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* More like fridge tear jerker here, but there is only one race from the Milky Way Galaxy that is not part of the Andromeda Initiative: the batarians. Not only are they not part of the Initiative, the only mentioning that they get is an insignificant solar system named after one of their explorers. Since slavery is mentioned as being part of their culture, many would have jumped at the chance to join the Initiative to get away from that. While the krogan [[spoiler: and possibly the quarians]] will get a second chance in Andromeda, the batarians are most likely doomed, regardless of whether or not Shepard succeeded in stopping the Reapers, since they almost completely wiped out in the beginning of the Reaper invasion.

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* More like fridge tear jerker here, but there is only one race from the Milky Way Galaxy that is not part of the Andromeda Initiative: the batarians. Not only are they not part of the Initiative, the only mentioning that they get is an insignificant solar system named after one of their explorers. Since slavery is mentioned as being part of their culture, many would have jumped at the chance to join the Initiative to get away from that. While the krogan [[spoiler: and possibly the quarians]] will get a second chance in Andromeda, the batarians are most likely doomed, regardless of whether or not Shepard succeeded in stopping the Reapers, since they were almost completely wiped out in the beginning of the Reaper invasion.
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* What happens to Danny Messer. Initially a bright-eyed defrostee, ready and willing to take on Eos, he's attacked by everything the planet throws at him; the bugs, the Remnant, the kett. Eventually, he decides he's fed up of it, and transfers to Kadara. It's eventually possible to find him at The Paradise on Elaaden, completely drunk.

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* What happens to Danny Messer. Initially a bright-eyed defrostee, ready and willing to take on Eos, he's attacked by everything the planet throws at him; the bugs, the Remnant, the kett. Eventually, he decides he's fed up of it, and transfers to Kadara. It's eventually possible to find him at The Paradise on Elaaden, completely drunk.drunk.
* More like fridge tear jerker here, but there is only one race from the Milky Way Galaxy that is not part of the Andromeda Initiative: the batarians. Not only are they not part of the Initiative, the only mentioning that they get is an insignificant solar system named after one of their explorers. Since slavery is mentioned as being part of their culture, many would have jumped at the chance to join the Initiative to get away from that. While the krogan [[spoiler: and possibly the quarians]] will get a second chance in Andromeda, the batarians are most likely doomed, regardless of whether or not Shepard succeeded in stopping the Reapers, since they almost completely wiped out in the beginning of the Reaper invasion.
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-->''Mommy says I have to be brave. I don't want to be brave I want to be a farmer'' (sic)

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-->''Mommy says I have to be brave. I don't want to be brave I want to be a farmer'' (sic)(sic)
* What happens to Danny Messer. Initially a bright-eyed defrostee, ready and willing to take on Eos, he's attacked by everything the planet throws at him; the bugs, the Remnant, the kett. Eventually, he decides he's fed up of it, and transfers to Kadara. It's eventually possible to find him at The Paradise on Elaaden, completely drunk.
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post-release downsizing is normal and Kotaku is notorious for clickbait. take the hiatus claims with a large grain of salt.


-->''Mommy says I have to be brave. I don't want to be brave I want to be a farmer'' (sic)
* In a meta sense: The sudden news that EA has frozen the series and downgraded the team to a support role is a ''crushing'' blow for fans, since it means that there will not likely to be any new content in the forseeable future. Compounding that is that literally the day before, the team [[HopeSpot rolled out a new patch]] that fixed a lot of gameplay issues AND added a much-requested new weapon to the single and multiplayer, and left a lot of fans hopeful that DLC would be announced soon.

