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Crosswicking. Also, the subversions I deleted don't really count — It's old protagonist becomes new antagonist, not old hero becomes new villain.


* '''Straight''': Bob was [[TheHero the main character]] in ''Heroes of Troperia''. He returns as the BigBad in ''Heroes of Troperia II: [[OddlyNamedSequel2ElectricBoogaloo Shadow Spaghetti]]''.

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* '''Straight''': Bob was [[TheHero the main character]] in ''Heroes of Troperia''. ''JustForFun/TalesOfTroperia''. He returns as the BigBad in ''Heroes of ''Tales Of Troperia II: [[OddlyNamedSequel2ElectricBoogaloo Shadow Spaghetti]]''.



** Every single hero in the ''Heroes of Troperia'' series become the BigBad in the installment next to his or hers.
** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[TimeTravel travels in time]] to the past and [[StableTimeLoop becomes]] Emperor Evulz, the BigBad of the first game.

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** Every single hero in the ''Heroes of ''Tales Of Troperia'' series become the BigBad in the installment next to his or hers.
** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of ''Tales Of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[TimeTravel travels in time]] to the past and [[StableTimeLoop becomes]] Emperor Evulz, the BigBad of the first game.



** The ending in ''Heroes of Troperia'' where he took over TheEmpire of [[BigBad Evulz]] is canon, thus averting NoCanonForTheWicked.

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** The ending in ''Heroes ''Tales of Troperia'' where he took over TheEmpire of [[BigBad Evulz]] is canon, thus averting NoCanonForTheWicked.



** Heroes of Troperia is a FightingGame, so it's entirely Justified that you fight Bob, the winner of previous tournament.

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** Heroes ''Tales of the Troperia Tournament'' is a FightingGame, so it's entirely Justified that you fight Bob, the winner of previous tournament.



** Bob went through ''a lot'' in ''Heroes of Troperia'', to the point that he had done a FaceHeelTurn.

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** Bob went through ''a lot'' in ''Heroes ''Tales of Troperia'', to the point that he had done a FaceHeelTurn.



** [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]], the BigBad in ''Heroes of Troperia I'', [[PromotedToPlayable becomes]] [[HeelFaceTurn the protagonist]] in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.

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** [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]], the BigBad in ''Heroes ''Tales of Troperia I'', Troperia'', [[PromotedToPlayable becomes]] [[HeelFaceTurn the protagonist]] in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.



** The reveal outs Joe as being the VillainProtagonist, explaining why Bob opposes him.



** Bob and Joe are both extremists and [[EvilVersusEvil oppose each other]], with Joe having the relative moral high ground.



** ''Heroes of Troperia'' and ''Shadow Spaghetti'' are separated in a way that won't allow Bob to appear in the sequel, let alone fighting the current protagonist. Such way includes: long in-universe time skip, different world, or Shadow Spaghetti being a {{Prequel}}.

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** ''Heroes ''Tales of Troperia'' and ''Shadow Spaghetti'' are separated in a way that won't allow Bob to appear in the sequel, let alone fighting the current protagonist. Such way includes: long in-universe time skip, different world, or Shadow Spaghetti being a {{Prequel}}.



* '''Enforced''': Bob's political views in ''Heroes of Troperia'' received vocal criticism for MoralGuardians, forcing his inclusion as an enemy in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' to distance the creator from Bob.

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* '''Enforced''': Bob's political views in ''Heroes ''Tales of Troperia'' received vocal criticism for MoralGuardians, forcing his inclusion as an enemy in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' to distance the creator from Bob.



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** [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]], the BigBad in ''Heroes of Troperia I'', [[PromotedToPlayable becomes the protagonist]] in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.

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** [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]], the BigBad in ''Heroes of Troperia I'', [[PromotedToPlayable becomes becomes]] [[HeelFaceTurn the protagonist]] in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.
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** [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]], the BigBad in ''Heroes of Troperia I'', becomes the hero in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.

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** [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]], the BigBad in ''Heroes of Troperia I'', [[PromotedToPlayable becomes the hero protagonist]] in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.
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** Bob was always a VillainProtagonist from the start of the first game. ''Shadow Spaghetti'' is the aftermath of his success, and the actual heroes' attempt to stop him.
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** Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy by [[GreaterScopeVillain Emperor Evulz Sr.]].

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** Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy by [[GreaterScopeVillain Emperor Evulz Sr.]].Evulz]].


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** Alice, Bob's MoralityChain, died in between the games and he went mad trying to avenge her and/or bring her back to life.
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** Every single hero in Heroes of Troperia series become the BigBad in the installment next to his or hers.

