History RuinedFOREVER / AnimeAndManga

* The ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime got this with Misty being PutOnABus and fan backlash against May [[ReplacementScrappy solely for filling the obligatory girl role Misty had]]. There are still some militant fans claiming this long after Dawn took over the girl spot, even though it's been ''years''.

* Most Arab otakus will tell you that Venus Company's dubs (especially that of ''Manga/DetectiveConan'') became RUINED FOREVER once they began making them "kiddy" and taking censorship to the extreme.

** And don't get any Arab otakus started on Venus' failed attempt to cash in on the existence of the Islamic dubs aired on religious Arabic-language kids' satellite channels by making an Islamic dub of their darling ''Manga/DetectiveConan'' (renaming it "Kamal"). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqs9USKPEJA For good measure, here's a reaction video (you'll understand it better if you know Arabic)]].

* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': Most commonly Sasuke [[SpotlightStealingSquad being the focus of an entire arc]] (especially the part about [[spoiler:[[ShockingSwerve Itachi being a good guy]]]]). Additionally, there's also a segment of the fandom that has said the TimeSkip was when they stopped liking it, [[SelectiveObliviousness even if most of what they're complaining about didn't happen until quite a while after or had been happening for a while before the time skip itself]] and they more or less seem to just be trying to focus their scorn on something important.

* Woo-hoo, ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' is getting dubbed into Latin Spanish! Wait, they didn't use Creator/MarianaOrtiz as Sailor Jupiter in the role [[Creator/AraceliDeLeon her mother]] played and instead had a complete stranger dub her? And Creator/RocioGarcel was too ill to voice Luna and they had her stand-in take over the role and re-record all the dialogue Garcel already recorded instead of waiting until she got better? Queen Beryl's voice actress didn't come back because she doesn't work at Dubbing House? AND TOEI FORCED THEM TO USE THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE NAMES INSTEAD OF THE LOCALIZED NAMES FOR THE CHARACTERS? WHY TOEI, '''''WHY?!?'''''
* Some claim that ''Anime/SailorMoon'''s English re-dubbing by Viz Media was permanently ruined in Canada after not being made available online to Canadians fast enough for them to avoid encountering {{spoiler}}s.

* Creator/{{FUNimation}}'s dub of ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' quickly got this reception. Was it the RatedMForMoney changes (which the creative staff said were absolutely intentional)? Was it the fact that the characters were cast with ridiculous accents? Or that Frontier Works mandated that the English translators use "Britain" for the England/UK character? These were a few reasons given, among others, in the huge uproar.

* Oh cool, [[SarcasmMode FINALLY]] there will be a [=LatAm=] dub for ''Anime/DragonBallKai''. Oh wait… there were economic issues? Half of the original [[VoiceActor VAs]] refused to dub? [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks THEY WERE REPLACED BY COMPLETE STRANGERS?! INCLUDING THE SINGER?!!]] [[BigNo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!]]

** In fact, the tiniest change to the ''Pokémon'' anime; will result in fans complaining that it's Ruined Forever. Ash got dumber? RUINED FOREVER!!! Brock has [[PutOnABus left the show]] even though [[OverusedRunningGag him flirting with girls was only funny the first three times]]? RUINED FOREVER!!!

* The ''Anime/{{Pokémon}}'' anime got this with Misty being PutOnABus and fan backlash against May [[ReplacementScrappy solely for filling the obligatory girl role Misty had]]. There are still some militant fans claiming this long after Dawn took over the girl spot, even though it's been ''years''.

* The ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime got this with Misty being PutOnABus and fan backlash against May [[ReplacementScrappy solely for filling the obligatory girl role Misty had]]. There are still some militant fans claiming this long after Dawn took over the girl spot, even though it's been ''years''.

** In fact, the tiniest change to the ''Pokemon'' animé will result in fans complaining that it's Ruined Forever. Ash got dumber? RUINED FOREVER!!! Brock has [[PutOnABus left the show]] even though [[OverusedRunningGag him flirting with girls was only funny the first three times]]? RUINED FOREVER!!!
** Several members of the fandom cried 'RUINED FOREVER" after the One Shot character Tobias defeated Ash with a Latios and a Darkrai. In fact, just the very idea of certain Pokemon being used in the Anime has caused fandom uproar.[[note]] Usually [[OlympusMons Legendaries]], though Dawn getting a Togekiss roused the ire of Misty fans, even those who hated the original Togepi.[[/note]]

** There was also a ''massive outcry'' at the [[ReplacementScrappy cast reboot]] in ''Anime/DigimonTamers''? Not to mention the fact that [[Anime/DigimonAdventure the original]] was a ShowWithinAShow there.

** The Creator/{{Netflix}} redubs were also loathed by the fans, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement and that's all we're going to say about it]].

