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** Season 5 eventually ends up more or less adapting ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', featuring a Bane who needs a breathing mask to live acting as TheDragon to [[spoiler: Ra's al Ghul's secret daughter]] who is out to destroy Gotham and get revenge on Bruce for [[spoiler: killing her father.]]

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** Season 5 eventually ends up more or less adapting ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', featuring a Bane who needs a breathing mask to live acting as TheDragon to [[spoiler: Ra's al Ghul's secret daughter]] who is out to destroy Gotham and get revenge on Bruce for [[spoiler: killing her father.]] ]] Both involve adaptations of the ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'' story arc.
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* RoleReprisal: Creator/PaulReubens plays the Penguin's father in Season 2, a role that he had previously played in Tim Burton's ''Film/BatmanReturns''.
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** Creator/MarkHamill has praised Cameron Monaghan's portrayal of Jerome as a possible Joker candidate.

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** Creator/MarkHamill has praised Cameron Monaghan's portrayal of Jerome as a possible Joker [[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]] candidate.

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** The head of the Court of Owls drop the name "The Demon's Head," it isn't ''like'' the League's scheme, it ''is'' the League's scheme!

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** *** The head of the Court of Owls drop the name "The Demon's Head," it isn't ''like'' the League's scheme, it ''is'' the League's scheme!scheme!
** Season 5 eventually ends up more or less adapting ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', featuring a Bane who needs a breathing mask to live acting as TheDragon to [[spoiler: Ra's al Ghul's secret daughter]] who is out to destroy Gotham and get revenge on Bruce for [[spoiler: killing her father.]]
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** [[Series/{{Fringe}} Michael Cerveris]] auditioned for the role of Alfred Pennyworth before [[Series/{{Gotham}} Sean Pertwee]]. Cerveris would eventually appear in the fourth season as Professor Pyg.

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** [[Series/{{Fringe}} Michael Cerveris]] auditioned for the role of Alfred Pennyworth before [[Series/{{Gotham}} Sean Pertwee]].Pertwee]] was cast. Cerveris would eventually appear in the fourth season as Professor Pyg.
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** Back in the early 2000s, a planned series called ''Bruce Wayne'' was being considered with a very similar premise to ''Gotham''. [[Film/XMenFilmSeries Shawn Ashmore]] was the first choice to play the 18-year-old Bruce Wayne. It was soon shelved and replaced with Superman characters instead, becoming the show ''Series/{{Smallville}}''.

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** Back in the early 2000s, a planned series called ''Bruce Wayne'' was being considered with a very similar premise to ''Gotham''. [[Film/XMenFilmSeries Shawn Ashmore]] was the first choice to play the 18-year-old Bruce Wayne. It was soon shelved and replaced with Superman Comicbook/{{Superman}} characters instead, becoming the show ''Series/{{Smallville}}''.
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** Creator/JessePlemons was considered for the role of Oswald Cobblepot.
** Michael Cerveris auditioned for the role of Alfred Pennyworth. He'd eventually appear in Season 4 as the villain Professor Pyg.
** Back in the early 2000s, a planned series called ''Bruce Wayne'' was being considered with a very similar premise to ''Gotham''. Shawn Ashmore who played Iceman in ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'' was the first choice to play the 18-year-old Bruce Wayne. It was soon shelved and replaced with Superman characters instead, becoming the show ''Series/{{Smallville}}''.

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** Creator/JessePlemons was considered for the role part of [[Comicbook/ThePenguin Oswald Cobblepot.
Cobblepot]] before the casting of [[Series/{{Gotham}} Robin Lord Taylor]].
** [[Series/{{Fringe}} Michael Cerveris Cerveris]] auditioned for the role of Alfred Pennyworth. He'd Pennyworth before [[Series/{{Gotham}} Sean Pertwee]]. Cerveris would eventually appear in Season 4 as the villain fourth season as Professor Pyg.
** Back in the early 2000s, a planned series called ''Bruce Wayne'' was being considered with a very similar premise to ''Gotham''. [[Film/XMenFilmSeries Shawn Ashmore who played Iceman in ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'' Ashmore]] was the first choice to play the 18-year-old Bruce Wayne. It was soon shelved and replaced with Superman characters instead, becoming the show ''Series/{{Smallville}}''.



