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* The fact that the last interaction Laura has with Simon before [[spoiler: his death]] is her slapping him after he grew hysterical after finding out that he is adopted and will eventually die from HIV if he doesn’t take his medication.
* Thomás’s entire story is this: [[spoiler: he has a severely scarred face that motivated his mentally unstable mother to seclude him from the other children; he clearly displays some artistic talent that only goes to waste as a result of his isolation; he is somewhat bullied by the other kids for hiding his disfigured face behind a rather creepy mask when outside his secret room; and the bullying (intentional by the orphans or not) and enforced self-isolation reach the worst possible outcome after his peers trick him into entering a cave during low tide and removing his mask without his consent. After having become overly self-conscious in how others perceive him (no thanks to his emotionally abusive mother), Thomás refuses to come out of the cave over the risk of revealing his face to the other kids, leading him to drown once the tide eventually came up. Tragically, even after his own death, Thomás’s ghost had to watch the deaths of his peers after his mother avenged his death, and it is arguably partially his fault that Simon died after convincing Simon to go down to his room, which would lead Simon being locked in said room by Laura and eventually dying, too]].
* The fact that the last interaction Laura has with Simon before [[spoiler: his death]] is her slapping him after he grew hysterical after finding out that he is adopted and will eventually die from HIV if he doesn’t take his medication.
* Thomás’s entire story is this: [[spoiler: he has a severely scarred face that motivated his mentally unstable mother to seclude him from the other children; he clearly displays some artistic talent that only goes to waste as a result of his isolation; he is somewhat bullied by the other kids for hiding his disfigured face behind a rather creepy mask when outside his secret room; and the bullying (intentional by the orphans or not) and enforced self-isolation reach the worst possible outcome after his peers trick him into entering a cave during low tide and removing his mask without his consent. After having become overly self-conscious in how others perceive him (no thanks to his emotionally abusive mother), Thomás refuses to come out of the cave over the risk of revealing his face to the other kids, leading him to drown once the tide eventually came up. Tragically, even after his own death, Thomás’s ghost had to watch the deaths of his peers after his mother avenged his death, and it is arguably partially his fault that Simon died after convincing Simon to go down to his room, which would lead Simon being locked in said room by Laura and eventually dying, too]].
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* Thomás’s entire story is this. [[spoiler: He has a severely scarred face which motivated his mentally unstable mother to seclude him from the other children; he clearly has artistic talent that only goes to waste as a result of his isolation; he is somewhat bullied by the other kids for hiding his disfigured face behind a rather creepy mask; and the bullying (intentional by the orphans or not) and forced self-isolation reach the worst possible outcome after his peers trick him into entering a cave during low tide and remove his mask without his content. However, having become overly self-conscious in how others perceive him (thanks do his emotionally abusive mother), he refuses to come out of the cave under the risk of revealing his face to the other kids
* Thomás’s entire story is this. [[spoiler: He has a severely scarred face which motivated his mentally unstable mother to seclude him from the other children; he clearly has artistic talent that only goes to waste as a result of his isolation; he is somewhat bullied by the other kids for hiding his disfigured face behind a rather creepy mask; and the bullying (intentional by the orphans or not) and forced self-isolation reach the worst possible outcome after his peers trick him into entering a cave during low tide and remove his mask without his content. However, having become overly self-conscious in how others perceive him (thanks do his emotionally abusive mother), he refuses to come out of the cave under the risk of revealing his face to the other kids
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* For those of you who want to know: [[spoiler: Laura finds her son from the basement...but he is dead from hypothermia and starvation after being trapped there for weeks. In her grief Laura [[DrivenToSuicide overdoses with her son's HIV medicines]] and is reunited with Simon in death, where she becomes a matron for the orphan ghosts]] Personally I always start crying when the kids say "She's grown older, just like Wendy!" (Reference to PeterPan which was their bedtime story)
** Actually [[spoiler:it is hinted that he died the very first night by falling from the stairs. Evidence of this is the broken handle and the flashback that Laura had about listening to noises through a wall; immediately after the memories fade away we see the broken stairway railing and Simon lying on the floor, his neck at an unnatural angle. Which makes everything a lot sadder and creepier.]]
*** In either case, it was [[spoiler: basically HER fault that Simon died.]]
* To this troper the implications were that [[spoiler:she accidentally trapped Simon in the cellar with the steel pipes, and he tore the handle off in desparation before succumbing to dehydration. She still killed him after a fashion, and his death wasn't fast. Much more horrible, that way.]]
** No, it was [[spoiler: definitely the fall that killed him - necks do NOT bend that way.]] [[spoiler: She still caused it, as he only fell due to her accidentally trapping him inside. Sudden, but still about as close to directly being her fault as possible without... actually being her fault.]]
*** Personally, I don't blame Laura [[spoiler: for Simon's death. He decided to hide in the basement after pushing her into the bathroom and she didn't really cause him to fall to his death. He merely slipped and fell.]]
