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** Hardball uses a OneHitKO move if players so much as get in his range.
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** Hardball uses a OneHitKO move if players so much as get in his range. It can be parried, but not a single enemy before him has had a parry-only attack.
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* '''Subverted''': Once the player learns Hardball's weakness, he goes down without a fight...
* '''Double Subverted''': ... but reveals his demonic [[OneWingedAngel second form]] that's much harder than his first.
* '''Double Subverted''': ... but reveals his demonic [[OneWingedAngel second form]] that's much harder than his first.
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* '''Subverted''': Once the player learns Hardball's weakness, he goes down without a fight...
fight.
* '''Double Subverted''': ... but until he reveals his demonic [[OneWingedAngel second form]] that's much harder than his first.first, and truly can't be beaten unless you're good at the game.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...
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* '''Lampshaded''':
** "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have paid more attention to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
** "Don't think I'm going to go easy on you just because you're new meat!"
** "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have paid more attention to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
** "Don't think I'm going to go easy on you just because you're new meat!"
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* '''Lampshaded''':
** "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have paid more attention to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
**'''Lampshaded''': "Don't think I'm going to go easy on you just because you're new meat!"
** "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have paid more attention to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
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* '''Defied''': Hardball is a TechnicalPacifist that beats the heroes within an inch of their life, [[HopelessBossFight but lets them continue with their adventure]].
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* '''Defied''': Hardball is a TechnicalPacifist that who beats the heroes within an inch of their life, lives, [[HopelessBossFight but lets them continue with their adventure]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': Hardball is [[ThatOneBoss disproportionately difficult]] in comparison to the rest of the game. Less experienced players [[RageQuit give up trying to beat him]], while those who do [[TheScrappy treat him with revulsion]]. The developer admits this was all because of poor play testing, and publicly apologizes for this moment.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** The play testers catch on to how difficult this boss battle is for when he appears. Rather than {{nerf}}ing him, the developers make him a {{superboss}} that can be ignored by inexperienced players, but will reward players that have mastered certain skills at that point in the game.
** [[NintendoHard The game was never meant to be easy to begin with]], and Hardball is simply intended to mark the beginning of its DifficultySpike. The battle with Hardball becomes one of the game's most memorable moments, and the character himself becomes an EnsembleDarkhorse.
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evulz,]] Evulz is revealed as a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** The play testers catch on to how difficult this boss battle is for when he appears. Rather than {{nerf}}ing him, the developers make him a {{superboss}} that can be ignored by inexperienced players, but will reward players that have mastered certain skills at that point in the game.
** [[NintendoHard The game was never meant to be easy to begin with]], and Hardball is simply intended to mark the beginning of its DifficultySpike. The battle with Hardball becomes one of the game's most memorable moments, and the character himself becomes an EnsembleDarkhorse.
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evulz,]] Evulz is revealed as a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''Conversed''': "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have paid more attention to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
* '''Deconstructed''': Hardball is [[ThatOneBoss disproportionately difficult]] in comparison to the rest of the game. Less experienced players [[RageQuit give up trying to beat him]], while those who do[[TheScrappy treat him with revulsion]].revulsion. The developer admits this was all because of poor play testing, and publicly apologizes for this moment.
*'''Reconstructed''':
** The play testers catch on to how difficult this boss battle is for when he appears. Rather than {{nerf}}ing him, the developers make him a {{superboss}} that can be ignored by inexperienced players, but will reward players that have mastered certain skills at that point in the game.
**'''Reconstructed''': [[NintendoHard The game was never meant to be easy to begin with]], and Hardball is simply intended to mark the beginning of its DifficultySpike. The battle with Hardball becomes one of the game's most memorable moments, and the character himself becomes an EnsembleDarkhorse.
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Not only is Hardball aridiculous ridiculously tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the a game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evulz,]] Evulz is revealed as a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
* '''Deconstructed''': Hardball is [[ThatOneBoss disproportionately difficult]] in comparison to the rest of the game. Less experienced players [[RageQuit give up trying to beat him]], while those who do
*
** The play testers catch on to how difficult this boss battle is for when he appears. Rather than {{nerf}}ing him, the developers make him a {{superboss}} that can be ignored by inexperienced players, but will reward players that have mastered certain skills at that point in the game.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Not only is Hardball a
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** "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have payed more attention to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
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'''Basic Trope''': A hard boss early in the game, often forcing players to reconsider their play-style.
* '''Straight''': Hardball uses grappling moves that are effective against players who have used ButtonMashing to get through the game.
* '''Straight''': Hardball uses grappling moves that are effective against players who have used ButtonMashing to get through the game.
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'''Basic Trope''': A The first hard boss early in the game, often signaling a DifficultySpike and/or forcing novice players to reconsider their play-style.