** The ending of season four [[https://i.redd.it/824u8rbg5jy01.png was supposed to tease]] [[spoiler: Lady Shiva]], but the scene didn't make it to the final cut.

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** The ending of season four [[https://i.redd.it/824u8rbg5jy01.png was supposed to tease]] [[spoiler: Lady Shiva]], ComicBook/LadyShiva]], but the scene didn't make it to the final cut.

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* WrittenByCastMember:
** Ben [=McKenzie=] wrote the Season 4 episode "The Demon's Head".
** [=McKenzie=] wrote the last produced episode of Gotham, season 5's "The Trial of Jim Gordon".

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WrittenByCastMember: Ben [=McKenzie=] wrote the Season 4 episode "The Demon's Head".
** [=McKenzie=] wrote the last produced episode of Gotham,
Head" and season 5's "The Trial of Jim Gordon".

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* DirectedByCastMember: Creator/BenMcKenzie who plays Gordon directed the season 3 episode "These Delicate and Dark Obsessions" and the season 4 episode "One of My Three Soups".

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Creator/BenMcKenzie who plays Gordon directed the season 3 episode "These Delicate and Dark Obsessions" and Obsessions", the season 4 episode "One of My Three Soups".Soups", and the season 5 episode "13 Stitches".
** Erin Richards who plays Barbara Kean directed season 5's "The Trial of Jim Gordon".



%%** Mr. Penn would have become Gotham's version of the Ventriloquist. In a bit of irony, Mr. Penn's actor just so happens to be a ventriloquist himself.
* WrittenByCastMember: Ben [=McKenzie=] wrote the Season 4 episode "The Demon's Head".

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%%** Mr. Penn would have become Gotham's version of the Ventriloquist. In a bit of irony, Mr. Penn's actor just so happens to be a ventriloquist himself.
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Ben [=McKenzie=] wrote the Season 4 episode "The Demon's Head".Head".
** [=McKenzie=] wrote the last produced episode of Gotham, season 5's "The Trial of Jim Gordon".
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* TheCastShowoff: Andrew Sellon is an actual ventriloquist so his scenes with the Mr. Scarface dummy had him operating and voicing it on set.
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** Michael Cerveris auditioned for the role of Alfred Pennyworth. He'd eventually appear in Season 4 as the villain Professor Pyg.
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commenting this out for the time being since stills of a future episode seem to show him coming back, so maybe it's just best to leave this trope in general alone until the season finishes


** Mr. Penn would have become Gotham's version of the Ventriloquist. In a bit of irony, Mr. Penn's actor just so happens to be a ventriloquist himself.

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** %%** Mr. Penn would have become Gotham's version of the Ventriloquist. In a bit of irony, Mr. Penn's actor just so happens to be a ventriloquist himself.
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I know about mr penn originally be ventriloquist he specicially that was said cause of episodes reduction count? he also said tabitha wasnt supposte to be killed and would becoem tigress?


** Had season five gotten its full 22 episodes not only would Tabitha have become Tigress, Mr. Penn would have become Gotham's version of the Ventriloquist. In a bit of irony, Mr. Penn's actor just so happens to be a ventriloquist himself.

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** Had season five gotten its full 22 episodes not only would Tabitha have become Tigress, ** Mr. Penn would have become Gotham's version of the Ventriloquist. In a bit of irony, Mr. Penn's actor just so happens to be a ventriloquist himself.
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** Had season five gotten its full 22 episodes not only would Tabitha have become Tigress, Mr. Penn would have become Gotham's version of the Ventriloquist. In a bit of irony, Mr. Penn's actor just so happens to be a ventriloquist himself.
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can anyone verify that info before added back to trivia know of oriignal plans for the ventriloquist but dont see anything on concept for eco tabitha become tigress or plans being changed reguarding number of episodes and seasons changed from 7 to 5


