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* CreatorBacklash: This is widely regarded as John Carpenter's worst movie and it would be the last one he made for almost ten years. Music/IceCube also disliked the film as well.
-->'''Creator/IceCube:''' I don't like that movie. I'm a big fan of John Carpenter and the only reason I did it was because John Carpenter directed it but they really didn't have the money to pull the special effects off.
-->'''Creator/IceCube:''' I don't like that movie. I'm a big fan of John Carpenter and the only reason I did it was because John Carpenter directed it but they really didn't have the money to pull the special effects off.
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* OldShame: This is widely regarded as John Carpenter's worst movie and it would be the last one he made for almost ten years. Music/IceCube also disliked the film as well.
-->'''Creator/IceCube:''' I don't like that movie. I'm a big fan of John Carpenter and the only reason I did it was because John Carpenter directed it but they really didn't have the money to pull the special effects off.
-->'''Creator/IceCube:''' I don't like that movie. I'm a big fan of John Carpenter and the only reason I did it was because John Carpenter directed it but they really didn't have the money to pull the special effects off.
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* DivorcedInstallment: It's been rumoured the film started life as ''[[Film/EscapeFromNewYork Escape From Mars]]'', the long-talked-about third Snake Plissken film, though that was also mentioned as ''Escape From Earth''. Certainly it's possible ideas for ''Escape...'' ended up in ''Ghosts...''.
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* DivorcedInstallment: It's been rumoured Unconfirmed rumors swirled for decades that the film started life as ''[[Film/EscapeFromNewYork Escape ''Escape From Mars]]'', the long-talked-about Earth'', a prospective third Snake Plissken film, though that was also mentioned as ''Escape From Earth''. Certainly it's possible ideas for ''Escape...'' ended up in ''Ghosts...''.there is no actual evidence of this.
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* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter didn't direct another project until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] and didn't direct another theatrical film until ''Film/TheWard'' in 2010.
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* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter didn't direct While his career had been going downhill for much of TheNineties, this was the film that finally ended Creator/JohnCarpenter's days as a mainstream filmmaker. It was four years before he directed [[Recap/MastersOfHorrorS1E8CigaretteBurns another project until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] project]], and he didn't direct another theatrical film until ''Film/TheWard'' in 2010. 2010, which sank without a trace.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Made for a budget of $28 million, and only made $14 million worldwide. Fortunately, it did well enough on DVD that it was mildly profitable in the end, but it was enough to convince Carpenter to retire from directing for another couple years.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Made for a budget of $28 million, and only made $14 million worldwide. Fortunately, it did well enough on DVD that it was mildly profitable in the end, but it was enough to convince Carpenter [[CreatorKiller to retire from directing for another couple years.years]].
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Made for a budget of $28 million, and only made $14 million worldwide. Fortunately, it did well enough on DVD that it was mildly profitable in the end, but not enough to convince Carpenter to continue directing for another couple years.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Made for a budget of $28 million, and only made $14 million worldwide. Fortunately, it did well enough on DVD that it was mildly profitable in the end, but not it was enough to convince Carpenter to continue retire from directing for another couple years.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Made for a budget of $28 million, and only made $14 million worldwide. Fortunately, it did well enough on DVD that it was mildly profitable in the end.end, but not enough to convince Carpenter to continue directing for another couple years.
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* AwesomeDearBoy: Music/IceCube signed on purely to work with Creator/JohnCarpenter.
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* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter didn't direct another project until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] and didn't direct another theatrical film until the Film/TheWard in 2010.
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* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation until they managed to sign on Ice Cube, who was a much bigger name at the time.
* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter didn't direct another project until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] and didn't direct another theatrical film until ''Film/TheWard'' in 2010.
* DivorcedInstallment: It's been rumoured theFilm/TheWard film started life as ''[[Film/EscapeFromNewYork Escape From Mars]]'', the long-talked-about third Snake Plissken film, though that was also mentioned as ''Escape From Earth''. Certainly it's possible ideas for ''Escape...'' ended up in 2010. ''Ghosts...''.
* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter didn't direct another project until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] and didn't direct another theatrical film until ''Film/TheWard'' in 2010.
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* OldShame: ''Ghosts of Mars'' is widely regarded as John Carpenter's worst movie and it would be the last one he made for almost ten years. Ice Cube also disliked the film as well.
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* OldShame: ''Ghosts of Mars'' This is widely regarded as John Carpenter's worst movie and it would be the last one he made for almost ten years. Ice Cube Music/IceCube also disliked the film as well.
