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* CreatorBacklash: Screenwriter Creator/PaulSchrader is not as happy with this film as he is with ''Film/TaxiDriver'' and ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'' (among his collaborations with Creator/MartinScorsese). He personally feels that the film's attempt to put on a RedemptionQuest at the end was unconvincing and it gave [=LaMotta=] too much credit as a boxer and sportsman, taking a lot of great talent and hard work to make someone more famous then he merits.

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* CreatorBacklash: Screenwriter Creator/PaulSchrader is not as happy with this film as he is with ''Film/TaxiDriver'' and ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'' (among his collaborations with Creator/MartinScorsese). He personally feels that the film's attempt to put on a RedemptionQuest at the end was unconvincing and it gave [=LaMotta=] too much credit as a boxer and sportsman, taking a lot of great talent and hard work to make someone more famous then than he merits.

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* PlayingAgainstType: Joey [=LaMotta=] is played by Creator/JoePesci. Yes, ''[[HairTriggerTemper that]]'' Joe Pesci. Of course, it was before he was typecast. Pesci still manages to start a fight by breaking a glass over someone's head, and ending it by slamming their head and shoulders repeatedly in a car door. He does apologize after, but only at the insistence of an old mobster. It still counts, because compared to [=DeNiro=], he's really the collected one. It's Jake that has the HairTriggerTemper.

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* OnSetInjury: Creator/RobertDeNiro accidentally broke Creator/JoePesci's rib while assaulting him.
* PlayingAgainstType: Joey [=LaMotta=] is played by Creator/JoePesci. Yes, ''[[HairTriggerTemper that]]'' Joe Pesci. Of course, it was before he was typecast. Pesci still manages to start a fight by breaking a glass over someone's head, and ending it by slamming their head and shoulders repeatedly in a car door. He does apologize after, but only at the insistence of an old mobster. It still counts, because compared to [=DeNiro=], Creator/RobertDeNiro, he's really the collected one. It's Jake that has the HairTriggerTemper.
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** [=De Niro=] cast Creator/JoePesci after seeing him in a low-budget television thriller ''The Death Collector''. For one thing, Pesci had a remarkable resemblance to the real Joey. Prior to being cast, Pesci had not worked in film for four years and was running an Italian restaurant in New Jersey. Frank Vincent, who'd been part of a nightclub comedy team with Pesci, was also in ''The Death Collector'' and got cast as Salvy.

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** [=De Niro=] cast Creator/JoePesci after seeing him in a low-budget television thriller ''The Death Collector''. For one thing, Pesci had a remarkable resemblance to the real Joey. Prior to being cast, Pesci had not worked in film for four years and was running an Italian restaurant in New Jersey. Frank Vincent, Creator/FrankVincent, who'd been part of a nightclub comedy team with Pesci, was also in ''The Death Collector'' and got cast as Salvy.
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** AFIS100Years100Thrills: #51
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*** #1, Sports
* CastTheExpert: [[InvertedTrope Inverted]]. The home movie footage was directed by a random crew member because attempts made to shoot it by Scorsese or cinematographer Michael Chapman ended up looking too professional.
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** Creator/MichellePfeiffer and Creator/SharonStone auditioned for Vikki [=LaMotta=]. Creator/JodieFoster also wanted the role, but she didn't get to audition, as the producers thought she was too young and tomboyish.

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** Creator/BeverlyDAngelo, Creator/MichellePfeiffer and Creator/SharonStone auditioned for Vikki [=LaMotta=]. Creator/JodieFoster also wanted the role, but she didn't get to audition, as the producers thought she was too young and tomboyish.
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** Creator/MichellePfeiffer and Creator/SharonStone auditioned for Vicki [=LaMotta=]. Creator/JodieFoster also wanted the role, but she didn't get to audition, as the producers thought she was too young and tomboyish.

