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* FlipFlopOfGod: On the canonicity of the games. It's suppose to be set within the rest of the Arkham-verse but contradicts many things that were set within it. ''Rocksteady'' reportedly stated that only their Batman made games (''Asylum'', ''City'' and ''Knight'') are in their own continuity while the WB Montreal games (''Origins'' and ''Blackgate'') are "spinoff" games. So far nothing been concrete.
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* FlipFlopOfGod: On the canonicity of the games. It's suppose to be set within the rest of the Arkham-verse but contradicts many things that were set within it. ''Rocksteady'' reportedly stated it.
** In [[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/03/26/rocksteady-studios-comments-on-batman-arkham-origins.aspx this interview]] Sefton Hill, the game director and co-founder of Rocksteady Studios states thatonly their Batman made games (''Asylum'', ''City'' and ''Knight'') are in their own continuity while he considers Origins canon to the WB Montreal games (''Origins'' and ''Blackgate'') are "spinoff" games. So far nothing been concrete.other games.
** In [[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/03/26/rocksteady-studios-comments-on-batman-arkham-origins.aspx this interview]] Sefton Hill, the game director and co-founder of Rocksteady Studios states that
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* FlipFlopOfGod: On the canonicity of the games. It's suppose to be set within the rest of the Arkham-verse but contradicts many things that were set within it. ''Rocksteady'' reportedly stated that only their Batman made games (''Asylum'', ''City'' and ''Knight'') are in their own continuity while the WB Montreal games (''Origins'' and ''Blackgate'') are an AlternateContinuity."spinoff" games. So far nothing been concrete.
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* ActorAllusion: This wouldn't be the first time Creator/CrispinFreeman's voiced a character who [[Manga/{{Naruto}} utilizes fire in combat]].
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** This wouldn't be the first time Creator/CrispinFreeman's voiced a character who [[Manga/{{Naruto}} utilizes fire incombat]].combat]].
** The character voiced by TaraStrong doesn't have many friends. Only this time, her character goes down a darker path to get some rather than [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic learning the magic of friends]].
** This wouldn't be the first time Creator/CrispinFreeman's voiced a character who [[Manga/{{Naruto}} utilizes fire in
** The character voiced by TaraStrong doesn't have many friends. Only this time, her character goes down a darker path to get some rather than [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic learning the magic of friends]].
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** One of the freeze gadgets from ''City'' appears in Cold, Cold, Heart as an item on Victor's desk in Gothcorp.
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** Martin Jarvis, Creator/NolanNorth, Chris Cox, Peter [=MacNicol=], Creator/TomKane, and Music/GreyDeLisle reprise their respective roles as Alfred, Penguin, Deadshot, Mad Hatter, Quincy Sharp, and Vicki Vale from ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''. Likewise, Creator/WallyWingert reprises the role of Edward Nymga/Nashton, albeit under the pre-Riddler alias Enigma and Creator/TaraStrong returns as a pre-Harley Quinn Harleen Quinzel.
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** Martin Jarvis, Creator/NolanNorth, Chris Cox, Peter [=MacNicol=], Creator/TomKane, and Music/GreyDeLisle reprise their respective roles as Alfred, Penguin, Deadshot, Mad Hatter, Quincy Sharp, and Vicki Vale from ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''. Likewise, Creator/WallyWingert reprises the role of Edward Nymga/Nashton, albeit under the pre-Riddler alias Enigma and Creator/TaraStrong returns as a pre-Harley Quinn Harleen Quinzel. "A Cold, Cold Heart" also sees Creator/MauriceLaMarche return as Mr. Freeze.
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** Creator/BrianBloom replaces Creator/NolanNorth as Black Mask. This one, like DavidKaye taking over as Commissioner Gordon and Music/GreyDeLisle as Martha Wayne in ''Arkham City'', is puzzling, considering North is returning to reprise the role of Penguin, just as Creator/TomKane and Tasia Valenza (Gordon and Martha's respective voice actors in ''Arkham Asylum'') reprised the respective roles of Qunicy Sharp and Poison Ivy in ''City''.
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** Creator/BrianBloom replaces Creator/NolanNorth as Black Mask. This one, like DavidKaye taking over as Commissioner Gordon and Music/GreyDeLisle as Martha Wayne in ''Arkham City'', is puzzling, considering North is returning to reprise the role of Penguin, just as Creator/TomKane and Tasia Valenza (Gordon and Martha's respective voice actors in ''Arkham Asylum'') reprised the respective roles of Qunicy Quincy Sharp and Poison Ivy in ''City''.