** The final scene also deserves to be mentioned: After [[spoiler: Laura's death, Carlos returns to the orphanage. He looks around the room where Laura died, still devastated that she's gone, along with ''his adopted son''. Then he finds the medallion he had given her to protect herself with halfway through the film. He then hears the doors and looks up to see them sway open...and ''[[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming he smiles]]'']].
** Just think for a second, Carlos was basically the ghost-proof parent, not believing Laura that the orphanage wasn't haunted, but still being supportive of her. Just ''that ending'' [[spoiler: shows that he may now believe that is wife and adoptive son are probably there..]].
** Actually [[spoiler:it is hinted that he died the very first night by falling from the stairs. Evidence of this is the broken handle and the flashback that Laura had about listening to noises through a wall; immediately after the memories fade away we see the broken stairway railing and Simon lying on the floor, his neck at an unnatural angle. Which makes everything a lot sadder and creepier.]]
*** In either case, it was [[spoiler: basically HER fault that Simon died.]]
* To this troper the implications were that [[spoiler:she accidentally trapped Simon in the cellar with the steel pipes, and he tore the handle off in desparation before succumbing to dehydration. She still killed him after a fashion, and his death wasn't fast. Much more horrible, that way.]]
** No, it was [[spoiler: definitely the fall that killed him - necks do NOT bend that way.]] [[spoiler: She still caused it, as he only fell due to her accidentally trapping him inside. Sudden, but still about as close to directly being her fault as possible without... actually being her fault.]]
*** Personally, I don't blame Laura [[spoiler: for Simon's death. He decided to hide in the basement after pushing her into the bathroom and she didn't really cause him to fall to his death. He merely slipped and fell.]]
** The final scene also deserves to be mentioned: After [[spoiler: Laura's death, Carlos returns to the orphanage. He looks around the room where Laura died, still devastated that she's gone, along with ''his adopted son''. Then he finds the medallion he had given her to protect herself with halfway through the film. He then hears the doors and looks up to see them sway open...and ''[[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming he smiles]]'']].
** Just think for a second, Carlos was basically the ghost-proof parent, not believing Laura that the orphanage wasn't haunted, but still being supportive of her. Just ''that ending'' [[spoiler: shows that he may now believe that is wife and adoptive son are probably there..]].
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**Actually [[spoiler:it It is also hinted that he [[spoiler:he died the very first night by falling from the stairs. Evidence of this is the broken handle and the flashback that Laura had about listening to noises through a wall; immediately after the memories fade away we see the broken stairway railing and Simon lying on the floor, his neck at an unnatural angle. Which makes everything a lot sadder and creepier.]] In either case, it was [[spoiler: basically HER fault that Simon died.]]
*** In either case, it was [[spoiler: basically HER fault that Simon died.]]
* To this troper the implications were that [[spoiler:she accidentally trapped Simon in the cellar with the steel pipes, and he tore the handle off in desparation before succumbing to dehydration. She still killed him after a fashion, and his death wasn't fast. Much more horrible, that way.]]
** No, it was [[spoiler: definitely the fall that killed him - necks do NOT bend that way.]] [[spoiler: She still caused it, as he only fell due to her accidentally trapping him inside. Sudden, but still about as close to directly being her fault as possible without... actually being her fault.]]
*** Personally, I don't blame Laura [[spoiler: for Simon's death. He decided to hide in the basement after pushing her into the bathroom and she didn't really cause him to fall to his death. He merely slipped and fell.]]
**The final scene also deserves to be mentioned: After [[spoiler: Laura's [[spoiler:Laura's death, Carlos returns to the orphanage. He looks around the room where Laura died, still devastated that she's gone, along with ''his adopted son''. Then he finds the medallion he had given her to protect herself with halfway through the film. He then hears the doors and looks up to see them sway open... and ''[[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming he smiles]]'']].
** Just think for a second, Carlos was basically the ghost-proof parent, not believing Laura that the orphanage wasn't haunted, but still being supportive of her. Just ''that ending''[[spoiler: shows [[spoiler:shows that he may now believe that is his wife and adoptive son are probably there..]].there]].
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** No, it was [[spoiler: definitely the fall that killed him - necks do NOT bend that way.]] [[spoiler: She still caused it, as he only fell due to her accidentally trapping him inside. Sudden, but still about as close to directly being her fault as possible without... actually being her fault.]]
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** Just think for a second, Carlos was basically the ghost-proof parent, not believing Laura that the orphanage wasn't haunted, but still being supportive of her. Just ''that ending'' [[spoiler: shows that he may now believe that is wife and adoptive son are probably there..]].
** Just think for a second, Carlos was basically the ghost-proof parent, not believing Laura that the orphanage wasn't haunted, but still being supportive of her. Just ''that ending'' [[spoiler: shows that he may now believe that is wife and adoptive son are probably there..]].