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** Creator/MichellePfeiffer and Creator/SharonStone auditioned for Vicki Vikki [=LaMotta=]. Creator/JodieFoster also wanted the role, but she didn't get to audition, as the producers thought she was too young and tomboyish.
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* SerendipityWritesThePlot: Creator/MartinScorsese stated in a contemporary interview that part of the reason why the film was mostly shot in black and white was because of the publicizing of dye degradation in old Eastmancolor positives that turned the pictures unnaturally pink (due to the yellow and cyan dyes fading out; negatives also had fading problems but to a much smaller and more easily fixable degree). Thus, shooting in black and white would allow the film to be easier to preserve decades later; the home movie sections ''were'' shot in color, but with the more indefatigable reversal stock that was common for home movies at the time (reversal stock would later become standard in the industry following backlash against the Eastmancolor fading issue).
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** Cathy Moriarty playing a fifteen year old version of her character at the beginning (she was 20). Somewhat justified, as she portrays the character from her teens until her late 20's.

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** Cathy Moriarty Creator/CathyMoriarty playing a fifteen year old version of her character at the beginning (she was 20). Somewhat justified, as she portrays the character from her teens until her late 20's.
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* CreatorBacklash: Not Scorsese, but Creator/PaulSchrader is not as happy with this film as he is with ''Film/TaxiDriver'' and ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'' (among his collaborations with Creator/MartinScorsese). He personally feels that the film's attempt to put on a RedemptionQuest at the end was unconvincing and he likewise felt that the film gave [=LaMotta=] too much credit as a boxer and sportsman and that ultimately it amounted to a lot of great talent and hard work making someone more famous then he would merit.

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* CreatorBacklash: Not Scorsese, but Screenwriter Creator/PaulSchrader is not as happy with this film as he is with ''Film/TaxiDriver'' and ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'' (among his collaborations with Creator/MartinScorsese). He personally feels that the film's attempt to put on a RedemptionQuest at the end was unconvincing and he likewise felt that the film it gave [=LaMotta=] too much credit as a boxer and sportsman and that ultimately it amounted to sportsman, taking a lot of great talent and hard work making to make someone more famous then he would merit.merits.
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* ProductionPosse: Scorsese's old NYU film school friend Mardik Martin wrote the first draft of the screenplay, and his frequent collaborator Creator/PaulSchrader did the later drafts. His longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker was also on board. This was the first Creator/RobertDeNiro[=/=]Creator/JoePesci film, and the future Scorsese/De Niro/Pesci films also all featured Frank Vincent (Salvy) in a supporting role.

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* ProductionPosse: Scorsese's old NYU film school friend Mardik Martin wrote the first draft of the screenplay, and his frequent collaborator Creator/PaulSchrader did the later drafts. His longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker was also on board. This was the first Creator/RobertDeNiro[=/=]Creator/JoePesci film, and the future Scorsese/De Niro/Pesci films also all featured Frank Vincent (Salvy) in a supporting role.role up until ''Film/TheIrishman'' (Vincent died shortly before it started filming).
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* ProductionPosse: Scorsese's old NYU film school friend Mardik Martin wrote the first draft of the screenplay, and his longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker was also on board. This was the first Creator/RobertDeNiro[=/=]Creator/JoePesci film, and the future Scorsese/De Niro/Pesci films also all featured Frank Vincent (Salvy) in a supporting role.

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* ProductionPosse: Scorsese's old NYU film school friend Mardik Martin wrote the first draft of the screenplay, and his frequent collaborator Creator/PaulSchrader did the later drafts. His longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker was also on board. This was the first Creator/RobertDeNiro[=/=]Creator/JoePesci film, and the future Scorsese/De Niro/Pesci films also all featured Frank Vincent (Salvy) in a supporting role.
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** Pesci suggested Cathy Moriarty from a picture he once saw at a New Jersey disco. The fact that she looked a lot like Vikki [=LaMotta=] was a major consideration. She was working as a waitress when she got cast, and it was her first film.

