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* '''Justified:''' Sir Robert is a BloodKnight and is deliberately seeking strong opponents to sate his desire for combat now that Emperor Evulz is dead.

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Sir Robert is a BloodKnight and is deliberately seeking strong opponents to sate his desire for combat now that Emperor Evulz is dead.



* '''Inverted:''' ''You'' [[PlayAsABoss are the game's superboss]] as part of a MultiMookMelee mode consisting of every character in the game trying to kill you and steal your equipment.

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* '''Inverted:''' '''Inverted:'''
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''You'' [[PlayAsABoss are the game's superboss]] as part of a MultiMookMelee mode consisting of every character in the game trying to kill you and steal your equipment.equipment. You get to play as either Claidheamh on Easy Mode or as Sir Robert on Hard Mode.
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* '''Inverted:''' ''You'' are the game's superboss as part of a MultiMookMelee mode consisting of every character in the game trying to kill you and steal your equipment.

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* '''Inverted:''' ''You'' [[PlayAsABoss are the game's superboss superboss]] as part of a MultiMookMelee mode consisting of every character in the game trying to kill you and steal your equipment.
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** As if to spite all of the other {{Superboss}}es, [[RivalFinalBoss Claidheamh]] can take them all on (before you ask, ''[[WolfpackBoss yes, all at once]]'') and become even stronger than all of them in his separate [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures in each of the Tales of Troperia games]]. Upon completing this challenge, Sir Robert can challenge Claidheamh to a true fight, [[DuelBoss one-on-one]].

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** As if to spite all of the other {{Superboss}}es, you can play as [[RivalFinalBoss Claidheamh]] can and take them all on (before you ask, ''[[WolfpackBoss yes, all at once]]'') and become even stronger than all of them in his separate [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures in each of the Tales of Troperia games]]. Upon completing this challenge, Sir Robert can challenge Claidheamh to a true fight, [[DuelBoss one-on-one]].

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* '''Exaggerated''': You have to get the GoldenEnding in ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'', then do the entire game on NewGamePlus on a HarderThanHard playthrough to even get a shot of fighting the SNKBoss Infini the Wise. Fail and he deletes your entire save file.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
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You have to get the GoldenEnding in ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'', then do the entire game on NewGamePlus on a HarderThanHard playthrough to even get a shot of fighting the SNKBoss Infini the Wise. Fail and he deletes your entire save file.



* '''Downplayed:''' JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia has several OptionalBoss fights but none of them are stronger than Emperor Evulz.

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* '''Downplayed:''' JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia '''Downplayed:'''
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has several OptionalBoss fights but none of them are stronger than Emperor Evulz.



* '''Averted:''' JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia has no superbosses and the game ends after beating Emperor Evulz.

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* '''Averted:''' JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'' has no superbosses and the game ends after beating Emperor Evulz.
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** As if to spite all of the other {{Superboss}}es, [[RivalFinalBoss Claidheamh]] can take them all on (before you ask, ''[[WolfpackBoss yes, all at once]]'') and become even stronger than all of them in his separate [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures in each of the JustForFun/TalesOfTroperiaa games]]. Upon completing this challenge, Sir Robert can challenge Claidheamh to a true fight, [[DuelBoss one-on-one]].

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** As if to spite all of the other {{Superboss}}es, [[RivalFinalBoss Claidheamh]] can take them all on (before you ask, ''[[WolfpackBoss yes, all at once]]'') and become even stronger than all of them in his separate [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures in each of the JustForFun/TalesOfTroperiaa Tales of Troperia games]]. Upon completing this challenge, Sir Robert can challenge Claidheamh to a true fight, [[DuelBoss one-on-one]].
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* '''Straight''': After defeating Emperor Evulz at the end of ''Tales of Troperia'', you unlock the [[BonusDungeon Caverns of Ragnarok]] which contain a powerful Superboss called Blackhole. Sir will need to be much, ''much'' stronger to defeat Blackhole if he wants to obtain the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Ragnarok Sword]].
* '''Exaggerated''': You have to get the GoldenEnding in ''Tales of Troperia'', then do the entire game on NewGamePlus on a HarderThanHard playthrough to even get a shot of fighting the SNKBoss Infini the Wise. Fail and he deletes your entire save file.

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* '''Straight''': After defeating Emperor Evulz at the end of ''Tales of Troperia'', ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'', you unlock the [[BonusDungeon Caverns of Ragnarok]] which contain a powerful Superboss called Blackhole. Sir will need to be much, ''much'' stronger to defeat Blackhole if he wants to obtain the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Ragnarok Sword]].
* '''Exaggerated''': You have to get the GoldenEnding in ''Tales of Troperia'', ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'', then do the entire game on NewGamePlus on a HarderThanHard playthrough to even get a shot of fighting the SNKBoss Infini the Wise. Fail and he deletes your entire save file.