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-->''Mommy says I have to be brave. I don't want to be brave I want to be a farmer'' (sic)
* In a meta sense: The sudden news that EA has frozen the series and downgraded the team to a support role is a ''crushing'' blow for fans, since it means that there will not likely to be any new content in the forseeable future. Compounding that is that literally the day before, the team [[HopeSpot rolled out a new patch]] that fixed a lot of gameplay issues AND added a much-requested new weapon to the single and multiplayer, and left a lot of fans hopeful that DLC would be announced soon.
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* Exploring the asari ark, it's possible to find a datapad scribbled by a child, who's too young to even understand what's going on.
-->''Mommy says I have to be brave. I don't want to be brave I want to be a farmer'' (sic)
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** It can get worse: She's nothing but friendly towards Ryder, aside from when what happens to her sisters comes up. If you manage to screw up looking for evidence on Knight's deeds (which takes some doing), she along with the others in the room ''will'' turn on Ryder and cannot be talked down. It's enough to make you feel like an utter bastard for having screwed up so badly.

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** It can get worse: She's nothing but friendly towards Ryder, aside from when what happens to her sisters comes up. If you manage to screw up looking for evidence on Knight's deeds (which takes some doing), she along with the others in the room ''will'' turn on Ryder and cannot be talked down. It's enough to make you feel like an utter bastard for having screwed up so badly.badly.
* In a meta sense: The sudden news that EA has frozen the series and downgraded the team to a support role is a ''crushing'' blow for fans, since it means that there will not likely to be any new content in the forseeable future. Compounding that is that literally the day before, the team [[HopeSpot rolled out a new patch]] that fixed a lot of gameplay issues AND added a much-requested new weapon to the single and multiplayer, and left a lot of fans hopeful that DLC would be announced soon.
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* You can talk to a young turian woman who is a part of an anti-AI group and find that her reason for hating AI is absolutely heartbreaking. She used to live on the citadel with her two young sisters when the geth attacked and the little girls were found [[AdultFear impaled together on a geth spike while they walked to school.]] You'd have to be heartless to blame her for hating all AI after hearing that.

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* You can talk to a young turian woman who is a part of an anti-AI group and find that her reason for hating AI is absolutely heartbreaking. She used to live on the citadel with her two young sisters when the geth attacked and the little girls were found [[AdultFear impaled together on a geth spike while they walked to school.]] You'd have to be heartless to blame her for hating all AI after hearing that.that.
** It can get worse: She's nothing but friendly towards Ryder, aside from when what happens to her sisters comes up. If you manage to screw up looking for evidence on Knight's deeds (which takes some doing), she along with the others in the room ''will'' turn on Ryder and cannot be talked down. It's enough to make you feel like an utter bastard for having screwed up so badly.
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** If Vetra and Peebee are on the Nomad together, Vetra will admit that she's bothered by some of Peebee's tales of her wild and rebellious youth, since Vetra didn't get to have any sort of fun in her childhood.

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** If Vetra and Peebee are on the Nomad together, Vetra will admit that she's bothered by some of Peebee's tales of her wild and rebellious youth, since Vetra didn't get to have any sort of fun in her childhood.childhood.
* You can talk to a young turian woman who is a part of an anti-AI group and find that her reason for hating AI is absolutely heartbreaking. She used to live on the citadel with her two young sisters when the geth attacked and the little girls were found [[AdultFear impaled together on a geth spike while they walked to school.]] You'd have to be heartless to blame her for hating all AI after hearing that.
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* The entire plight of the angara, on Voeld and in general. [[spoiler: They don't remember a time without way against the Kett and they've lost all their historical records and stories except for a handful of stories and myths. They don't even know how first contact with the Kett went. Voeld's missions are filled with sacrifice, massacres, loss, vengeance and desperation. And thats before you consider what the Kett actually are.]]

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* The entire plight of the angara, on Voeld and in general. [[spoiler: They don't remember a time without way war against the Kett and they've lost all their culture and historical records and stories except for a handful of stories and myths. They don't even know how first contact with the Kett went. Voeld's missions are filled with sacrifice, massacres, loss, vengeance and desperation. And thats before you consider what the Kett actually are.]]