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** Pesci suggested Cathy Moriarty from a picture he once saw at a New Jersey disco. The fact that she looked a lot like Vikki [=LaMotta=] was a major consideration.consideration (for proof, see [[https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/american-actress-cathy-moriarty-pictured-with-vikki-lamotta-news-photo/518491553 this pic of Moriarty and [=LaMotta=] together around the time of the film's release]]). She was working as a waitress when she got cast, and it was her first film.

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** [=De Niro=] cast Creator/JoePesci after seeing him in a low-budget television thriller ''The Death Collector''. Prior to being cast, Pesci had not worked in film for four years and was running an Italian restaurant in New Jersey.
** Pesci suggested Cathy Moriarty from a picture he once saw at a New Jersey disco. This was her first film.

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** [=De Niro=] cast Creator/JoePesci after seeing him in a low-budget television thriller ''The Death Collector''. For one thing, Pesci had a remarkable resemblance to the real Joey. Prior to being cast, Pesci had not worked in film for four years and was running an Italian restaurant in New Jersey.
Jersey. Frank Vincent, who'd been part of a nightclub comedy team with Pesci, was also in ''The Death Collector'' and got cast as Salvy.
** Pesci suggested Cathy Moriarty from a picture he once saw at a New Jersey disco. This The fact that she looked a lot like Vikki [=LaMotta=] was a major consideration. She was working as a waitress when she got cast, and it was her first film.


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* ProductionPosse: Scorsese's old NYU film school friend Mardik Martin wrote the first draft of the screenplay, and his longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker was also on board. This was the first Creator/RobertDeNiro[=/=]Creator/JoePesci film, and the future Scorsese/De Niro/Pesci films also all featured Frank Vincent (Salvy) in a supporting role.

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* TheDanza: Creator/JoePesci as Joey [=LaMotta=], though the shared names were just a coincidence.

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** Charlie Scorsese (Martin's dad) as Charlie, the balding bespectacled mobster who shows up in a few scenes.
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* TheDanza: Creator/JoePesci as Joey [=LaMotta=], though the shared names were just a coincidence.
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* DarkhorseCasting: Creator/RobertDeNiro helped Creator/MartinScorsese track down unfamiliar names to play Joey and Vikki.
** [=De Niro=] cast Creator/JoePesci after seeing him in a low-budget television thriller ''The Death Collector''. Prior to being cast, Pesci had not worked in film for four years and was running an Italian restaurant in New Jersey.
** Pesci suggested Cathy Moriarty from a picture he once saw at a New Jersey disco. This was her first film.
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* RealLifeRelative: Creator/MartinScorsese's father is one of the mob wiseguys crowding the LaMotta brothers at a Copa nightclub table.

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* RealLifeRelative: Creator/MartinScorsese's father is one of the mob wiseguys crowding the LaMotta [=LaMotta=] brothers at a Copa nightclub table.
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** When Creator/PaulSchrader was working on the script, he put in numerous shocking moments such as 'Jake LaMotta' (qv) masturbating and dipping his penis into a bucket of ice. Schrader later admitted that the film held less personal significance to him than it did for Creator/RobertDeNiro and Creator/MartinScorsese and he added the shocking material just to see what he could get past the studio. Ultimately, the masturbation was cut and, instead of putting his penis into the ice, La Motta pours the ice down his underwear.

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** When Creator/PaulSchrader was working on the script, he put in numerous shocking moments such as 'Jake LaMotta' (qv) Jake [=LaMotta=] masturbating and dipping his penis into a bucket of ice. Schrader later admitted that the film held less personal significance to him than it did for Creator/RobertDeNiro and Creator/MartinScorsese and he added the shocking material just to see what he could get past the studio. Ultimately, the masturbation was cut and, instead of putting his penis into the ice, La Motta pours the ice down his underwear.

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** Cathy Moriarty playing a fifteen year old version of her character at the beginning (she was 20).
** Somewhat justified, as she portrays the character from her teens until her late 20's.