** In order to find the ????, you have to beat every other superboss in ''Tales of Troperia'', then get OneHundredPercentCompletion by beating out every of the fighters, having no losses, getting every ending and seeing every dialogue choice. After all that, you must return to the Ruins of Messiah to encounter the SNKBoss ????, which will wipe you out with every single move anyway.
** As if to spite all of the other {{Superboss}}es, [[RivalFinalBoss Claidheamh]] can take them all on (before you ask, ''[[WolfpackBoss yes, all at once]]'') and become even stronger than all of them in his separate [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures in each of the Tales of Troperia games]]. Upon completing this challenge, Sir Robert can challenge Claidheamh to a true fight, [[DuelBoss one-on-one]].
* '''Downplayed:''' Tales of Troperia has several OptionalBoss fights but none of them are stronger than Emperor Evulz.

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** In order to find the ????, you have to beat every other superboss in ''Tales of Troperia'', ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'', then get OneHundredPercentCompletion by beating out every of the fighters, having no losses, getting every ending and seeing every dialogue choice. After all that, you must return to the Ruins of Messiah to encounter the SNKBoss ????, which will wipe you out with every single move anyway.
** As if to spite all of the other {{Superboss}}es, [[RivalFinalBoss Claidheamh]] can take them all on (before you ask, ''[[WolfpackBoss yes, all at once]]'') and become even stronger than all of them in his separate [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures in each of the Tales of Troperia JustForFun/TalesOfTroperiaa games]]. Upon completing this challenge, Sir Robert can challenge Claidheamh to a true fight, [[DuelBoss one-on-one]].
* '''Downplayed:''' Tales of Troperia JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia has several OptionalBoss fights but none of them are stronger than Emperor Evulz.



* '''Averted:''' Tales of Troperia has no superbosses and the game ends after beating Emperor Evulz.

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* '''Averted:''' Tales of Troperia JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia has no superbosses and the game ends after beating Emperor Evulz.



** The developers decided to add fights with Jupiter, Infini the Wise, Broken Anomaly, Future Sir Robert, ???? and Claidheamh to the SNKBoss list because they were remaking ''Tales of Troperia'' as ''Tales of Troperia: Ultra Competition DX'' and felt that some new content would add some life to the game and reward veteran fans with something new.

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** The developers decided to add fights with Jupiter, Infini the Wise, Broken Anomaly, Future Sir Robert, ???? and Claidheamh to the SNKBoss list because they were remaking ''Tales of Troperia'' ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'' as ''Tales of Troperia: ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia: Ultra Competition DX'' and felt that some new content would add some life to the game and reward veteran fans with something new.



* '''Exploited:''' While Sir Robert and the party are busy searching for strong opponents to fight and treasure to seek, Emperor Evulz has resurrected from the dead just in time for ''Tales of Troperia II'' which begins with Evulzs stealing Sir Robert's post-game powers to empower himself.

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* '''Exploited:''' While Sir Robert and the party are busy searching for strong opponents to fight and treasure to seek, Emperor Evulz has resurrected from the dead just in time for ''Tales of Troperia ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia II'' which begins with Evulzs Evulz stealing Sir Robert's post-game powers to empower himself.



-->'''Bob''': "Remember when ''Tales of Troperia'' was all the rage and there was this cave with this guy called Blackhole?"\\

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-->'''Bob''': "Remember when ''Tales of Troperia'' ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'' was all the rage and there was this cave with this guy called Blackhole?"\\



** Blackhole is one of the strongest bosses in ''Tales of Troperia'' and very few are strong enough to reach him. Years of having only hostile monsters for company and visitors who only want to fight him for his weapon has caused him to lose all faith in humanity, transforming him into a merciless foe who holds nothing back.

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** Blackhole is one of the strongest bosses in ''Tales of Troperia'' ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia'' and very few are strong enough to reach him. Years of having only hostile monsters for company and visitors who only want to fight him for his weapon has caused him to lose all faith in humanity, transforming him into a merciless foe who holds nothing back.
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** Claidheamh decides to spite Sir Robert, and begins to start challenging every single superboss around, just to prove he's better than Sir Robert in every other way. Needless to say, everyone considers this petty on the highest level, [[EvenEvilHasStandards something that even the superbosses themselves agree on]].
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** Emperor Evulz is able to be refought, but if Sir Robert activates the special chalice before the final fight, Emperor Evulz will be given various buffs (or Sir Robert debuffs) to make the fight ''seem'' harder.


