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->Vice is punished, but virtue is not rewarded.

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->Vice ->''Vice is punished, but virtue is not rewarded.''


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->''Life -- the way it really is -- is a battle not between good and bad, but between bad and worse.''
-->-- '''Joseph Brodsky'''
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-->-- ''RoadToPerdition''

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-->-- ''RoadToPerdition''
''Film/RoadToPerdition''
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\n\n-->--''Literature/{{Worm}}'', [[http://parahumans.wordpress.com/2012/08/18/snare-13-7/ Snare 13.7]]

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->'''[[TheCape Legend]]:''' So where do you stand, then? Where do you see yourself in terms of the sliding scale of good and evil, heroes and villains?
->'''[[VillainProtagonist Skitter]]:''' All of the above? None of the above? Does it matter? Some of us wear the villain label with pride, because they want to rebel against the norms, because it’s a harder, more rewarding road to travel, or because being a ‘hero’ often means so very little. But few people really want to see themselves as being bad or evil, whatever label they wear. I’ve done things I regret, I’ve done things I’m proud of, and I’ve walked the roads in between. The sliding scale is a fantasy. There’s no simple answers.
->'''Legend:''' There can be. [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood You could do what’s right.]]
->'''Skitter:''' Speak for yourself. You want to hide here while [[NobleDemon my group]] and [[ThoseWackyNazis Hookwolf]] deal with the brunt of the [[TheDreaded Nine]]’s attention. [[BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork Just like you did with the ABB.]]
->'''Legend:''' That happened under [[TheCowl Armsmaster]]’s leadership. You can’t blame us for being [[PragmaticHero intelligent]] about how we go about this.
->'''Skitter:''' I can blame you for being cowards. I’m going. If you want to talk about morality, start by talking to [[FallenHero Armsmaster]].


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->"That woman deserves her revenge, and we deserve to die... But then again, so does she. So I guess we'll just have to see, won't we?"
-->Budd, ''KillBill''.

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->"That ->That woman deserves her revenge, and we deserve to die... But then again, so does she. So I guess we'll just have to see, won't we?"
-->Budd, ''KillBill''.
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-->-- '''Budd''', ''Film/KillBill''
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->"That woman deserves her revenge, and we deserve to die... But then again, so does she. So I guess we'll just have to see, won't we?"
-->Budd, ''KillBill''.
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-> Goodness has only once found a perfect incarnation in a human body and never will again, but evil can always find a home there. Human nature is not black and white but black and grey.

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-> Goodness ->Goodness has only once found a perfect incarnation in a human body and never will again, but evil can always find a home there. Human nature is not black and white but black and grey.



-->-- '''Creator/GeorgeOrwell''', ''"Raffles and Miss Blandish"''

-> '''Michael Sullivan:''' He murdered Annie and Peter!
-> '''John Rooney:''' There are only murderers in this room! Michael! Open your eyes! This is the life we chose, the life we lead. And there is only one guarantee - none of us will see heaven.
-> '''Michael Sullivan:''' Michael could.
-> '''John Rooney:''' Then do everything that you can to see that that happens.

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-->-- '''Creator/GeorgeOrwell''', ''"Raffles "Raffles and Miss Blandish"''

-> '''Michael
Blandish"

->'''Michael
Sullivan:''' He murdered Annie and Peter!
-> '''John ->'''John Rooney:''' There are only murderers in this room! Michael! Open your eyes! This is the life we chose, the life we lead. And there is only one guarantee - none of us will see heaven.
-> '''Michael ->'''Michael Sullivan:''' Michael could.
-> '''John ->'''John Rooney:''' Then do everything that you can to see that that happens.



-> Sometimes life seems so complicated. Nothing is truly good or truly evil. Everything seems to be a shade of grey. And then you spend some time with a man like Dukat, and you realize that there is such a thing as truly evil.

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-> Sometimes ->Sometimes life seems so complicated. Nothing is truly good or truly evil. Everything seems to be a shade of grey. And then you spend some time with a man like Dukat, and you realize that there is such a thing as truly evil.



->''"I think her bad guys are badder than my bad guys."''

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->''"I ->I think her bad guys are badder than my bad guys."''



