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->"You actually bothered to finish this crappy game? Sucker! Don't take it so seriously."
-->-- ''VideoGame/TakeshisChallenge'''s [[AWinnerIsYou ending text]].
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-->-- '''WebOriginal/{{Quackity|HQ}}, "The [[WebOriginal/MinecraftChampionship MCC]] {{Diss Track}}"

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-->-- '''WebOriginal/{{Quackity|HQ}}, '''WebOriginal/{{Quackity|HQ}}''', "The [[WebOriginal/MinecraftChampionship MCC]] {{Diss Track}}"

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->Yo they think you're dumb\\

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->Yo ->''Yo they think you're dumb\\



I think you're dumb

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I think you're dumbdumb''



->Ya'll don't wanna hear me, you just wanna dance

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->Ya'll ->''Ya'll don't wanna hear me, you just wanna dancedance''



-> ''Finally, he's firing in spurts,''
-> ''It's the last member of the Coconut Crew!''
-> ''[[WhoWritesThisCrap This coconut crap, isn't funny,]]''
-> ''If you know the spurts, you need to shoot yourself!''
-->-- '''[[Music/SiivaGunner DK Rap (Unused Version)]]'''

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-> ''Finally, ->''There are 10 teams, 40 people\\
And we're gonna have some fun\\
Oh my God, all [[FanDumb Twitter's]] fighting\\
Because they've never seen the sun before''
-->-- '''WebOriginal/{{Quackity|HQ}}, "The [[WebOriginal/MinecraftChampionship MCC]] {{Diss Track}}"

->''Finally,
he's firing in spurts,''
-> ''It's
spurts,\\
It's
the last member of the Coconut Crew!''
-> ''[[WhoWritesThisCrap
Crew!\\
[[WhoWritesThisCrap
This coconut crap, isn't funny,]]''
-> ''If
funny,]]\\
If
you know the spurts, you need to shoot yourself!''
-->-- '''[[Music/SiivaGunner DK '''Music/SiivaGunner''', "DK Rap (Unused Version)]]'''
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->I know a lot of you out there in social media land think that sometimes, when it comes to judgments, I don't always get it right. Well, you're wrong. And you'd better make sure those comments come from a server in Central Europe. It's not hard for a man with my connections to get a name, do you understand? ''(getting progressively angrier)'' You might be Dumbledore online, but I'll find you! And I'll disguise myself as a giant crow in a tree outside your house. '''YOU EVER BEEN JUMPED ON BY A SIX-FOOT EIGHT CROW??''' Then maybe keep your opinions to yourself!
-->-- '''Creator/GregDavies''' will not brook criticism of his decisions as Taskmaster, ''Series/{{Taskmaster}}''

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[1] Also, the PNF example is Biting The Hand Humor, as Word Of God says it's a dig at Disney executives.


->'''Jeff [=McGarland=]:''' [You] pitched me a TV series against my will, not to mention holding up the autograph line. But my advanced TV executive instincts tell me your show is going to be a big hit.\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' Yes! I'm going to have my own show, on television! And then, all of these fans will be so in awe of me, they will do my bidding. It's actually happening! I am going to rule the Tri-State Area!\\
'''Jeff:''' Just a thought though, can we get the platypus a girlfriend?\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' What! Never! Oh, suddenly you know my characters better than me? Forget it! I'm no sellout. I just crassly calculated commercial appeal in a mad quest for financial gain. No, no, my artistic integrity and I are out! Peace!
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', "Nerds of a Feather''

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->'''Jeff [=McGarland=]:''' [You] pitched me a TV series against my will, not to mention holding up the autograph line. But my advanced TV executive instincts tell me your show is going to be a big hit.\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' Yes! I'm going to have my own show, on television! And then, all

->''"Trace amounts
of these fans will be so in awe of me, they will do my bidding. It's actually happening! I am going to rule the Tri-State Area!\\
'''Jeff:''' Just
mental activity detected. Possibly a thought though, can we get the platypus a girlfriend?\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' What! Never! Oh, suddenly you know my characters better than me? Forget it! I'm no sellout. I just crassly calculated commercial appeal in a mad quest for financial gain. No, no, my artistic integrity and I are out! Peace!
dead weasel or cartoon viewer."''
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', "Nerds '''Brainspawn''', the ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' episode "The Why of a Feather''
Fry"


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->Sentence mixing with Robotnik is so fucking easy! Why are you people so impressed by it?
-->-- '''Robotnik''', Creator/{{Thechairman45}}'s "The Discreet Charm of Robotnik"
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->This hatred [towards ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fans] doesn't just manifest in insulting wankery like having it turn out to be a fucking boomerang, or deliberately re-writing one of the first proto-feminist icons in crime-fiction to be a sexy kung-fu dominatrix in love with the main character, but in how the show directly tells you that, if you're a fan, you should personally go and fuck yourself. [...] Season 3 features several characters whose sole job it is to [[ThisLoserIsYou portray fan theories and theorists and make fun of them and call them stupid for bothering to try and figure out what happened based on the information given to them by the show]]. [...] People trying to figure out the ''mystery'' in a ''mystery-story'' are presented as a little club of weirdos being weird together. The creator of the story appears to be so fundamentally ''incapable'' of recognizing how to tell a mystery, that he's perceived people ''treating'' it like one as ''insane''.

