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* The Tinto City event. As if the pressure of leading LaResistance and FightingYourFriend wasn't enough, now [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Neclord]] returns and sets off a ZombieApocalypse. Depending on how you play this scenario out, it could prove to be the hero's [[DespairEventHorizon breaking point]] both physically and mentally, and cause an alternate GainaxEnding where he leaves the war behind entirely and lives out the rest of his days completely off the grid with the main conflict of the story never being resolved.


** That last line got another throwback in the Drama CD in [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments a different kind of]] TearJerker, namely [[spoiler:an expansion of how Flik finally joined the Liberation Army after getting pissed off that Tir replaced Odessa. Viktor ended up convincing Flik to stay because he finally put out Odessa's final message to Flik, finally calming him down and convincing himself to join the Liberation Army on his own.]]

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** That last line got another throwback in the Drama CD in [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments a different kind of]] TearJerker, namely [[spoiler:an expansion of how Flik finally joined the Liberation Army after getting pissed off that Tir replaced Odessa. Viktor ended up convincing Flik to stay because he finally put out Odessa's final message to Flik, finally calming him down and convincing himself to join the Liberation Army on his own. Adding to this is the spot-on performance of both Creator/KatsuyukiKonishi (Viktor) and Creator/YuuichiNakamura (Flik), managing to convey Viktor's regret on the tragedy and just how crushed Flik was at the reveal that his girlfriend was dead.]]


** That last line got another throwback in the Drama CD in [[HeartwarmingMoments a different kind of]] TearJerker, namely [[spoiler:an expansion of how Flik finally joined the Liberation Army after getting pissed off that Tir replaced Odessa. Viktor ended up convincing Flik to stay because he finally put out Odessa's final message to Flik, finally calming him down and convincing himself to join the Liberation Army on his own.]]

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** That last line got another throwback in the Drama CD in [[HeartwarmingMoments [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments a different kind of]] TearJerker, namely [[spoiler:an expansion of how Flik finally joined the Liberation Army after getting pissed off that Tir replaced Odessa. Viktor ended up convincing Flik to stay because he finally put out Odessa's final message to Flik, finally calming him down and convincing himself to join the Liberation Army on his own.]]

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** That last line got another throwback in the Drama CD in [[HeartwarmingMoments a different kind of]] TearJerker, namely [[spoiler:an expansion of how Flik finally joined the Liberation Army after getting pissed off that Tir replaced Odessa. Viktor ended up convincing Flik to stay because he finally put out Odessa's final message to Flik, finally calming him down and convincing himself to join the Liberation Army on his own.]]


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* Okay, so it's fairly {{Narm}}y in retrospect, but [[FTropers/FoominBlue I]] just ''broke down'' the first time I played ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenI Suikoden]]'' all those years ago and got to [[spoiler: Odessa's]] HeroicSacrifice. The later {{Player Punch}}es were just as bad, especially when it was finally made clear that [[spoiler: it's the fault of ''your'' True Rune that everyone you care about is dying. It's known as the ''Soul Eater'' for a good reason.]]
** Seconded. [[spoiler:Odessa really had a good future and looks really cool... if it wasn't for her womanly instinct to kick in the wrong time and costed her life. It's even worse that her last words were basically telling Tir that despite Flik's clingy attitude on her, she cared about him a lot.]]

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* Okay, so it's While it can be considered fairly {{Narm}}y in retrospect, but [[FTropers/FoominBlue I]] just ''broke down'' the first time I played ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenI Suikoden]]'' all those years ago and got to {{Narm}}y, [[spoiler: Odessa's]] HeroicSacrifice. [[spoiler:Odessa really had a good future and looks really cool... if it wasn't for her womanly instinct kicking in the wrong time and costing her life. It's even worse that her last words are basically telling Tir that despite Flik's clingy attitude on her, she cared about him a lot.]] The later {{Player Punch}}es were are just as bad, especially when it was is finally made clear that [[spoiler: it's the fault of ''your'' True Rune that everyone you care about is dying. It's known as the ''Soul Eater'' for a good reason.]]
** Seconded. [[spoiler:Odessa really had a good future and looks really cool... if it wasn't for her womanly instinct to kick in the wrong time and costed her life. It's even worse that her last words were basically telling Tir that despite Flik's clingy attitude on her, she cared about him a lot.
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* Bring Futch and Viki to the final battle against [[spoiler:Luc]], and it was pretty heartbreaking too when [[spoiler:Viki asks one last time if they're fighting her previous ally, and Futch told Luc that he'll never forget the times they spent as allies during two liberation wars... as much as a {{Jerkass}} Luc was both times.]]

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* Bring Bringing Futch and Viki to the final battle against [[spoiler:Luc]], and it was [[spoiler:Luc]]. It's pretty heartbreaking too when [[spoiler:Viki asks one last time if they're fighting her previous ally, and Futch told tells Luc that he'll never forget the times they spent as allies during two liberation wars... as much as a {{Jerkass}} Luc was both times.]]



* Seeing [[spoiler: Ted from VideoGame/SuikodenI]] and know his [[spoiler: reluctance to get close to anyone]].
* If you aren't [[TheScrappy cursing his stupidity]], some of [[JerkassWoobie Snowe's moments]] can be pretty depressing, like how he completely fails to get '''WHY''' everyone reacts so poorly when he's trying ''so'' hard. Highlight has to be his breakdown when he's driven out of Razril by an angry mob shooting fire arrows.

