''Cyberpunk 2077'' along with a fifth edition supplement for the biggest of them and a wholesixth edition intended to capitalize on the love for those titles, and while they weren't nearly as "big-budget" they were put together with obvious love and care and became tentpole success stories for Kickstarter).

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** The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "it doesn't exist"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elements from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round (as ''Shadowrun'' also had several new CRPG campaigns released in the half-decade leading up to ''Cyberpunk 2077'' along with a fifth edition supplement for the biggest of them and a wholesixth whole sixth edition intended to capitalize on the love for those titles, and while they weren't nearly as "big-budget" they were put together with obvious love and care and became tentpole success stories for Kickstarter).

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That's not really running the asylum; you need to make a more concrete argument that those doing the running are doing it specifically for love of an older version of the work.


** The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elemets from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round (as ''Shadowrun'' also had several new CRPG campaigns released in the half-decade leading up to ''Cyberpunk 2077'' along with a sixth edition capitalizing on the love for those titles, and while they weren't nearly as "big-budget" they were put together with obvious love and care and became tentpole success stories for Kickstarter).
** Two {{Action RPG}}s based on ''Shadowrun''. In both cases, [[CityOfAdventure the open-ended city]] forces you to explore, think, and proceed without 100% assurance on what to do. (Getting stuck in Redmond long enough to cough up a few hundred [[JapanTakesOverTheWorld Nuyen]] is little better than being stuck [[DownInTheDumps in a literal dump]] long enough to [[LevelGrinding farm the Karma]] needed to beat the drek out of that stupid molotov chuckin' ganger.) Combat isn't complex, but it keeps you involved and doesn't break immersion into the world. And like any good RPG, they dole out rewards and keep the player's power curve increasing at a good pace, so you can feel a little bit of progression addiction. Almost no one played the Sega one until years later via {{UsefulNotes/emulation}}; [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]] ''Shadowrun'' crushed the number of copies sold and rented vs. [[UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Genesis/Mega Drive]] ''Shadowrun''. {{Creator/Sega}} ''Shadowrun'' apparently was a [[NoExportForYou North American-only release]], and whenever you look on eBay, it's often listed as 'Rare' and commands a fair price for a Genesis cart. ''Shadowrun'' for SNES got releases in North America, Japan, and Europe, and there seem to be more hard copies floating around; prices tend to be lower and more copies are CIB. [[AudienceColoringAdaptation More people know and remember the SNES version]], so that's the nostalgia that's going to get mined in future endeavors.

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** The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It "it doesn't exist,"]] exist"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elemets elements from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round (as ''Shadowrun'' also had several new CRPG campaigns released in the half-decade leading up to ''Cyberpunk 2077'' along with a sixth fifth edition capitalizing supplement for the biggest of them and a wholesixth edition intended to capitalize on the love for those titles, and while they weren't nearly as "big-budget" they were put together with obvious love and care and became tentpole success stories for Kickstarter).
** Two {{Action RPG}}s are based on ''Shadowrun''. In both cases, [[CityOfAdventure the open-ended city]] forces you to explore, think, and proceed without 100% assurance on what to do. (Getting stuck in Redmond long enough to cough up a few hundred [[JapanTakesOverTheWorld Nuyen]] is little better than being stuck [[DownInTheDumps in a literal dump]] long enough to [[LevelGrinding farm the Karma]] needed to beat the drek out of that stupid molotov chuckin' ganger.) Combat isn't complex, but it keeps you involved and doesn't break immersion into the world. And like any good RPG, they dole out rewards and keep the player's power curve increasing at a good pace, so you can feel a little bit of progression addiction. Almost no one played the Sega one until years later via {{UsefulNotes/emulation}}; [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]] ''Shadowrun'' crushed the number of copies sold and rented vs. [[UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Genesis/Mega Drive]] ''Shadowrun''. {{Creator/Sega}} ''Shadowrun'' apparently was a [[NoExportForYou North American-only release]], and whenever you look on eBay, it's often listed as 'Rare' and commands a fair price for a Genesis cart. ''Shadowrun'' for SNES got releases in North America, Japan, and Europe, and there seem to be more hard copies floating around; prices tend to be lower and more copies are CIB. [[AudienceColoringAdaptation More people know and remember the SNES version]], so that's the nostalgia that's going to get mined in future endeavors.