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** The developers included a bonus dungeon in the DownloadableContent for the game which includes challenges against both new and old bosses, ending with a special fight against Emperor Evulz's alternate form (which turns out to be way harder and bypasses the limits the final boss had).
** Sir Robert collected the "Ten Evil Arms" weapons through his journey. Upon defeating Emperor Evulz, the Ten Evil Arms will be called to Evulz hand, and Emperor Evulz will ascend to greater power, becoming [[PlanetDestroyer Planet Destroyer Evulz]]. Beating this version of Evulz results in an [[MultipleEndings Alternate]]/[[GoldenEnding True]] ending.

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* '''Straight''': After defeating Emperor Evulz at the end of ''Tales of Troperia'', you unlock the [[BonusDungeon Caverns of Ragnarok]] which contain a powerful Superboss called Blackhole. Bob will need to be much, ''much'' stronger to defeat Blackhole if he wants to obtain the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Ragnarok Sword]].

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* '''Straight''': After defeating Emperor Evulz at the end of ''Tales of Troperia'', you unlock the [[BonusDungeon Caverns of Ragnarok]] which contain a powerful Superboss called Blackhole. Bob Sir will need to be much, ''much'' stronger to defeat Blackhole if he wants to obtain the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Ragnarok Sword]].



** To unlock the Broken Anomaly, [[ViolationOfCommonSense you have to lose 255 times to every regular fighter in the game]], do a NewGamePlus playthrough without saving once, do another NewGamePlus playthrough with no continues and then get your save file deleted by losing to Infini the Wise. When you start a new playthrough, there should be a strange portal near Bob's bed where you fight the Broken Anomaly.

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** To unlock the Broken Anomaly, [[ViolationOfCommonSense you have to lose 255 times to every regular fighter in the game]], do a NewGamePlus playthrough without saving once, do another NewGamePlus playthrough with no continues and then get your save file deleted by losing to Infini the Wise. When you start a new playthrough, there should be a strange portal near Bob's Sir Robert's bed where you fight the Broken Anomaly.



** As if to spite all of the other {{Superboss}}es, [[RivalFinalBoss Claidheamh]] can take them all on (before you ask, ''[[WolfpackBoss yes, all at once]]'') and become even stronger than all of them in his separate [[AnotherSideAnotherStory adventures in each of the Tales of Troperia games]]. Upon completing this challenge, Sir Robert can challenge Claidheamh to a true fight, [[DuelBoss one-on-one]].



* '''Justified:''' Bob is a BloodKnight and is deliberately seeking strong opponents to sate his desire for combat now that Emperor Evulz is dead.
** Emperor Evulz was so mad that he decided to train up and took refuge in an abandoned tower to recover. Upon finding the fallen emperor, Bob decides to kill him for good this time.
** [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks ????]] can be encountered at the Ruins of Messiah and is revealed to be a VillainOfAnotherStory. Bob decides that they has to be stopped before they can do any real damage.
** Through the power of a StableTimeLoop, Bob can fight an alternate version of himself who can use the strongest powers in the game due to doing multiple NewGamePlus runs. Future Bob wants to kill Bob to prevent him from abusing NewGamePlus and awakening powerful opponents who want to kill him for merely existing.
** Bob is so powerful that the Planetary Guardians are now trying to kill him due to their feelings that he's now a potential threat to the planet.

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* '''Justified:''' Bob Sir Robert is a BloodKnight and is deliberately seeking strong opponents to sate his desire for combat now that Emperor Evulz is dead.
** Emperor Evulz was so mad that he decided to train up and took refuge in an abandoned tower to recover. Upon finding the fallen emperor, Bob Sir Robert decides to kill him for good this time.
** [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks ????]] can be encountered at the Ruins of Messiah and is revealed to be a VillainOfAnotherStory. Bob Sir Robert decides that they has to be stopped before they can do any real damage.
** Through the power of a StableTimeLoop, Bob Sir Robert can fight an alternate version of himself who can use the strongest powers in the game due to doing multiple NewGamePlus runs. Future Bob Sir Robert wants to kill Bob Sir Robert to prevent him from abusing NewGamePlus and awakening powerful opponents who want to kill him for merely existing.
** Bob Sir Robert is so powerful that the Planetary Guardians are now trying to kill him due to their feelings that he's now a potential threat to the planet.



* '''Parodied''': Bob returns to the SuckECheeses only to find Carl the Chicken Man, who [[MegatonPunch slaps Bob once]], causing him to become ATwinkleInTheSky.

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* '''Parodied''': Bob '''Parodied''':
** Sir Robert
returns to the SuckECheeses only to find Carl the Chicken Man, who [[MegatonPunch slaps Bob Sir Robert once]], causing him to become ATwinkleInTheSky.ATwinkleInTheSky.
** Claidheamh simply remarks that whoever Sir Robert fought, Claidheamh had surely beaten a billion times over.



