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** And later, looking on as Johnny bonds with Miguel.

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** And later, looking on as Johnny bonds with Miguel.Miguel (which makes Daniel's bond with Robby that much deeper of a cut).
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* Robby sinking into the couch, watching TV with headphones on while his mother takes another one-night stand into the bedroom--after his mother cancelled plans with him to go and pick up.
** And later, looking on as Johnny bonds with Miguel.
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-->"I know there's no do-overs, but that kid... he's the only person in the world who hasn't given up on me. And I don't want to give up on him."

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-->"I --->"I know there's no do-overs, but that kid... he's the only person in the world who hasn't given up on me. And I don't want to give up on him."
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** Carmen's reaction to seeing [[AdultFear Miguel, her son, bloody and and beaten, being carried home by to her a complete stranger]]. Her terror and rage is heart-wrenching to any parent. Johnny's look and tone of remorse in many ways shows he knows it is partially, if not mainly, his fault.

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** Carmen's reaction to seeing [[AdultFear Miguel, her son, bloody and and beaten, being carried home by to her a complete stranger]].stranger to her]]. Her terror and rage is heart-wrenching to any parent. Johnny's look and tone of remorse in many ways shows show he knows it is partially, if not mainly, his fault.



* Johnny's argument with his ex-wife Shannon gives away just how much the two have come to loathe each other, with some truly mean comments made by both parties. What is even worse is at this point, Robby's life is going downhill, and Johnny is desperate to get his mother to intervene, but to no avail. Shannon has truly given up -- on ''both'' of them.

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* Johnny's argument with his ex-wife Shannon gives away just how much the two have come to loathe each other, with some truly mean comments made by both parties. What is even worse is at this point, Robby's life is going downhill, and Johnny is desperate to get his mother to intervene, intervene but to no avail. Shannon has truly given up -- on ''both'' of them.
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* During the locker room scene where Daniel explains to Robby how messed up Johnny is due to Kreese's influence, it cuts to Johnny walking down the arena hallway and coming across a picture of the man. Johnny just stares at it and the audience can see his sorrowful expression reflected in the frame as he realizes he's unwittingly become the same kind of teacher he was.
-->"Mr. Miyagi always told me there was no such thing as a bad student, only a bad teacher. And your dad had the worst teacher there ever was."
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** During his half-drunken ride to the All Valley Arena, fans may at first wonder why he's ''still'' playing that old tape in his head so many years later. Then he gets there, and starts thinking back on how Kreese ripped his trophy apart, called him a loser, and physically attacked him in front of his friends. Seeing it from an outsider's perspective at the start of ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'', most viewers probably just thought "Man, that kid's sensei is a real jerk." and forgot about it once the story got going. From Johnny's perspective, though, this came from the only other adult in his life (apart from his mother) who saw any value in him and that he could look up to. That betrayal cut him ''deep'', and even after all that time the memory is still painful to him.

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** During his half-drunken ride to the All Valley Arena, fans may at first wonder why he's ''still'' playing that old tape in his head so many years later. Then he gets there, and starts thinking back on how Kreese ripped his trophy apart, called him a loser, and physically attacked him in front of his friends. Seeing it from an outsider's perspective at the start of ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'', most viewers probably just thought "Man, that kid's sensei is a real jerk." and forgot about it once the story got going. From Johnny's perspective, though, this came from the only other adult in his life (apart from his mother) who saw any value in him and that he could look up to. That betrayal cut him ''deep'', and even after all that time the memory is still very painful to him.



* Johnny's whole relationship with Robby. The series opens with a wide chasm between father and son, and their relationship never gets repaired. Despite how Johnny manages to turn his life around, Daniel still all but replaces him as Robby's father figure, and that clearly hurts him even worse than a Crane Kick to the face.

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* Johnny's whole relationship with Robby. The series opens with a wide chasm between father and son, and their relationship never gets repaired. Despite how Johnny manages to turn his life around, Daniel still all but replaces him as Robby's father figure, and that clearly hurts him even worse than a Crane Kick to the face.face (but there is some hope by the end of Season 1, thanks to Daniel's positive influence).



-->"I know there's no do-overs, but that kid... is the only person in the world who hasn't given up on me. And I don't want to give up on him."