->''"What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so [[DesignatedVillain you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy."]] So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. [[DirtyCoward You just know how to hide, how to lie.]] Me, I don't have that problem. Me, [[AtLeastIAdmitIt I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.]] So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!"''

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->''"What ->What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so [[DesignatedVillain you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy."]] So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. [[DirtyCoward You just know how to hide, how to lie.]] Me, I don't have that problem. Me, [[AtLeastIAdmitIt I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.]] So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!"''way!



->"My job is to keep the majority of the people in this country alive. That’s it. If fifty-one percent eat a meal tomorrow and forty-nine percent don’t, I’ve done my job."
-->-- [[JosefStalin "The Beast"]], former U.S. President
->"I wanted to be the President so I could fuck with people!"
-->-- [[TheCaligula Garry "The Smiler" Callahan]], current U.S. President, ''{{Transmetropolitan}}''

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->"My ->'''Ex-President [[JosefStalin "The Beast"]]:''' My job is to keep the majority of the people in this country alive. That’s it. If fifty-one percent eat a meal tomorrow and forty-nine percent don’t, I’ve done my job."
-->-- [[JosefStalin
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->'''President [[TheCaligula Garry
"The Beast"]], former U.S. President
->"I
Smiler" Callahan]]:''' I wanted to be the President so I could fuck with people!"
people!
-->-- [[TheCaligula Garry "The Smiler" Callahan]], current U.S. President, ''{{Transmetropolitan}}''



-->-- '''Poet and WorldWarII Propagandist C. Day Lewis''', ''Where are the War Poets?''

->''"When will you fools learn that there are no battles fought by heroes?"''

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-->-- '''Poet Poet and WorldWarII Propagandist C. '''C. Day Lewis''', ''Where "Where are the War Poets?''

->''"When
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->When
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->...the hero, who is intended to be a sympathetic and perhaps even noble character, is described as [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown stamping on somebody's face]], and then, having crushed the man's mouth in, grinding his heel round and round in it. Even when physical incidents of this kind are not occurring, the mental atmosphere of these books is always the same... If ultimately one sides with the police against the gangsters, it is merely because they are better organized and more powerful, because, in fact, the law is a bigger racket than crime.

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->... the hero, who is intended to be a sympathetic and perhaps even noble character, is described as [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown stamping on somebody's face]], and then, having crushed the man's mouth in, grinding his heel round and round in it. Even when physical incidents of this kind are not occurring, the mental atmosphere of these books is always the same... If ultimately one sides with the police against the gangsters, it is merely because they are better organized and more powerful, because, in fact, the law is a bigger racket than crime.
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-->-- '''[[SuperSoldier Space Marine]] [[PsychicPowers Librarian]]''', ''[[{{Warhammer 40000}} Warhammer 40,000]]: DawnOfWar''

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-->-- '''[[SuperSoldier Space Marine]] [[PsychicPowers Librarian]]''', ''[[{{Warhammer 40000}} Warhammer 40,000]]: ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}: DawnOfWar''



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-->-- '''Sisko''', ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''

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-->-- '''Sisko''', ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''
''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''



-->-- '''Echo''', ''{{Dollhouse}}''

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-->-- '''Echo''', ''{{Dollhouse}}''
''Series/{{Dollhouse}}''
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->''"When will you fools learn that there are no battles fought by heroes?"''
-->-- '''Talpa''', ''RoninWarriors''

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-->-- '''GeorgeOrwell'''

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-->-- '''GeorgeOrwell'''
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-->-- '''GeorgeOrwell''', ''"Raffles and Miss Blandish"''

-> '''Michael Sullivan:''' He murdered Annie and Peter!

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-->-- '''GeorgeOrwell''', '''Creator/GeorgeOrwell''', ''"Raffles and Miss Blandish"''

-> '''Michael Sullivan:''' He murdered Annie and Peter! Peter!