* '''Straight''':Hardball [[MeaningfulName Hardball]] uses grappling moves that are effective against players who have used ButtonMashing to get through the game.
* '''Straight''':
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* '''Reconstructed''': [[NintendoHard The game was never meant to be easy to begin with]], and Hardball is simply intended to mark the beginning of its DifficultySpike. The battle with Hardball becomes one of the game's most memorable moments, and the character himself becomes an EnsembleDarkhorse.
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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
** The play testers catch on to how difficult this boss battle is for when he appears. Rather than {{nerf}}ing him, the developers make him a {{superboss}} that can be ignored by inexperienced players, but will reward players that have mastered certain skills at that point in the game.
** [[NintendoHard The game was never meant to be easy to begin with]], and Hardball is simply intended to mark the beginning of its DifficultySpike. The battle with Hardball becomes one of the game's most memorable moments, and the character himself becomes an EnsembleDarkhorse.
** The play testers catch on to how difficult this boss battle is for when he appears. Rather than {{nerf}}ing him, the developers make him a {{superboss}} that can be ignored by inexperienced players, but will reward players that have mastered certain skills at that point in the game.
** [[NintendoHard The game was never meant to be easy to begin with]], and Hardball is simply intended to mark the beginning of its DifficultySpike. The battle with Hardball becomes one of the game's most memorable moments, and the character himself becomes an EnsembleDarkhorse.
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* '''Discussed''': "Careful, now. That guy Hardball doesn't look like he'll be as easy as anything we've already encountered, so prepare for a real fight."
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* '''Exaggerated''': Hardball uses a OneHitKO move if players so much as get in his range.
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Hardball uses a OneHitKO move if players so much as get in his range.
** Hardball uses a OneHitKO move if players so much as get in his range.
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* '''Downplayed''': Hardball is tricky enough to surprise players, but not tough enough to [[ThatOneBoss force them to replay the battle over and over]].
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Hardball is tricky enough to surprise players, but not tough enough to [[ThatOneBoss force them to replay the battle over and over]].
** Hardball is tricky enough to surprise players, but not tough enough to [[ThatOneBoss force them to replay the battle over and over]].
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** The player is required to master several recently-introduced mechanics to defeat Hardball. This is in addition to Hardball using attacks unlike any previous boss with awkward hitboxes that need trial-and-error to properly figure out.
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** Hardball can be defeated with button mashing, but the player will need to be particularly lucky or burn through several healing items to survive Hardball's grapples.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste'':' Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evulz,]] Evulz is revealed as a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste'':' Waste''': Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evulz,]] Evulz is revealed as a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have payed more attention to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
** "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have payed more attention to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
** "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have payed more attention to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evulz,]] Evulz is revealed as a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Waste'':' Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evulz,]] Evulz is revealed as a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evilz,]] it turns out that he was only a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evilz,]] it turns out that he was only Evulz,]] Evulz is revealed as a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evilz,]] it turns out that he was only a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Not only is Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evilz,]] it turns out that he was only a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at at]] defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''PlottedAGoodWaste:''' Not only is hardball a ridiculous tough first boss,, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evilz,]] it turns out that he was only a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''PlottedAGoodWaste:''' '''Plotted A Good Waste:''' Not only is hardball Hardball a ridiculous tough first boss,, boss, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised.disorganised and disheveled, with infighting and panic being common. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evilz,]] it turns out that he was only a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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** "Don't think I'm going to go easy on you just because you're new meat!"
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*'''PlottedAGoodWaste:''' Not only is hardball a ridiculous tough first boss,, he's also the hardest boss in the game filled with them. As the player progress through the game, it becomes apparent that the evil forces are more and more disorganised. When the player finally reaches the end and defeats [[BigBad Emperor Evilz,]] it turns out that he was only a puppet ruler, and [[TheManBehindTheMan it turns out the true power behind the throne WAS Hardball.]] The Boss fight with him at the start on [[WrongGenreSavvy was an attempt at defying the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil that had GoneHorriblyWrong.
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* '''Parodied''': Hardball is a UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt {{expy}} with a gorilla's build.
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* '''Parodied''': The stretch leading up to Hardball is a UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt {{expy}} littered with a gorilla's build.the corpses of the playable character's past lives.
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* '''Parodied''': Hardball [[NeverBringAKnifeToAGunFight pulls out a gun against the fist-baring heroes]].
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* '''Parodied''': Hardball [[NeverBringAKnifeToAGunFight pulls out is a gun against the fist-baring heroes]].UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt {{expy}} with a gorilla's build.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have payed more attention tp the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have payed more attention tp to the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have payed more attention in the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have payed more attention in tp the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
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* '''Parodied''':
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* '''Parodied''': Hardball [[NeverBringAKnifeToAGunFight pulls out a gun against the fist-baring heroes]].
