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* EveryoneHasStandards: The Dean, who otherwise spends the entire episode immersed in character and obsessively trying to reunite with his "dad" Jeff, takes a moment to give Chang an annoyed look when the latter misinterprets Hank's confession about Hickey spending most of his life in a place that rhymed with "not there". (Chang answers with "Times Square").
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* TookALevelInBadass: Abed's dungeon mastering skills have certainly improved between the two episodes. In the previous one he was obviously new to it, even letting Pierce get away with the most obvious metagaming in history, but in this one he is a very competent storyteller and arbitrator, taking the game more seriously than anyone else (besides [[LargeHam the Dean]].

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* TookALevelInBadass: Abed's dungeon mastering skills have certainly improved between the two episodes. In the previous one he was obviously new to it, even letting Pierce get away with the most obvious metagaming in history, but in this one he is a very competent storyteller and arbitrator, taking the game more seriously than anyone else (besides [[LargeHam the Dean]].Dean]]).
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*** Additionally, the fact that the son is named "Joseph Gordon Diehard" is potentially a reference to ''Film/{{Looper}}'', where Joseph Gordon-Levitt plays a younger version of a character played by Creator/BruceWillis. Bruce Willis was the star of the ''Die Hard'' films.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Hank's refusal to play along with the D&D game is frequently petty, but he has accurately figured out that the group has no real interest in playing the game and is just trying to unsubtly manipulate and force him into a reunion with his father that he has no interest in. He also notes that the group hasn't heard his side of the story regarding his relationship with Hickey and claims that he has entirely valid reasons not to want anything to do with his dad.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: JerkassHasAPoint:
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Hank's refusal to play along with the D&D game is frequently petty, but he has accurately figured out that the group has no real interest in playing the game and is just trying to unsubtly manipulate and force him into a reunion with his father that he has no interest in. He also notes that the group hasn't heard his side of the story regarding his relationship with Hickey and claims that he has entirely valid reasons not to want anything to do with his dad.
** In a (sort of) in-game example, after Hank tries to derail the game by going in an unplanned direction, Annie tries to get him to play along by having her character physically manhandle him into the right direction. Hank promptly has ''his'' character cast a damaging fire spell on Annie's. While everyone's kind of appalled, Hank points out that since his character was under unwanted physical duress, technically it was self-defence.
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* CondescendingCompassion: As with the previous ''D&D'' episode the study group means well in trying to help Hickey and Hank, but their general lack of interest in [=/=] disdain for the game means that they come across as rather condescending and insincere, and their approach is transparent and simplistic. Hank picks up on this and clearly doesn't appreciate it.

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* GenreBlind:
** The group tries to make a D&D game specifically to reunite Hickey and Hank by making Abed the DM. But of course, he ignores their pleas to modify the game and stays impartial. As Abed points out at the beginning, they also fail to remember that last time they tried to use a D&D game to solve someone's issues it didn't exactly go the way they were anticipating either.
** Hickey is this at the game, justified since it's his first time playing. He plays recklessly and ends up getting Shirley killed. He quickly learns his lesson though and plays a lot more competently for the rest of the game.

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* GenreBlind:
** The group tries to make a D&D game specifically to reunite Hickey and Hank by making Abed the DM. But of course, he ignores their pleas to modify the game and stays impartial. As Abed points out at the beginning, they also fail to remember that last time they tried to use a D&D game to solve someone's issues it didn't exactly go the way they were anticipating either.
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GenreBlind: Hickey is this at the game, justified since it's his first time playing. He plays recklessly and ends up getting Shirley killed. He quickly learns his lesson though and plays a lot more competently for the rest of the game.



** Hank, being a seasoned D&D player, knows how to play the game quite well as he healed his comrades soon after the bridge collapsed (something Hickey failed to do). He also knew that the Sky Spiders were simply misunderstood and had them help him in his quest; and also realizes immediately that the game is a trick to get him and his father to bond (especially since their characters are father & son), and has the group switch characters.

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** Hank, **Hank, being a seasoned D&D player, knows how to play the game quite well as he healed his comrades soon after the bridge collapsed (something Hickey failed to do). He also knew that the Sky Spiders were simply misunderstood and had them help him in his quest; and also realizes immediately that the game is a trick to get him and his father to bond (especially since their characters are father & son), and has the group switch characters.
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* [[BlackDudeDiesFirst Black Woman Dies First]]: Shirley.