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-->"I know there's no do-overs, but that kid... is he's the only person in the world who hasn't given up on me. And I don't want to give up on him."
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-->"I know there's no do-overs, but that kid... is the only person in the world who has never given up on me. And I don't want to give up on him."

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-->"I know there's no do-overs, but that kid... is the only person in the world who has never hasn't given up on me. And I don't want to give up on him."
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** On a more gently sad note, there's that half-wistful, half-regretful look on Johnny's face when he sees a father bonding with his young son in a diner. It reminds him of the sort of father he should have been for Robby all along, and motivates him to make a heartfelt appeal to Miguel's mother to let him resume training.
-->"I know there's no do-overs, but that kid... is only person in the world who has never given up on me. And I don't want to give up on him."

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** On a more gently sad note, there's that half-wistful, half-regretful look on Johnny's face when he sees a father man bonding with his young son in a diner. It reminds him of the sort of loving father he should could --and ''should''-- have been for Robby all along, and motivates him to make a heartfelt appeal to Miguel's mother to let him resume training.
-->"I know there's no do-overs, but that kid... is the only person in the world who has never given up on me. And I don't want to give up on him."
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** On a more gently sad note, there's that half-wistful, half-regretful look on Johnny's face when he sees a father bonding with his young son in a diner. It reminds him of the sort of father he should have been for Robby all along, and motivates him to make a heartfelt appeal to Miguel's mother to let him resume training.
-->"I know there's no do-overs, but that kid... is only person in the world who has never given up on me. And I don't want to give up on him."
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** During his half-drunken ride to the All Valley Arena, fans may at first wonder why he's ''still'' playing that old tape in his head so many years later. Then he gets there, and starts thinking back on how Kreese ripped his trophy apart, called him a loser, and physically attacked him in front of his friends. Seeing it from an outsider's perspective at the start of ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'', most viewers probably just thought "Man, that kid's sensei is a real jerk." and forgot about it once the story got going. From Johnny's perspective, though, this came from the only other adult in his life (apart from his mother) who saw any value in him and that he could look up to. That betrayal cut him deep, and it still hurts even after all that time.

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** During his half-drunken ride to the All Valley Arena, fans may at first wonder why he's ''still'' playing that old tape in his head so many years later. Then he gets there, and starts thinking back on how Kreese ripped his trophy apart, called him a loser, and physically attacked him in front of his friends. Seeing it from an outsider's perspective at the start of ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'', most viewers probably just thought "Man, that kid's sensei is a real jerk." and forgot about it once the story got going. From Johnny's perspective, though, this came from the only other adult in his life (apart from his mother) who saw any value in him and that he could look up to. That betrayal cut him deep, ''deep'', and it still hurts even after all that time.time the memory is still painful to him.
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** During his half-drunken ride to the All Valley Arena, fans may at first wonder why he's ''still'' playing that old tape in his head so many years later. Then he gets there, and starts thinking back on how Kreese ripped his trophy apart, called him a loser, and physically attacked him in front of his friends. Seeing it from an outsider's perspective at the start of ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'', most viewers probably just thought "Man, that kid's sensei is a real jerk." From Johnny's perspective, this came from the only other adult in his life who saw any value in him and that he could look up to, and that betrayal cut him very deeply.