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->This hatred [towards ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fans] doesn't just manifest in insulting wankery like having it turn out to be a fucking boomerang, ''boomerang'', or deliberately re-writing one of the first proto-feminist icons in crime-fiction to be a sexy kung-fu dominatrix in love with the main character, but in how the show directly tells you that, if you're a fan, you should personally go and fuck ''fuck'' yourself. [...] Season 3 features several characters whose sole job it is to [[ThisLoserIsYou portray fan theories and theorists and make fun of them and call them stupid for bothering to try and figure out what happened based on the information given to them by the show]]. [...] People trying to figure out the ''mystery'' in a ''mystery-story'' are presented as a little club of weirdos being weird together. The creator of the story appears to be so fundamentally ''incapable'' of recognizing how to tell a mystery, that he's perceived people ''treating'' it like one as ''insane''.
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-> ''This coconut crap, isn't funny,''

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-> ''This ''[[WhoWritesThisCrap This coconut crap, isn't funny,''funny,]]''
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-> ''Finally, he's firing in spurts,''
-> ''It's the last member of the Coconut Crew!''
-> ''This coconut crap, isn't funny,''
-> ''If you know the spurts, you need to shoot yourself!''
-->-- '''[[Music/SiivaGunner DK Rap (Unused Version)]]'''
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->YOU SANCTIMONIOUS SACK OF FECES! YOU'RE TRYING TO PIN THIS ON ''US''? ''Marville'' failed sales-wise because "''we couldn't accept your grand vision of world peace''"? That we only wanted "''superheroes punching each other''"? GO TO HELL! Your comic didn't succeed because it started as a lame, unfunny parody of the comic book industry, and then was an inaccurate and moronic tale about God and the universe! ''It failed because it SUCKED!''

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->YOU SANCTIMONIOUS SACK OF FECES! YOU'RE TRYING TO PIN THIS ON ''US''? ''Marville'' failed sales-wise because "''we couldn't accept your grand vision of world peace''"? That we only wanted "''superheroes punching each other''"? [[ShutUpHannibal GO TO HELL! HELL!]] Your comic didn't succeed because it started as a lame, unfunny parody of the comic book industry, and then was an inaccurate and moronic tale about God and the universe! ''It failed because it SUCKED!''
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->Ya'll don't wanna hear me, you just wanna dance
-->-- '''Music/OutKast''', "Hey Ya!"
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-->-- ''VideoGame/PokerNight2
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->'''Sam:''' (in response to the Player raising the pot) [[WhatTheHellPlayer Hey! I thought we were friends.]]\\
'''Max:''' It's playing computer poker by itself, Sam. It doesn't HAVE friends!
-->-- ''VideoGame/PokerNight2

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[[AC:Comic Books]]
->"This is the tale of Teddy Teague,\\
Who could not wait to read his ''[[ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen League]].''\\
With each new month, he would complain:\\
"Where's issue six? It's late again!""\\
Vexed and frustrated, he would write\\
Disgruntled letters filled with spite,\\
That called the authors work-shy fops\\
And threatened them with riding crops!\\
Grown vain on cash from Tinseltown,\\
This pair won't take this lying down!\\
And finding out where Teddy lives,\\
Go round and do him in with shivs!\\
In summary, our tale makes clear\\
That patience is a virtue, dear.\\
So gentle reader, know your place...\\
And don't get on our f***ing case."
-->--'''Creator/AlanMoore''', ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen''

[[AC:Film -- Animated]]
->I can't believe we're paying to see something we get on TV for free. If you ask me, everyone in this theatre is a giant sucker. ''[AsideGlance]'' Especially you!
-->-- '''Homer''', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsonsMovie''

[[AC:Literature]]
->"[[EmbarrassingNickname Clocksie]]," Clockblocker said, deadpan, "Has been the target of a lot of criticism, because he was in charge of the Wards at the time a lot of stuff went down. [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Some dingbats online speculated that I had a thing for Weaver, and it took off. The people online like to find stuff that fills in blanks]], and there were a hell of a lot of blanks around the whole thing with [[ReformedCriminal Weaver]] defecting, and our pseudo-truce with the Undersiders."
-->-- '''Clockblocker''', ''Literature/{{Worm}}''

[[AC:Music]]
->Yo they think you're dumb\\
I think you're smart\\
[[ImmediateSelfContradiction No, wait, I lied]]\\
I think you're dumb
-->-- '''Music/MindlessSelfIndulgence''', "Stupid MF"

[[AC:Video Games]]



