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none of these are Contiuity Nod — they're just continuity


* ContinuityNod:
** Lila and Gabriel's partnership, started in "Oni-Chan" and seen in "Miraculer", comes up in the beginning.
** Lila and Marinette's confrontation at the end of "Chameleon" is shown again. Lila finally makes good on her threat.
** When looking for a way to escape the bakery, Marinette uses her "Ladybug vision" in civilian form, as seen in "Oblivio".

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that's not a Call Back, it's just a consistent theme


** In "Chameleon" Lila states that she manipulate people by telling them what they want to hear. The Sentimonster Ladybug is able to trick Cat Noir by claiming to love him, which is just what he wanted to hear.

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The Bad Guy Wins would be if Marinette stayed expelled and everyone believed she was guilty


* TheBadGuyWins: Lila suffers no retribution for her actions, and even though Adrien pressures her to get Marinette back in school, she still worms her way into a photo shoot with him as one final middle finger to Marinette.
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** [[spoiler:A stark case of MoralMyopia at best, to say nothing of HarsherInHindsight as it makes repeat viewers wonder just how exactly he views his own son!]]
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wtf gabi! >:(

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**[[spoiler:A stark case of MoralMyopia at best, to say nothing of HarsherInHindsight as it makes repeat viewers wonder just how exactly he views his own son!]]
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Ambiguous Disorder has been renamed to Diagnosed By The Audience and now belongs in YMMV.


* {{Irony}}: At the end of the episode, Lila (on Adrien's request) "confesses" that she has a [[AmbiguousDisorder rare condition]] that causes her to lie compulsively and that's why she accused Marinette of the various crimes that had her expelled. Given that she is a ConsummateLiar, she's [[AccidentalTruth technically]] telling the truth [[MetaphoricallyTrue from a certain point of view]], but it still didn't change anything on Marinette's end.

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* {{Irony}}: At the end of the episode, Lila (on Adrien's request) "confesses" that she has a [[AmbiguousDisorder rare condition]] condition that causes her to lie compulsively and that's why she accused Marinette of the various crimes that had her expelled. Given that she is a ConsummateLiar, she's [[AccidentalTruth technically]] telling the truth [[MetaphoricallyTrue from a certain point of view]], but it still didn't change anything on Marinette's end.

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* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries.



* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries.
* AnOfferYouCantRefuse: Rare heroic version. Adrien forces Lila to make another lie to exonerate Marinette or he will break off contact with her completely. Lila doesn't want that and gives in.


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* AwesomenessByAnalysis: We [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS03E10Oblivio once again]] see Marinette use this as a civilian. This time it's to get out of helping her father in the bakery so that she can go help Cat before he's tricked by Mayura. Unfortunately, it doesn't work, so she's forced to finish as quickly as possible to get to him in time.


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* AnOfferYouCantRefuse: Rare heroic version. Adrien forces Lila to make another lie to exonerate Marinette or he will break off contact with her completely. Lila doesn't want that and gives in.
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** Sentibug invokes this by pretending to still be injured but brushing off said injury to fight Ladybug, who she frames as an akumatized villain. Seeing this as an act of bravery and a proof her heroic priorities convinces Cat Noir that she is the real Ladybug, leading the actual Ladybug to trick Mayura into exposing herself by goading Cat Noir into nearly Cataclysming her Miraculous.
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Character reaction and plot happens.


* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** Marinette's obvious and long-lasting hostility against Lila does not help her cause and plays right into Lila's hands.
** Adrien's decision to "take the high road" and not tell anyone about Lila's lies results in people not believing Marinette when she rightly accuses Lila of framing her. Marinette looks like an outlier; if Adrien had openly said that Lila ''was'' lying and shared his experiences, people might not have been as dismissive of Marinette.
** Because [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS02E24CatalystHeroesDayPart1 Hawk Moth has done the "Catalyst/Scarlet Moth" gambit before]], some of the would-be victims of akumatization were able to keep themselves calm enough to avoid being akumatized because that was proven to having worked in the past.
** While many of the characters act as GullibleLemmings and knee-jerk believe all of Lila's claims without suspicion, Marinette's HundredPercentAdorationRating ensures that [[OutOfCharacterAlert some of them are less likely to believe it]], a fraction of the people there being able to avoid getting akumatized.
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Ambiguous Disorder was renamed to Diagnosed By The Audience, and that is not the thing Lila is doing


* AmbiguousDisorder: Invoked by Lila at the end of the episode, stating she has a condition that causes her to lie compulsively and that this was why she accused Marinette of all of her wrong doings. Ironically, considering [[ConsummateLiar how often she lies]], [[MetaphoricallyTrue this might not actually count as a lie]] this time.
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--> '''Adrien:''' [[Tranquil Fury Because we're friends, aren't we?]]