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** KellyHu is Shiva.
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** KellyHu Creator/KellyHu is Shiva.
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** Kaiji Tang ([[Film/TekkenBloodVengeance Lee Chaolan]]) is Kirgi.
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** Kaiji Tang ([[Film/TekkenBloodVengeance Lee Chaolan]]) Creator/KaijiTang is Kirgi.
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** Michael Gough replaces Creator/TomKane and DavidKaye as Jim Gordon; ironically, despite voicing a younger Gordon, Gough is older than both Kane and Kaye.
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** Martin Jarvis, Creator/NolanNorth, Chris Cox, Peter [=MacNicol=], TomKane, and Music/GreyDeLisle reprise their respective roles as Alfred, Penguin, Deadshot, Mad Hatter, Quincy Sharp, and Vicki Vale from ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''. Likewise, Creator/WallyWingert reprises the role of Edward Nymga/Nashton, albeit under the pre-Riddler alias Enigma and Creator/TaraStrong returns as a pre-Harley Quinn Harleen Quinzel.
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** Martin Jarvis, Creator/NolanNorth, Chris Cox, Peter [=MacNicol=], TomKane, Creator/TomKane, and Music/GreyDeLisle reprise their respective roles as Alfred, Penguin, Deadshot, Mad Hatter, Quincy Sharp, and Vicki Vale from ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''. Likewise, Creator/WallyWingert reprises the role of Edward Nymga/Nashton, albeit under the pre-Riddler alias Enigma and Creator/TaraStrong returns as a pre-Harley Quinn Harleen Quinzel.
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** Creator/BrianBloom replaces Creator/NolanNorth as Black Mask. This one, like DavidKaye taking over as Commissioner Gordon and Music/GreyDeLisle as Martha Wayne in ''Arkham City'', is puzzling, considering North is returning to reprise the role of Penguin, just as TomKane and Tasia Valenza (Gordon and Martha's respective voice actors in ''Arkham Asylum'') reprised the respective roles of Qunicy Sharp and Poison Ivy in ''City''.
** Michael Gough replaces TomKane and DavidKaye as Jim Gordon; ironically, despite voicing a younger Gordon, Gough is older than both Kane and Kaye.
** Michael Gough replaces TomKane and DavidKaye as Jim Gordon; ironically, despite voicing a younger Gordon, Gough is older than both Kane and Kaye.
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** Creator/BrianBloom replaces Creator/NolanNorth as Black Mask. This one, like DavidKaye taking over as Commissioner Gordon and Music/GreyDeLisle as Martha Wayne in ''Arkham City'', is puzzling, considering North is returning to reprise the role of Penguin, just as TomKane Creator/TomKane and Tasia Valenza (Gordon and Martha's respective voice actors in ''Arkham Asylum'') reprised the respective roles of Qunicy Sharp and Poison Ivy in ''City''.
** Michael Gough replacesTomKane Creator/TomKane and DavidKaye as Jim Gordon; ironically, despite voicing a younger Gordon, Gough is older than both Kane and Kaye.
** Michael Gough replaces
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** Martin Jarvis, Creator/NolanNorth, Chris Cox, Peter [=MacNicol=], TomKane, and Music/GreyDeLisle reprise their respective roles as Alfred, Penguin, Deadshot, Mad Hatter, Quincy Sharp, and Vicki Vale from ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''. Likewise, WallyWingert reprises the role of Edward Nymga/Nashton, albeit under the pre-Riddler alias Enigma and Creator/TaraStrong returns as a pre-Harley Quinn Harleen Quinzel.
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** Martin Jarvis, Creator/NolanNorth, Chris Cox, Peter [=MacNicol=], TomKane, and Music/GreyDeLisle reprise their respective roles as Alfred, Penguin, Deadshot, Mad Hatter, Quincy Sharp, and Vicki Vale from ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''. Likewise, WallyWingert Creator/WallyWingert reprises the role of Edward Nymga/Nashton, albeit under the pre-Riddler alias Enigma and Creator/TaraStrong returns as a pre-Harley Quinn Harleen Quinzel.
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** [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]], Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Electrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/The Spectacular SpiderMan Spider-Man, Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin/Chameleon, Sha-Shan Nguyen, Electro, and Betty Brant/Sally Avril]].
