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* NotSoDifferent: Hector and Odysseus, it turns out. Both have a family to care for, and are against the war.

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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a two-part play by French writer Jean Giraudoux, taking place at the eve of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their abilities. Leading this effort is Hector, the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same vein as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic references give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to connect the theme of the play to current events, as well as war in general, not solely the ''Trojan'' one.

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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a two-part play by French writer Jean Giraudoux, taking place at the eve of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their abilities. Leading this effort is Hector, the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same vein as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, pacifism, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic references give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to connect the theme of the play to current events, as well as war in general, not solely the ''Trojan'' one.



* DumbBlonde: Helen. At least she plays the part, to a point where Hector moans that the entire fate of his country is connected to a "mud-brain". On the other hand, it seems she has prophetic foresight, and turns out to be just as prophetic as Cassandra is.



* DumbBlonde: Helen. At least she plays the part, to a point where Hector moans that the entire fate of his country is connected to a "mud-brain". On the other hand, it seems she has prophetic foresight, and turns out to be just as prophetic as Cassandra is.
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* PeepingTom: Many of the elders watch Helen from the battlements. Some of them have found a better position, watching her from ''below''...

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* PeepingTom: ThePeepingTom: Many of the elders watch Helen from the battlements. Some of them have found a better position, watching her from ''below''...

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* BoisterousBruiser: Ajax, when he enters stage.

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* BoisterousBruiser: Ajax, when he enters comes on stage.



* DeadpanSnarker: Many of Priam´s children have this trait, especially Hector and Cassandra. Even Andromache chimes in. Mostly when they hit back at their elders. Even Queen Hecuba has her moments.
* DeusExMachina: Iris, the Divine messenger of Hera, shows up towards the end of the play, stating the opinions of Afrodite, Athena and Zeus.
* DidTheyOrDidntThey: At one point, the plot hinges on whether Paris had his way with Helen during the trip from Greece to Phrygia. The sailors claim they saw everything, making Peace efforts very difficult.
* DirtyOldMan: Most of the Trojan elders come down to this, drooling over Helen. Even Priam has tendencies, and Demodocus, the city poet, is the most prominent of them in-play.
* FalseFlagAttack: Referenced by Hector in the penultimate scene, when Odysseus hints that there are more to Troy than just Helen. It makes Hector quip something about staging the whole seduction to make a believable PretextForWar.
* ForegoneConclusion: The Trojan war did take place after all.

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* DeadpanSnarker: Many of Priam´s children have this trait, especially Hector and Cassandra. Even Andromache chimes in. Mostly They do this mostly when they hit back at their elders. Even Queen Hecuba has her moments.
* DeusExMachina: Iris, the Divine messenger of Hera, shows up towards the end of the play, stating the opinions of Afrodite, Aphrodite, Athena and Zeus.
* DidTheyOrDidntThey: At one point, the plot hinges on whether Paris had his way with Helen during the trip from Greece to Phrygia. The sailors claim they saw everything, making Peace peace efforts very difficult.
* DirtyOldMan: Most of the Trojan elders come down to this, drooling over Helen. Even Priam has tendencies, does so, and Demodocus, the city poet, is the most prominent of them in-play.
* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The play is full of references to World War I.
* FalseFlagAttack: Referenced by Hector in the penultimate scene, when Odysseus hints that there are is more to Troy than just Helen. It makes Hector quip something about staging the whole seduction to make a believable PretextForWar.
* ForegoneConclusion: The Trojan war did take place place, after all.



* MsFanservice: Helen In-universe - making all men around her mad with desire.
* NotSoDifferent: Hector and Odysseus, it turns out. Both have a Family to care for, and are reasonably against the war.
* DumbBlonde: Helen. At least she plays the part, to a point where Hector moans that the entire fate of his country is connected to a "mud-brain". On the other hand, it seems she has prophetic foresight, and turns out to be as right on her guesses as Cassandra is.

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* MsFanservice: Helen In-universe in-universe - making all men around her mad with desire.
* NotSoDifferent: Hector and Odysseus, it turns out. Both have a Family family to care for, and are reasonably against the war.
* DumbBlonde: Helen. At least she plays the part, to a point where Hector moans that the entire fate of his country is connected to a "mud-brain". On the other hand, it seems she has prophetic foresight, and turns out to be just as right on her guesses prophetic as Cassandra is.



