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* InspirationForTheWork: Smith said he got the Red Dragon's dictum of "never use an ace when a two will do" at an actual poker game, and immediately wrote it down to use it in a future work.
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* ShrugOfGod: When the series was completed and a fan asked Jeff what the Crown of Horns actually ''was'', he basically said that he couldn't give a definitive answer and that the fan would have to figure it out for himself, implying the reason for his secrecy is either the 4th, 8th, or 19th reason.
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* BuryYourArt: Jeff Smith's hate for ''Thorn: Tales from the Lantern'', a book consisting of the comic strip he made that basically is a first draft of sorts, is why it has never been republished. Fetches really high prices on eBay whenever it shows up. Though some of the strips are on the online archive of the Ohio State University Cartoon Research Library. They were reprinted in the book ''Before Bone'', but that was limited to 500 copies and is similarly rare.
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* BuryYourArt: Jeff Smith's hate for For decades, the ''Thorn'' comic strip was almost impossible to get ahold of -- some of the strips had been collected in the book ''Thorn: Tales from the Lantern'', a and later in the book consisting of ''Before Bone'', but both books had extremely limited prints (1000 copies for the comic strip he made that basically is a first draft of sorts, is why it has never and 500 for the second and) are very rare. They have never been republished. Fetches republished and fetches really high prices on eBay whenever it shows they show up. Though The reason is that Jeff Smith didn't like ''Thorn,'' which he came to view as basically is a first draft of sorts. And so, for ages, the only way to read even some of the strips are on was through the online archive of the Ohio State University Cartoon Research Library. They were reprinted in Library -- or through certain unofficial image hosting sites.
** In later years, though, Jeff has softened on thebook ''Before Bone'', but that was limited to 500 copies strip, and is similarly rare.has finally decided to reprint the entire sun of the strip in one volume -- ''Thorn: The Complete College Strips,'' set to be released in 2024.
** In later years, though, Jeff has softened on the
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* HypotheticalCasting: When asked about a potential adaptation, Smith chose Creator/TimRobbins for the voice of Fone Bone and Creator/StevenWright for the Red Dragon.
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* OldShame: The reason why ''Thorn: Tales from the Lantern'', a book consisting of the comic strip Jeff Smith made that basically is a first draft of sorts, has never been republished. Fetches really high prices on eBay whenever it shows up. Though some of the strips are on the online archive of the Ohio State University Cartoon Research Library. They were reprinted in the book ''Before Bone'', but that was limited to 500 copies and is similarly rare.
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** The same can be said for each of the three failed adaptations and their development. Concept art, test animation, and scripts were produced for all three, but almost little-to-none of the material has ever resurfaced.
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series, until ''that'' was canceled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. Smith made a [[https://twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472 follow-up comic]] parodying his optimism and experience working to try to get an adaptation off the ground.
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series, until ''that'' was canceled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. Smith made a [[https://twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472 follow-up comic]] parodying his optimism and experience working to try to get an adaptation off the ground. As of February 2023, [[https://www.cbr.com/jeff-smith-tom-sniegoski-bone-interview/ Smith has declared that following Netflix's attempt being canned, other studios started approaching him to continue development on the adaptation, but Netflix currently owns the adaptation rights, so time will tell if anything will happen.]]
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series, until ''that'' was cancelled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. If [[https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472 this tweet]] from Jeff is to be believed, he’s given up on the idea of ever making any kind of adaptation of the comic.
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series, until ''that'' was cancelled canceled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. If [[https://mobile.twitter.Smith made a [[https://twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472 this tweet]] from Jeff is follow-up comic]] parodying his optimism and experience working to be believed, he’s given up on the idea of ever making any kind of try to get an adaptation of off the comic.ground.
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series, until ''that'' was cancelled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. Who knows what will happen in the future... However, if [[https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472 this tweet]] from Jeff is to be believed, he’s given up on the idea of ever making any kind of adaptation of the comic.
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series, until ''that'' was cancelled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. Who knows what will happen in the future... However, if If [[https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472 this tweet]] from Jeff is to be believed, he’s given up on the idea of ever making any kind of adaptation of the comic.