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** [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]], Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Electrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/The Spectacular SpiderMan [[WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan Spider-Man, Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin/Chameleon, Sha-Shan Nguyen, Electro, and Betty Brant/Sally Avril]].
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** [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]], Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Electrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/{{The Spectacular Spider-Man}} Spider-Man, Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin/Chameleon, Sha-Shan Nguyen, Electro, and Betty Brant/Sally Avril]].
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** [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]], Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Electrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/{{The [[WesternAnimation/The Spectacular Spider-Man}} SpiderMan Spider-Man, Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin/Chameleon, Sha-Shan Nguyen, Electro, and Betty Brant/Sally Avril]].
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** A photo of Arkham guard Aaron Cash's family can be found. Which is strange since the photo was in City and it includes a baby and young children.
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** A photo of Arkham guard Aaron Cash's family can be found. Which is strange since found in a locker at the photo was in City and police precinct - the same one from ''City'', meaning that it includes a baby and not only two young children.children who were likely not born yet at this point in the series' continuity, but an infant who was only born after the events of ''Asylum''.
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** Kaiji Tang ([[Film/TekkenBloodVengeance Lee Chaolan]]) is Kirgi.
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* LyingCreator: THE WORST NIGHTMARE SKIN. Before the game's release, it was stated to be available in the main game and vaguely implied to be unlocked through 100% completion. However, those who managed to achieve that feat never unlocked for use, causing much speculations on how it is obtained. Even worse was the developers keeping quiet the entire time before eventually admitting that it has been "removed". Considering the skin was never available to be unlocked in the first place, "removed" probably isn't the right word to use here.
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* LyingCreator: THE WORST NIGHTMARE SKIN. Before the game's release, it the "Worst Nightmare" skin was stated to be available in the main game and vaguely implied to be unlocked through with 100% completion. However, those who managed to achieve that feat never unlocked it for use, causing much speculations speculation on how it is was to be obtained. Even worse was Complicating the problem, the developers keeping kept quiet the entire time for some time, before eventually admitting that it has had been "removed". Considering the skin was never available to be unlocked in the first place, "removed" probably isn't in testing, and was never in the right word to use here.commercially released version.
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** [[Creator/TroyBaker The Joker]] and [[Creator/JBBlanc Bane]] are [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri Lowell and Barbos/Leblanc/Natz]], as well as [[VideoGame/{{Persona 4}} Kanji Tatsumi and Ryotaro Dojima]].
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** [[Creator/TroyBaker The Joker]] and Joker]], [[Creator/JBBlanc Bane]] and [[Creator/RogerCraigSmith Batman]] are [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri Lowell Lowell, Barbos/Leblanc/Natz, and Barbos/Leblanc/Natz]], as well as Zagi]]. The latter two are also [[VideoGame/{{Persona 4}} Kanji Tatsumi and Ryotaro Dojima]].Dojima]] and [[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations Ezio Auditore and Tarik Barleti]].
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** [[Creator/TroyBaker The Joker]] and [[Creator/JBBlanc Bane]] are [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri Lowell and Barbos/Leblanc/Natz]].
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** [[Creator/TroyBaker The Joker]] and [[Creator/JBBlanc Bane]] are [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri Lowell and Barbos/Leblanc/Natz]].Barbos/Leblanc/Natz]], as well as [[VideoGame/{{Persona 4}} Kanji Tatsumi and Ryotaro Dojima]].
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** [[Creator/TroyBaker The Joker]] and [[Creator/JBBlanc Bane]] are [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri Lowell and Barbos]].
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** [[Creator/TroyBaker The Joker]] and [[Creator/JBBlanc Bane]] are [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri Lowell and Barbos]].Barbos/Leblanc/Natz]].
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** Mark Rolston ([[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries another Firefly]], [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice Lex Luthor]]) is Deathstroke.
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** Mark Rolston ([[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries another Firefly]], [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice Lex Lex]] [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs Luthor]]) is Deathstroke.
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* LyingCreator: The THE WORST NIGHTMARE SKIN. Before the game's release, it was stated to be available in the main game and vaguely implied to be unlocked through 100% completion. However, those who managed to achieve that feat never unlocked for use, causing much speculations on how it is obtained. Even worse was the developers keeping quiet the entire time before eventually admitting that it has been 'removed'. "removed". Considering the skin was never available to be unlocked in the first place, 'removed' "removed" probably isn't the right word to use here.