* SourSupporter: Cassandra. She ''knows'' war is unavoidable, but supports her Brother anyway.

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* SourSupporter: Cassandra. She ''knows'' war is unavoidable, but supports her Brother brother anyway.



* WarIsHell: What Hector thinks, and other of his generation besides.

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* WarIsHell: What Hector thinks, and other others of his generation besides.
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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a two-part play by French writer Jean Giraudoux, taking place at the eve of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their ability. Leading this effort is ''Hector'', the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same veins as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic References give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to think again on the fact that the theme was on war in general, not solely the ''trojan'' one.

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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a two-part play by French writer Jean Giraudoux, taking place at the eve of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their ability. abilities. Leading this effort is ''Hector'', Hector, the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same veins vein as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic References references give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to think again on the fact that connect the theme was on of the play to current events, as well as war in general, not solely the ''trojan'' ''Trojan'' one.
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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a two-part play by French writer Jean Giraudoux, taking Place at the eve of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their ability. Leading this effort is ''Hector'', the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same veins as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic References give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to think again on the fact that the theme was on war in general, not solely the ''trojan'' one.

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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a two-part play by French writer Jean Giraudoux, taking Place place at the eve of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their ability. Leading this effort is ''Hector'', the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same veins as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic References give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to think again on the fact that the theme was on war in general, not solely the ''trojan'' one.
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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a French play in two parts, taking Place at the eve of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their ability. Leading this effort is ''Hector'', the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same veins as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic References give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to think again on the fact that the theme was on war in general, not solely the ''trojan'' one.

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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a two-part play by French play in two parts, writer Jean Giraudoux, taking Place at the eve of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their ability. Leading this effort is ''Hector'', the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same veins as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic References give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to think again on the fact that the theme was on war in general, not solely the ''trojan'' one.
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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a French play in two parts, taking Place at the eve of TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their ability. Leading this effort is ''Hector'', the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same veins as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic References give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to think again on the fact that the theme was on war in general, not solely the ''trojan'' one.

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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a French play in two parts, taking Place at the eve of TheTrojanWar.UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their ability. Leading this effort is ''Hector'', the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same veins as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic References give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to think again on the fact that the theme was on war in general, not solely the ''trojan'' one.
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* SymbolicEntity: Eirene, or ''Peace'' enters the stage at one point. She is pale and turns more and more transparent until she vanishes completely. Only Helen and Cassandra can see her.

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* SymbolicEntity: GodInHumanForm: Eirene, or ''Peace'' enters the stage at one point. She is pale and turns more and more transparent until she vanishes completely. Only Helen and Cassandra can see her.
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* HumanApparition: Eirene, or ''Peace'' enters the stage at one point. She is pale and turns more and more transparent until she vanishes completely. Only Helen and Cassandra can see her.

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* HumanApparition: SymbolicEntity: Eirene, or ''Peace'' enters the stage at one point. She is pale and turns more and more transparent until she vanishes completely. Only Helen and Cassandra can see her.
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* HumanoidIncarnation: Eirene, or ''Peace'' enters the stage at one point. She is pale and turns more and more transparent until she vanishes completely. Only Helen and Cassandra can see her.

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* HumanoidIncarnation: HumanApparition: Eirene, or ''Peace'' enters the stage at one point. She is pale and turns more and more transparent until she vanishes completely. Only Helen and Cassandra can see her.



* PeepingTom: Many of the elders watch Helen from the battlements. Some of them have found a better position, wathing her from ''below''...

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* PeepingTom: Many of the elders watch Helen from the battlements. Some of them have found a better position, wathing watching her from ''below''...
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* HumanoidImpersonation: Eirene, or ''Peace'' enters the stage at one point. She is pale and turns more and more transparent until she vanishes completely. Only Helen and Cassandra can see her.

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* HumanoidImpersonation: HumanoidIncarnation: Eirene, or ''Peace'' enters the stage at one point. She is pale and turns more and more transparent until she vanishes completely. Only Helen and Cassandra can see her.

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* AnachronismStew: Trenches and other sides of modern warfare and society are referenced in dialogue.