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* During your trip around Elaaden, you will eventually come upon an anomaly which is a clue to [spoiler] the Turian Arc's situation. Unfortunately it comes in the form of several jettisoned stasis pods which you have the scan. Each contains their own sad story of Turians who died never seeing the galaxy they had finally reached. You get to discover one Turian with cardiac problems who insisted on taking the journey anyway but died from said health problems being triggered by the arcs emergency, an old man, a female turian who went into a coma in her pod and [i]starved[/i] to death and even a dead Turian child. The game then twists the knife by letting you find one pod that is still active, only to discover that the inhabitant is dead inside just like the others.[/spoiler]

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* During your trip around Elaaden, you will eventually come upon an anomaly which is a clue to [spoiler] [[spoiler: the Turian Arc's situation. Unfortunately it comes in the form of several jettisoned Turian stasis pods which you have the to scan. Each one contains their its own sad story of Turians a turian who died never without ever seeing the galaxy they had finally reached. You get to discover one Turian with cardiac problems who insisted on taking the journey anyway but then died in his pod from said health problems being triggered by issues during the arcs emergency, an old man, man who wanted to see a new galaxy before dying (just like Drack), a female turian who went into a coma in her pod and [i]starved[/i] then[i]starved[/i] to death and even a dead Turian child. The game then twists the knife further by letting you find one pod that is still active, only to discover that the inhabitant is dead inside just like the others.[/spoiler]]]
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* During your trip around Elaaden, you will eventually come upon an anomaly which is a clue to [spoiler] the Turian Arc's situation. Unfortunately it comes in the form of several jettisoned stasis pods which you have the scan. Each contains their own sad story of Turians who died never seeing the galaxy they had finally reached. You get to discover one Turian with cardiac problems who insisted on taking the journey anyway but died from said health problems being triggered by the arcs emergency, an old man, a female turian who went into a coma in her pod and [i]starved[/i] to death and even a dead Turian child. The game then twists the knife by letting you find one pod that is still active, only to discover that the inhabitant is dead inside just like the others.[/spoiler]

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* Avitus Rix holds on to the hope Pathfinder Macen is still alive because he's second in the succession and had Macen died, the Turian SAM would've passed to him. He is also Macen's lover. It turns out Macen IS dead - he died as SAM was transferring to Avitus. Which broke SAM and halted the process. Avitus is freaked out to discover this, unwilling to take SAM over without Ryder convincing him that it's what Macen wanted.

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* Avitus Rix holds on to the hope Pathfinder Macen is still alive because he's second in the succession and had Macen died, the Turian SAM would've passed to him. It becomes clear on your mission to find Macen that he and Avitus were more than just friends, with Avitus becoming increasingly upset the longer they go without finding the Turian pathfinder. Even once [[spoiler: the turian SAM explains that Macen did in fact die, Avitus initially refuses to believe it. He is also has to be convinced that he's capable and won't let Macen down before he even agrees to be the new Turian pathfinder.]]
** Even worse yet, if [[spoiler: Ryder fails to convince Avitus to become pathfinder he'll end up as a drunken merc on Kadara.]]
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Macen's lover. It turns out Macen IS dead - he died as SAM was transferring to Avitus. Which broke SAM audio logs show him being in absolute awe and halted wonder at the process. Avitus new galaxy even while [[spoiler: he's dying.]]
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is freaked out to discover this, unwilling to take SAM in the party during the Kett facility mission on Voeld [[spoiler: he completely breaks down after learning of the origins of the Kett, lamenting his regret over how many Kett he killed without Ryder convincing him that it's what Macen wanted.knowing they all might have been Angara once.]]
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* Bring Jaal along on the mission to [[spoiler:what Ryder thinks is Meridian, and he gets a unique cutscene on learning about the angaran origin, where he goes right to the verge of a HeroicBSOD. He doesn't succumb, but he's definitely in a state of shock, even feeling the need to try and get in touch with the Moshae for support.]]