** After beating Emperor Evulz, TheMentor visits Bob 2 weeks later and tells them that he needs to visit an old friend for additional training. That old friend is Grandmaster Gary, who is far stronger than Emperor Evulz and whose sheer power must be overcome if Bob wants to stand a chance against the TrueFinalBoss.
** The developers decided to add fights with Jupiter, Infini the Wise, Broken Anomaly, Future Bob and ???? to the SNKBoss list because they were remaking ''Tales of Troperia'' as ''Tales of Troperia: Ultra Competition DX'' and felt that some new content would add some life to the game and reward veteran fans with something new.

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** After beating Emperor Evulz, TheMentor visits Bob Sir Robert 2 weeks later and tells them that he needs to visit an old friend for additional training. That old friend is Grandmaster Gary, who is far stronger than Emperor Evulz and whose sheer power must be overcome if Bob Sir Robert wants to stand a chance against the TrueFinalBoss.
** The developers decided to add fights with Jupiter, Infini the Wise, Broken Anomaly, Future Bob and Sir Robert, ???? and Claidheamh to the SNKBoss list because they were remaking ''Tales of Troperia'' as ''Tales of Troperia: Ultra Competition DX'' and felt that some new content would add some life to the game and reward veteran fans with something new.



* '''Invoked:''' Upon being killed, Emperor Evulz transports the last of his power into a powerful monster near Bob's ruined hometown out of spite. His dying words have him claim that this monster shall destroy everything Bob loves unless he can find it.
* '''Exploited:''' While Bob and the party are busy searching for strong opponents to fight and treasure to seek, Emperor Evulz has resurrected from the dead just in time for ''Tales of Troperia II'' which begins with Evulzs stealing Bob's post-game powers to empower himself.
* '''Defied''': "Hell no, I'm done with this game. I'm not spending 100 more hours of my time trying to kill every powerful enemy who looks at me funny."

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* '''Invoked:''' Upon being killed, Emperor Evulz transports the last of his power into a powerful monster near Bob's Sir Robert's ruined hometown out of spite. His dying words have him claim that this monster shall destroy everything Bob Sir Robert loves unless he can find it.
* '''Exploited:''' While Bob Sir Robert and the party are busy searching for strong opponents to fight and treasure to seek, Emperor Evulz has resurrected from the dead just in time for ''Tales of Troperia II'' which begins with Evulzs stealing Bob's Sir Robert's post-game powers to empower himself.
* '''Defied''': "Hell no, I'm done with this game. adventure. I'm not spending 100 more hours months of my time life trying to kill every powerful enemy who looks at me funny."



-->'''Bob''': "Wait a minute, if you're even stronger than Emperor Evulz, then why aren't you trying to take over the world?"\\

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-->'''Bob''': -->'''Sir Robert''': "Wait a minute, if you're even stronger than Emperor Evulz, then why aren't you trying to take over the world?"\\



'''Bob''': "Damn. I guess I'll have to put a stop to you too, before you can do any real damage to the world."

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'''Bob''': '''Sir Robert''': "Damn. I guess I'll have to put a stop to you too, before you can do any real damage to the world."



* '''Deconstructed:''' Blackhole is one of the strongest bosses in ''Tales of Troperia'' and very few are strong enough to reach him. Years of having only hostile monsters for company and visitors who only want to fight him for his weapon has caused him to lose all faith in humanity, transforming him into a merciless foe who holds nothing back.

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* '''Deconstructed:''' '''Deconstructed:'''
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Blackhole is one of the strongest bosses in ''Tales of Troperia'' and very few are strong enough to reach him. Years of having only hostile monsters for company and visitors who only want to fight him for his weapon has caused him to lose all faith in humanity, transforming him into a merciless foe who holds nothing back.



* '''Reconstructed:''' Rather than kill Blackhole, Bob spares his life and takes the sword as his prize. If you return to him again and defeat him with no losses, he'll show up and beat Emperor Evulz to a pulp as part of the game's secret ending.

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* '''Reconstructed:''' '''Reconstructed:'''
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Rather than kill Blackhole, Bob Sir Robert spares his life and takes the sword as his prize. If you return to him again and defeat him with no losses, he'll show up and beat Emperor Evulz to a pulp as part of the game's secret ending.ending.
** Sir Robert simply spares Jupiter's life and takes the army as his prize. If you return to him again and defeat him with no losses, he'll join Blackhole in beating down Emperor Evulz.

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** The developers had some extra time and decided to create the entire Caverns of Ragnarok dungeon and it's boss as a fun extra before the game was released.

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** The developers had some extra time and decided to create the entire Caverns of Ragnarok dungeon and it's its boss as a fun extra before the game was released.