-> Sometimes life seems so complicated. Nothing is truly good or truly evil. Everything seems to be a shade of grey. And then you spend some time with a man like Dukat, and you realize that there is such a thing as truly evil.
-->-- '''Sisko''', ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''

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-> Sometimes life seems so complicated. Nothing is truly good or truly evil. Everything seems to be a shade of grey. And then you spend some time with a man like Dukat, and you realize that there is such a thing as truly evil.
evil.
-->-- '''Sisko''', ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''
''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''



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-->-- '''The titular Max Payne'', ''MaxPayne''

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-->-- '''The titular Max Payne'', ''MaxPayne''
'''Max Payne''', ''VideoGame/MaxPayne''
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->"If tomorrow fifty-five percent of the population gets a meal and forty-five doesn't, I consider my work done. And you'd better appreciate it, cause it's fucking '''hard'''.
-->-- [[JosefStalin "The Beast"]], former US President
->" I want to be the President so I could fuck with people!"
-->-- [[TheCaligula Garry "The Smiler" Callahan]], current US President, ''{{Transmetropolitan}}''

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->"If ->"My job is to keep the majority of the people in this country alive. That’s it. If fifty-one percent eat a meal tomorrow fifty-five and forty-nine percent of the population gets a meal and forty-five doesn't, I consider don’t, I’ve done my work done. And you'd better appreciate it, cause it's fucking '''hard'''.
job."
-->-- [[JosefStalin "The Beast"]], former US U.S. President
->" I want ->"I wanted to be the President so I could fuck with people!"
-->-- [[TheCaligula Garry "The Smiler" Callahan]], current US U.S. President, ''{{Transmetropolitan}}''
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'''Phyllis:''' We're both rotten.
'''Walter Neff:''' Only you're a little more rotten.

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'''Phyllis:''' ->'''Phyllis:''' We're both rotten.
'''Walter ->'''Walter Neff:''' Only you're a little more rotten.
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'''Phyllis:''' We're both rotten.
'''Walter Neff:''' Only you're a little more rotten.
-->-- ''DoubleIndemnity''
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->...the hero, who is intended to be a sympathetic and perhaps even noble character, is described as [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown stamping on somebody's face]], and then, having crushed the man's mouth in, grinding his feel round and round in it. Even when physical incidents of this kind are not occurring, the mental atmosphere of these books is always the same... If ultimately one sides with the police against the gangsters, it is merely because they are better organized and more powerful, because, in fact, the law is a bigger racket than crime.

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->...the hero, who is intended to be a sympathetic and perhaps even noble character, is described as [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown stamping on somebody's face]], and then, having crushed the man's mouth in, grinding his feel heel round and round in it. Even when physical incidents of this kind are not occurring, the mental atmosphere of these books is always the same... If ultimately one sides with the police against the gangsters, it is merely because they are better organized and more powerful, because, in fact, the law is a bigger racket than crime.
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-->-- '''Max Payne''', ''MaxPayne 2''

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-->-- '''Max Payne''', ''MaxPayne 2''
'''The titular Max Payne'', ''MaxPayne''
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-->--'''GeorgeOrwell'''

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-->--'''GeorgeOrwell'''
-->-- '''GeorgeOrwell'''



-->--'''Max Payne''', ''MaxPayne 2''

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-->--'''Max -->-- '''Max Payne''', ''MaxPayne 2''



-->--'''Tom Servo''', ''MysteryScienceTheater3000'': ''{{Escape 2000}}''

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-->--'''Tom -->-- '''Tom Servo''', ''MysteryScienceTheater3000'': ''{{Escape 2000}}''



-->--'''David Crosby''', "Hero"

->"If tomorrow fifty five percent of the population gets a meal and forty five doesn't, I consider my work done. And you'd better appreciate it, cause it's fucking '''hard'''.

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-->--'''David -->-- '''David Crosby''', "Hero"

->"If tomorrow fifty five fifty-five percent of the population gets a meal and forty five forty-five doesn't, I consider my work done. And you'd better appreciate it, cause it's fucking '''hard'''.
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-->--'''GeorgeOrwell'''
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-->-- '''Poet and WorldWarII Propagandist C. Day Lewis''', ''Where are the war poets?''

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-->-- '''Poet and WorldWarII Propagandist C. Day Lewis''', ''Where are the war poets?''War Poets?''