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* Seeing [[spoiler: Ted from VideoGame/SuikodenI]] and know knowing his [[spoiler: reluctance to get close to anyone]].
* If you aren't [[TheScrappy cursing his stupidity]], some of [[JerkassWoobie Snowe's moments]] can be pretty depressing, like how he completely fails to get '''WHY''' everyone reacts so poorly when he's trying ''so'' hard. Highlight has to be The highlight is his breakdown when he's driven out of Razril by an angry mob shooting fire arrows.



* Peck's history with Brandeau and then add that to their [[spoiler: demise]] in VideoGame/SuikodenIV makes quite a heavy tear-jerking moment for this troper.

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* Okay, so it's fairly {{Narm}}y in retrospect, but [[FTropers/FoominBlue I]] just ''broke down'' the first time I played ''[[SuikodenI Suikoden]]'' all those years ago and got to [[spoiler: Odessa's]] HeroicSacrifice. The later {{Player Punch}}es were just as bad, especially when it was finally made clear that [[spoiler: it's the fault of ''your'' True Rune that everyone you care about is dying. It's known as the ''Soul Eater'' for a good reason.]]

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* Okay, so it's fairly {{Narm}}y in retrospect, but [[FTropers/FoominBlue I]] just ''broke down'' the first time I played ''[[SuikodenI ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenI Suikoden]]'' all those years ago and got to [[spoiler: Odessa's]] HeroicSacrifice. The later {{Player Punch}}es were just as bad, especially when it was finally made clear that [[spoiler: it's the fault of ''your'' True Rune that everyone you care about is dying. It's known as the ''Soul Eater'' for a good reason.]]



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* Then there's the sequence in ''SuikodenIII'' where you finally catch up with the Flame Champion... [[spoiler: Or, rather, with his long-widowed wife, Sana, who explains how he sealed away the True Fire Rune and traded immortality for the chance to grow old and die with her. It's heavily implied that the strain of sealing away the Rune sapped so much of his strength that they didn't get to enjoy much of their new life together, to boot.]]

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* Then there's the sequence in ''SuikodenIII'' ''VideoGame/SuikodenIII'' where you finally catch up with the Flame Champion... [[spoiler: Or, rather, with his long-widowed wife, Sana, who explains how he sealed away the True Fire Rune and traded immortality for the chance to grow old and die with her. It's heavily implied that the strain of sealing away the Rune sapped so much of his strength that they didn't get to enjoy much of their new life together, to boot.]]



** Viki's newspaper article too. [[spoiler:During the events of SuikodenI and SuikodenII she used to get refused by Luc when she asks for picnic, only to agree in the last seconds. When even the resident [[TheDitz ditz]] used to remember that Luc used to be somewhat a mere {{Tsundere}} {{Jerkass}}... it just gets sad.]]


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** Viki's newspaper article too. [[spoiler:During the events of SuikodenI VideoGame/SuikodenI and SuikodenII VideoGame/SuikodenII she used to get refused by Luc when she asks for picnic, only to agree in the last seconds. When even the resident [[TheDitz ditz]] used to remember that Luc used to be somewhat a mere {{Tsundere}} {{Jerkass}}... it just gets sad.]]


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* Seeing [[spoiler: Ted from SuikodenI]] and know his [[spoiler: reluctance to get close to anyone]].

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* Peck's history with Brandeau and then add that to their [[spoiler: demise]] in SuikodenIV makes quite a heavy tear-jerking moment for this troper.

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* Peck's history with Brandeau and then add that to their [[spoiler: demise]] in SuikodenIV VideoGame/SuikodenIV makes quite a heavy tear-jerking moment for this troper.


* The scenes after the duel between the Tir [=McDohl=] and his [[spoiler: father]] make quite an impact.

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* The scenes after the duel between the Tir [=McDohl=] and his [[spoiler: father]] make quite an impact. And again, the Drama CD version also amps this up with the heartbreaking performance of Creator/KenichiSuzumura as Tir.


** To make this even more heartbreaking, listen to the Drama CD version. Tir spoke, and KenichiSuzumura's performance as an utterly heartbroken, desperate and helpless Tir screaming for [[spoiler:Gremio]] to just frickin' open the door is just heartbreaking.

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** To make this even more heartbreaking, listen to the Drama CD version. Tir spoke, and KenichiSuzumura's Creator/KenichiSuzumura's performance as an utterly heartbroken, desperate and helpless Tir screaming for [[spoiler:Gremio]] to just frickin' open the door is just heartbreaking.



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* Culgan and Seed's death scene.


** To make this even more heartbreaking, listen to the Drama CD version. Tir spoke, and KenichiSuzumura's performance as an utterly heartbroken, desperate and helpless Tir screaming for Gremio to just frickin' open the door is just heartbreaking.

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** To make this even more heartbreaking, listen to the Drama CD version. Tir spoke, and KenichiSuzumura's performance as an utterly heartbroken, desperate and helpless Tir screaming for Gremio [[spoiler:Gremio]] to just frickin' open the door is just heartbreaking.

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** To make this even more heartbreaking, listen to the Drama CD version. Tir spoke, and KenichiSuzumura's performance as an utterly heartbroken, desperate and helpless Tir screaming for Gremio to just frickin' open the door is just heartbreaking.

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