'''Bob''': "Wait a minute, if you're even stronger than Emperor Evulz, then why aren't you trying to take over the world?"
** '''????''': "Oh contrare, my naive hero. That's the exact reason I came to these old ruins. To kickstart my own plans. And I have you to thank for getting rid of that idiot Evulz ''for me''."
** '''Bob''': "Damn. I guess I'll have to put a stop to you too, before you can do any real damage to the world."

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'''Bob''': -->'''Bob''': "Wait a minute, if you're even stronger than Emperor Evulz, then why aren't you trying to take over the world?"
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'''????''': "Oh contrare, my naive hero. That's the exact reason I came to these old ruins. To kickstart my own plans. And I have you to thank for getting rid of that idiot Evulz ''for me''."
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'''Bob''': "Damn. I guess I'll have to put a stop to you too, before you can do any real damage to the world."



'''Bob''': "Remember when ''Tales of Troperia'' was all the rage and there was this cave with this guy called Blackhole?"
** '''Alice''': "Black what? I couldn't even get past the first floor without my party being beaten to death by these stupid purple mages and their death spells."
** '''Bob''': Oh? The Reaper Mages are a real pain. Then again, I suppose it's nothing that hours worth of level grinding can't fix, eh Alice?

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'''Bob''': -->'''Bob''': "Remember when ''Tales of Troperia'' was all the rage and there was this cave with this guy called Blackhole?"
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Blackhole?"\\
'''Alice''': "Black what? I couldn't even get past the first floor without my party being beaten to death by these stupid purple mages and their death spells."
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'''Bob''': Oh? The Reaper Mages are a real pain. Then again, I suppose it's nothing that hours worth of level grinding can't fix, eh Alice?



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** To unlock the Broken Anomaly, you have to die 255 times to every regular monster in the game, do a NewGamePlus playthrough without saving once, do another NewGamePlus playthrough with no equipment and then get your save file deleted by losing to Infini the Wise. When you start a new save file, there should be a strange portal near Bob's bed where you fight the Broken Anomaly.
** In order to find the ????, you have to beat every other superboss in ''Tales of Troperia'', then get OneHundredPercentCompletion by filling out the entirety of the bestiary, having no losses, getting every ending and seeing every dialogue choice. After all that, you must return to the Ruins of Messiah to encounter the SNKBoss ????, which will wipe you out every single move anyway.

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** To unlock the Broken Anomaly, [[ViolationOfCommonSense you have to die lose 255 times to every regular monster fighter in the game, game]], do a NewGamePlus playthrough without saving once, do another NewGamePlus playthrough with no equipment continues and then get your save file deleted by losing to Infini the Wise. When you start a new save file, playthrough, there should be a strange portal near Bob's bed where you fight the Broken Anomaly.
** In order to find the ????, you have to beat every other superboss in ''Tales of Troperia'', then get OneHundredPercentCompletion by filling beating out the entirety every of the bestiary, fighters, having no losses, getting every ending and seeing every dialogue choice. After all that, you must return to the Ruins of Messiah to encounter the SNKBoss ????, which will wipe you out with every single move anyway.



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%%* '''DoubleSubverted''':* '''DoubleSubverted''': The CutsceneBoss turns out to be an SNKBoss, which invites you to an extra fight anyway.



* '''Enforced:''' After beating Emperor Evulz, TheMentor visits Bob 2 weeks later and tells them that he needs to visit an old friend for additional training. That old friend is Grandmaster Gary, who is far stronger than Emperor Evulz and whose sheer power must be overcome if Bob wants to stand a chance against the TrueFinalBoss.

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After beating Emperor Evulz, TheMentor visits Bob 2 weeks later and tells them that he needs to visit an old friend for additional training. That old friend is Grandmaster Gary, who is far stronger than Emperor Evulz and whose sheer power must be overcome if Bob wants to stand a chance against the TrueFinalBoss.
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** '''Alice''': "Ragna what? I couldn't even get past the first floor without my party being beaten to death by these stupid purple mages and their death spells."

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** '''Alice''': "Ragna "Black what? I couldn't even get past the first floor without my party being beaten to death by these stupid purple mages and their death spells."



* '''Reconstructed:''' Rather than kill Blackhole, Bob spares his life and takes the sword as his prize. If you return to him again and defeat him in under 15 turns, he'll show up and beat Emperor Evulz to a pulp as part of the game's secret ending.

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* '''Reconstructed:''' Rather than kill Blackhole, Bob spares his life and takes the sword as his prize. If you return to him again and defeat him in under 15 turns, with no losses, he'll show up and beat Emperor Evulz to a pulp as part of the game's secret ending.
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** The developers decided to add fights with Jupiter, Infini the Wise, Broken Anomaly, Future Bob and ???? in addition to a MultiMookMelee mode because they were remaking ''Tales of Troperia'' as ''Tales of Troperia: Final Mix DX'' and felt that some new content would add some life to the game and reward veteran fans with something new.