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* Bring Jaal along on the mission to [[spoiler:what Ryder thinks is Meridian, and he gets a unique cutscene on learning about the angaran origin, where he goes right to the verge of a HeroicBSOD. He doesn't succumb, but he's definitely in a state of shock, even feeling the need to try and get in touch with the Moshae for support.]]]]
* Vetra's backstory. Her parents broke up when she and Sid were very young, and they ended up with their father, who disappeared a few years later. As a result, Vetra had to work through her youth just to keep Sid alive and provided for.
** If Vetra and Peebee are on the Nomad together, Vetra will admit that she's bothered by some of Peebee's tales of her wild and rebellious youth, since Vetra didn't get to have any sort of fun in her childhood.
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* Bit of a Fridge Tearjerker, but the Quarians that joined the Initiative not only gave up on the idea of ever seeing their homeworld again, but they left just years before Rannoch was reclaimed from the geth. [[spoiler: Or they missed the extermination of their people by the geth, and the whole Reaper war, so might be a push.]]

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* Bit of a Fridge Tearjerker, but the Quarians that joined the Initiative not only gave up on the idea of ever seeing their homeworld again, but they left just years before Rannoch was reclaimed from the geth. [[spoiler: Or they missed the extermination of their people by the geth, and the whole Reaper war, so might be a push.]]
* Bring Jaal along on the mission to [[spoiler:what Ryder thinks is Meridian, and he gets a unique cutscene on learning about the angaran origin, where he goes right to the verge of a HeroicBSOD. He doesn't succumb, but he's definitely in a state of shock, even feeling the need to try and get in touch with the Moshae for support.
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** Drack's medical exam is very bleak, with Lexi and Drack both holding back their feelings as the severity of Drack's health is made very clear. His story afterwards is both this and heartwarming, explaining how he had all but given up due to his injuries before a shaman dropped a baby girl in his lap and told him she was 'weak, dying and useless'. Drack makes it clear that he's now made his peace with his failing health, [[BabiesMakeEverythingBetter knowing that he found the strength to help turn that baby girl into someone he's truly proud of]].
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* There's a somewhat minor moment in a bit of banter with Vetra and Peebee suggesting that Vetra [[ShellShockedVeteran might be developing PTSD.]] Considering everything she's had to do just to keep herself and Sid alive on top of the horrors Andromeda has brought it's not all that surprising, but hearing the normally confident and tough Vetra sound so utterly terrified is rather hard on the heart.
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** And it only gets worse later in the story with the revelation that [[spoiler: the angara aren't a natural race native to the Heleus Cluster and were created by the Jardaan. Ryder and Jaal can worry that this revelation will do enormous damage to angaran morale and culture, though Jaal at least finds the discovery liberating and giving the angara the freedom to choose their own fate.]]
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--> '''Ryder''': Respect on deck.

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--> '''Ryder''': Respect on deck.deck.
* Bit of a Fridge Tearjerker, but the Quarians that joined the Initiative not only gave up on the idea of ever seeing their homeworld again, but they left just years before Rannoch was reclaimed from the geth. [[spoiler: Or they missed the extermination of their people by the geth, and the whole Reaper war, so might be a push.]]
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** Between conversations you can have with the Moshae and the few angara on Aya who remember first contact with the Kett, it gets even more depressing. These are an open, emotional people, who were excited to make first contact, particularly after the damage done to their culture and worlds by the Scourge. [[WeComeInPeaceShootToKill The Kett lulled them into a false sense of security and trust before turning on them.]] Now imagine how amazing it would have been if the Initiative could have arrived and met the angara without that betrayal souring things. [[spoiler: Of course, the outlaws on Kadara might have ruined it for us anyway.]]

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** Between conversations you can have with the Moshae and the few angara on Aya who remember first contact with the Kett, it gets even more depressing. These are an open, emotional people, who were excited to make first contact, particularly after the damage done to their culture and worlds by the Scourge. [[WeComeInPeaceShootToKill The Kett lulled them into a false sense of security and trust before turning on them.]] Now imagine how amazing it would have been if the Initiative could have arrived and met the angara without that betrayal souring things. [[spoiler: Of course, the outlaws on Kadara might have ruined it for us anyway.]]]]
* Should the Hyperion's captain, Nozomi Dunn, die during the final mission, her remains will be committed to the stars. You can later find her coffin as a new anomaly in the Govorkam system, floating toward the cluster's central black hole. Ryder has a choice of solemn comments upon investigating it.
--> '''Ryder''': Ride in peace, captain.
--> '''Ryder''': Respect on deck.

