History Trivia / HalloweenII2009

* OldShame:
** Creator/DanielleHarris [[https://youtu.be/A3M_70R2b-0?t=433 isn't a fan of the film]]. Although she liked the scenes she shot with Creator/BradDourif, she thinks the film was too busy and disorganized for its own good.
** Music/RobZombie himself wasn't too satisfied with the film either, largely because he didn't want to make it in the first place and had to endure frequent ExecutiveMeddling that resulted in the film's plot becoming disjointed and badly paced. Zombie has better feelings for the Director's Cut, however, which is more consistent and overall closer to his vision of the film.

* OneForTheMoneyOneForTheArt: Music/RobZombie originally stated he would never do a sequel to ''Film/Halloween2007'', until the studio decided to make it with or without him. Then he signed on to write and direct, because he didn't want someone to ruin his vision. He also agreed to make the film in exchange for being allowed to make ''Film/TheLordsOfSalem''.

* OneForTheMoneyOneForTheArt: Music/RobZombie originally stated he would never do a sequel to ''Film/Halloween2007'', until the studio decided to make it. Then he signed on to write and direct, because he didn't want someone to ruin his vision. He also agreed to make the film in exchange for being allowed to make ''Film/TheLordsOfSalem''.

* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: Music/RobZombie went out of his way to make it nearly impossible to continue this iteration of the franchise, [[spoiler:having both Loomis and Michael killed, and Laurie either committed to an asylum or dead, depending on the cut.]]

* SparedByTheCut: Laurie is institutionalized after her SanitySlippage in the theatrical version, while in the director's cut, she's shot and killed.
* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: Music/RobZombie went out of his way to make it nearly impossible to continue this iteration of the franchise, having both Loomis and Michael killed, and Laurie either committed to an asylum or dead, depending on the cut.

** Now that the home video rights to the movie have reverted from Sony to Lionsgate, the film is out-of-print on Blu-ray as a whole. Lionsgate reissued only the theatrical cut on a barenones DVD in 2021, and this is the only cut available to rent digitally.

** Now that the home video rights to the movie have reverted from Sony to Lionsgate, the film is out-of-print on Blu-ray as a whole. Lionsgate reissued only the theatrical cut on a barenones DVD in 2021.

* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Only the director's cut is available on Sony's US Blu-ray. For those that do prefer the drastically different theatrical cut (or completists), the only way to own it on Blu-ray is to track down Alliance Atlantis' Canadian double feature of this film and Rob Zombie's first ''Halloween''. Conveniently, it is also the only way to get the theatrical version of ''that'' film on Blu-ray (though its own director's cut has the same ending but some scene differences). Anchor Bay's 15-disc boxset of the franchise produced with Scream Factory also includes only the director's cut, despite alternate cuts being included for other films.

* AuthorAppeal: Rob Zombie is vegan. Laurie has become vegetarian in this film due to her traumatic experiences in the first film, and she comments about how Sherriff Brackett needs to cut down on the animal products. Cue footage of Brackett eating a meat-topped pizza like a caveman intercut with footage of Michael eating a dog he just killed. It's incredibly nauseating and very effective.

* AuthorAppeal: Rob Zombie is vegan, and in this film, due to her traumatic experiences in the first film, Laurie has become vegetarian and comments about how Sherriff Brackett needs to cut down on the animal products. Cue footage of Brackett eating a meat-topped pizza like a cartoonish caveman intercut with footage of Michael eating a dog he just killed. It's incredibly nauseating and very effective.

* AuthorAppeal: Rob Zombie is vegan, and in this film, due to her traumatic experiences in the first film, Laurie has become vegetarian and comments about how Sherriff Brackett needs to cut down on the animal products.

* SparedByTheCut: Laurie is institutionalized after her SanitySlippage in the theatrical version, while in the alternate cut, she is shot.
* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: Music/RobZombie went out of his way to make it nearly impossible to continue this iteration of the franchise: having both Loomis and Michael killed, and Laurie either committed to an asylum or dead, depending on the cut.

** The film ran into difficulties with securing Creator/MalcolmMcDowell to reprise his role of Dr. Loomis. His deal to return wasn't finalized until filming was well under way, and most of his scenes were rewritten and shot in a single day at a hotel. Daeg Faerch was also supposed to reprise his role of young Michael Myers, but it was obvious when he got to set that he had outgrown the role, so Chase Wright Vanek was brought in as a last minute recast. The studio also vehemently disagreed with Zombie's choice to cast Mary Birdsong as Loomis' assistant, feeling that the role should've gone to a better-known actress, despite the character being a small role. She was ultimately cast and flown in hours before filming her scenes.
** Making everything worse was the winter weather in Atlanta, which was so rainy, the crew had to bring in rain machines to keep it consistent. At least one outdoor set was washed away by the rain, and one day a blizzard came through Georgia, forcing the crew to accommodate the foot of snow on the ground. The sequence of Laurie running outside the hospital was especially challenging for Scout-Taylor Compton, who was wearing little more than a hospital gown in the freezing rain, while Tyler Mane was wearing a wetsuit.

** The film was panned by critics and polarized fans of the series. Some praised Zombie's ambition and fresh take on the franchise. Others found the film to be pretentious, excessively violent, nihilistic, and all around confusing, as well as too much of a departure for the franchise. The film disappointed at the box office, grossing only $33 million in the US and $39 million worldwide (on a $15 million budget). Fortunately, Zombie was able to finish a director's cut for the DVD and Blu-ray release, which was considerably better received for its improved character development, more coherent story, and more impactful ending, and it has amassed a cult following.[[note]]Zombie has ultimately disowned the theatrical cut, and it's [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes increasingly difficult to find]].[[/note]] However, Zombie was denied permission to include his four hour documentary on the film's production (a staple of his films, including his first ''Halloween'') because it reflected negatively of The Weinstein Company. While a sequel was greenlit a few years later, Zombie once again refused to return, and it ultimately fell into DevelopmentHell. The Weinstein Company lost the rights to the franchise in 2015 because it took too long to put a new film into production. Blumhouse ended up taking over, and produced [[Film/{{Halloween2018}} a direct sequel to the orignal film in 2018]].

* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Only the director's cut is available on Sony's US Blu-ray. For those that do prefer the drastically different theatrical cut (or completists), the only way to own it on Blu-ray is to track down Alliance Atlantis' Canadian double feature of this film and Rob Zombie's first ''Halloween''. Conveniently, it is also the only way to get the theatrical version of ''that'' film on Blu-ray (though its own director's cut has only small differences). Anchor Bay's 15-disc boxset of the franchise produced with Scream Factory also includes only the director's cut, despite alternate cuts being included for other films.

* YouLookFamiliar: The actor who gets stomped to death behind the strip club later turns up as the green-faced host of the big Halloween party.

** [[https://youtu.be/A3M_70R2b-0?t=433 Danielle Harris isn't a fan of the film]]. Although she liked the scenes she shot with Creator/BradDourif, she thinks the film was too busy and disorganized for its own good.
** Director Music/RobZombie himself wasn't too satisfied with the film either, largely because he didn't want to make it in the first place and had to endure frequent ExecutiveMeddling that resulted in the film's plot becoming disjointed and badly paced. Zombie has better feelings for the Director's Cut, however, which is more consistent and overall closer to his vision of the film.
* OneForTheMoneyOneForTheArt: Rob Zombie originally stated he would never do a sequel to ''Film/Halloween2007'', until the studio decided to make it. Then he signed on to write and direct, because he didn't want someone to ruin his vision. He also agreed to make the film in exchange for being allowed to make ''Film/TheLordsOfSalem''.

* TorchTheFranchiseAndRun: Zombie went out of his way to make it nearly impossible to continue this iteration of the franchise: having both Loomis and Michael killed, and Laurie either committed to an asylum or dead, depending on the cut.

* OldShame: [[https://youtu.be/A3M_70R2b-0?t=433 Danielle Harris isn't a fan of the film]]. Although she liked the scenes she shot with Creator/BradDourif, she thinks the film was too busy and disorganized for its own good.
* OneForTheMoneyOneForTheArt: Music/RobZombie originally stated he would never do a sequel to ''Film/Halloween2007'', until the studio decided to make it. Then he signed on to write and direct, because he didn't want someone to ruin his vision. He also agreed to make the film in exchange for being allowed to make ''Film/TheLordsOfSalem''.

** The film ran into difficulties with securing Creator/MalcolmMcDowell to reprise his role of Dr. Loomis. His deal to return wasn't finalized until filming was well under way, and most of his scenes were rewritten and shot in a single day at a hotel. Daeg Faerch was also supposed to reprise his role of young Michael Myers, but it was obvious when he got to set that he had outgrown the role, so Chase Wright Vanek was brought in as a last minute recast. The studio also vehemently disagreed with Zombie's choice to cast Mary Birdsong as Loomis' assistant, despite the character being a small role. She was ultimately cast and flown in hours before filming her scenes.
** Making everything worse was the winter weather in Atlanta, which was so rainy, the crew had to bring in rain machines to keep it consistent. At least one outdoor set was washed away by the rain, and one day a blizzard came through Georgia, forcing the crew to accomidate the foot of snow on the ground. The sequence of Laurie running outside the hospital was especially challenging for Scout-Taylor Compton, who was wearing little more than a hospital gown in the freezing rain while everyone else was wearing wetsuits.

** The film was panned by critics and polarized fans of the series. Some praised Zombie's ambition and fresh take on the franchise. Others found the film to be pretentious, excessively violent, nihilistic, and all around confusing, as well as too much of a departure for the franchise. The film disappointed at the box office, grossing only $33 million in the US and $39 million worldwide (on a $15 million budget). Fortunately, Zombie was able to finish a director's cut for the DVD and Blu-ray release, which was considerably better received for its improved character development and more coherent story, and has amassed a cult following.[[note]]Zombie has ultimately disowned the theatrical cut, and it's [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes increasingly difficult to find]].[[/note]] However, Zombie was denied permission to include his four hour documentary on the film's production (a staple of his films, including his first ''Halloween'') because it reflected negatively of The Weinstein Company. While a sequel was greenlit a few years later, Zombie once again refused to return, and it ultimately fell into DevelopmentHell. The Weinstein Company lost the rights to the franchise in 2015 because it took too long to put a new film into production. Blumhouse ended up taking over, and produced [[Film/{{Halloween2018}} a direct sequel to the orignal film in 2018]].

* TheOtherDarrin: Chase Vanek replaces Daeg Faerch as young Michael Myers as Faerch had grown too old for the part.

** Which itself becomes funny when Bill Moseley, the original actor, dropped out from playing the role. The reason why it's funny is because he had a victim role in the reshot scenes of the 2007 remake, appearing in the theatrical cut of the film.

** Which itself becomes funny when Bill Moseley, the original actor, dropped out from playing the role. The reason why its funny is because he had a victim role in the reshot scenes of the 2007 remake, appearing in the theatrical cut of the film.

** Which itself becomes funny when Bill Moseley, the original actor, dropped out from playing the role. The reason why its funny is because he had a victim role in the reshot scenes of the 2007 remake, appearing in the theatrical cut of the film.