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** The developers decided to add fights with Jupiter, Infini the Wise, Broken Anomaly, Future Bob and ???? in addition to a MultiMookMelee mode the SNKBoss list because they were remaking ''Tales of Troperia'' as ''Tales of Troperia: Final Mix Ultra Competition DX'' and felt that some new content would add some life to the game and reward veteran fans with something new.



'''Bob''': "Remember when ''Tales of Troperia'' was all the rage and there was this cave with this guy called Ragnaroy?"

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'''Bob''': "Remember when ''Tales of Troperia'' was all the rage and there was this cave with this guy called Ragnaroy?" Blackhole?"



* '''Deconstructed:''' Ragnaroy is one of the strongest bosses in ''Tales of Troperia'' and very few are strong enough to reach him. Years of having only hostile monsters for company and visitors who only want to fight him for his weapon has caused him to lose all faith in humanity, transforming him into a merciless foe who holds nothing back.

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* '''Deconstructed:''' Ragnaroy Blackhole is one of the strongest bosses in ''Tales of Troperia'' and very few are strong enough to reach him. Years of having only hostile monsters for company and visitors who only want to fight him for his weapon has caused him to lose all faith in humanity, transforming him into a merciless foe who holds nothing back.



* '''Reconstructed:''' Rather than kill Ragnaroy, Bob spares his life and takes the sword as his prize. If you return to him again and defeat him in under 15 turns, he'll show up and beat Emperor Evulz to a pulp as part of the game's secret ending.

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* '''Reconstructed:''' Rather than kill Ragnaroy, Blackhole, Bob spares his life and takes the sword as his prize. If you return to him again and defeat him in under 15 turns, he'll show up and beat Emperor Evulz to a pulp as part of the game's secret ending.
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* '''Straight''': After defeating Emperor Evulz at the end of ''Tales of Troperia'', you unlock the [[BonusDungeon Caverns of Ragnarok]] which contain a powerful Superboss called Ragnaroy. Bob will need to be much, ''much'' stronger if he wants to obtain the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Ragnarok Sword]] from Ragnaroy's dead body.
* '''Exaggerated''': You have to get the GoldenEnding in ''Tales of Troperia'', then do the entire game on NewGamePlus on a HarderThanHard playthrough to even get a shot of fighting Infini the Wise. Fail and he deletes your entire save file.

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* '''Straight''': After defeating Emperor Evulz at the end of ''Tales of Troperia'', you unlock the [[BonusDungeon Caverns of Ragnarok]] which contain a powerful Superboss called Ragnaroy. Blackhole. Bob will need to be much, ''much'' stronger to defeat Blackhole if he wants to obtain the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Ragnarok Sword]] from Ragnaroy's dead body.
Sword]].
* '''Exaggerated''': You have to get the GoldenEnding in ''Tales of Troperia'', then do the entire game on NewGamePlus on a HarderThanHard playthrough to even get a shot of fighting the SNKBoss Infini the Wise. Fail and he deletes your entire save file.



** In order to find ????, you have to beat every other superboss in ''Tales of Troperia'', then get OneHundredPercentCompletion by filling out the entirety of the bestiary, getting all equipment, getting every ending and seeing every dialogue choice. After all that, you must return to the Ruins of Messiah to encounter ????.

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** In order to find the ????, you have to beat every other superboss in ''Tales of Troperia'', then get OneHundredPercentCompletion by filling out the entirety of the bestiary, getting all equipment, having no losses, getting every ending and seeing every dialogue choice. After all that, you must return to the Ruins of Messiah to encounter ????.the SNKBoss ????, which will wipe you out every single move anyway.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob returns to the SuckECheeses only to find Carl the Chicken Man, who [[ArmourPiercingSlap slaps Bob once]], causing him to become ATwinkleInTheSky.

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* '''Parodied''': Bob returns to the SuckECheeses only to find Carl the Chicken Man, who [[ArmourPiercingSlap [[MegatonPunch slaps Bob once]], causing him to become ATwinkleInTheSky.
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Basic Trope: After defeating the final boss, you can unlock a new boss who is far stronger than anyone in the game.

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Basic Trope: '''Basic Trope''': After defeating the final boss, you can unlock a new boss who is far stronger than anyone in the game.

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** To unlock

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** To unlock the Broken Anomaly, you have to die 255 times to every regular monster in the game, do a NewGamePlus playthrough without saving once, do another NewGamePlus playthrough with no equipment and then get your save file deleted by losing to Infini the Wise. When you start a new save file, there should be a strange portal near Bob's bed where you fight the Broken Anomaly.



** Through the power of a StableTimeLoop, Bob can fight an alternate version of himself who can use the strongest powers in the game due to doing multiple NewGamePlus runs.