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--> '''Adrien:''' [[Tranquil Fury [[TranquilFury Because we're friends, aren't we?]]

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* {{Irony}}: At the end of the episode, Lila (on Adrien's request) "confesses" that she has a [[AmbiguousDisorder rare condition]] that causes her to lie compulsively and that's why she accused Marinette of the various crimes that had her expelled. Given that she is a ConsummateLiar, she's [[AccidentalTruth technically]] telling the truth [[MetaphoricallyTrue from a certain point of view]].

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* {{Irony}}: At the end of the episode, Lila (on Adrien's request) "confesses" that she has a [[AmbiguousDisorder rare condition]] that causes her to lie compulsively and that's why she accused Marinette of the various crimes that had her expelled. Given that she is a ConsummateLiar, she's [[AccidentalTruth technically]] telling the truth [[MetaphoricallyTrue from a certain point of view]].view]], but it still didn't change anything on Marinette's end.
* IWarnedYou: At his photo shoot, Adrien tells Lila this after she hurts Marinette with her lies by framing her for stealing and pushing her down the stairs.
--> '''Adrien:''' I warned you once, Lila, but you didn't listen. You hurt my friend Marinette and that's ''not'' okay.
--> '''Lila:''' Me?! Hurting Marinette?! But she's the one who...
--> '''Adrien:''' I don't know how to prove you lied Lila, because you're good at it. So you'll just have to come up with another lie just as convincing. Only this time its gonna prove Marinette's innocent.
--> '''Lila:''' Why would I do that, Adrien?
--> '''Adrien:''' [[Tranquil Fury Because we're friends, aren't we?]]



* TranquilFury: While his tone is harsh, Adrien's voice remains level and calm when he gives Lila his ultimatum to either undo Marinette's expulsion with another lie or he will end their friendship for good.

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* TranquilFury: While his tone is harsh, Adrien's voice remains level and calm when he gives Lila his ultimatum to either undo Marinette's expulsion with another lie or he will end their friendship for good.good after he calls her out for hurting the ones he loves when [[IWarnedYou he already gave her a warning about it]].



** Catalyst returns, which leads to most of Marinette's class, Sabine, ''and '''Marinette''''' almost getting akumatized, which is only stopped by Nathalie's ongoing health issues.

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** Catalyst returns, which leads to most of Marinette's class, Sabine, ''and '''Marinette''''' ''and'' '''''Marinette''''' almost getting akumatized, which is only stopped by Nathalie's ongoing health issues.


* RefugeInAudacity: It cannot be understated that Lila absolved Marinette from the punishment for her lies by admitting she has a condition that ''makes her a compulsive liar''. Yet people not only continue to trust her but even feel sorry for her.
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* RefugeInAudacity: It cannot be understated that Lila absolved Marinette from the punishment for her lies by admitting she has a condition that ''makes her a compulsive liar''. Yet people not only continue to trust her but even feel sorry for her.
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Removing complaining parts.


* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries. ''Nor'' is Lila's mother present at the meeting in the office (why she isn't is anyone's guess), which might have resulted in some of Lila's stories being accidentally exposed if she had been there.

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* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries. ''Nor'' is Lila's mother present at the meeting in the office (why she isn't is anyone's guess), which might have resulted in some of Lila's stories being accidentally exposed if she had been there.
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Complaining. We already have a The Bad Guy Wins entry to detail this.