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series, until ''that'' was cancelled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. Who knows what will happen in the future... However, if [[https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472 this tweet]] from Jeff is to be believed, he’s ultimately given up on ever making an animated adaptation of the comic.
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series, until ''that'' was cancelled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. Who knows what will happen in the future... However, if [[https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472 this tweet]] from Jeff is to be believed, he’s ultimately given up on the idea of ever making an animated any kind of adaptation of the comic.
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series... until ''that'' was cancelled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. Who knows what will happen in the future...
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series... series, until ''that'' was cancelled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. Who knows what will happen in the future... However, if [[https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472 this tweet]] from Jeff is to be believed, he’s ultimately given up on ever making an animated adaptation of the comic.
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** [[RuleOfThree Netflix was also interested in making a]] ''Bone'' adaptation, only to get cancelled due to Netflix restructuring their business model.
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** [[RuleOfThree Netflix was also interested in making a]] ''Bone'' adaptation, only to get adaptation. However, the project was silently dropped [[https://twitter.com/AGuyWhoDraws/status/1516937633997352965 as early as Fall 2021]], and publically cancelled due to on April 20, 2022. In a report by [[https://www.yahoo.com/now/netflix-animation-erased-executives-fired-220251819.html The Wrap]], Netflix restructuring their restructured its business model.model to focus more on acquired shows to mimic the viewership success of ''WesternAnimation/TheBossBabyBackInBusiness''. As a result, Netflix downsized its in-house animation branch for Kids & Family series, terminating numerous projects like ''Bone''.
*** The Netflix series would have been [[https://twitter.com/ncrossanimation/status/1517130587076661248 co-executively produced]] by animator Nick Cross. He is best known for his Emmy-winning work on ''WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall''.
*** [[https://twitter.com/nathanramospark/status/1517084601881022464 Nathan Ramos-Park]] and [[https://twitter.com/heyjustin/status/1517062559379173376 Justin Michael]] (''WesternAnimation/InfinityTrain'') were attached as story editors.
*** During the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic, Jeff Smith [[https://www.polygon.com/comics/2021/7/24/22589309/netflix-bone-animated-series-jeff-smith-update scouted around]] for talent from Creator/CartoonNetwork and other Netflix series he liked to work on the series. At the time, he was proudly successful in "getting everybody I wanted."
*** The Netflix series would have been [[https://twitter.com/ncrossanimation/status/1517130587076661248 co-executively produced]] by animator Nick Cross. He is best known for his Emmy-winning work on ''WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall''.
*** [[https://twitter.com/nathanramospark/status/1517084601881022464 Nathan Ramos-Park]] and [[https://twitter.com/heyjustin/status/1517062559379173376 Justin Michael]] (''WesternAnimation/InfinityTrain'') were attached as story editors.
*** During the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic, Jeff Smith [[https://www.polygon.com/comics/2021/7/24/22589309/netflix-bone-animated-series-jeff-smith-update scouted around]] for talent from Creator/CartoonNetwork and other Netflix series he liked to work on the series. At the time, he was proudly successful in "getting everybody I wanted."
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* DevelopmentHell: The movie, which was to be made by {{Creator/Nickelodeon}}, but ExecutiveMeddling caused Jeff Smith to say no. It would be years before anything more would be heard, but then came Creator/WarnerBros acquiring the rights. However, little has been heard from it since, with Jeff Smith not making too many comments on it. Rumors have it that a CGI movie will be made, to which Smith eventually agreed, though he insists in interviews that he'd have preferred a hand-drawn-animated one. Eventually, Warner Bros.' rights to adapt the comic lapsed, and they were acquired by Creator/{{Netflix}}, who have had announced their intent to turn it into an animated TV series. series... until ''that'' was cancelled due to Netflix restructuring their business model. Who knows what will happen in the future...
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: ''Bone'' just cannot catch a break when it comes to adaptations, as any attempts resulted in the network in question to force unnecessary changes (see the Nickelodeon example), got silently cancelled (see Warner Bros.), or publicly cancelled (Netflix announced this in April of 2022).
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