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** During his half-drunken ride to the All Valley Arena, fans may at first wonder why he's ''still'' playing that old tape in his head so many years later. Then he gets there, and starts thinking back on how Kreese ripped his trophy apart, called him a loser, and physically attacked him in front of his friends. Seeing it from an outsider's perspective at the start of ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'', most viewers probably just thought "Man, that kid's sensei is a real jerk." and forgot about it once the story got going. From Johnny's perspective, though, this came from the only other adult in his life (apart from his mother) who saw any value in him and that he could look up to, and that to. That betrayal cut him very deeply.deep, and it still hurts even after all that time.
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** During his half-drunken ride to the All Valley Arena, fans may at first wonder why he's ''still'' playing that old tape in his head so many years later. Then he gets there, and starts thinking back on how Kreese ripped his trophy apart, called him a loser, and physically attacked him in front of his friends. Seeing it from an outsider's perspective at the start of ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'', most viewers probably just thought "Man, that kid's sensei is a real jerk." From Johnny's perspective, this came from the only other adult in his life who saw any value in him and that he could look up to, and that betrayal cut him very deeply.
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**[[EmergingFromTheShadows Kreese's return]] doesn't help matters, either.
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* Daniel gets a big one in Episode 5, "Counterbalance", after getting a [[WhatTheHellHero well-deserved tongue-lashing]] from his wife over his actions in trying to run Johnny out of business. Realizing he's in the wrong for the first time drives him to the one place he can find his center - Mr. Miyagi's grave. After a bit of self-reflection while [[CallBack trimming the Bonsai at the grave]], Daniel remembers Miyagi's definition of what Karate is and should be - balance in every aspect of life, not just in fighting - and he immediately heads home, digs out his old headband and gi, and begins practicing a kata [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome as the theme from the end of the second film plays triumphantly in the background]] as the episode ends.
** And the episode's end seals it - just before the credits we see a picture of Daniel and Miyagi with the caption [[TheCharacterDiedWithHim "In Loving Memory, Noriyuki "Pat" Morita 1932-2005"]]
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* Johnny's argument with his ex wife Shannon gives away just how much the two have come to loath each other, with some truly mean comments made by both parties. What is even worse is at this point, Robby's life is crashing downhill, and Johnny is desperate to get his mother to intervene, to no avail; Shannon has truly given up. The worst part is that it is Robby that will pay the price for this.
* The flashback to when Johnny discovers the Cobra Kai dojo and asks his mom and Sid if he can take lessons. Johnny's mom is all for it and has a big grin on her face as he excitedly tells her everything he saw at the dojo. Sid on the other hand mocks Johnny's desire to learn karate and tells him that it'll just be waste of time and money. Johnny's mom tries defending the idea but Sid just yells at her and keeps insulting Johnny. The verbal abuse and fighting eventually becomes too much for Johnny to handle and he turns on his cassette player and headphones so he can tune it out with music.

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* Johnny's argument with his ex wife ex-wife Shannon gives away just how much the two have come to loath loathe each other, with some truly mean comments made by both parties. What is even worse is at this point, Robby's life is crashing going downhill, and Johnny is desperate to get his mother to intervene, but to no avail; avail. Shannon has truly given up. The worst part is that it is Robby that will pay the price for this.up -- on ''both'' of them.
* The flashback to when young Johnny discovers the Cobra Kai dojo and asks his mom and Sid parents if he can take lessons. Johnny's mom is all for it and has a big grin on her face as he excitedly tells her everything all the awesome things he saw at the dojo. Sid Sid, on the other hand hand, mocks Johnny's desire to learn karate and tells him states that it'll just be a waste of time and money. Johnny's mom tries defending to defend the idea idea, but Sid just yells at her and keeps insulting Johnny. The verbal abuse and fighting eventually bickering becomes too much for Johnny to handle handle, and he turns on his cassette player and headphones so he can tune it out with music.out.



* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left. Even after everything that has happened, he still has feelings for her and despite his StartOfDarkness, realizes what the path he's going down has ''already'' cost him.
* Sam's reaction toward Miguel's chilling declaration that he'll beat down Robby in the finals; she immediately goes to her mom to leave, since she can't watch her newly minted ex-boyfriend beat up another friend of hers out of jealousy.

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* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left. Even after everything that has happened, he still has feelings for her -- and despite his StartOfDarkness, he now realizes what [[StartOfDarkness the path he's going down down]] has ''already'' cost him.
* Sam's reaction toward Miguel's chilling declaration that he'll beat down Robby in the finals; finals -- she immediately goes to her mom to leave, since as she can't watch her newly minted ex-boyfriend beat up another friend of hers out of jealousy.
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* Johnny's argument with his ex wife Shannon gives away just how much the two have come to loath each other, with some truly mean comments made by both parties. What is even worse is at this point, Robby's life is crashing downhill, and Johnny is desperate to get his mother to intervene, to no avail; Shannon has truly given up. The worst part is that it is Robby that will pay the price for this.
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* The flashback to when Johnny discovers the Cobra Kai dojo and asks his mom and Sid if he can take lessons. Johnny's mom is all for it and has a big grin on her face as he excitedly tells her everything he saw at the dojo. Sid on the other hand mocks Johnny's desire to learn karate and tells him that it'll just be waste of time and money. Johnny's mom tries defending the idea but Sid just yells at her and keeps insulting Johnny. The verbal abuse and fighting eventually becomes too much for Johnny to handle and he turns on his cassette player and headphones so he can tune it out with music.
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* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left. Even after everything that has happened, he still has feelings for her and despite his StartOfDarkness, regrets hitting her.
* Sam's reaction toward Miguel's chilling declaration that he'll beat down Robby in the finals; she immediately goes to her mom to leave, since she can't watch her recently made ex-boyfriend beat up another friend of hers out of jealousy.