* DeusExMachina: Iris, the Divine messenger of Hera, shows up towards the end of the play, stating the opinions of Afrodite, Athena and Zeus.



* HumanoidImpersonation: Eirene, or ''Peace'' enters the stage at one point. She is pale and turns more and more transparent until she vanishes completely. Only Helen and Cassandra can see her.



* DumbBlonde: Helen. At least she plays the part, to a point where Hector moans that the entire fate of his country is connected to a "mud-brain".

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* DumbBlonde: Helen. At least she plays the part, to a point where Hector moans that the entire fate of his country is connected to a "mud-brain". On the other hand, it seems she has prophetic foresight, and turns out to be as right on her guesses as Cassandra is.



* TitleDrop: Andromache in the first line of the play.

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* TitleDrop: Andromache in the first line of the play.play.
* WarForFunAndProfit: Odysseus states that some of the Greeks are in on the campaign because of this. Some of the Trojan elders are of the same mind.
* WarIsGlorious: What many of the elders think.
* WarIsHell: What Hector thinks, and other of his generation besides.
* YouCantFightFate: Hector fights it with heroic effort. To no avail.
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* FalseFlag: Referenced by Hector in the penultimate scene, when Odysseus hints that there are more to Troy than just Helen. It makes Hector quip something about staging the whole seduction to make a believable PretextForWar.

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* FalseFlag: FalseFlagAttack: Referenced by Hector in the penultimate scene, when Odysseus hints that there are more to Troy than just Helen. It makes Hector quip something about staging the whole seduction to make a believable PretextForWar.
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'''The Trojan War Will Not Take Place'' (''La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu'') is a French play in two parts, taking Place at the eve of TheTrojanWar. The premise of the play is that many of the main characters try to prevent war, to the best of their ability. Leading this effort is ''Hector'', the son of Priamus, and his wife Andromache, who try to convince Paris that he is better off delivering Helen back to Menelaos. Being a man of reason, he almost succeeds, even coming to agreement with Odysseus, who actually thinks in the same veins as Hector. Unfortunately, fate is thwarting all good efforts to find a peaceful solution, and so are the elders of the city, who supports the thought of war. The CentralTheme of the play is one of pacifism and anti-war, set against the strong forces that set the war in motion. A number of anachronistic References give away the fact that Giraudoux wished for his audience to think again on the fact that the theme was on war in general, not solely the ''trojan'' one.

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* BoisterousBruiser: Ajax, when he enters stage.
* TheCassandra: Guess who.
* DeadpanSnarker: Many of Priam´s children have this trait, especially Hector and Cassandra. Even Andromache chimes in. Mostly when they hit back at their elders. Even Queen Hecuba has her moments.
* DidTheyOrDidntThey: At one point, the plot hinges on whether Paris had his way with Helen during the trip from Greece to Phrygia. The sailors claim they saw everything, making Peace efforts very difficult.
* DirtyOldMan: Most of the Trojan elders come down to this, drooling over Helen. Even Priam has tendencies, and Demodocus, the city poet, is the most prominent of them in-play.
* FalseFlag: Referenced by Hector in the penultimate scene, when Odysseus hints that there are more to Troy than just Helen. It makes Hector quip something about staging the whole seduction to make a believable PretextForWar.
* ForegoneConclusion: The Trojan war did take place after all.
* MsFanservice: Helen In-universe - making all men around her mad with desire.
* NotSoDifferent: Hector and Odysseus, it turns out. Both have a Family to care for, and are reasonably against the war.
* DumbBlonde: Helen. At least she plays the part, to a point where Hector moans that the entire fate of his country is connected to a "mud-brain".
* OnlySaneMan: Hector all the way. Odysseus when he shows up is of the same mind, although older and more cynical.
* ReallyGetsAround: Helen, of course. She uses some of her stage time to check out Troilus, and ends up making out with him while the war erupts around her. Paris is a good runner up.
* PeepingTom: Many of the elders watch Helen from the battlements. Some of them have found a better position, wathing her from ''below''...
* SourSupporter: Cassandra. She ''knows'' war is unavoidable, but supports her Brother anyway.
* TitleDrop: Andromache in the first line of the play.

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