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* LyingCreator: The WORST NIGHTMARE SKIN. Before the game's release, it was stated to be available in the main game and vaguely implied to be unlocked through 100% completion. However, those who managed to achieve that feat never unlocked for use, causing much speculations on how it is obtained. Even worse was the developers keeping quiet the entire time before eventually admitting that it has been 'removed'. Considering the skin was never available to be unlocked in the first place, 'removed' probably isn't the right word to use here.
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** A photo of Arkham guard Aaron Cash's family can be found. Which is strange since the photo was in City and it includes a baby and young children.
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** Music/GreyDeLisle is [[ComicBook/BatmanYearOne once again]] Vicki Vale.
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** [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]], Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Elecrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/{{The Spectacular Spider-Man}} Spider-Man, Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin/Chameleon, Sha-Shan Nguyen, Electro, and Betty Brant/Sally Avril]].
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** [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]], Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Elecrocutioner]], Lips/Electrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/{{The Spectacular Spider-Man}} Spider-Man, Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin/Chameleon, Sha-Shan Nguyen, Electro, and Betty Brant/Sally Avril]].
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Grey De Lisle disagrees about it being Kari Wahlgren in AC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4mFjqkH7DQ
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** Martin Jarvis, Creator/NolanNorth, Chris Cox, Peter [=MacNicol=] [=MacNicol=], TomKane, and TomKane Music/GreyDeLisle reprise their respective roles as Alfred, Penguin, Deadshot, Mad Hatter and Hatter, Quincy Sharp Sharp, and Vicki Vale from ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''. Likewise, WallyWingert reprises the role of Edward Nymga/Nashton, albeit under the pre-Riddler alias Enigma and Creator/TaraStrong returns as a pre-Harley Quinn Harleen Quinzel.
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** Likewise, gun racks in the GCPD still bear the familiar Arkham logo, despite the facility being closed at the time of the game.
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** [[Creator/RogerCraigSmith Batman]], [[Creator/NolanNorth Penguin]], [[Creator/KharyPayton Warden Martin/Killer Croc]], Deathstroke, Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Electrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice Ocean Master, Superboy/Superman/Zatara/Marvin, Aqualad/Black Manta, Lex Luthor, Professor Ivo/Amazo, Count Vertigo, Cheshire, Red Arrow/Guardian, Black Spider, and Dreamer/Whisper A'Daire.]]
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** [[Creator/RogerCraigSmith Batman]], [[Creator/NolanNorth Penguin]], [[Creator/KharyPayton Warden Martin/Killer Croc]], Deathstroke, Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Electrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice Ocean Master, Superboy/Superman/Zatara/Marvin, Aqualad/Black Manta, Lex Luthor, Professor Ivo/Amazo, Count Vertigo, Cheshire, Red Arrow/Guardian, Arrow/Guardian/Arsenal, Black Spider, and Dreamer/Whisper A'Daire.]]
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** [[Creator/RogerCraigSmith Batman]], [[Creator/NolanNorth Penguin]], [[Creator/KharyPayton Warden Martin/Killer Croc]], Deathstroke, Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Electrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], and [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]] are [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice Ocean Master, Superboy/Superman/Zatara/Marvin, Aqualad/Black Manta, Lex Luthor, Professor Ivo/Amazo, Count Vertigo, Cheshire, Red Arrow/Guardian, and Black Spider.]]
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** [[Creator/RogerCraigSmith Batman]], [[Creator/NolanNorth Penguin]], [[Creator/KharyPayton Warden Martin/Killer Croc]], Deathstroke, Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Electrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]], and [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]] Robin]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice Ocean Master, Superboy/Superman/Zatara/Marvin, Aqualad/Black Manta, Lex Luthor, Professor Ivo/Amazo, Count Vertigo, Cheshire, Red Arrow/Guardian, and Black Spider.Spider, and Dreamer/Whisper A'Daire.]]
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** [[Creator/JoshKeaton Robin]], Mad Hatter, [[Creator/SteveBlum Loose Lips/Elecrocutioner]], [[KellyHu Shiva]], and [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Firefly]] Firefly]], and [[Music/GreyDeLisle Vicki Vale]] are [[WesternAnimation/{{The Spectacular Spider-Man}} Spider-Man, Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin/Chameleon, Sha-Shan Nguyen, Electro, and Electro]].Betty Brant/Sally Avril]].