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* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left. Even after everything that has happened, he still has feelings for her and despite his StartOfDarkness, regrets hitting her.
realizes what the path he's going down has ''already'' cost him.
* Sam's reaction toward Miguel's chilling declaration that he'll beat down Robby in the finals; she immediately goes to her mom to leave, since she can't watch her recently made newly minted ex-boyfriend beat up another friend of hers out of jealousy.
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* Johnny's downward spiral after that fateful Crane Kick to the face. In that instant, not only did he lose the respect of perhaps the only reliable father figure he had, he discovered he had nothing else to rely on. Sadly, this is all too often TruthinTelevision for people who peak in high school.

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* Johnny's downward spiral after that fateful Crane Kick to the face. In that instant, not only did he lose the respect of perhaps the only reliable father figure he had, he discovered he had nothing else to rely on. Sadly, this is all too often TruthinTelevision TruthInTelevision for people who peak in high school.
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* Johnny's downward spiral after that fateful Crane Kick to the face. In that instant, not only did he lose the respect of perhaps the only reliable father figure he had, he discovered he had nothing else to rely on. Sadly, this is all too often TruthinTelevision for people who peak in high school.
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* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left. Even after everything that has happened, he still has feelings for her and despite his StartofDarkness, regrets hitting her.

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* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left. Even after everything that has happened, he still has feelings for her and despite his StartofDarkness, StartOfDarkness, regrets hitting her.
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* * Carmen's reaction to seeing [[ AdultFear Miguel, her son, bloody and and beaten, being carried home by to her a complete stranger]]. Her terror and rage is heart-wrenching to any parent. Johnny's look of remorse in many ways shows he knows it is partially his fault.

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* * ** Carmen's reaction to seeing [[ AdultFear [[AdultFear Miguel, her son, bloody and and beaten, being carried home by to her a complete stranger]]. Her terror and rage is heart-wrenching to any parent. Johnny's look and tone of remorse in many ways shows he knows it is partially partially, if not mainly, his fault.
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* * Carmen's reaction to seeing [[ AdultFear Miguel, her son, bloody and and beaten, being carried home by to her a complete stranger]]. Her terror and rage is heart-wrenching to any parent. Johnny's look of remorse in many ways shows he knows it is partially his fault.
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* Johnny has a sorrowful LittleNo of despair when Miguel gets ready to win the tournament by once again ruthlessly targeting Robby's shoulder, cementing Johnny's failure to avoid repeating the past and once more injuring Johnny's own son. In fact, the whole scene plays off as an [[HeroicBSOD antiheroic breakdown]] as Johnny finds he can't celebrate his dojo's victory thanks to their dirty deeds and his failures, can't reconcile with his son while simultaneously discovering that [[TheRival Daniel]] is being a better father figure to him, and gets struck silent when Daniel sarcastically congratulates him on getting [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor what he always wanted it.]] It's no wonder he's next seen DrowningMySorrows.

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* Johnny has a sorrowful LittleNo of despair when Miguel gets ready to win the tournament by once again ruthlessly targeting Robby's shoulder, cementing Johnny's failure to avoid repeating the past and once more injuring Johnny's own son. In fact, the whole scene plays off as an [[HeroicBSOD antiheroic breakdown]] as Johnny finds he can't celebrate his dojo's victory thanks to their dirty deeds and his failures, can't reconcile with his son while simultaneously discovering that [[TheRival Daniel]] is being a better father figure to him, and gets struck silent when Daniel sarcastically ([[GracefulLoser or not]]) congratulates him on getting [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor what he always wanted it.wanted.]] It's no wonder he's next seen DrowningMySorrows.
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* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left. Even after everything that has happened.