* RunningTheAsylum: The developers have reintroduced some pre-4th edition mechanics (e.g. cyberdecks and priority-based character generation) to the 5th edition.
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** The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elemets from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.

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** The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elemets from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.round (as ''Shadowrun'' also had several new CRPG campaigns released in the half-decade leading up to ''Cyberpunk 2077'' along with a sixth edition capitalizing on the love for those titles, and while they weren't nearly as "big-budget" they were put together with obvious love and care and became tentpole success stories for Kickstarter).
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* PromotedFanboy: Many of the writers of 3rd and 4th edition grew up playing 1st and 2nd edition, such as Adam Jury, Steven "Bull" Ratokovich, Amy "Respec" Veeres, and Bobby "Ancient History" Derie.

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* PromotedFanboy: Many of the current and recent writers played earlier versions of 3rd and 4th edition grew up playing 1st and 2nd edition, the game growing up, such as Adam Jury, Steven "Bull" Ratokovich, Amy "Respec" Veeres, and Bobby "Ancient History" Derie.
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* PromotedFanboy: Many of the writers of 3rd and 4th edition grew up playing 1st and 2nd edition, such as Adam Jury, Steven "Bull" Ratokovich, and Bobby "Ancient History" Derie.

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* PromotedFanboy: Many of the writers of 3rd and 4th edition grew up playing 1st and 2nd edition, such as Adam Jury, Steven "Bull" Ratokovich, Amy "Respec" Veeres, and Bobby "Ancient History" Derie.
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** Two {{Action RPG}}s based on ''Shadowrun''. In both cases, [[CityOfAdventure the open-ended city]] forces you to explore, think, and proceed without 100% assurance on what to do. (Getting stuck in Redmond long enough to cough up a few hundred [[JapanTakesOverTheWorld Nuyen]] is little better than being stuck [[DownInTheDumps in a literal dump]] long enough to [[LevelGrinding farm the Karma]] needed to beat the drek out of that stupid molotov chuckin' ganger.) Combat isn't complex, but it keeps you involved and doesn't break immersion into the world. And like any good RPG, they dole out rewards and keep the player's power curve increasing at a good pace, so you can feel a little bit of progression addiction. Almost no one played the Sega one until years later via {{UsefulNotes/emulation}}; [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]] ''Shadowrun'' crushed the number of copies sold and rented vs. [[UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Genesis/Mega Drive]] ''Shadowrun''. ''Shadowrun'' for Genesis apparently was a North American-only release, and whenever you look on eBay, it's often listed as 'Rare' and commands a fair price for a Genesis cart. ''Shadowrun'' for SNES got releases in North America, Japan, and Europe, and there seem to be more hard copies floating around; prices tend to be lower and more copies are CIB. [[AudienceColoringAdaptation More people know and remember the SNES version]], so that's the nostalgia that's going to get mined in future endeavors.

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** Two {{Action RPG}}s based on ''Shadowrun''. In both cases, [[CityOfAdventure the open-ended city]] forces you to explore, think, and proceed without 100% assurance on what to do. (Getting stuck in Redmond long enough to cough up a few hundred [[JapanTakesOverTheWorld Nuyen]] is little better than being stuck [[DownInTheDumps in a literal dump]] long enough to [[LevelGrinding farm the Karma]] needed to beat the drek out of that stupid molotov chuckin' ganger.) Combat isn't complex, but it keeps you involved and doesn't break immersion into the world. And like any good RPG, they dole out rewards and keep the player's power curve increasing at a good pace, so you can feel a little bit of progression addiction. Almost no one played the Sega one until years later via {{UsefulNotes/emulation}}; [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]] ''Shadowrun'' crushed the number of copies sold and rented vs. [[UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Genesis/Mega Drive]] ''Shadowrun''. ''Shadowrun'' for Genesis {{Creator/Sega}} ''Shadowrun'' apparently was a [[NoExportForYou North American-only release, release]], and whenever you look on eBay, it's often listed as 'Rare' and commands a fair price for a Genesis cart. ''Shadowrun'' for SNES got releases in North America, Japan, and Europe, and there seem to be more hard copies floating around; prices tend to be lower and more copies are CIB. [[AudienceColoringAdaptation More people know and remember the SNES version]], so that's the nostalgia that's going to get mined in future endeavors.
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&*The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elemets from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.