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* [[BlackDudeDiesFirst Black Woman Dies First]]: Shirley.Shirley, though she only dies in the game.
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!!The ''{{Community}}'' episode Advanced Advanced Dungeons And Dragons provides examples of:

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!!The ''{{Community}}'' ''Series/{{Community}}'' episode Advanced Advanced Dungeons And Dragons provides examples of:
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Misuse. Developers Foresight is when the game has a response for unlikely player actions.


* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: This being Abed naturally, his D&D world is meticulously planned out. To the point where he even created intricate backstories for two random hobgoblin [[{{Mooks}} mooks]] and the LoveTriangle between them in case they ever got interrogated.
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** He also reacts as any experienced role-player probably did to Abed's frankly [[{{Railroading}} atrocious]] [[ClicheStorm gamemastering]] in the original D&D episode.

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** He also reacts as any experienced role-player probably did to Abed's frankly [[{{Railroading}} atrocious]] [[ClicheStorm gamemastering]] in the original D&D episode.episode (although how much of that was Abed's fault is debatable, since Caverns of Draconis is apparently a D&D module in Community).
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* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: This being Abed naturally, his D&D world is meticulously planned out. To the point where he even created intricate backstories for two random Goblin [[{{Mooks}} mooks]] and the LoveTriangle between them in case they ever got interrogated.

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* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: This being Abed naturally, his D&D world is meticulously planned out. To the point where he even created intricate backstories for two random Goblin hobgoblin [[{{Mooks}} mooks]] and the LoveTriangle between them in case they ever got interrogated.
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** The goblins that Abed role-plays, Golback and Kling, are embroiled in a love triangle over a female goblin called... Lisa.

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** The goblins hobgoblins that Abed role-plays, Golback and Kling, are embroiled in a love triangle over a female goblin called... Lisa.
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*TookALevelInBadass: Abed's dungeon mastering skills have certainly improved between the two episodes. In the previous one he was obviously new to it, even letting Pierce get away with the most obvious metagaming in history, but in this one he is a very competent storyteller and arbitrator, taking the game more seriously than anyone else (besides [[LargeHam the Dean]].
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** He also reacts as any experienced role-player would to Abed's frankly [[{{Railroading}} atrocious]] [[ClicheStorm gamemastering.]]

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** He also reacts as any experienced role-player would probably did to Abed's frankly [[{{Railroading}} atrocious]] [[ClicheStorm gamemastering.]]gamemastering]] in the original D&D episode.
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** He also reacts as any experienced role-player would to Abed's frankly [[{{Railroading}} atrocious]] [[ClicheStorm gamemastering.]]
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** Hank yelling 'lightning bolt' repeatedly during the battle scene is most likely a reference to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw this video]].
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* CrazyPrepared: Abed is this kind of GM, as evidenced by his huge binder of background material on his game world.
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* CassandraTruth: When the group decides to reunite the Hickeys with ''Dungeons and Dragons'', everyone ignores Abed pointing out that [[Recap/CommunityS2E14AdvancedDungeonsAndDragons things didn't exactly work out as planned last time]]. True to form, things don't work out as planned this time.

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* CassandraTruth: When the group decides to reunite the Hickeys with ''Dungeons and Dragons'', everyone ignores Abed pointing out that [[Recap/CommunityS2E14AdvancedDungeonsAndDragons things didn't exactly work out as planned last time]]. True to form, things don't exactly work out as planned this time.
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* CassandraTruth: When the group decides to reunite the Hickeys with Dungeons and Dragons, everyone ignores Abed pointing out that [[Recap/CommunityS2E14AdvancedDungeonsAndDragons things didn't exactly work out as planned last time]]. True to form, things don't work out as planned this time.