* KarmaHoudini: While Lila might have "confessed" to an AmbiguousDisorder, she does so in the privacy of the principal's office in a way that actually gains her ''more'' sympathy from both [[AdultsAreUseless the principal and Marinette's parents]]. There is no indication that any of her classmates are aware of it - they continue to be unaware that she is lying, and they never suspect that she intentionally framed Marinette. Adrien doesn't inform anyone of Lila's lying tendencies, meaning that yet again she can continue lying to people unimpeded (as long as she doesn't "hurt anyone" as per Adrien, a directive she has no intention of following). On top of that, she scores a photoshoot with Adrien, thus giving her the beginning of the fame she has always wanted. Lila practically gets rewarded for her evil deeds.
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* KarmaHoudini: While Lila might have "confessed" to an AmbiguousDisorder, she does so in the privacy of the principal's office in a way that actually gains her ''more'' sympathy from both [[AdultsAreUseless the principal and Marinette's parents]]. There is no indication that any of her classmates are aware of it - they continue to be unaware that she is lying, and they never suspect that she intentionally framed Marinette. Adrien doesn't inform anyone of Lila's lying tendencies, meaning that yet again she can continue lying to people unimpeded (as long as she doesn't "hurt anyone" as per Adrien, which she has no intention of following). On top of that, she scores a photoshoot with Adrien, thus giving her the beginning of the fame she has always wanted. Lila practically gets rewarded for her evil deeds.

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* KarmaHoudini: While Lila might have "confessed" to an AmbiguousDisorder, she does so in the privacy of the principal's office in a way that actually gains her ''more'' sympathy from both [[AdultsAreUseless the principal and Marinette's parents]]. There is no indication that any of her classmates are aware of it - they continue to be unaware that she is lying, and they never suspect that she intentionally framed Marinette. Adrien doesn't inform anyone of Lila's lying tendencies, meaning that yet again she can continue lying to people unimpeded (as long as she doesn't "hurt anyone" as per Adrien, which a directive she has no intention of following). On top of that, she scores a photoshoot with Adrien, thus giving her the beginning of the fame she has always wanted. Lila practically gets rewarded for her evil deeds.
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* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries. ''Nor'' is Lila's mother present at the meeting in the office (why that is, is anyone's guess), which might have resulted in some of Lila's stories being accidentally exposed if she had been there.

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* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries. ''Nor'' is Lila's mother present at the meeting in the office (why that is, she isn't is anyone's guess), which might have resulted in some of Lila's stories being accidentally exposed if she had been there.
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* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries, ''nor'' is Lila's mother present at the meeting in the office, which might have resulted in some of Lila's stories being accidentally exposed.

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* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries, ''nor'' injuries. ''Nor'' is Lila's mother present at the meeting in the office, office (why that is, is anyone's guess), which might have resulted in some of Lila's stories being accidentally exposed.exposed if she had been there.
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* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries.

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* AdultsAreUseless: Neither Ms. Bustier nor Principal Damocles question Lila's lies, instead immediately believing that Marinette did everything she was accused of. Notably, when Lila claims that Marinette pushed her down the stairs, they not only believe her, but don't even bother to get her to a doctor, even though a fall down a flight of stairs should result in some nasty injuries.injuries, ''nor'' is Lila's mother present at the meeting in the office, which might have resulted in some of Lila's stories being accidentally exposed.
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* KarmaHoudini: While Lila might have "confessed" to an AmbiguousDisorder, she does so in the privacy of the principal's office. There is no indication that any of her classmates are aware of it - they continue to be unaware that she is lying, and they never suspect that she intentionally framed Marinette. Adrien doesn't inform anyone of Lila's lying tendencies, meaning that yet again she can continue lying to people unimpeded (as long as she doesn't "hurt anyone" as per Adrien, which she has no intention of following). On top of that, she scores a photoshoot with Adrien, thus giving her the beginning of the fame she has always wanted. Lila practically gets rewarded for her evil deeds.

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* KarmaHoudini: While Lila might have "confessed" to an AmbiguousDisorder, she does so in the privacy of the principal's office.office in a way that actually gains her ''more'' sympathy from both [[AdultsAreUseless the principal and Marinette's parents]]. There is no indication that any of her classmates are aware of it - they continue to be unaware that she is lying, and they never suspect that she intentionally framed Marinette. Adrien doesn't inform anyone of Lila's lying tendencies, meaning that yet again she can continue lying to people unimpeded (as long as she doesn't "hurt anyone" as per Adrien, which she has no intention of following). On top of that, she scores a photoshoot with Adrien, thus giving her the beginning of the fame she has always wanted. Lila practically gets rewarded for her evil deeds.
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* KarmaHoudini: While Lila might have "confessed" to an AmbiguousDisorder, she does so in the privacy of the principal's office. There is no indication that any of her classmates are aware of it - they continue to be unaware that she is lying, and they never suspect that she intentionally framed Marinette. Adrien doesn't inform anyone of Lila's lying tendencies, meaning that yet again she can continue lying to people unimpeded (as long as she doesn't "hurt anyone" as per Adrien, which she has no intention of following). On top of that, she scores a photoshoot with Adrien, thus giving her the beginning of the fame she has always wanted. Lila practically gets rewarded for her evil deeds.
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** Downplayed again with Cat Noir: he cannot tell the real Ladybug from the fake one, because the fake one told him what he wanted to hear, to the point where he tries to fight the real Ladybug. And yet he proclaims that he loves Ladybug just the way she is, when she apologizes for not being as perfect as the fake one. This comes across as very false - even more so when he tries again to kiss her later, despite her just having told him (again) that she's in love with someone else.
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* BrokenPedestal: Hawk Moth's redux of his Catalyst plan relies on the fact that Marinette is so well-liked at school that Lila's FrameUp will not only render Marinette herself vulnerable, but also a significant portion of her classmates who are heartbroken by her fall. It may not be as wide-reaching as his first iteration, but it would have worked nonetheless.