** Had season five gotten its full 22 episodes not only would Tabitha have become Tigress, Mr. Penn would have become Gotham's version of the Ventriloquist. In a bit of irony, Mr. Penn's actor just so happens to be a ventriloquist himself.
** Ecco was originally going to be a version of Echo, the Russian assassin from ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand''. The idea was dropped when it was decided that she would be portrayed with an American accent instead of a Russian one, and she would eventually become a version of Harley Quinn instead.
** The show as a whole. It was originally planned for 7 seasons but declining ratings caused it to be canceled after 5, with the final season only getting 12 episodes instead of 22.
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** The show as a whole. It was originally planned for 7 seasons but declining ratings caused it to be canceled after 5, with the final season only getting 12 episodes instead of 22.
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** Ecco was originally going to be a version of Echo, the Russian assassin from ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand''. The idea was dropped when it was decided that she would be portrayed with an American accent instead of a Russian one, and she would eventually become a version of Harley Quinn instead.
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** Had season five gotten its full 22 episodes not only would Tabitha have become Tigress, Mr. Penn would have become Gotham's version of the Ventriloquist. In a bit of irony, Mr. Penn's actor just so happens to be a ventriloquist himself.
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* DawsonCasting: From Season 3 on, 14-year-old Ivy Pepper is played by 28-year-old Maggie Geha. Slightly justified, as her body will be aged to that of a 19-year-old.

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* DawsonCasting: From Season 3 on, 14-year-old Ivy Pepper is played by 28-year-old Maggie Geha. Slightly justified, as her body will be was aged to that of a 19-year-old.
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: In the season 4 finale, the skyline shot behind Bruce, [[spoiler:Ra's al Ghul, and Jeremiah]] shows regular nighttime traffic, not the bumper-to-bumper evacuation traffic described in the script.
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not trivia


* CastingGag:
** Oswald's father is played by Creator/PaulReubens, who also played the Penguin's father in ''Film/BatmanReturns''--though [[GoodParents Elijah]] is a far cry from [[AbusiveParents Tucker]] [[ParentalAbandonment Cobblepot]].
** Dwight Pollard is played by Creator/DavidDastmalchian, who previously played one of Joker's {{mooks}} in ''The Dark Knight''.
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* DyeingForYourArt: Robin Lord Taylor is a natural blond and dyes his hair black to play Penguin.

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* DyeingForYourArt: Robin Lord Taylor is a natural blond and dyes his hair black to play Penguin. When filming of the final season wrapped, he completely shaved his head to regain his natural hair color faster.
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** In Season 3, Clare Foley (Ivy Pepper) is replaced by the much older Maggie Geha. In this case, the recasting (along with the sudden boost in age) is explained InUniverse: [[spoiler:after encountering a monster from Indian Hill, Ivy is reborn into a much older form]]. She's recasted again in Season 4, where she's played by ''Series/TheFlash'''s Peyton List (this is explained to be the next evolution of Ivy after she swallows the mutagenic potions in "The Fear Reaper").

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** In Season 3, Clare Foley (Ivy Pepper) is replaced by the much older Maggie Geha. In this case, the recasting (along with the sudden boost in age) is explained InUniverse: [[spoiler:after encountering a monster from Indian Hill, Ivy is reborn into a much older form]]. She's recasted again in Season 4, where she's played by ''Series/TheFlash'''s Peyton List (this is explained to be the next evolution of Ivy after she swallows the mutagenic potions in "The Fear Reaper").
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* OneOfUs: David Mazouz is a self-proclaimed comics nerd and [[http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/12/19/david-mazouz-gotham-arrowverse-crossover-idea/ has voiced his desire]] to have a crossover with the Series/{{Arrowverse}}. He has also stated that he wants a young [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Clark Kent]] to appear on the show and is also a fan of the Nygmobblepot pairing.
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* MeanCharacterNiceActor:
** Robin Lord Taylor as Oswald Cobblepot/Penguin. While Penguin is an AxCrazy, conniving, ChessMaster with a shit-eating grin, Taylor is a down-to-Earth, friendly guy.
** Jervis Tetch is a sociopathic, incestuous creep with a complete lack of empathy for anyone other than himself or his sister. Benedict Samuel is very laid-back and, of course, ''nothing'' like his character.
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* DirectedByCastMember: Creator/BenMcKenzie who plays Gordon directed the season 3 episode "These Delicate and Dark Obsessions".