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** Just think for a second, Carlos was basically the ghost-proof parent, not believing Laura that the orphanage wasn't haunted, but still being supportive of her. Just ''that ending'' [[spoiler: shows that he may now believe that is wife and adoptive son are probably there..]].
** Just think for a second, Carlos was basically the ghost-proof parent, not believing Laura that the orphanage wasn't haunted, but still being supportive of her. Just ''that ending'' [[spoiler: shows that he may now believe that is wife and adoptive son are probably there..]].
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** Just think for a second, Carlos was basically the ghost-proof parent, not believing Laura that the orphanage wasn't haunted, but still being supportive of her. Just ''that ending'' [[spoiler: shows that he may now believe that is wife and adoptive son are probably there..]].
** Just think for a second, Carlos was basically the ghost-proof parent, not believing Laura that the orphanage wasn't haunted, but still being supportive of her. Just ''that ending'' [[spoiler: shows that he may now believe that is wife and adoptive son are probably there..]].
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** For those of you who want to know: [[spoiler: Laura finds her son from the basement...but he is dead from hypothermia and starvation after being trapped there for weeks. In her grief Laura [[DrivenToSuicide overdoses with her son's HIV medicines]] and is reunited with Simon in death, where she becomes a matron for the orphan ghosts]] Personally I always start crying when the kids say "She's grown older, just like Wendy!" (Reference to PeterPan which was their bedtime story)
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* For those of you who want to know: [[spoiler: Laura finds her son from the basement...but he is dead from hypothermia and starvation after being trapped there for weeks. In her grief Laura [[DrivenToSuicide overdoses with her son's HIV medicines]] and is reunited with Simon in death, where she becomes a matron for the orphan ghosts]] Personally I always start crying when the kids say "She's grown older, just like Wendy!" (Reference to PeterPan which was their bedtime story)
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** In either case, it was [[spoiler: basically HER fault that Simon died.]]
** To this troper the implications were that [[spoiler:she accidentally trapped Simon in the cellar with the steel pipes, and he tore the handle off in desparation before succumbing to dehydration. She still killed him after a fashion, and his death wasn't fast. Much more horrible, that way.]]
*** No, it was [[spoiler: definitely the fall that killed him - necks do NOT bend that way.]] [[spoiler: She still caused it, as he only fell due to her accidentally trapping him inside. Sudden, but still about as close to directly being her fault as possible without... actually being her fault.]]
**** Personally, I don't blame Laura [[spoiler: for Simon's death. He decided to hide in the basement after pushing her into the bathroom and she didn't really cause him to fall to his death. He merely slipped and fell.]]
** To this troper the implications were that [[spoiler:she accidentally trapped Simon in the cellar with the steel pipes, and he tore the handle off in desparation before succumbing to dehydration. She still killed him after a fashion, and his death wasn't fast. Much more horrible, that way.]]
*** No, it was [[spoiler: definitely the fall that killed him - necks do NOT bend that way.]] [[spoiler: She still caused it, as he only fell due to her accidentally trapping him inside. Sudden, but still about as close to directly being her fault as possible without... actually being her fault.]]
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** Actually [[spoiler:it is hinted that he died the very first night by falling from the stairs. Evidence of this is the broken handle and the flashback that Laura had about listening to noises through a wall; immediately after the memories fade away we see the broken stairs handle stairway railing and Simon lying on the floor.floor, his neck at an unnatural angle. Which makes everything a lot sadder and creepier.]]
**It In either case, it was [[spoiler: basically ''her'' HER fault that Simon died.]]
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*** She caused it, he was trapped in there and then he fell and died. Sudden, but still about as close to directly being her fault as possible without... actually being her fault.
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*** No, it was [[spoiler: definitely the fall that killed him - necks do NOT bend that way.]]
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** For those of you who want to know: [[spoiler: Laura finds her son from the basement...but he is dead from hypothermia and starvation after being trapped there for weeks. In her grief Laura [[DrivenToSuicide overdoses with her son's HIV medicines]] and is reunited with Simon in death, where she becomes a matron for the orphan ghosts]] Personally I always start crying when the kids say "She's grown older, just like Wendy!" (Reference to PeterPan which was their bedtime story)
** Actually [[spoiler:it is hinted that he died the very first night by falling from the stairs. Evidence of this is the broken handle and the flashback that Laura had about listening to noises through a wall; immediately after the memories fade away we see the broken stairs handle and Simon lying on the floor. Which makes everything a lot sadder and creepier.]]
** It was [[spoiler: basically ''her'' fault that Simon died.]]
** To this troper the implications were that [[spoiler:she accidentally trapped Simon in the cellar with the steel pipes, and he tore the handle off in desparation before succumbing to dehydration. She still killed him after a fashion, and his death wasn't fast. Much more horrible, that way.]]