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** Through the power of a StableTimeLoop, Bob can fight an alternate version of himself who can use the strongest powers in the game due to doing multiple NewGamePlus runs. Future Bob wants to kill Bob to prevent him from abusing NewGamePlus and awakening powerful opponents who want to kill him for merely existing.



* '''DoubleSubverted''':

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* %%* '''DoubleSubverted''':



** The developers decided to add fights with Jupiter, Infini the Wise, Future Bob and ???? in addition to a MultiMookMelee mode because they were remaking ''Tales of Troperia'' as ''Tales of Troperia: Final Mix DX'' and felt that some new content would add some life to the game and reward veteran fans with something new.

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** The developers decided to add fights with Jupiter, Infini the Wise, Broken Anomaly, Future Bob and ???? in addition to a MultiMookMelee mode because they were remaking ''Tales of Troperia'' as ''Tales of Troperia: Final Mix DX'' and felt that some new content would add some life to the game and reward veteran fans with something new.



* '''Defied''':
* '''Discussed''': '''Bob''': "Wait a minute, if you're even stronger than Emperor Evulz, then why aren't you trying to take over the world?"

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* '''Defied''':
'''Defied''': "Hell no, I'm done with this game. I'm not spending 100 more hours of my time trying to kill every powerful enemy who looks at me funny."
* '''Discussed''': '''Discussed''':
'''Bob''': "Wait a minute, if you're even stronger than Emperor Evulz, then why aren't you trying to take over the world?"



* '''Conversed''': '''Bob''': "Remember when ''Tales of Troperia'' was all the rage and there was this cave with this guy called Ragnaroy?"

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* '''Conversed''': '''Conversed''':
'''Bob''': "Remember when ''Tales of Troperia'' was all the rage and there was this cave with this guy called Ragnaroy?"

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** Jupiter is found at the end of a BonusDungeon where you have to fight [[UpgradedBoss stronger versions]] of every boss (sans Emperor Evulz) across a 99 floor dungeon without save points.
* '''Downplayed:'''
* '''Justified'''
* '''Inverted:'''You are the game's superboss as part of a MultiMookMelee mode consisting of every character in the game trying to kill you and steal your equipment.

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** Jupiter is found at the end of a BonusDungeon Planetarium Tesseract where you have to fight [[UpgradedBoss stronger versions]] of every boss (sans Emperor Evulz) across a 99 floor dungeon without save points.
** To unlock
** In order to find ????, you have to beat every other superboss in ''Tales of Troperia'', then get OneHundredPercentCompletion by filling out the entirety of the bestiary, getting all equipment, getting every ending and seeing every dialogue choice. After all that, you must return to the Ruins of Messiah to encounter ????.
* '''Downplayed:'''
'''Downplayed:''' Tales of Troperia has several OptionalBoss fights but none of them are stronger than Emperor Evulz.
** Emperor Evulz is simply made stronger for every NewGamePlus run that you do but that's about it.
** You can unlock a set of OptionalBoss fights who are reskinned version of Emperor Evulz who are only slightly stronger than the vanilla final boss fight.
* '''Justified'''
'''Justified:''' Bob is a BloodKnight and is deliberately seeking strong opponents to sate his desire for combat now that Emperor Evulz is dead.
** Emperor Evulz was so mad that he decided to train up and took refuge in an abandoned tower to recover. Upon finding the fallen emperor, Bob decides to kill him for good this time.
** [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks ????]] can be encountered at the Ruins of Messiah and is revealed to be a VillainOfAnotherStory. Bob decides that they has to be stopped before they can do any real damage.
** Through the power of a StableTimeLoop, Bob can fight an alternate version of himself who can use the strongest powers in the game due to doing multiple NewGamePlus runs.
** Bob is so powerful that the Planetary Guardians are now trying to kill him due to their feelings that he's now a potential threat to the planet.
** The developers had some extra time and decided to create the entire Caverns of Ragnarok dungeon and it's boss as a fun extra before the game was released.
** The developers decided to add a new bonus dungeon as part of a content update which included some bug fixes and rebalancing.
** The developers wanted to reward players for completing the game or for completing optional sidequests.
* '''Inverted:'''You '''Inverted:''' ''You'' are the game's superboss as part of a MultiMookMelee mode consisting of every character in the game trying to kill you and steal your equipment.



* '''Subverted''':

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* '''Subverted''':'''Subverted''': After a trek down the Pit of Eternal Suffering, you make it the Messiah of Masochism. As it turns out, he's nothing more than a CutsceneBoss.



* '''Parodied''':

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* '''Parodied''':'''Parodied''': Bob returns to the SuckECheeses only to find Carl the Chicken Man, who [[ArmourPiercingSlap slaps Bob once]], causing him to become ATwinkleInTheSky.