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* DirectedByCastMember: Creator/BenMcKenzie who plays Gordon directed the season 3 episode "These Delicate and Dark Obsessions".Obsessions" and the season 4 episode "One of My Three Soups".
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These are not trivia tropes.


* ActorAllusion:
** Jim Gordon was transferred to Gotham City from [[Series/{{Southland}} the City of Angels]].
** Alfred, played by the son of [[Series/DoctorWho Jon Pertwee]], fences with Bruce, whom he calls "Master." Also, Sean Pertwee has a son named Alfred. And this version of Alfred has a background in the British military and spy services, which is how Sean's father in RealLife served in World War II.
** Jeffrey Combs [[Film/ReAnimator performs various Body Horror jobs before becoming a victim of them himself]].
** One of the first things Creator/MichaelChiklis's character does upon taking command of the GCPD is to form a [[Series/TheShield Strike Force]].
--->'''Captain Barnes:''' It has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
** In addition to being [[Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit a psychiatrist]], Dr. Hugo Strange also [[Franchise/JurassicPark uses genetic manipulation]] to make monsters.
** Bullock notes [[Series/{{Terriers}} "I bet I'd make a kickass PI."]]
*** In "Red Hood," one of the Red Hood Gang says he's robbing banks because he couldn't get a loan for a small business, which is what Creator/DonalLogue did in ''The Knights of Prosperity''.
*** After (briefly) retiring from GCPD, Bullock opens a bar, much like Donal Logue in ''Series/GroundedForLife''.
** Oswald Cobblepot's father is played by Creator/PaulReubens, who also played the Penguin's father in ''Film/BatmanReturns''.
** Dwight Pollard (a devotee of [[ComicBook/TheJoker Jerome]] [[LegacyCharacter Valeska]]) is played by David Dastmalchian, who previously starred in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' as a minion of the Joker.
** Season 4's "Let Them Eat Pie" has Professor Pyg (Michael Cerveris) [[spoiler:slaughtering homeless citizens and baking them into meat pies]]. This is a nod to ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'', which Cerveris starred in back in 2005.



* RoleReprisal: Creator/PaulReubens, The Penguin's father in ''Film/BatmanReturns'', plays The Penguin's father in several episodes of season two. He's considerably nicer in this appearance, and isn't named Cobblepot.

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-->'''Captain --->'''Captain Barnes:''' It has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?


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*** After (briefly) retiring from GCPD, Bullock opens a bar, much like Donal Logue in ''Series/GroundedForLife''.


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* RoleReprisal: Creator/PaulReubens, The Penguin's father in ''Film/BatmanReturns'', plays The Penguin's father in several episodes of season two. He's considerably nicer in this appearance, and isn't named Cobblepot.
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* OneOfUs: David Mazouz is a self-proclaimed comics nerd and [[http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/12/19/david-mazouz-gotham-arrowverse-crossover-idea/ has voiced his desire]] to have a crossover with the Series/{{Arrowverse}}. He has also stated that he wants a young [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Clark Kent]] to appear on the show.

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* OneOfUs: David Mazouz is a self-proclaimed comics nerd and [[http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/12/19/david-mazouz-gotham-arrowverse-crossover-idea/ has voiced his desire]] to have a crossover with the Series/{{Arrowverse}}. He has also stated that he wants a young [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Clark Kent]] to appear on the show.show and is also a fan of the Nygmobblepot pairing.
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** Dwight Pollard (a devotee of [[TheJoker Jerome]] [[LegacyCharacter Valeska]]) is played by David Dastmalchian, who previously starred in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' as a minion of the Joker.

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** Dwight Pollard (a devotee of [[TheJoker [[ComicBook/TheJoker Jerome]] [[LegacyCharacter Valeska]]) is played by David Dastmalchian, who previously starred in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' as a minion of the Joker.

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