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* CassandraTruth: When the group decides to reunite the Hickeys with Dungeons ''Dungeons and Dragons, Dragons'', everyone ignores Abed pointing out that [[Recap/CommunityS2E14AdvancedDungeonsAndDragons things didn't exactly work out as planned last time]]. True to form, things don't work out as planned this time.
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* CassandraTruth: When the group decides to reunite the Hickeys with Dungeons and Dragons, everyone ignores Abed pointing out that [[Recap/CommunityS2E14AdvancedDungeonsAndDragons things didn't exactly work out as planned last time]]. True to form, things don't work out as planned this time.
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* WhatAnIdiot: In-universe; when Abed reveals that the Necromancer has fled the castle, Hickey and Hank protest over the fact that there's NoEnding. Abed caustically points out that if a man is faced with two large groups of warriors at his front door loudly fighting for an hour over who gets to kill him, the fact that he might elect to quietly slip out the back while they're distracted shouldn't come as too big a surprise.
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* OffingTheOffspring: Jeff, as "Sir Riggs Diehard" kills his son "Joseph Gordon" played by the Dean, by plunging his imaginary sword through him when he tries to go in for a hug.

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* OffingTheOffspring: Jeff, as "Sir Riggs Diehard" kills his son "Joseph Gordon" played by the Dean, by plunging refusing to sheath his imaginary sword through him when he the Dean tries to go in for a hug.hug, at which point Joseph Gordon impales himself on the sword.

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* SeriousBusiness: The Dean ''really'' gets into his role as Joseph Gordon Diehard.

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* SeriousBusiness: The Dean ''really'' gets into his role as Joseph Gordon Diehard. Largely because it gives him [[WellDoneSonGuy an excuse]] to obsess over Jeff.


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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Subverted. Hickey stops wantonly killing hobgoblins when he discovers they can speak... not because he's having a crisis of conscience, but because he realises he can torture them for information instead.
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* StealthPun: The whole point of the game is to repair the shaky relationship between Hank and Hickey. The first thing Hank does in the game is to literally burn a bridge.
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** Abed notes that the study group seems to view ''Dungeons and Dragons'' as a way of reprogramming people's minds and argues that it's not quite as simple as that, pointing out that they almost ended up driving someone to suicide last time. Like the previous D&D game they played, the study group's initially rather simplistic plan of letting the person they're trying to 'reprogram' win the game and thus, in their minds, instantly solving their problems is waylaid by unforeseen complications, but the way the game actually progresses ends up improving things for the better anyway. Abed also seems aware of this, judging from some of his pointed comments to Hickey and Hank during the game.

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** Abed notes that the study group seems to view ''Dungeons and Dragons'' as a way of reprogramming people's minds and argues that it's not quite as simple as that, pointing out that they almost ended up driving someone to suicide last time. Like the previous D&D game they played, the study group's initially rather simplistic plan of letting the person they're trying to 'reprogram' win the game and thus, in their minds, instantly solving their problems is waylaid by unforeseen complications, but the way the game actually progresses ends up improving things for the better anyway. Abed also seems aware of this, judging from some of his pointed comments to Hickey and Hank during the game.
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** Abed notes that the study group seems to view ''Dungeons and Dragons'' as a way of reprogramming people's minds and argues that it's not quite as simple as that, pointing out that they almost ended up driving someone to suicide last time. Like the previous D&D game they played, the study group's initially rather simplistic plan of letting the person they're trying to 'reprogram' win the game and thus, in their minds, instantly solving their problems is waylaid by unforeseen complications, but the way the game actually progresses ends up improving things for the better anyway.

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** Abed notes that the study group seems to view ''Dungeons and Dragons'' as a way of reprogramming people's minds and argues that it's not quite as simple as that, pointing out that they almost ended up driving someone to suicide last time. Like the previous D&D game they played, the study group's initially rather simplistic plan of letting the person they're trying to 'reprogram' win the game and thus, in their minds, instantly solving their problems is waylaid by unforeseen complications, but the way the game actually progresses ends up improving things for the better anyway. Abed also seems aware of this, judging from some of his pointed comments to Hickey and Hank during the game.
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*** (Making uppercut motion) I SHOVE IT UP THEM!!

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*** (Making uppercut motion) I "I SHOVE IT UP THEM!!THEM!!"
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*** (Making uppercut motion) I SHOVE IT UP THEM!!
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* RocksFallEverybodyDies: Abed ends a game of Dungeons and Dragons Tea Party Edition with Annie's stuffed toys by having them all brutally assassinated.

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If he\'s a D&D nut, that really wouldn\'t be hidden depths


* HiddenDepths:
** Gruff macho-man Hickey gets on much better with his openly gay son than he does with his straight son.
** Hank apparently sings in Elvish.

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HiddenDepths: Gruff macho-man Hickey gets on much better with his openly gay son than he does with his straight son.
** Hank apparently sings in Elvish.
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