->'''Jeff [=McGarland=]:''' [You] pitched me a TV series against my will, not to mention holding up the autograph line. But my advanced TV executive instincts tell me your show is going to be a big hit.\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' Yes! I'm going to have my own show, on television! And then, all of these fans will be so in awe of me, they will do my bidding. It's actually happening! I am going to rule the Tri-State Area!\\
'''Jeff:''' Just a thought though, can we get the platypus a girlfriend?\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' What! Never! Oh, suddenly you know my characters better than me? Forget it! I'm no sellout. I just crassly calculated commercial appeal in a mad quest for financial gain. No, no, my artistic integrity and I are out! Peace!
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', "Nerds of a Feather''

-> “[[EmbarrassingNickname Clocksie]],” Clockblocker said, deadpan, “Has been the target of a lot of criticism, because he was in charge of the Wards at the time a lot of stuff went down. [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Some dingbats online speculated that I had a thing for Weaver, and it took off. The people online like to find stuff that fills in blanks]], and there were a hell of a lot of blanks around the whole thing with [[ReformedCriminal Weaver]] defecting, and our pseudo-truce with the Undersiders.”
-->-- '''Clockblocker''', ''Literature/{{Worm}}''



->Yo they think you're dumb\\
I think you're smart\\
[[ImmediateSelfContradiction No, wait, I lied]]\\
I think you're dumb
-->-- '''Music/MindlessSelfIndulgence''', "Stupid MF"

->I can't believe we're paying to see something we get on TV for free. If you ask me, everyone in this theatre is a giant sucker. ''[AsideGlance]'' Especially you!
-->-- '''Homer''', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsonsMovie''

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->Yo they [[AC:Visual Novels]]
->What do you
think you're dumb\\
I
this is, some sort of tacky ero visual novel? Do you really think you're smart\\
[[ImmediateSelfContradiction No, wait,
relationships are as easy as [[DatingSim just clicking the right dialogue choices on a menu]]...? Are you trying to tell me that, after all the time we've spent together, I lied]]\\
I think you're dumb
don't deserve just a little bit of effort? Well, here's a message to you... [[YouBastard not as a cool space investigator, but as a player sitting at a computer screen talking to a sad girl]]. [[ItMakesSenseInContext Stand up, get the ingredients, actually go into your kitchen, and bake a cake]]! [[BreakingTheFourthWall A real, actual, IRL cake]]! Please, do this for me! You promised me you would! Let me enjoy it through you, please!
-->-- '''Music/MindlessSelfIndulgence''', "Stupid MF"

->I can't believe we're paying to see something we get on TV for free. If you ask me, everyone in this theatre is a giant sucker. ''[AsideGlance]'' Especially you!
-->-- '''Homer''', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsonsMovie''
'''Hyun-ae''', ''VisualNovel/HatePlus''

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->What do you think this is, some sort of tacky ero visual novel? Do you really think relationships are as easy as [[DatingSim just clicking the right dialogue choices on a menu]]...? Are you trying to tell me that, after all the time we've spent together, I don't deserve just a little bit of effort? Well, here's a message to you... [[YouBastard not as a cool space investigator, but as a player sitting at a computer screen talking to a sad girl]]. [[ItMakesSenseInContext Stand up, get the ingredients, actually go into your kitchen, and bake a cake]]! [[BreakingTheFourthWall A real, actual, IRL cake]]! Please, do this for me! You promised me you would! Let me enjoy it through you, please!
-->-- '''*Hyun-ae''', ''VisualNovel/HatePlus''

->''You have ignited a nuclear war. And no, there is no animated display of a mushroom cloud with body parts flying through the air. '''We do not reward failure.'''''
-->-- GameOver screen for ''Balance of Power''

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->What do you think this is, some sort of tacky ero visual novel? Do you really think relationships are as easy as [[DatingSim just clicking [[AC:Western Animation]]
->'''Jeff [=McGarland=]:''' [You] pitched me a TV series against my will, not to mention holding up
the right dialogue choices on a menu]]...? Are you trying to autograph line. But my advanced TV executive instincts tell me that, after your show is going to be a big hit.\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' Yes! I'm going to have my own show, on television! And then,
all the time we've spent together, I don't deserve just a little bit of effort? Well, here's a message to you... [[YouBastard not as a cool space investigator, but as a player sitting at a computer screen talking to a sad girl]]. [[ItMakesSenseInContext Stand up, get the ingredients, these fans will be so in awe of me, they will do my bidding. It's actually go into your kitchen, happening! I am going to rule the Tri-State Area!\\
'''Jeff:''' Just a thought though, can we get the platypus a girlfriend?\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' What! Never! Oh, suddenly you know my characters better than me? Forget it! I'm no sellout. I just crassly calculated commercial appeal in a mad quest for financial gain. No, no, my artistic integrity
and bake a cake]]! [[BreakingTheFourthWall A real, actual, IRL cake]]! Please, do this for me! You promised me you would! Let me enjoy it through you, please!
I are out! Peace!
-->-- '''*Hyun-ae''', ''VisualNovel/HatePlus''

->''You have ignited a nuclear war. And no, there is no animated display
''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', "Nerds of a mushroom cloud with body parts flying through the air. '''We do not reward failure.'''''
-->-- GameOver screen for ''Balance of Power''
Feather''