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** Cathy Moriarty playing a fifteen year old version of her character at the beginning (she was 20).
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* {{Playing Against Type}}: Joey [=LaMotta=] is played by Creator/JoePesci. Yes, ''[[HairTriggerTemper that]]'' Joe Pesci. Of course, it was before he was typecast. Pesci still manages to start a fight by breaking a glass over someone's head, and ending it by slamming their head and shoulders repeatedly in a car door. He does apologize after, but only at the insistence of an old mobster.
** It still counts, though, as compared to [=DeNiro=], he's really the collected one. It's Jake that has the HairTriggerTemper.

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* {{Playing Against Type}}: PlayingAgainstType: Joey [=LaMotta=] is played by Creator/JoePesci. Yes, ''[[HairTriggerTemper that]]'' Joe Pesci. Of course, it was before he was typecast. Pesci still manages to start a fight by breaking a glass over someone's head, and ending it by slamming their head and shoulders repeatedly in a car door. He does apologize after, but only at the insistence of an old mobster.
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mobster. It still counts, though, as because compared to [=DeNiro=], he's really the collected one. It's Jake that has the HairTriggerTemper.
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* DuelingMovies: With ''Film/TheElephantMan'', another DeliberatelyMonochrome biopic involving special physical performance from the lead actor. Both films also competed in Best Actor nomination.

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* CreatorBreakdown: Creator/MartinScorcese was struggling with a cocaine addiction at the time and planning on retiring as a director. Creator/RobertDeNiro specifically brought the project to Scorcese in hopes that its themes of self-destruction would help Scorcese overcome his problems.

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* CreatorBreakdown: Creator/MartinScorcese Creator/MartinScorsese was struggling with a cocaine addiction at the time and planning on retiring as a director. Creator/RobertDeNiro specifically brought the project to Scorcese in hopes that its themes of self-destruction would help Scorcese overcome his problems.



* DoingItForTheArt: For Creator/RobertDeNiro and Creator/MartinScorsese. It took over four years for De Niro to convince everyone, including Scorsese, to get on board for this film.
* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/RobertDeNiro put on 60 pounds to play the retired Jake [=LaMotta=], arguably starting the trend. He also trained with the real Jake [=LaMotta=] to get in shape. They spent the entire shoot together so De Niro could portray his character accurately. La Motta said that De Niro has the ability to be a contender, and that he would have been happy to be his manager and trainer.

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* DoingItForTheArt: For Creator/RobertDeNiro and Creator/MartinScorsese. It took over four years for De Niro to convince everyone, including Scorsese, to get on board for this film.
film. The final draft of the screenplay, after Mardik Martin and Schrader finished most of the early work, was in fact written by an uncredited Scorsese and [=DeNiro=].
* DyeingForYourArt: DyeingForYourArt:
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Creator/RobertDeNiro put on 60 pounds to play the retired Jake [=LaMotta=], arguably starting the trend. He also trained with the real Jake [=LaMotta=] to get in shape. They spent the entire shoot together so De Niro could portray his character accurately. La Motta said that De Niro has the ability to be a contender, and that he would have been happy to be his manager and trainer.trainer.
** Even more remarkable is that for the Older FormerlyFit Jake, rather than put on a fat-suit and resort to camera-tricks, [=DeNiro=] insisted ''that he put on 60 pounds'' to shoot the Epilogue (a mere third of the film). To accommodate this, the film's production had to be divided into two sections divided by an interval of a few months while [=DeNiro=] put on weight. He achieved it by travelling to Europe and eating out in restaurants. After filming ended, [=DeNiro=] exercised and lost the weight he had gained, proving if nothing else, [[TheDeterminator his remarkable personal discipline]].



** When Creator/PaulSchrader was working on the script, he put in numerous shocking moments such as 'Jake LaMotta' (qv) masturbating and dipping his penis into a bucket of ice. Schrader later admitted that the film held less personal significance to him than it did for Creator/RobertDeNiro and Creator/MartinScorseseand he added the shocking material just to see what he could get past the studio. Ultimately, the masturbation was cut and, instead of putting his penis into the ice, La Motta pours the ice down his underwear.