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adding the second point; it's early game exposition from jaal, so I don't think I need to spoiler tag it?


* The entire plight of the [[spoiler: Angaran's on Voeld and in general. They don't remember a time without way against the Kett and they've lost all their historical records and stories except for a handful of stories and myths. They don't even know how first contact with the Kett went. Voeld's missions are filled with sacrifice, massacres, loss, vengeance and desperation. And thats before you consider what the Kett actually are.]]

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* The entire plight of the [[spoiler: Angaran's angara, on Voeld and in general. [[spoiler: They don't remember a time without way against the Kett and they've lost all their historical records and stories except for a handful of stories and myths. They don't even know how first contact with the Kett went. Voeld's missions are filled with sacrifice, massacres, loss, vengeance and desperation. And thats before you consider what the Kett actually are.]]
** Between conversations you can have with the Moshae and the few angara on Aya who remember first contact with the Kett, it gets even more depressing. These are an open, emotional people, who were excited to make first contact, particularly after the damage done to their culture and worlds by the Scourge. [[WeComeInPeaceShootToKill The Kett lulled them into a false sense of security and trust before turning on them.]] Now imagine how amazing it would have been if the Initiative could have arrived and met the angara without that betrayal souring things. [[spoiler: Of course, the outlaws on Kadara might have ruined it for us anyway.
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* The entire plight of the [[spoiler: Angaran's on Voeld and in general. They don't remember a time without way against the Kett and they've lost all their historical records and stories except for a handful of stories and myths. They don't even know how first contact with the Kett went. Voeld's missions are filled with sacrifice, massacres, loss, vengeance and desperation. And thats before you consider the FridgeLogic behind what the Kett actually are.]]

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* The entire plight of the [[spoiler: Angaran's on Voeld and in general. They don't remember a time without way against the Kett and they've lost all their historical records and stories except for a handful of stories and myths. They don't even know how first contact with the Kett went. Voeld's missions are filled with sacrifice, massacres, loss, vengeance and desperation. And thats before you consider the FridgeLogic behind what the Kett actually are.]]
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-->'''Peebee:''' ''(audibly tearful)'' Let's... go shoot many things.

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-->'''Peebee:''' ''(audibly tearful)'' Let's... go shoot many things.things.
* The entire plight of the [[spoiler: Angaran's on Voeld and in general. They don't remember a time without way against the Kett and they've lost all their historical records and stories except for a handful of stories and myths. They don't even know how first contact with the Kett went. Voeld's missions are filled with sacrifice, massacres, loss, vengeance and desperation. And thats before you consider the FridgeLogic behind what the Kett actually are.]]
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* The last audio log unlocked on Alec Ryder's computer. [[spoiler: There's a series of transmissions sent from the Milky Way during the Reaper invasion. One of them is from Liara, who says she's with a brave crew trying to find a weapon that will help them defeat the Reapers, but if they don't, to remember them and tell the Andromeda settlers about the Milky Way and what they were. Then she signs off, on behalf of the Normandy SR-2.]]

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* The last audio log unlocked on Alec Ryder's computer. [[spoiler: There's a series of transmissions sent from the Milky Way during the Reaper invasion. One of them is from Liara, who says she's with a brave crew trying to find a weapon that will help them defeat the Reapers, but if they don't, to remember them and tell the Andromeda settlers about the Milky Way and what they were. Then she signs off, on behalf of the Normandy SR-2.]]]]
* One of the side missions on Eos has Ryder placing survey beacons around the area, in lieu of the technician who was killed by kett. Every beacon placed has a little recording from her daughter, who says she's sick, and he's in the future, essentially confirming that he had to leave his daughter behind.
-->'''E.J.R Recording:''' Job's done, Dad. Keep going and move on. I'm watching. And I'm proud.
-->'''Peebee:''' ''(audibly tearful)'' Let's... go shoot many things.
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* The first team meeting after colonizing Eos. Rider's inexperience clearly shows, and Cora is the only one who actually acknowledges their authority. It's clear they're insecure.