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&*The ** The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elemets from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.

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* DuelingGames: The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elemets from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.

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first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a new edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E and has elemets from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.round.
** Two {{Action RPG}}s based on ''Shadowrun''. In both cases, [[CityOfAdventure the open-ended city]] forces you to explore, think, and proceed without 100% assurance on what to do. (Getting stuck in Redmond long enough to cough up a few hundred [[JapanTakesOverTheWorld Nuyen]] is little better than being stuck [[DownInTheDumps in a literal dump]] long enough to [[LevelGrinding farm the Karma]] needed to beat the drek out of that stupid molotov chuckin' ganger.) Combat isn't complex, but it keeps you involved and doesn't break immersion into the world. And like any good RPG, they dole out rewards and keep the player's power curve increasing at a good pace, so you can feel a little bit of progression addiction. Almost no one played the Sega one until years later via {{UsefulNotes/emulation}}; [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]] ''Shadowrun'' crushed the number of copies sold and rented vs. [[UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Genesis/Mega Drive]] ''Shadowrun''. ''Shadowrun'' for Genesis apparently was a North American-only release, and whenever you look on eBay, it's often listed as 'Rare' and commands a fair price for a Genesis cart. ''Shadowrun'' for SNES got releases in North America, Japan, and Europe, and there seem to be more hard copies floating around; prices tend to be lower and more copies are CIB. [[AudienceColoringAdaptation More people know and remember the SNES version]], so that's the nostalgia that's going to get mined in future endeavors.
###The SNES version is very [[TalkToEveryone dialogue-heavy]] in terms of figuring out what you're supposed to do next by finding {{Keywords|Conversation}}. The mysterious ''[[WakingUpAtTheMorgue You wake up in a morgue]] with [[AmnesiacHero amnesia]]'' plot is an effective hook, but this game is more linear. Mechanically, the SNES version is nothing like the base game. The only similarities are Karma and the names of things (assault cannons, manaballs, etc.) It's a bit of an in-joke how overpowered Jake Armitage is in relation to the wider ''Shadowrun'' world. (This is obliquely addressed in the ''VideoGame/ShadowrunReturns Anthology'' book, and he's [[BagOfSpilling much weaker]] when he reappears as a GuestStarPartyMember.) It's far more accessible for the average player, and it's generally-accepted that the SNES version has the better graphics of the two: You see your character more clearly (isometric versus top down), your ability to shoot and cast spells is more clearly-defined (aim the cursor over the bad guy), and there is a better contrast to the districts in general. (Genesis/Mega Drive is mostly the same palette in each area, sometimes clashing with your character.) It was also likely the first exposure many people had to ''Shadowrun'' as an IP. The Sega version was aimed more at people who were familiar with [[{{TabletopGame/Shadowrun}} the pen-and-paper game]].
###The Sega version is an adapted version of the base rules, even down to the L/M/S/D damage codes (for the most part). Ammo is finite, and spells "drain" you if over-cast. By early-90s standards, it was one of the most [[WideOpenSandbox open world]] games on the market. The Sega version has a balanced, Second Edition feel with its random side-jobs, though they can get repetitive: [[CorporateSamurai sneaking through corporation buildings to open all those safes and steal data to sell]], hoping those contacts were telling the truth about the effectiveness of corp badges and maglock keys. [[{{Cyberspace}} The Matrix sections]] are especially faithful and blow Nintendo's glorified ''[[VideoGame/PipeMania Pipe Dream]]'' implementation out of the water. Like the SNES version, you're almost immediately set upon by hit men and gangers, but this version has a [[ExcusePlot somewhat-disjointed story]] by comparison. There's more grinding involved, since the big-time [[QuestGiver "Johnsons"]] won't waste time talking to some newbie, so you have to put in some time to earn their trust or collect enough Nuyen to buy it. The Sega version's [[GoddamnedBats inescapable combat system]] (even when the only living enemy is clear across the map) probably caused plenty of people to {{ragequit}} (e.g. those random encounters in Puyallup). The other problem is that once you get deep into a playthrough, the progression curve vs. Nuyen reward structure [[FakeLongevity isn't balanced very well]].
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* DuelingGames: The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a (rumored) new edition that disregards the much-maligned 3E, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.