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** Every single hero in Heroes the ''Heroes of Troperia Troperia'' series become the BigBad in the installment next to his or hers.
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** Bob opposes the new heroes but isn't an out-and-out villain, just [[WeAreStrugglingTogether someone with a different idea of how to combat their mutual enemy]].
** In the sequel, Bob is an optional superboss, unimportant to the main storyline.

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** Bob is a HeroAntagonist: he opposes the new heroes but isn't an out-and-out villain, just [[WeAreStrugglingTogether someone with a different idea of how to combat their mutual enemy]].
** In the sequel, Bob is an optional superboss, {{optional|Boss}} {{superboss}}, unimportant to the main storyline.



** You play an amoral VillainProtagonist in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.

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** You play an amoral Bob is a HeroAntagonist fighting against the VillainProtagonist in of ''Shadow Spaghetti''.
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* Bob went through ''a lot'' in ''Heroes of Troperia'', to the point that he had done a FaceHeelTurn.

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* ** Bob went through ''a lot'' in ''Heroes of Troperia'', to the point that he had done a FaceHeelTurn.

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** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[TimeTravel travels in time]] to the past and [[StableTimeLoop becomes]] the BigBad of the first game.

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** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[TimeTravel travels in time]] to the past and [[StableTimeLoop becomes]] Emperor Evulz, the BigBad of the first game.



** Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy by the GreaterScopeVillain.

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** Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy by the GreaterScopeVillain.[[GreaterScopeVillain Emperor Evulz Sr.]].



** The ending in ''Heroes of Troperia'' where he took over TheEmpire of Evulz is canon, thus averting NoCanonForTheWicked.

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** The ending in ''Heroes of Troperia'' where he took over TheEmpire of Evulz [[BigBad Evulz]] is canon, thus averting NoCanonForTheWicked.


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* Bob went through ''a lot'' in ''Heroes of Troperia'', to the point that he had done a FaceHeelTurn.
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** Bob has a very good reason ([[WellIntentionedExtremist misguided or not]]) for stopping you in the sequel.

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** Bob has a very good reason ([[WellIntentionedExtremist misguided misguided]] or [[HeroAntagonist not]]) for stopping you in the sequel.

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* '''Straight''': Bob was [[TheHero the main character]] in ''Heroes of Troperia''. [[BossBattle You get to fight him]] in ''Heroes of Troperia II: [[OddlyNamedSequel2ElectricBoogaloo Shadow Spaghetti]]''.

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* '''Straight''': Bob was [[TheHero the main character]] in ''Heroes of Troperia''. [[BossBattle You get to fight him]] He returns as the BigBad in ''Heroes of Troperia II: [[OddlyNamedSequel2ElectricBoogaloo Shadow Spaghetti]]''.



** Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'', and you fight him in the ({{True|FinalBoss}}) FinalBattle.



** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[TimeTravel travels in time]] to the past and becomes BigBad of the first game.

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** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[TimeTravel travels in time]] to the past and becomes [[StableTimeLoop becomes]] the BigBad of the first game.



** Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy, or maybe TheParagonAlwaysRebels.
** The ending in ''Heroes of Troperia'' where he took over [[TheEmpire Empire of Evulz]] is canon, thus averting NoCanonForTheWicked.

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** Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy, or maybe BrainwashedAndCrazy by the GreaterScopeVillain.
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TheParagonAlwaysRebels.
** The ending in ''Heroes of Troperia'' where he took over [[TheEmpire Empire TheEmpire of Evulz]] Evulz is canon, thus averting NoCanonForTheWicked.



** Heroes of Troperia is a FightingGame, it's entirely Justified that you fight Bob, the winner of previous tournament.

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** Heroes of Troperia is a FightingGame, so it's entirely Justified that you fight Bob, the winner of previous tournament.



* '''Inverted''': [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]], the BigBad in ''Heroes of Troperia I'' become the player character in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.
* '''Subverted''': It's an impersonator, and Bob himself is not doing anything that hampers you.
** Bob only [[HeroWithBadPublicity appears]] to be the [[VillainWithGoodPublicity villian]] or uses [[AntiHero unsavory means to win.]]
** The reveal outs Joe as being the VillainProtagonist explaining why Bob opposes him.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...save for outfitting the imposter to assassinate you, that is.
** Bob over time becomes a KnightTemplar despite his good intentions.
** Bob and Joe are both extremists and oppose each other, but Joe turns out to have the moral high ground.
* '''Parodied''': "JustForFun/{{Hello}}. [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Bob.]] [[YouKilledMyFather You took my]] [[BreakingTheFourthWall hero seat.]] PrepareToDie."