->"This is the tale of Teddy Teague,\\
Who could not wait to read his ''[[ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen League]].''\\
With each new month, he would complain:\\
"Where's issue six? It's late again!""\\
Vexed and frustrated, he would write\\
Disgruntled letters filled with spite,\\
That called the authors work-shy fops\\
And threatened them with riding crops!\\
Grown vain on cash from Tinseltown,\\
This pair won't take this lying down!\\
And finding out where Teddy lives,\\
Go round and do him in with shivs!\\
In summary, our tale makes clear\\
That patience is a virtue, dear.\\
So gentle reader, know your place...\\
And don't get on our f***ing case."
-->--'''Creator/AlanMoore''', ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen''
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-->-- ''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'' on ''ComicBook/{{Marville}}'' #6

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-->-- ''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'' '''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]''' on ''ComicBook/{{Marville}}'' #6
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-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand''

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-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' '''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''' on ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand''

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->'''BlackKnight:''' Even as we speak, my {{Troll}}s are on [=YouTube=] downloading your videos! My Trolls are on your website posting [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic MLP]] art of you and Dr. Insano. My Trolls are on Twitter redundantly telling you news about ''{{Franchise/Highlander}}'' movies and asking you to livestream ''VideoGame/DeadlyPremonition'' and propagating ''[=#spoonyhateseverything=]''.
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' on ''VideoGame/{{Ultima}}: Runes of Virtue''

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->'''BlackKnight:''' Even as we speak, my {{Troll}}s are on [=YouTube=] downloading ->YOU SANCTIMONIOUS SACK OF FECES! YOU'RE TRYING TO PIN THIS ON ''US''? ''Marville'' failed sales-wise because "''we couldn't accept your videos! My Trolls are on your website posting [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic MLP]] art grand vision of you world peace''"? That we only wanted "''superheroes punching each other''"? GO TO HELL! Your comic didn't succeed because it started as a lame, unfunny parody of the comic book industry, and Dr. Insano. My Trolls are on Twitter redundantly telling you news then was an inaccurate and moronic tale about ''{{Franchise/Highlander}}'' movies God and asking you to livestream ''VideoGame/DeadlyPremonition'' and propagating ''[=#spoonyhateseverything=]''.
the universe! ''It failed because it SUCKED!''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' ''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'' on ''VideoGame/{{Ultima}}: Runes of Virtue''
''ComicBook/{{Marville}}'' #6

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->So, about ''10 minutes'' into this film--which ''only'' wrestling fans would see--we've been insulted by being portrayed at the '''bottom''' rung [[ManChild mentally, emotionally, financially, and socially]]. ''Thank'' you, {{Wrestling/WCW}}; that's ''very'' thorough. Take a bow!
-->-- ''WebVideo/OSWReview'' on ''Film/ReadyToRumble''

[[AC:On Live-Action TV]]



->Scroll down now and read the first five comments under this video! You should be feeling a cold metallic sensation because you're now holding a gun to your head.
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand''

->So, about ''10 minutes'' into this film--which ''only'' wrestling fans would see--we've been insulted by being portrayed at the '''bottom''' rung [[ManChild mentally, emotionally, financially, and socially]]. ''Thank'' you, {{Wrestling/WCW}}; that's ''very'' thorough. Take a bow!
-->-- ''WebVideo/OSWReview'' on ''Film/ReadyToRumble''

->What especially stands out in the footage of GG’s shows is his relationship with his audience. With your average rock show there’s a sense that the band is being placed on a pedestal for fawning adulation. Punk broke down the barrier between the musicians and their audience and allowed the bands to present themselves as part of the crowd, no better or worse than the people they were playing for. But GG was actively at war with his audience. He cursed them, hit them, threw objects at them, and in the case of women ([[AnythingThatMoves and some men!]]) attempted to rape them. And they fought back, throwing epithets, fists and bottles at GG while he was onstage. Watching the pit at a GG Allin show was like looking at some curious rite of passage of an obscure Africa tribe where only the bravest are willing to get close enough to the stage and risk either bodily harm or the possibility of receiving a fistful of shit, piss or blood. (It's strangely ironic that after all the shows GG did with no concern for his audience’s safety, Great White is the band that ends up killing a hundred of their fans.)
-->-- '''[[http://www.acidlogic.com/im_gg_allin.htm Wil Forbis]]''' on Music/GGAllin, ''Interesting Motherfuckers''



[[AC:On Music]]
->What especially stands out in the footage of GG’s shows is his relationship with his audience. With your average rock show there’s a sense that the band is being placed on a pedestal for fawning adulation. Punk broke down the barrier between the musicians and their audience and allowed the bands to present themselves as part of the crowd, no better or worse than the people they were playing for. But GG was actively at war with his audience. He cursed them, hit them, threw objects at them, and in the case of women ([[AnythingThatMoves and some men!]]) attempted to rape them. And they fought back, throwing epithets, fists and bottles at GG while he was onstage. Watching the pit at a GG Allin show was like looking at some curious rite of passage of an obscure Africa tribe where only the bravest are willing to get close enough to the stage and risk either bodily harm or the possibility of receiving a fistful of shit, piss or blood. (It's strangely ironic that after all the shows GG did with no concern for his audience’s safety, Great White is the band that ends up killing a hundred of their fans.)
-->-- '''[[http://www.acidlogic.com/im_gg_allin.htm Wil Forbis]]''' on Music/GGAllin, ''Interesting Motherfuckers''