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* BrokenPedestal: Hawk Moth's redux of his Catalyst plan relies on the fact that Marinette is [[LovedByAll so well-liked well-liked]] at school that Lila's FrameUp will not only render Marinette herself vulnerable, but also a significant portion of her classmates who are heartbroken by her fall. It may not be as wide-reaching as his first iteration, but it would have worked nonetheless.
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* CluelessMystery: What Alya finds the theft Marinette was framed for to be. The only evidence Lila might’ve left behind (fingerprints) were carelessly wiped away by the janitor.
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* DramaticIrony: Cat Noir taunts Hawk Moth by calling him "grandpa". Unbeknownst to either of them, Hawk Moth is in fact his ''father''.


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* InsultBackfire: After Hawk Moth [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman callously dismisses the sentimonster Ladybug's death]], Cat Noir furiously [[YouMonster declares him the "real monster"]]. Hawk Moth, being a CardCarryingVillain, completely agrees.


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* YouMonster: After Hawk Moth [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman callously dismisses the sentimonster Ladybug's death]], Cat Noir furiously declares him the "real monster". [[InsultBackfire Hawk Moth smugly agrees with this assessment.]]

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He has no say in that matter, what Gabriel says goes.


* AllLovingHero: After getting framed and expelled Marinette is still willing to give Lila another chance. Or rather doesn't try to get her back for it.

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* AllLovingHero: After getting framed and expelled Marinette is still willing to give Lila another chance. Or rather doesn't try to get her back for it.



* TheBadGuyWins: Lila suffers no retribution for her actions, and even though Adrien pressures her to get Marinette back in school, she still worms her way into a photo shoot with him as one final middle finger to Marinette. Adrien's ultimatum to her is the only reason he was willing to go through with it in the first place.

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* TheBadGuyWins: Lila suffers no retribution for her actions, and even though Adrien pressures her to get Marinette back in school, she still worms her way into a photo shoot with him as one final middle finger to Marinette. Adrien's ultimatum to her is the only reason he was willing to go through with it in the first place.



* TranquilFury: While his tone is harsh, Adrien's voice remains level and calm when he gives Lila his ultimatum to either undo Marinette's expulsion with another lie or he will cut her out of his life forever.

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* TranquilFury: While his tone is harsh, Adrien's voice remains level and calm when he gives Lila his ultimatum to either undo Marinette's expulsion with another lie or he will cut her out of his life forever.end their friendship for good.
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Misuse. This trope refers to something good directly leading to things becoming worse


* NotQuiteTheRightThing: Adrien compelling Lila to make up a semi-lie to get Marinette back in school is presented as the right thing - but it isn't quite. He still hasn't told anyone the truth about Lila's lies, despite knowing without a doubt that she wants to harm the people he cares about. And now Lila has been rewarded for her bad behavior via a photoshoot with him.
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* NotQuiteTheRightThing: Adrien compelling Lila to make up a semi-lie to get Marinette back in school is presented as the right thing - but it isn't quite. He still hasn't told anyone the truth about Lila's lies, despite knowing without a doubt that she wants to harm the people he cares about. And now Lila has been rewarded for her bad behavior via a photoshoot with him.

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* KickTheDog: Cat Noir and Ladybug are horrified when Mayura banishes the Ladybug sentimonster, since she's a sentient person that Mayura effectively murdered.



* KickTheDog: Cat Noir and Ladybug are horrified when Mayura banishes the Ladybug sentimonster, since she's a sentient person that Mayura effectively murdered.

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