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** Creator/JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation until they managed to sign on Ice Cube, who was a much bigger name at the time.
** It's been rumoured the film started life as ''[[Film/EscapeFromNewYork Escape From Mars]]'', the long-talked-about third Snake Plissken film, though that was also mentioned as ''Escape From Earth''. Certainly it's possible ideas for ''Escape...'' ended up in ''Ghosts...''.
** Creator/JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation until they managed to sign on Ice Cube, who was a much bigger name at the time.
** It's been rumoured the film started life as ''[[Film/EscapeFromNewYork Escape From Mars]]'', the long-talked-about third Snake Plissken film, though that was also mentioned as ''Escape From Earth''. Certainly it's possible ideas for ''Escape...'' ended up in ''Ghosts...''.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Creator/JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation until they managed to sign on Ice Cube, who was a much bigger nameTheOtherMarty: Creator/NatashaHenstridge replaced Music/CourtneyLove (the original choice) at the time.
** It's been rumouredlast minute. Love left the film started life as ''[[Film/EscapeFromNewYork Escape From Mars]]'', project after her boyfriend's ex-wife ran over her foot in her car while she was in training for the long-talked-about third Snake Plissken film, though that was also mentioned as ''Escape From Earth''. Certainly it's possible ideas picture.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/FamkeJanssen, Creator/FrankaPotente and Creator/MichelleYeoh were considered for''Escape...'' ended up in ''Ghosts...''.Lieutenant Melanie Ballard.
** Creator/JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation until they managed to sign on Ice Cube, who was a much bigger name
** It's been rumoured
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/FamkeJanssen, Creator/FrankaPotente and Creator/MichelleYeoh were considered for
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* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter didn't make another movie until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] because of this film's failure.
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* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter didn't make direct another movie project until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] because of this film's failure.and didn't direct another theatrical film until the Film/TheWard in 2010.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation until they managed to sign on Ice Cube, who was a much bigger name at the time.
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** Creator/JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation until they managed to sign on Ice Cube, who was a much bigger name at thetime.time.
** It's been rumoured the film started life as ''[[Film/EscapeFromNewYork Escape From Mars]]'', the long-talked-about third Snake Plissken film, though that was also mentioned as ''Escape From Earth''. Certainly it's possible ideas for ''Escape...'' ended up in ''Ghosts...''.
** Creator/JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation until they managed to sign on Ice Cube, who was a much bigger name at the
** It's been rumoured the film started life as ''[[Film/EscapeFromNewYork Escape From Mars]]'', the long-talked-about third Snake Plissken film, though that was also mentioned as ''Escape From Earth''. Certainly it's possible ideas for ''Escape...'' ended up in ''Ghosts...''.
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* OldShame: Inverted by being relatively quite recent. ''Ghosts of Mars'' is widely regarded as John Carpenter's worst movie and it would be the last one he made for almost ten years. Ice Cube also disliked the film as well.
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* OldShame: Inverted by being relatively quite recent. ''Ghosts of Mars'' is widely regarded as John Carpenter's worst movie and it would be the last one he made for almost ten years. Ice Cube also disliked the film as well.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Made for a budget of $28 million, and only made $14 million worldwide. Fortunately, it did well enough on DVD that it was mildly profitable in the end.
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* DuellingMovies: With ''Film/MissionToMars'' and ''Film/RedPlanet'', both of which were released the previous year. This film finished in the middle of the duel, coming behind ''Mission to Mars'' in terms of critical and box-office performance, but being more profitable and slightly better-reviewed than ''Red Planet''.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation.
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-->'''Creator/IceCube:''' I don't like that movie. I'm a big fan of John Carpenter and the only reason I did it was because John Carpenter directed it but they really didn't have the money to pull the special effects off.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: The police squad is composed of [[Series/TheLWord Kit Porter]], [[Film/TheTransporter Frank Martin]], [[Series/EliStone Taylor Wethersby]], and [[Series/{{Carnivale}} Sofie]].
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* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter doesn't make another movie until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] because of this film's failure.
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* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter doesn't didn't make another movie until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] because of this film's failure.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: The police squad is composed of [[Series/TheLWord Kit Porter]], [[Film/{{Transporter}} [[Film/TheTransporter Frank Martin]], [[Series/EliStone Taylor Wethersby]], and [[Series/{{Carnivale}} Sofie]].
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: JasonStatham was originally supposed to play Desolation.
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* CreatorKiller: Creator/JohnCarpenter doesn't make another movie until [[Series/MastersOfHorror 4 years later]] because of this film's failure.
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