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** When Creator/PaulSchrader was working on the script, he put in numerous shocking moments such as 'Jake LaMotta' (qv) masturbating and dipping his penis into a bucket of ice. Schrader later admitted that the film held less personal significance to him than it did for Creator/RobertDeNiro and Creator/MartinScorseseand Creator/MartinScorsese and he added the shocking material just to see what he could get past the studio. Ultimately, the masturbation was cut and, instead of putting his penis into the ice, La Motta pours the ice down his underwear.

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* CreatorBacklash: Not Scorsese, but Creator/PaulSchrader is not as happy with this film as he is with Film/TaxiDriver and Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist (among his collaborations with Scorsese). He personally feels that the film's attempt to put on a RedemptionQuest at the end was unconvincing and he likewise felt that the film gave [=LaMotta=] too much credit as a boxer and sportsman and that ultimately it amounted to a lot of great talent and hard work making someone more famous then he would merit.
* CreatorBreakdown: Scorcese was struggling with a cocaine addiction at the time and planning on retiring as a director. De Niro specifically brought the project to Scorcese in hopes that its themes of self-destruction would help Scorcese overcome his problems.
* DawsonCasting: Cathy Moriarty playing a fifteen year old version of her character at the begining (she was 20).

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* CreatorBacklash: Not Scorsese, but Creator/PaulSchrader is not as happy with this film as he is with Film/TaxiDriver ''Film/TaxiDriver'' and Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'' (among his collaborations with Scorsese).Creator/MartinScorsese). He personally feels that the film's attempt to put on a RedemptionQuest at the end was unconvincing and he likewise felt that the film gave [=LaMotta=] too much credit as a boxer and sportsman and that ultimately it amounted to a lot of great talent and hard work making someone more famous then he would merit.
* CreatorBreakdown: Scorcese Creator/MartinScorcese was struggling with a cocaine addiction at the time and planning on retiring as a director. De Niro Creator/RobertDeNiro specifically brought the project to Scorcese in hopes that its themes of self-destruction would help Scorcese overcome his problems.
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Cathy Moriarty playing a fifteen year old version of her character at the begining beginning (she was 20).



** There's also the fact that RobertDeNiro was 36 or 37 at the time of filming, and in the early scenes played a 19-year-old Jake [=LaMotta=].
* DyeingForYourArt: Robert De Niro put on 60 pounds to play the retired Jake [=LaMotta=], arguably starting the trend.
* EnforcedMethodActing: Joe Pesci never knew the script called for him to be attacked, so the scene where De Niro beats him up at dinner came ''completely'' out of nowhere.

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** There's also the fact that RobertDeNiro Creator/RobertDeNiro was 36 or 37 at the time of filming, and in the early scenes played a 19-year-old Jake [=LaMotta=].
* DoingItForTheArt: For Creator/RobertDeNiro and Creator/MartinScorsese. It took over four years for De Niro to convince everyone, including Scorsese, to get on board for this film.
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DyeingForYourArt: Robert De Niro Creator/RobertDeNiro put on 60 pounds to play the retired Jake [=LaMotta=], arguably starting the trend.
trend. He also trained with the real Jake [=LaMotta=] to get in shape. They spent the entire shoot together so De Niro could portray his character accurately. La Motta said that De Niro has the ability to be a contender, and that he would have been happy to be his manager and trainer.
* EnforcedMethodActing: Joe Pesci EnforcedMethodActing:
** Creator/JoePesci
never knew the script called for him to be attacked, so the scene where De Niro Creator/RobertDeNiro beats him up at dinner came ''completely'' out of nowhere.nowhere.
** Creator/MartinScorsese didn't think that Pesci's reaction was strong enough, so he asked De Niro to say "Did you fuck your mother?".
* InMemoriam: The film is dedicated to Creator/MartinScorsese's New York University film professor, Haig P. Manoogian.