* At what point was ''Anime/ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS'' Ruined Forever for people looking for a hard sci-fi mecha series? Was it Roots of Ambition where Chirico survived a shot in his heart due to Perfect Survivor status? Was it The Shining Heresy where Chirico was BornLucky enough to do a crazy ricochet fluke shot into the Order Buckler's cockpit and destroying Teitania's Auxillary Brain, Was it the newer [=OVAs=] such as Pailsen Files and Phantom Arc for Sunrise copping out on [[ThreeDEffectsTwoDCartoon dodgy computer-generated ATs]] and it basically amounting to needless padding on Chirico's backstory, Some even claim that VOTOMS wasn't very realistic to begin with when the Quent arc rolled around and TheReveal happened. for bonus points, mention the phrase "Child of God." as that aspect of Chirico's character is a sore spot with many fans.

* Some claim that Anime/SailorMoon's English re-dubbing by Viz Media was permanently ruined in Canada after not being made available online to Canadians fast enough for them to avoid encountering spoilers.

* Some claim that SailorMoon's English re-dubbing by Viz Media was permanently ruined in Canada after not being made available online to Canadians fast enough for them to avoid encountering spoilers.

** And now they're crying "RUINED FOREVER" over the Netflix redubs of the original series, ''especially'' the English redub. Fans began to curse Casey Mongillo for not being Creator/SpikeSpencer, among other things.

** And now they're crying "RUINED FOREVER" over the Netflix redubs of the original series.

* At what point was ''Anime/ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS'' Ruined Forever for people looking for a hard sci-fi mecha series? Was it Roots of Ambition where Chirico survived a shot in his heart due to Perfect Survivor status? Was it The Shining Heresy where Chirico was BornLucky enough to do a crazy ricochet fluke shot into the Order Buckler's cockpit and destroying Teitania's Auxillary Brain, Was it the newer [=OVAs=] such as Pailsen Files and Phantom Arc for Sunrise copping out on [[ConspicuousCG dodgy computer-generated ATs]] and it basically amounting to needless padding on Chirico's backstory, Some even claim that VOTOMS wasn't very realistic to begin with when the Quent arc rolled around and TheReveal happened. for bonus points, mention the phrase "Child of God." as that aspect of Chirico's character is a sore spot with many fans.

* Woo-hoo, ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' is getting dubbed into Latin Spanish! Wait, they didn't use Creator/MarianaOrtiz as Sailor Jupiter in the role [[Creator/AraceliDeLeon her mother]] played and instead had a complete stranger dub her? And Creator/RocioGarcel was too ill to voice Luna and they had her stand-in take over the role and re-record all the dialogue Garcel already recorded instead of waiting until she got better? AND TOEI FORCED THEM TO USE THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE NAMES INSTEAD OF THE LOCALIZED NAMES FOR THE CHARACTERS? WHY TOEI, '''''WHY?!?'''''

* Oh cool, [[SarcasmMode FINALLY]] there will be a [=LatAm=] dub for ''Anime/DragonBallKai''. Oh wait… there were economic issues? Half of the original [[VoiceActor VAs]] refused to dub? [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks THEY WERE REPLACED BY COMPLETE STRANGERS?! INCLUDING THE SINGER?!!]]

*** ……And they may awaken their Evas, creating a literal Third Impact all their own.

** And don't get any Arab otakus started on Venus' failed attempt to cash in on the existence of the Islamic dubs aired on religious Arabic-language kids' satellite channels by making an Islamic dub of their darling ''Manga/DetectiveConan''.

* The ''Franchise/PrettyCure'' fandom is apparently the DistaffCounterpart of the ''Transformers'' fandom or something, judging by the InternetBackdraft that occurs every time the premise of the next series is revealed without fail, complete with one subset that everything needs to go back to the way it was in [[Anime/FutariWaPrettyCure 2004]]. When your fandom complains about ''Anime/FutariWaPrettyCureSplashStar'' for being an AlternateContinuity, then complains about ''[[Anime/YesPrettyCure5 Yes! Pretty Cure 5GoGo!]]'' for ''not'' being an AlternateContinuity. And then you have ''Anime/PrettyCureAllStars New Stage'', due to the fact that the movie focuses more on the original character introduced in the movie and the [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure current]] and [[Anime/SuitePrettyCure previous]] teams than [[Anime/FutariWaPrettyCure the]] [[Anime/FutariWaPrettyCureSplashStar whole]] [[Anime/YesPrettyCure5 seven]] [[Anime/FreshPrettyCure teams]] [[Anime/HeartcatchPrettyCure combined]]. Sheesh...

* ''Manga/OnePiece'' started getting these accusations once [[spoiler:Portgas D. Ace bit the dust, breaking the tradition of not killing named characters, except in flashbacks, that was maintained for 13 years of publication.]]
** Named characters '''had''' died before that in the present; there had just been too many {{Disney Death}}s.
** And then, after [[spoiler:there was confirmation of a TimeSkip happening, it started rising again.]]
** Some people complained about Hancock falling in love with Luffy because it would ruin the series being strictly NoHuggingNoKissing. Thankfully, this was averted.