%%*'''Enforced:'''

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%%*'''Enforced:'''*'''Enforced:''' After beating Emperor Evulz, TheMentor visits Bob 2 weeks later and tells them that he needs to visit an old friend for additional training. That old friend is Grandmaster Gary, who is far stronger than Emperor Evulz and whose sheer power must be overcome if Bob wants to stand a chance against the TrueFinalBoss.
** The developers decided to add fights with Jupiter, Infini the Wise, Future Bob and ???? in addition to a MultiMookMelee mode because they were remaking ''Tales of Troperia'' as ''Tales of Troperia: Final Mix DX'' and felt that some new content would add some life to the game and reward veteran fans with something new.



%%*'''Invoked:'''

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%%*'''Invoked:'''*'''Invoked:''' Upon being killed, Emperor Evulz transports the last of his power into a powerful monster near Bob's ruined hometown out of spite. His dying words have him claim that this monster shall destroy everything Bob loves unless he can find it.



%%*'''Discussed''':
%%*'''Conversed''':
* '''Deconstructed:'''
* '''Reconstructed:'''
* '''PlayedForLaughs:'''
* '''PlayedForDrama:'''

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%%*'''Discussed''':
%%*'''Conversed''':
*'''Discussed''': '''Bob''': "Wait a minute, if you're even stronger than Emperor Evulz, then why aren't you trying to take over the world?"
** '''????''': "Oh contrare, my naive hero. That's the exact reason I came to these old ruins. To kickstart my own plans. And I have you to thank for getting rid of that idiot Evulz ''for me''."
** '''Bob''': "Damn. I guess I'll have to put a stop to you too, before you can do any real damage to the world."
*'''Conversed''': '''Bob''': "Remember when ''Tales of Troperia'' was all the rage and there was this cave with this guy called Ragnaroy?"
** '''Alice''': "Ragna what? I couldn't even get past the first floor without my party being beaten to death by these stupid purple mages and their death spells."
** '''Bob''': Oh? The Reaper Mages are a real pain. Then again, I suppose it's nothing that hours worth of level grinding can't fix, eh Alice?
* '''Deconstructed:'''
'''Deconstructed:''' Ragnaroy is one of the strongest bosses in ''Tales of Troperia'' and very few are strong enough to reach him. Years of having only hostile monsters for company and visitors who only want to fight him for his weapon has caused him to lose all faith in humanity, transforming him into a merciless foe who holds nothing back.
** Aeons of being left in the Planetarium Tesseract have reduced Jupiter to insanity. By the time you actually get to him, his only reason to fight is to kill you and add you to his army.
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'''Reconstructed:''' Rather than kill Ragnaroy, Bob spares his life and takes the sword as his prize. If you return to him again and defeat him in under 15 turns, he'll show up and beat Emperor Evulz to a pulp as part of the game's secret ending.
%%*
'''PlayedForLaughs:'''
* %%* '''PlayedForDrama:'''
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Basic Trope: After defeating the final boss, you can unlock a new boss who is far stronger than anyone in the game.
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* '''Straight''': After defeating Emperor Evulz at the end of ''Tales of Troperia'', you unlock the [[BonusDungeon Caverns of Ragnarok]] which contain a powerful Superboss called Ragnaroy. Bob will need to be much, ''much'' stronger if he wants to obtain the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Ragnarok Sword]] from Ragnaroy's dead body.
* '''Exaggerated''': You have to get the GoldenEnding in ''Tales of Troperia'', then do the entire game on NewGamePlus on a HarderThanHard playthrough to even get a shot of fighting Infini the Wise. Fail and he deletes your entire save file.
** Jupiter is found at the end of a BonusDungeon where you have to fight [[UpgradedBoss stronger versions]] of every boss (sans Emperor Evulz) across a 99 floor dungeon without save points.
*'''Downplayed:'''
*'''Justified'''
*'''Inverted:'''You are the game's superboss as part of a MultiMookMelee mode consisting of every character in the game trying to kill you and steal your equipment.
** TrainingBoss
** WarmUpBoss
*'''Subverted''':
*'''DoubleSubverted''':
*'''Parodied''':
%%*'''Zigzagged''':
*'''Averted:''' Tales of Troperia has no superbosses and the game ends after beating Emperor Evulz.
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%%*'''Lampshaded:'''
%%*'''Invoked:'''
*'''Exploited:''' While Bob and the party are busy searching for strong opponents to fight and treasure to seek, Emperor Evulz has resurrected from the dead just in time for ''Tales of Troperia II'' which begins with Evulzs stealing Bob's post-game powers to empower himself.
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%%*'''Discussed''':
%%*'''Conversed''':
*'''Deconstructed:'''
*'''Reconstructed:'''
*'''PlayedForLaughs:'''
*'''PlayedForDrama:'''

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