[[AC:On Video Games]]
->'''BlackKnight:''' Even as we speak, my {{Troll}}s are on [=YouTube=] downloading your videos! My Trolls are on your website posting [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic MLP]] art of you and Dr. Insano. My Trolls are on Twitter redundantly telling you news about ''{{Franchise/Highlander}}'' movies and asking you to livestream ''VideoGame/DeadlyPremonition'' and propagating ''[=#spoonyhateseverything=]''.
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' on ''VideoGame/{{Ultima}}: Runes of Virtue''

->Scroll down now and read the first five comments under this video! You should be feeling a cold metallic sensation because you're now holding a gun to your head.
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand''



->YOU SANCTIMONIOUS SACK OF FECES! YOU'RE TRYING TO PIN THIS ON ''US''? ''Marville'' failed sales-wise because "''we couldn't accept your grand vision of world peace''"? That we only wanted "''superheroes punching each other''"? GO TO HELL! Your comic didn't succeed because it started as a lame, unfunny parody of the comic book industry, and then was an inaccurate and moronic tale about God and the universe! ''It failed because it SUCKED!''
-->-- ''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'' on ''ComicBook/{{Marville}}'' #6
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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the book. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for your audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own.

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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the book. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for your audience, just ask Michael Bay!' Creator/MichaelBay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own.

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->This hatred [towards ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fans] doesn't just manifest in insulting wankery like having it turn out to be a fucking boomerang, or deliberately re-writing one of the first proto-feminist icons in crime-fiction to be a sexy kung-fu dominatrix in love with the main character, but in how the show directly tells you that, if you're a fan, you should personally go and fuck yourself.\\
\\
[...] Season 3 features several characters whose sole job it is to [[ThisLoserIsYou portray fan theories and theorists and make fun of them and call them stupid for bothering to try and figure out what happened based on the information given to them by the show]]. [...] People trying to figure out the ''mystery'' in a ''mystery-story'' are presented as a little club of weirdos being weird together. The creator of the story appears to be so fundamentally ''incapable'' of recognizing how to tell a mystery, that he's perceived people ''treating'' it like one as ''insane''.

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->This hatred [towards ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fans] doesn't just manifest in insulting wankery like having it turn out to be a fucking boomerang, or deliberately re-writing one of the first proto-feminist icons in crime-fiction to be a sexy kung-fu dominatrix in love with the main character, but in how the show directly tells you that, if you're a fan, you should personally go and fuck yourself.\\
\\
[...] Season 3 features several characters whose sole job it is to [[ThisLoserIsYou portray fan theories and theorists and make fun of them and call them stupid for bothering to try and figure out what happened based on the information given to them by the show]]. [...] People trying to figure out the ''mystery'' in a ''mystery-story'' are presented as a little club of weirdos being weird together. The creator of the story appears to be so fundamentally ''incapable'' of recognizing how to tell a mystery, that he's perceived people ''treating'' it like one as ''insane''.
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->'''Sonic:''' Knuckles, you just missed the most epic Eggman battle!\\
'''Tails:''' It was the perfect blend of new minions and classic favorites from years past!\\
'''Sticks:''' Easily the most action-packed battle we've ever had! ''(AsideGlance)'' And you missed it. That's what you get for followin' [[TheDitz Knuckles]] around.
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom''
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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the book. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for your audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own. [...] I think this leads into the biggest point of contention between Slott and fans about Peter's characterization. [[ThisLoserIsYou Dan Slott hates Peter Parker.]] He thinks Peter Parker is his own worst enemy and incredibly self-destructive and toxic to the people around him. That...that's not Spider-Man.

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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the book. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for your audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own. [...] I think this leads into the biggest point of contention between Slott and fans about Peter's characterization. [[ThisLoserIsYou Dan Slott hates Peter Parker.]] He thinks Peter Parker is his own worst enemy and incredibly self-destructive and toxic to the people around him. That...that's not Spider-Man.
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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for your audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own. [...] I think this leads into the biggest point of contention between Slott and fans about Peter's characterization. [[ThisLoserIsYou Dan Slott hates Peter Parker.]] He thinks Peter Parker is his own worst enemy and incredibly self-destructive and toxic to the people around him. That...that's not Spider-Man.

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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back.book. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for your audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own. [...] I think this leads into the biggest point of contention between Slott and fans about Peter's characterization. [[ThisLoserIsYou Dan Slott hates Peter Parker.]] He thinks Peter Parker is his own worst enemy and incredibly self-destructive and toxic to the people around him. That...that's not Spider-Man.
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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own. [...] I think this leads into the biggest point of contention between Slott and fans about Peter's characterization. [[ThisLoserIsYou Dan Slott hates Peter Parker.]] He thinks Peter Parker is his own worst enemy and incredibly self-destructive and toxic to the people around him. That...that's not Spider-Man.