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-->"If tomorrow fifty five percent of the population gets a meal and forty five doesn't, I consider my work done. And you'd better appreciate it, cause it's fucking '''hard'''.

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-->"If ->"If tomorrow fifty five percent of the population gets a meal and forty five doesn't, I consider my work done. And you'd better appreciate it, cause it's fucking '''hard'''.



-->" I want to be the President so I could fuck with people!"

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-->" ->" I want to be the President so I could fuck with people!"


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->It is the logic of our times,\\
No subject for immortal verse -\\
That we who lived by honest dreams\\
Defend the bad against the worse.
-->-- '''Poet and WorldWarII Propagandist C. Day Lewis''', ''Where are the war poets?''

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--> '''Michael Sullivan:''' He murdered Annie and Peter!
--> '''John Rooney:''' There are only murderers in this room! Michael! Open your eyes! This is the life we chose, the life we lead. And there is only one guarantee - none of us will see heaven.
--> '''Michael Sullivan:''' Michael could.
--> '''John Rooney:''' Then do everything that you can to see that that happens.


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-> '''Michael Sullivan:''' He murdered Annie and Peter!
-> '''John Rooney:''' There are only murderers in this room! Michael! Open your eyes! This is the life we chose, the life we lead. And there is only one guarantee - none of us will see heaven.
-> '''Michael Sullivan:''' Michael could.
-> '''John Rooney:''' Then do everything that you can to see that that happens.
-->-- ''RoadToPerdition''
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--> '''Michael Sullivan:''' He murdered Annie and Peter!
--> '''John Rooney:''' There are only murderers in this room! Michael! Open your eyes! This is the life we chose, the life we lead. And there is only one guarantee - none of us will see heaven.
--> '''Michael Sullivan:''' Michael could.
--> '''John Rooney:''' Then do everything that you can to see that that happens.
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-->-- [[JosefStalin Bob "The Beast" Heller]], former US President

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-->-- [[JosefStalin Bob "The Beast" Heller]], Beast"]], former US President
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-->"If tomorrow fifty five percent of the population gets a meal and forty five doesn't, I consider my work done. And you'd better appreciate it, cause it's fucking '''hard'''.
-->-- [[JosefStalin Bob "The Beast" Heller]], former US President
-->" I want to be the President so I could fuck with people!"
-->-- [[TheCaligula Garry "The Smiler" Callahan]], current US President, ''{{Transmetropolitan}}''
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->''"What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so [[DesignatedVillain you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy."]] So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. [[DirtyCoward You just know how to hide, how to lie.]] Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!"''

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->''"What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so [[DesignatedVillain you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy."]] So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. [[DirtyCoward You just know how to hide, how to lie.]] Me, I don't have that problem. Me, [[AtLeastIAdmitIt I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. ]] So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!"''
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->Shadow and shade mix together at dawn
->But by the time you catch them simplicity's gone.
->So we sort through the pieces, my friends and I.
->Searching through the darkness to find the breaks in the sky.
->...
->The villain goes to jail while the hero goes free.
->I wish it were that simple for me.
-->--'''David Crosby''', "Hero"
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->''"I think her bad guys are badder than my bad guys."''
-->-- '''Echo''', ''{{Dollhouse}}''

->''"What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so [[DesignatedVillain you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy."]] So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. [[DirtyCoward You just know how to hide, how to lie.]] Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!"''
-->-- '''Tony Montana''', ''{{Scarface}}''
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->...the hero, who is intended to be a sympathetic and perhaps even noble character, is described as stamping on somebody's face, and then, having crushed the man's mouth in, grinding his feel round and round in it. Even when physical incidents of this kind are not occurring, the mental atmosphere of these books is always the same... If ultimately one sides with the police against the gangsters, it is merely because they are better organized and more powerful, because, in fact, the law is a bigger racket than crime.

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->...the hero, who is intended to be a sympathetic and perhaps even noble character, is described as [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown stamping on somebody's face, face]], and then, having crushed the man's mouth in, grinding his feel round and round in it. Even when physical incidents of this kind are not occurring, the mental atmosphere of these books is always the same... If ultimately one sides with the police against the gangsters, it is merely because they are better organized and more powerful, because, in fact, the law is a bigger racket than crime.

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