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Damn, this guy's tough. Should have payed more attention in the [[ForcedTutorial tutorial]]."
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* '''Deconstructed''': Hardball is [[ThatOneBoss disproportionately difficult]] in comparison to the rest of the game. Less experienced players give up trying to beat him, while those who do [[TheScrappy treat him with revulsion]]. The developer admits this was all because of poor play testing, and publicly apologizes for this moment.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Hardball is [[ThatOneBoss disproportionately difficult]] in comparison to the rest of the game. Less experienced players [[RageQuit give up trying to beat him, him]], while those who do [[TheScrappy treat him with revulsion]]. The developer admits this was all because of poor play testing, and publicly apologizes for this moment.
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'''Basic Trope''': A hard boss early in the game, often forcing players to reconsider their play-style.
* '''Straight''': Hardball uses grappling moves that are effective against players who have used ButtonMashing to get through the game.
* '''Exaggerated''': Hardball uses a OneHitKO move if players so much as get in his range.
* '''Downplayed''': Hardball is tricky enough to surprise players, but not tough enough to [[ThatOneBoss force them to replay the battle over and over]].
* '''Justified''':
** Hardball is a particularly early ClimaxBoss.
** Hardball is explicitly stated to be the best fighter of his kind.
** Hardball is a StealthMentor specifically trying to get the heroes ready to face tougher foes.
* '''Inverted''': Hardball is easier than the other bosses at that point in the game.
* '''Subverted''': Once the player learns Hardball's weakness, he goes down without a fight...
* '''Double Subverted''': ... but reveals his demonic [[OneWingedAngel second form]] that's much harder than his first.
* '''Parodied''':
* '''Averted''': Hardball is no harder than the other bosses at that point in the game.
* '''Enforced''': The developer thinks the game's difficulty curve isn't steep enough, so he puts Hardball in to throw players through a loop.
* '''Lampshaded''':
* '''Invoked''': Hardball's trained harder than his fellow henchmen to serve as more of a match to the heroes.
* '''Exploited''': The BigBad recognizes Hardball's dangerousness and uses him as a HeroKiller.
* '''Defied''': Hardball is a TechnicalPacifist that beats the heroes within an inch of their life, [[HopelessBossFight but lets them continue with their adventure]].
* '''Deconstructed''': Hardball is [[ThatOneBoss disproportionately difficult]] in comparison to the rest of the game. Less experienced players give up trying to beat him, while those who do [[TheScrappy treat him with revulsion]]. The developer admits this was all because of poor play testing, and publicly apologizes for this moment.
* '''Reconstructed''': [[NintendoHard The game was never meant to be easy to begin with]], and Hardball is simply intended to mark the beginning of its DifficultySpike. The battle with Hardball becomes one of the game's most memorable moments, and the character himself becomes an EnsembleDarkhorse.
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* '''Straight''': Hardball uses grappling moves that are effective against players who have used ButtonMashing to get through the game.
* '''Exaggerated''': Hardball uses a OneHitKO move if players so much as get in his range.
* '''Downplayed''': Hardball is tricky enough to surprise players, but not tough enough to [[ThatOneBoss force them to replay the battle over and over]].
* '''Justified''':
** Hardball is a particularly early ClimaxBoss.
** Hardball is explicitly stated to be the best fighter of his kind.
** Hardball is a StealthMentor specifically trying to get the heroes ready to face tougher foes.
* '''Inverted''': Hardball is easier than the other bosses at that point in the game.
* '''Subverted''': Once the player learns Hardball's weakness, he goes down without a fight...
* '''Double Subverted''': ... but reveals his demonic [[OneWingedAngel second form]] that's much harder than his first.
* '''Parodied''':
* '''Averted''': Hardball is no harder than the other bosses at that point in the game.
* '''Enforced''': The developer thinks the game's difficulty curve isn't steep enough, so he puts Hardball in to throw players through a loop.
* '''Lampshaded''':
* '''Invoked''': Hardball's trained harder than his fellow henchmen to serve as more of a match to the heroes.
* '''Exploited''': The BigBad recognizes Hardball's dangerousness and uses him as a HeroKiller.
* '''Defied''': Hardball is a TechnicalPacifist that beats the heroes within an inch of their life, [[HopelessBossFight but lets them continue with their adventure]].
* '''Deconstructed''': Hardball is [[ThatOneBoss disproportionately difficult]] in comparison to the rest of the game. Less experienced players give up trying to beat him, while those who do [[TheScrappy treat him with revulsion]]. The developer admits this was all because of poor play testing, and publicly apologizes for this moment.
* '''Reconstructed''': [[NintendoHard The game was never meant to be easy to begin with]], and Hardball is simply intended to mark the beginning of its DifficultySpike. The battle with Hardball becomes one of the game's most memorable moments, and the character himself becomes an EnsembleDarkhorse.
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