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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you your audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own. [...] I think this leads into the biggest point of contention between Slott and fans about Peter's characterization. [[ThisLoserIsYou Dan Slott hates Peter Parker.]] He thinks Peter Parker is his own worst enemy and incredibly self-destructive and toxic to the people around him. That...that's not Spider-Man.
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-->-- "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dlpb5VBYMo How Nick Spencer Redeemed Spider-Man]]"

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-->-- '''[=GodzillaMendoza=]''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dlpb5VBYMo How Nick Spencer Redeemed Spider-Man]]"

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!!Internet Reviewers



->[[http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=137987071 "Is this what the aliens do for fun?]] At least they're not [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall playing ... computer games]].
-->-- '''[[TheEngineer Dr. Raymond Shen]]''', ''VideoGame/XCOMEnemyUnknown''



->'''Jeff [=McGarland=]:''' [You] pitched me a TV series against my will, not to mention holding up the autograph line. But my advanced TV executive instincts tell me your show is going to be a big hit.\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' Yes! I'm going to have my own show, on television! And then, all of these fans will be so in awe of me, they will do my bidding. It's actually happening! I am going to rule the Tri-State Area!\\
'''Jeff:''' Just a thought though, can we get the platypus a girlfriend?\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' What! Never! Oh, suddenly you know my characters better than me? Forget it! I'm no sellout. I just crassly calculated commercial appeal in a mad quest for financial gain. No, no, my artistic integrity and I are out! Peace!
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', "Nerds of a Feather''

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->'''Jeff [=McGarland=]:''' [You] pitched me a TV series against my will, not to mention holding up the autograph line. But my advanced TV executive instincts tell me your show is going ->This hatred [towards ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fans] doesn't just manifest in insulting wankery like having it turn out to be a big hit.fucking boomerang, or deliberately re-writing one of the first proto-feminist icons in crime-fiction to be a sexy kung-fu dominatrix in love with the main character, but in how the show directly tells you that, if you're a fan, you should personally go and fuck yourself.\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' Yes! I'm going to have my own show, on television! And then, all of these fans will be so in awe of me, they will do my bidding. It's actually happening! I am going to rule the Tri-State Area!\\
'''Jeff:''' Just a thought though, can we get the platypus a girlfriend?\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' What! Never! Oh, suddenly you know my
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[...] Season 3 features several
characters better than me? Forget it! I'm no sellout. I just crassly calculated commercial appeal whose sole job it is to [[ThisLoserIsYou portray fan theories and theorists and make fun of them and call them stupid for bothering to try and figure out what happened based on the information given to them by the show]]. [...] People trying to figure out the ''mystery'' in a mad quest for financial gain. No, no, my artistic integrity and I ''mystery-story'' are out! Peace!
presented as a little club of weirdos being weird together. The creator of the story appears to be so fundamentally ''incapable'' of recognizing how to tell a mystery, that he's perceived people ''treating'' it like one as ''insane''.
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', "Nerds of a Feather''
'''WebVideo/HBomberguy''', "[[https://youtu.be/LkoGBOs5ecM?t=1h34m27s Sherlock Is Garbage, And Here's Why]]"



-> “[[EmbarrassingNickname Clocksie]],” Clockblocker said, deadpan, “Has been the target of a lot of criticism, because he was in charge of the Wards at the time a lot of stuff went down. [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Some dingbats online speculated that I had a thing for Weaver, and it took off. The people online like to find stuff that fills in blanks]], and there were a hell of a lot of blanks around the whole thing with [[ReformedCriminal Weaver]] defecting, and our pseudo-truce with the Undersiders.”
-->-- '''Clockblocker''', ''Literature/{{Worm}}''



->Yes, this is a stock market game, and is likely to be the death knell to my sanity because you, Goony [=McGoons=], are going to be my financial advisors. I am putting my financial wellbeing in your hands. Your (surely) very capable hands.\\\
I think I want to cry.
-->-- ''[[Website/SomethingAwful Novasol]]'', ''[[http://lparchive.org/Wall-Street-Kid/ Let's Play Wall Street Kid]]

->So let's take a look at these here messages we received. I'll answer them on Director Chii's behalf- OK, here we go: "Can you guys like, speed this shit up a little bit- I mean the series ended in April 2011...". [[PunctuatedForEmphasis No. We. Can't.]] "GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASSES AND UPLOAD EPISODE 3 ALREADY". No, and also - '''[[PrecisionFStrike fuck you]]''' [...] Basically, what I'm trying to say is '''leave Director Chii alone'''. Sending her nasty messages about this won't make an episode come out any faster.
-->-- ''[[WebVideo/MedukaMeguca Sakura Kyoko]]'', ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RSjjudR5uE Meduka Meguca, Episode 3]]