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* The first team meeting after colonizing Eos. Rider's inexperience clearly shows, and Cora is the only one who actually acknowledges their authority. It's clear they're insecure.insecure.
* The last audio log unlocked on Alec Ryder's computer. [[spoiler: There's a series of transmissions sent from the Milky Way during the Reaper invasion. One of them is from Liara, who says she's with a brave crew trying to find a weapon that will help them defeat the Reapers, but if they don't, to remember them and tell the Andromeda settlers about the Milky Way and what they were. Then she signs off, on behalf of the Normandy SR-2.]]
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* The first team meeting after colonizing Eos. Rider's inexperience clearly shows, and Cora is the only one who actually acknowledges teir authority. It's clear they're insecure.

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* The first team meeting after colonizing Eos. Rider's inexperience clearly shows, and Cora is the only one who actually acknowledges teir their authority. It's clear they're insecure.
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* Avitus Rix holds on to the hope Pathfinder Macen is still alive because he's second in the succession and had Macen died, the Turian SAM would've passed to him. He is also Macen's lover. It turns out Macen IS dead - he died as SAM was transferring to Avitus. Which broke SAM and halted the process. Avitus is freaked out to discover this, unwilling to take SAM over without Ryder convincing him that it's what Macen wanted.

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* Avitus Rix holds on to the hope Pathfinder Macen is still alive because he's second in the succession and had Macen died, the Turian SAM would've passed to him. He is also Macen's lover. It turns out Macen IS dead - he died as SAM was transferring to Avitus. Which broke SAM and halted the process. Avitus is freaked out to discover this, unwilling to take SAM over without Ryder convincing him that it's what Macen wanted.wanted.
* The first team meeting after colonizing Eos. Rider's inexperience clearly shows, and Cora is the only one who actually acknowledges teir authority. It's clear they're insecure.
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* Avitus Rix holds on to the hope Pathfinder Macen is still alive because he's second in the succession and had Macen died, the Turian SAM would've passed to him. He is also Macen's lover. It turns out Macen IS dead - he died as SAM was transferring to Avitus.

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* Avitus Rix holds on to the hope Pathfinder Macen is still alive because he's second in the succession and had Macen died, the Turian SAM would've passed to him. He is also Macen's lover. It turns out Macen IS dead - he died as SAM was transferring to Avitus. Which broke SAM and halted the process. Avitus is freaked out to discover this, unwilling to take SAM over without Ryder convincing him that it's what Macen wanted.
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%%* Alright boys and girls... who wants to add in what ways the Hellus cluster, and by extension the Andromada galaxy itself is so depressing?

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%%* Alright boys and girls... who wants to add in what ways the Hellus cluster, and by extension the Andromada galaxy itself is so depressing?depressing?
* Avitus Rix holds on to the hope Pathfinder Macen is still alive because he's second in the succession and had Macen died, the Turian SAM would've passed to him. He is also Macen's lover. It turns out Macen IS dead - he died as SAM was transferring to Avitus.
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** Vetra will try to ask Drack about it if they're in the Nomad together eventually, and Drack will tell her to shut up about it because it hurts so much. Vetra then responds that she didn't expect a Krogan to be so touchy about a combat scenario.
---> Drack: "Who said anything about it being related to combat? Some wounds hurt more than a battle."
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*** Speaking of the mutation, the Nakmor clan was aware of it, and underwent gene therapy to enhance it. It worked! They improved the birth rate from one in a thousand... to four in a hundred.

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