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* DuelingGames: The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day. However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a (rumored) new edition edition, ''Cyberpunk Red'', that disregards the much-maligned 3E, 3E and has elemets from the video-game adaptation, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.

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* DuelingGames: The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day.
** However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a [[VideoGame/CyberPunk2077 big-budget video game adaptation]] with creator involvement, as well as a (rumored) new edition that disregards the much-maligned 3E, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.

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* CreatorsPet: Bull has been accused of this, much to the annoyance of Steven Ratokovich, who actually has little influence on the in-game fiction. Despite his complaints, the writers keep the "Bull" character prominent because writing for him is so much fun.
* DuelingGames: The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day.
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** CreatorsPet: Bull has been accused of this, much to the annoyance of Steven Ratokovich, who actually has little influence on the in-game fiction. Despite his complaints, the writers keep the "Bull" character prominent because writing for him is so much fun.
** RunningTheAsylum: The developers have reintroduced some pre-4th edition mechanics (e.g. cyberdecks and priority-based character generation) to the 5th edition.

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* {{Vaporware}}: ''Equinox'', a proposed SpaceOpera sequel set in the Eighth World.
** ''Equinox'' was eventually released 2014, but due to rights issues is no longer officially connected to ''Shadowrun'' or ''Earthdawn'', and in fact was split into two separate projects, ''Equinox'' & ''Eclipse Phase''. ''Equinox'' does, at least, have a supplement that includes the ''Shadowrun'' playable races.
* TheWikiRule: [[http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The Shadowrun Wiki]].

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World. ''Equinox'' was eventually released 2014, but due to rights issues is no longer officially connected to ''Shadowrun'' or ''Earthdawn'', and in fact was split into two separate projects, ''Equinox'' & ''Eclipse Phase''.''TabletopGame/{{Equinox}}'' and ''TabletopGame/EclipsePhase''. ''Equinox'' does, at least, have a supplement that includes the ''Shadowrun'' playable races.
* TheWikiRule: [[http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The Shadowrun Wiki]].Wiki]].
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* NWordPrivledges: Meta example - the Shadowrun: Germany Sourcebook including Neo-Nazis as would be considered [[AllGermansAreNazi poorly researched, stereotypical, and potentially offensive]] - except it was originally written by German writers and considered worth translating into english.
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* ShrugOfGod: Reading between the lines in the [=JackPoint=] parts of the books seems like this. At one point, the [=JackPointers=] are wondering if an EMP would trigger a cortex bomb or permanently disable it. We never get a clear answer, so it's up to the GM to decide.
* TechnologyMarchesOn: Updates retconned in advancements in RealLife technology which hadn't been foreseen in previous editions, such as computers going wireless. They did get the increased use of RFID tags right though.
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Nigel D. Findley, R.I.P. 1995.
* DuelingGames: The first editions of this game and ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'' were released at about the same time. Sci-fi purists pretty much stuck with ''Cyberpunk'', but there was some degree of crossover appeal between the two. It can be argued that ''Shadowrun'' eventually won out (due to its books being a far more common sight on store shelves, and the near-total consensus of [[FanonDiscontinuity "It doesn't exist,"]] from ''Cyberpunk'' fans regarding that game's Third Edition), but both games enjoy dedicated fanbases to this day.
** However, since ''Cyberpunk'' is getting a big-budget video game adaptation with creator involvement, as well as a (rumored) new edition that disregards the much-maligned 3E, it seems that the duel may be entering a second round.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GPGQoR6f6w A Night's Work]], the original Shadowrun promo from FASA.



** RunningTheAsylum: The developers have reintroduced some pre-4th edition mechanics (e.g. cyberdecks and priority-based character generation) to the 5th edition.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: [[http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/273529-catalyst-game-labs-might-life-support.html At one point, it looked like Catalyst Game Labs was going to lose the license due to an executive embezzling $850,000 from the company.]]. Several authors left the line and books were delayed, but the game itself continues.
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* PromotedFanboy: Many of the writers of 3rd and 4th edition grew up playing 1st and 2nd edition, such as Adam Jury, Steven "Bull" Ratokovich, and Bobby "Ancient History" Derie.
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