->'''LetsPlay/LewisBrindley:''' Hello, and welcome back to ''[[VideoGame/PropHunt Prop Huuuunnnt]]''!\\
''(general cheering)''\\
'''Lewis:''' Me, LetsPlay/HatFilms, Martyn, how you doing? Hello, [[LetsPlay/{{Turpster}} Turps]]...\\
'''[[LetsPlay/InTheLittleWood Martyn]]:''' Hello!\\
''(introductions continue for a bit)''\\
'''Ross:''' LetsPlay/{{Sips}} is away... gone permanently...\\
'''Martyn:''' [[SarcasmMode I've replaced him forever]]... [[HateDumb Just so you know]]...
-->-- The LetsPlay/{{Yogscast}}, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msug4ogVVWg&list=UUH-_hzb2ILSCo9ftVSnrCIQ "Gmod Prop Hunt #3: Annoying Orange]], filmed in ''VideoGame/PropHunt'', directed at detractors who falsely claimed Martyn was a ReplacementScrappy for Sips



->The reason [[Wrestling/ImpactWrestling TNA]] took Wrestling/SamoaJoe away from Wrestling/RingOfHonor was to protect him from YOU PEOPLE! They know that Joe would have killed himself just to make you happy. But you would never be happy. You are never happy. And now Joe is only gone two months you have already forgotten about him. You've forgotten about Samoa Joe. You've forgotten about Wrestling/CMPunk. I give you one week before you forget about everything that Wrestling/ColtCabana ever did for you. You're only waiting for the next young kid to come up - someone like Davey Richards, Rocky Romero or [[Wrestling/HunterJohnston Delirious]], so you can bleed them dry too.
-->-- '''Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels''', ''Good Times, Great Memories''

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->The reason [[Wrestling/ImpactWrestling TNA]] took Wrestling/SamoaJoe away from Wrestling/RingOfHonor was to protect him from YOU PEOPLE! They know that Joe would have killed himself just to make you happy. But you would never be happy. You are never happy. And now Joe is only gone two months you have already forgotten about him. You've forgotten about Samoa Joe. You've forgotten about Wrestling/CMPunk. I give you one week before you forget about everything that Wrestling/ColtCabana ever did !!Fiction
->[[http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=137987071 "Is this what the aliens do
for you. You're only waiting for the next young kid to come up - someone like Davey Richards, Rocky Romero or [[Wrestling/HunterJohnston Delirious]], so you can bleed them dry too.
fun?]] At least they're not [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall playing ... computer games]].
-->-- '''Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels''', ''Good Times, Great Memories''
'''[[TheEngineer Dr. Raymond Shen]]''', ''VideoGame/XCOMEnemyUnknown''

->'''Jeff [=McGarland=]:''' [You] pitched me a TV series against my will, not to mention holding up the autograph line. But my advanced TV executive instincts tell me your show is going to be a big hit.\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' Yes! I'm going to have my own show, on television! And then, all of these fans will be so in awe of me, they will do my bidding. It's actually happening! I am going to rule the Tri-State Area!\\
'''Jeff:''' Just a thought though, can we get the platypus a girlfriend?\\
'''Doofenshmirtz:''' What! Never! Oh, suddenly you know my characters better than me? Forget it! I'm no sellout. I just crassly calculated commercial appeal in a mad quest for financial gain. No, no, my artistic integrity and I are out! Peace!
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', "Nerds of a Feather''

-> “[[EmbarrassingNickname Clocksie]],” Clockblocker said, deadpan, “Has been the target of a lot of criticism, because he was in charge of the Wards at the time a lot of stuff went down. [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Some dingbats online speculated that I had a thing for Weaver, and it took off. The people online like to find stuff that fills in blanks]], and there were a hell of a lot of blanks around the whole thing with [[ReformedCriminal Weaver]] defecting, and our pseudo-truce with the Undersiders.”
-->-- '''Clockblocker''', ''Literature/{{Worm}}''



->This hatred [towards ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' fans] doesn't just manifest in insulting wankery like having it turn out to be a fucking boomerang, or deliberately re-writing one of the first proto-feminist icons in crime-fiction to be a sexy kung-fu dominatrix in love with the main character, but in how the show directly tells you that, if you're a fan, you should personally go and fuck yourself.\\
\\
[...] Season 3 features several characters whose sole job it is to [[ThisLoserIsYou portray fan theories and theorists and make fun of them and call them stupid for bothering to try and figure out what happened based on the information given to them by the show]]. [...] People trying to figure out the ''mystery'' in a ''mystery-story'' are presented as a little club of weirdos being weird together. The creator of the story appears to be so fundamentally ''incapable'' of recognizing how to tell a mystery, that he's perceived people ''treating'' it like one as ''insane''.
-->-- '''WebVideo/HBomberguy''', "[[https://youtu.be/LkoGBOs5ecM?t=1h34m27s Sherlock Is Garbage, And Here's Why]]"



->"Do people notice anything off? Yes and no. There's a somewhat ambivalent attitude in some of the replies here, but no one actually manages to work it out. You're capable of noticing that she gets a flareon and complaining about that, but are easily pacified with a loss against an eevee. A few people did manage to notice the translators are used inconsistently, but weren't able to really follow up on it. Most other things went entirely unmentioned. People could see a few of the surface issues, but not the underlying problems.