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** ExBigBad.
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[[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]], the BigBad in ''Heroes of Troperia I'' become I'', becomes the player character hero in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.
* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
**
It's an impersonator, and Bob himself is not doing anything that hampers you.
** Bob only [[HeroWithBadPublicity appears]] to be the [[VillainWithGoodPublicity villian]] or villain because he uses [[AntiHero unsavory means to win.]]
win]].
** The reveal outs Joe as being the VillainProtagonist VillainProtagonist, explaining why Bob opposes him.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...save for outfitting Subverted''':
** Bob outfitted
the imposter to assassinate you, that is.
you.
** Bob Bob, over time time, becomes a KnightTemplar KnightTemplar, despite his good intentions.
** Bob and Joe are both extremists and [[EvilVersusEvil oppose each other, but other]], with Joe turns out to have having the relative moral high ground.
* '''Parodied''': "JustForFun/{{Hello}}. [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Bob.]] Bob]]. [[YouKilledMyFather You took my]] took]] my [[BreakingTheFourthWall hero seat.]] seat]]. PrepareToDie."



** Bob appears as a NPC, but he does not hinder the gamer(unless they choose to bad path, if their is one) and might even help the player.

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** Bob appears as a an NPC, but he does not hinder the gamer(unless gamer (unless they choose to bad path, if their is one) and might even help the player.



* '''Played For Laughs''': "Hey, weren't you a good guy [[BreakingTheFourthWall in the previous game]]?!" "Yes, but this Ultra Gore [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity Plus One]] [[ChainsawGood Chainsaw-Sword]] of Death 3000 is too awesome for little kids like you to use!" "[[HypocriticalHumor Weren't you a little kid too back then?!]]"

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* '''Played For Laughs''': "Hey, weren't you a good guy [[BreakingTheFourthWall in the previous game]]?!" "Yes, but this Ultra Gore [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity Plus One]] Super Cool [[ChainsawGood Chainsaw-Sword]] of Death 3000 is too awesome for little kids like you to use!" "[[HypocriticalHumor Weren't you a little kid too back then?!]]"

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** Bob only [[HeroWithBadPublicity appears]] to be the [[VillainWithGoodPublicity villian]] or uses [[AntiHero unsavory means to win.]]
** The reveal outs Joe as being the VillainProtagonist explaining why Bob opposes him.



** Bob over time becomes a KnightTemplar despite his good intentions.
** Bob and Joe are both extremists and oppose each other, but Joe turns out to have the moral high ground.



* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Bob saved the kingdom and helps crown the new king, but the king turns out to be just as corrupt as the old ruling class. Bob opposes the despotic King... so that he can rule himself as emperor.

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** Otherwise, Bob has a very good reason ([[WellIntentionedExtremist misguided or not]]) for stopping you in the sequel.

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** Otherwise, Bob has a very good reason ([[WellIntentionedExtremist misguided or not]]) for stopping you in the sequel.sequel.
** Bob lost his role as TheChosenOne, meaning [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall player character]], and takes it out on the next chosen one.
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The enforced example had nothing to do with external forces mandating a trope appears.


* '''Enforced''': Giving the player the thrill of being a {{Badass}} who can defeat previous savior of the world.

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* '''Enforced''': Giving Bob's political views in ''Heroes of Troperia'' received vocal criticism for MoralGuardians, forcing his inclusion as an enemy in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' to distance the player the thrill of being a {{Badass}} who can defeat previous savior of the world.creator from Bob.
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inappropriate use of Greater Scope Villain


** Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[GreaterScopeVillain worse]]''), and you fight him in the ({{True|FinalBoss}}) FinalBattle.

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** Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[GreaterScopeVillain worse]]''), Spaghetti'', and you fight him in the ({{True|FinalBoss}}) FinalBattle.
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* '''Subverted''': It's an Bob's impersonator, and Bob himself is not doing anything that hampers you.

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* '''Subverted''': It's an Bob's impersonator, and Bob himself is not doing anything that hampers you.

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** Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[BiggerBad worse]]''), and you fight him in the ({{True|FinalBoss}}) FinalBattle.

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** Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[BiggerBad ''[[GreaterScopeVillain worse]]''), and you fight him in the ({{True|FinalBoss}}) FinalBattle.
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* '''Straight''': Bob was [[TheHero the main character]] in ''Heroes of Troperia''. [[BossBattle You get to fight him]] in ''Heroes of Troperia II: [[ElectricBoogaloo Shadow Spaghetti]]''.