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* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left. Even after everything that has happened.happened, he still has feelings for her and despite his StartofDarkness, regrets hitting her.
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* Johnny's whole relationship with Robby. There is no chance to repair the relationship between father and son, and it never gets repaired.

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* Johnny's whole relationship with Robby. There is no chance to repair the relationship The series opens with a wide chasm between father and son, and it their relationship never gets repaired.repaired. Despite how Johnny manages to turn his life around, Daniel still all but replaces him as Robby's father figure, and that clearly hurts him even worse than a Crane Kick to the face.

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* Johnny's whole relationship with Robby. There is no chance to repair the relationship between father and son, and it never gets repaired.



* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left.

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* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left. Even after everything that has happened.
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* Johnny has a sorrowful LittleNo of despair when Miguel gets ready to win the tournament by once again ruthlessly targeting Robby's shoulder, cementing Johnny's failure to avoid repeating the past and once more injuring Johnny's own son. In fact, the whole scene plays off as an [[HeroicBSOD antiheroic breakdown]] as Johnny finds he can't celebrate his dojo's victory thanks to their dirty deeds and his failures, can't reconcile with his son while simultaneously discovering that [[TheRival Daniel]] is being a better father figure to him, and gets struck silent when Daniel sarcastically congratulates him on getting [[BeCarefulWahtYouWishFor what he always wanted it.]] It's no wonder he's next seen DrowningMySorrows.

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* Johnny has a sorrowful LittleNo of despair when Miguel gets ready to win the tournament by once again ruthlessly targeting Robby's shoulder, cementing Johnny's failure to avoid repeating the past and once more injuring Johnny's own son. In fact, the whole scene plays off as an [[HeroicBSOD antiheroic breakdown]] as Johnny finds he can't celebrate his dojo's victory thanks to their dirty deeds and his failures, can't reconcile with his son while simultaneously discovering that [[TheRival Daniel]] is being a better father figure to him, and gets struck silent when Daniel sarcastically congratulates him on getting [[BeCarefulWahtYouWishFor [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor what he always wanted it.]] It's no wonder he's next seen DrowningMySorrows.
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* Johnny has a sorrowful LittleNo of despair when Miguel gets ready to win the tournament by once again ruthlessly targeting Robby's shoulder, cementing Johnny's failure to avoid repeating the past and once more injuring Johnny's own son. In fact, the whole scene plays off as an [[HeroicBSOD antiheroic breakdown.]]

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* Johnny has a sorrowful LittleNo of despair when Miguel gets ready to win the tournament by once again ruthlessly targeting Robby's shoulder, cementing Johnny's failure to avoid repeating the past and once more injuring Johnny's own son. In fact, the whole scene plays off as an [[HeroicBSOD antiheroic breakdown.]]breakdown]] as Johnny finds he can't celebrate his dojo's victory thanks to their dirty deeds and his failures, can't reconcile with his son while simultaneously discovering that [[TheRival Daniel]] is being a better father figure to him, and gets struck silent when Daniel sarcastically congratulates him on getting [[BeCarefulWahtYouWishFor what he always wanted it.]] It's no wonder he's next seen DrowningMySorrows.
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* When Miguel gets thrashed by Kyler and his gang in the locker room, Johnny is the one who finds him beaten bloody and unconscious, and is clearly struck by it, carrying Miguel to his home and nearly closing the dojo.
* Johnny has a sorrowful LittleNo of despair when Miguel gets ready to win the tournament by once again ruthlessly targeting Robby's shoulder, cementing Johnny's failure to avoid repeating the past and once more injuring Johnny's own son. In fact, the whole scene plays off as an [[HeroicBSOD antiheroic breakdown.]]
* Miguel looking for Sam after the tournament, and finding out she already left.
* Sam's reaction toward Miguel's chilling declaration that he'll beat down Robby in the finals; she immediately goes to her mom to leave, since she can't watch her recently made ex-boyfriend beat up another friend of hers out of jealousy.

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