->"In the post-thirteen chapters, I simply allowed the existing problems to appear. They weren't created by the absol. The absol acts to negate whatever is suppressing the problems, but understand, this was how things should have been from the start.

->"Reread the story and it's all there. The girl back in Chapter Seven who said Silver wasn't a battler? You know, the one who Lucki called a jealous *** for her comments, and you agreed? She was telling the truth. The story explicitly says in the first chapter that shiny pokemon are rarely as strong as their normal counterparts, and Silver is described, over and over again, as tiny, young, timid, and petite. She was not capable of being a good battler. Flare had abandonment issues anyone but Lucki could have seen from orbit, and his losses in battle are more from Lucki's utter lack of a strategy for him than any weakness on his part, not that it stops her from blaming him for it. Tryke? Was a little kid who'd gotten out of sight of his parents. Saurius leaves with Lucki right after his herd was shown to be at risk of poaching. It's inevitable that it would happen again, just as it's inevitable that Lucki, who only teamed up with Saurius because she wanted to get back at Magma for stealing her pokemon, wouldn't do anything when she heard the news.

->"And the absol. The absol fought tooth and nail against capture, but Lucki caught her anyway.

->"You thought Lucki was being kind and understanding when she refused to let Fara go, disparaged her reasons, and condescendingly decided the only real reason Fara could possibly not want to abandon her life in order to be beaten up for a stranger's glory was that Fara didn't know how nice and wonderful trainers are. You thought Lucki was being nice when she told Fara she knew more about absol than an absol and brushed off Fara's warning as she'd brushed off Fara's demand for release. Not because of kindness. Because Fara was rare and beautiful and strong and Lucki wanted her, nothing more.

->"Fara told Lucki to release her three times. Lucki refused three times.

->"Lucki is you.

->"Because that's the other half, your reaction. You cheered her on. You assumed she was in the right. By the end, Lucki is outright abusive to Flare, and you don't notice. Raiden has a nightmare, and you brush it off as unrelated to actual events. Saurius' herd is recaptured, but you don't think anything of Lucki just continuing on her way. Silver has a breakdown, and you notice how inconvenient it is for Lucki. Keegan saves Lucki's life, but when Lucki finds out he's in Team Magma and declares him her enemy, you're rushing to the end right along with her. You agreed with what she did.

->"So the good guys are whoever's helping her, and the bad guys are whoever isn't. Who needs to wonder at their reasons? She's always right and other people are always wrong. Anyone who criticizes her is doing it out of jealousy, because no one could be better or kinder or know more than her. She says she's friends with her pokemon but only notices them when they're inconvenient and doesn't have or want an equal relationship with any of them. She never has to sacrifice what she wants for what they want, and she never would. She doesn't think about anyone else but herself, because after all, she's the only one important.

->"So she destroys the world to get back at a boy who saved her life and a pokemon who would have died for her.

->"This is the story of a girl...who cried a river and drowned the whole world."
-->'''Farla''', ''[[https://forums.serebii.net/threads/lucki.105650/page-8 Lucki]]''
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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own. [...] I think this leads into the biggest point of contention between Slott and fans about Peter's characterization. [[ThisLoserIsYou Dan Slott hates Peter Parker.]] He thinks Peter Parker is his own worst enemy and incredibly self-destructive to the people around him. That...that's not Spider-Man.

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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own. [...] I think this leads into the biggest point of contention between Slott and fans about Peter's characterization. [[ThisLoserIsYou Dan Slott hates Peter Parker.]] He thinks Peter Parker is his own worst enemy and incredibly self-destructive and toxic to the people around him. That...that's not Spider-Man.
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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own.

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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own. [...] I think this leads into the biggest point of contention between Slott and fans about Peter's characterization. [[ThisLoserIsYou Dan Slott hates Peter Parker.]] He thinks Peter Parker is his own worst enemy and incredibly self-destructive to the people around him. That...that's not Spider-Man.
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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having no lasting effect or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own.

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->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having [[StatusQuoIsGod no lasting effect effect]] or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own.
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->But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having no lasting effect or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own.

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->But ->Given Slott's less-than-stellar relationship with the fans, that does a lot to get long-time Spidey readers back into the back. [...] But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having no lasting effect or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own.
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->But in order for my analysis of [[ComicBook/NickSpencersSpiderMan Spencer's book]] to make sense, I better give some context regarding why the book is so out of line with [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan Slott's vision]]. Dan Slott isn't an inhenerently bad writer, in fact I've loved a couple of his stories. But he's made a lot of decisions to deliberately piss off fans of the book because he has this mantra: 'It's good to show contempt for you audience, just ask Michael Bay!' He was never afraid to challenge the status quo of Spider-Man or try new things. But the irritation with Spidey fans came from his decisions usually having no lasting effect or trampling on established and consistent ideas to fit his own.
-->-- "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dlpb5VBYMo How Nick Spencer Redeemed Spider-Man]]"

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