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* HeAlsoDid: Among the performers who played the Artful Dodger in the original West End production were Creator/TonyRobinson, [[Film/RomeoAndJuliet1968 Leonard Whiting]], Music/PhilCollins, [[Music/TheSmallFaces Steve Marriott]] and [[Music/TheMonkees Davy Jones]], who stayed on in the role when the production moved to Broadway.


** Creator/BruceForsyth, Creator/PeterOToole, Creator/LaurenceOlivier, Creator/PeterSellers and Creator/DickVanDyke were candidates for Fagin.

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** Creator/BruceForsyth, Creator/LaurenceHarvey, Creator/PeterOToole, Creator/LaurenceOlivier, Creator/PeterSellers and Creator/DickVanDyke were candidates for Fagin.


* ActorInspiredElement: When Nancy asks Bill if he loves her and Bill says, "Of course I do, I live with you, don't I?" Creator/OliverReed came up with this - he was walking through a very tough neighborhood one day and heard a woman saying, "Don't you love me" and a man saying, "Of course I do, I fucks you, don't I" Reed wanted to use it in the movie, but director Carol Reed wouldn't let him, so they used it, but changed it to "live with".

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* ActorInspiredElement: When Nancy asks Bill if he loves her and Bill says, "Of course I do, I live with you, don't I?" Creator/OliverReed came up with this - he was walking through a very tough neighborhood one day and heard a woman saying, "Don't you love me" and a man saying, "Of course I do, I fucks you, don't I" Reed wanted to use it in the movie, but director Carol Reed Creator/CarolReed wouldn't let him, so they used it, but changed it to "live with".


** Early drafts had a reprise of "Consider Yourself" which would have been sung by Charley Bates after Dodger is arrested in the stage version, but it was scrapped.

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** Early drafts had a reprise of "Consider Yourself" which would have been sung by Charley Bates after Dodger is arrested in the stage version, but it was scrapped.


** Early drafts had a reprise of ‘Consider Yourself’ which would have been sung by Charley Bates after Dodger is arrested in the stage version, but it was scrapped.

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** Early drafts had a reprise of ‘Consider Yourself’ "Consider Yourself" which would have been sung by Charley Bates after Dodger is arrested in the stage version, but it was scrapped. scrapped.

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** Creator/LewisGilbert was considered to direct.


** Creator/JulieAndrews and Creator/ElizabethTaylor were considered for Nancy.
** There were talks of a remake in 2013, but nothing materialised. Supposedly Samantha Barks was to reprise her role as Nancy from the 2011-2013 UK tour.

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** Carol Reed originally wanted to cast Music/ShirleyBassey for Nancy, but the studio felt that the public wasn't ready for a black Nancy. Creator/JulieAndrews and Creator/ElizabethTaylor were considered for Nancy.
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** There were talks of a remake in 2013, but nothing materialised. Supposedly Samantha Barks was to reprise her role as Nancy from the 2011-2013 UK tour.tour.
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** Early drafts of the musical included Rose Maylie from the novel. Even early on, they noted how limiting her character was, and the only song she appeared to have to herself was a reprise of "Where Is Love?" - so she was dropped from the story. Toby Crackit and Magistrate Fang were also going to be included but were cut, though Fang turns up in the 1968 film.

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** Early drafts of the musical included Rose Maylie from the novel. Even early on, they noted how limiting her character was, and the only song she appeared to have to herself was a reprise of "Where Is Love?" - so she was dropped from the story. Toby Crackit Crackit, Charley Bates and Magistrate Fang were also going to be included but were cut, though Fang turns up in the 1968 film.




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** Early drafts had a reprise of ‘Consider Yourself’ which would have been sung by Charley Bates after Dodger is arrested in the stage version, but it was scrapped.


* RetroactiveRecognition: One of Dodger's understudies in the original cast was Creator/TonyRobinson


** Early drafts of the musical included Rose Maylie from the novel. Even early on, they noted how limiting her character was, and the only song she appeared to have to herself was a reprise of "Where Is Love?" - so she was dropped from the story. Toby Crackit and Magistrate Fang were also going to be included but were cut.

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** Early drafts of the musical included Rose Maylie from the novel. Even early on, they noted how limiting her character was, and the only song she appeared to have to herself was a reprise of "Where Is Love?" - so she was dropped from the story. Toby Crackit and Magistrate Fang were also going to be included but were cut.cut, though Fang turns up in the 1968 film.

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* BreakawayPopHit: "Consider Yourself", originally written for this musical, is now considered a music standard and has appeared on many non-Broadway-related [=CDs=], especially those containing children's music.



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** Early drafts of the musical included Rose Maylie from the novel. Even early on, they noted how limiting her character was, and the only song she appeared to have to herself was a reprise of "Where Is Love?" - so she was dropped from the story. Toby Crackit and Magistrate Fang were also going to be included but were cut.
** There were also plans to give a slightly larger role to Nancy's friend Bet. Oliver would develop a PrecociousCrush on her and copy Dodger to impress her. The notes also say that Bet would be adopted by Mr Brownlow at the end, with the implications of her and Oliver marrying in the future.
** Noah Claypole, Charlotte and the Bumbles had larger parts in the early drafts.



** Creator/JulieAndrews and Creator/ElizabethTaylor were considered for Nancy.

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** Creator/JulieAndrews and Creator/ElizabethTaylor were considered for Nancy.Nancy.
** There were talks of a remake in 2013, but nothing materialised. Supposedly Samantha Barks was to reprise her role as Nancy from the 2011-2013 UK tour.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: One of Dodger's understudies in the original cast was Creator/TonyRobinson


** Creator/BruceForsyth, Creator/PeterOToole, Creator/PeterSellers and Creator/DickVanDyke were candidates for Fagin.

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** Creator/BruceForsyth, Creator/PeterOToole, Creator/LaurenceOlivier, Creator/PeterSellers and Creator/DickVanDyke were candidates for Fagin.


* ActorAllusion: At one point in the 2012 production, Fagin (played by Neil Morrissey) says "[[WesternAnimation/BobTheBuilder Can we fix it?]]" while playing around with his treasure.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/MichaelCaine auditioned for the part of Bill Sikes in the original show.

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Creator/MichaelCaine auditioned for the part of Bill Sikes in the original show.
** Creator/SidJames was offered the part of Fagin, but turned it down as he wanted to avoid being typecast as criminal types.

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