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* RealLifeRelative: Creator/MartinScorsese's father is one of the mob wiseguys crowding the LaMotta brothers at a Copa nightclub table.
* StarMakingRole: For Creator/JoePesci.
* ThoseTwoActors: This was the first of six films that Creator/RobertDeNiro and Creator/JoePesci made together.
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** Creator/MichellePfeiffer and Creator/SharonStone auditioned for Vicki [=LaMotta=]. Creator/JodieFoster also wanted the role, but she didn't get to audition, as the producers thought she was too young and tomboyish.
** When Creator/PaulSchrader was working on the script, he put in numerous shocking moments such as 'Jake LaMotta' (qv) masturbating and dipping his penis into a bucket of ice. Schrader later admitted that the film held less personal significance to him than it did for Creator/RobertDeNiro and Creator/MartinScorseseand he added the shocking material just to see what he could get past the studio. Ultimately, the masturbation was cut and, instead of putting his penis into the ice, La Motta pours the ice down his underwear.
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* CreatorBacklash: Not Scorsese, but Creator/PaulSchrader is not as happy with this film as he is with Film/TaxiDriver and Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist (among his collaborations with Scorsese). He personally feels that the film's attempt to put on a RedemptionQuest at the end was unconvincing and he likewise felt that the film gave [=LaMotta=] too much credit as a boxer and sportsman and that ultimately it amounted to a lot of great talent and hard work making someone more famous then he would merit.
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* AFIS100YearsSeries:
** AFIS100Years100Movies: #24
** AFIS100Years100Thrills: #51
** AFIS100Years100Movies10THAnniversaryEdition: #4
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*** #1, Sports
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* {{Playing Against Type}}: Joey [=LaMotta=] is played by JoePesci. Yes, ''[[HairTriggerTemper that]]'' Joe Pesci. Of course, it was before he was typecast. Pesci still manages to start a fight by breaking a glass over someone's head, and ending it by slamming their head and shoulders repeatedly in a car door. He does apologize after, but only at the insistence of an old mobster.

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* {{Playing Against Type}}: Joey [=LaMotta=] is played by JoePesci.Creator/JoePesci. Yes, ''[[HairTriggerTemper that]]'' Joe Pesci. Of course, it was before he was typecast. Pesci still manages to start a fight by breaking a glass over someone's head, and ending it by slamming their head and shoulders repeatedly in a car door. He does apologize after, but only at the insistence of an old mobster.
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* CastTheExpert: [[InvertedTrope Inverted]]. The home movie footage was directed by a random crew member because attempts made to shoot it by Scorsese or cinematographer Michael Chapman ended up looking too professional.


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* DawsonCasting: Cathy Moriarty playing a fifteen year old version of her character at the begining (she was 20).
** Somewhat justified, as she portrays the character from her teens until her late 20's.
** There's also the fact that RobertDeNiro was 36 or 37 at the time of filming, and in the early scenes played a 19-year-old Jake [=LaMotta=].


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* EnforcedMethodActing: Joe Pesci never knew the script called for him to be attacked, so the scene where De Niro beats him up at dinner came ''completely'' out of nowhere.
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** It still counts though as compared to [=DeNiro=], he's really the collected one. It's Jake that has the HairTriggerTemper.

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* CreatorBreakdown: This was apparently a vaguely personal project of MartinScorsese.

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* CreatorBreakdown: This was apparently a vaguely personal project of MartinScorsese.
* DyeingForYourArt: Robert De Niro put on 60 pounds to play the retired Jake [=LaMotta=], arguably starting the trend.
* {{Playing Against Type}}: Joey [=LaMotta=] is played by JoePesci. Yes, ''[[HairTriggerTemper that]]'' Joe Pesci. Of course, it was before he was typecast. Pesci still manages to start a fight by breaking a glass over someone's head, and ending it by slamming their head and shoulders repeatedly in a car door. He does apologize after, but only at the insistence of an old mobster.
** It still counts though as compared to [=DeNiro=], he's really the collected one. It's Jake that has the HairTriggerTemper.

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