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* '''Straight''': Bob was [[TheHero the main character]] in ''Heroes of Troperia''. [[BossBattle You get to fight him]] in ''Heroes of Troperia II: [[ElectricBoogaloo [[OddlyNamedSequel2ElectricBoogaloo Shadow Spaghetti]]''.



** Bob opposes the new heroes but isn't an out-and-out villain, just [[WeAreStrugglingTogether someone with a different idea of how to combat their mutual enemy.]]

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** Bob opposes the new heroes but isn't an out-and-out villain, just [[WeAreStrugglingTogether someone with a different idea of how to combat their mutual enemy.]]enemy]].



* '''Parodied''': "JustForFun/{{Hello}}. [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Bob]]. [[YouKilledMyFather You took my]] [[BreakingTheFourthWall hero seat]]. [[PrepareToDie Prepare to die]]."

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* '''Parodied''': "JustForFun/{{Hello}}. [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Bob]]. Bob.]] [[YouKilledMyFather You took my]] [[BreakingTheFourthWall hero seat]]. [[PrepareToDie Prepare to die]].seat.]] PrepareToDie."



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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': '''Intended Audience Reaction''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': Bob opposes the new heroes but isn't an out-and-out villain, just [[WeAreStrugglingTogether someone with a different idea of how to combat their mutual enemy.]]

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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
**
Bob opposes the new heroes but isn't an out-and-out villain, just [[WeAreStrugglingTogether someone with a different idea of how to combat their mutual enemy.]]]]
** In the sequel, Bob is an optional superboss, unimportant to the main storyline.



* '''Subverted''': It's an imposter of Bob, and Bob himself is not doing anything that hampers you.
** In the sequel, Bob is an optional superboss, unimportant to the main storyline.

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* '''Subverted''': It's an imposter of Bob, Bob's impersonator, and Bob himself is not doing anything that hampers you.
** In the sequel, Bob is an optional superboss, unimportant to the main storyline.
you.
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** In the sequel, Bob is an optional superboss, unimportant to the main storyline.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???Bob opposes the new heroes but isn't an out-and-out villain, just [[WeAreStrugglingTogether someone with a different idea of how to combat their mutual enemy.]]

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[BiggerBad worse]]''), and you fight him in the ([[TrueFinalBoss True]]) FinalBattle.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
**
Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[BiggerBad worse]]''), and you fight him in the ([[TrueFinalBoss True]]) ({{True|FinalBoss}}) FinalBattle.



*** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[TimeTravel travels in time]] to the past and becomes BigBad of the first game.
* '''Justified''': Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy, or maybe TheParagonAlwaysRebels.

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*** ** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[TimeTravel travels in time]] to the past and becomes BigBad of the first game.
* '''Justified''': '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''':
**
Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy, or maybe TheParagonAlwaysRebels.



* '''Averted''': ''Heroes of Troperia'' and ''Shadow Spaghetti'' are separated in a way that won't allow Bob to appear in the sequel, let alone fighting the current protagonist. Such way includes: long in-universe time skip, different world, or Shadow Spaghetti being a {{Prequel}}.

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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''Heroes of Troperia'' and ''Shadow Spaghetti'' are separated in a way that won't allow Bob to appear in the sequel, let alone fighting the current protagonist. Such way includes: long in-universe time skip, different world, or Shadow Spaghetti being a {{Prequel}}.



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** You play [[CompleteMonster an amoral]] VillainProtagonist in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.

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** You play [[CompleteMonster an amoral]] amoral VillainProtagonist in ''Shadow Spaghetti''.
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** All of Bob's deeds in the first game were simply a ruse to get into a comfortable position for his grander plan. The sequel shows what he does after achieving this goal.

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* '''Parodied''': "{{Hello}}. [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Bob]]. [[YouKilledMyFather You took my]] [[BreakingTheFourthWall hero seat]]. [[PrepareToDie Prepare to die]]."

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* '''Parodied''': "{{Hello}}."JustForFun/{{Hello}}. [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Bob]]. [[YouKilledMyFather You took my]] [[BreakingTheFourthWall hero seat]]. [[PrepareToDie Prepare to die]]."
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*** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[travels in time TimeTravel]] to the past to become BigBad of the first game.

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*** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[travels [[TimeTravel travels in time TimeTravel]] time]] to the past to become and becomes BigBad of the first game.
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*** In the epilogue of ''Heroes of Troperia: The Ultimate Final'' main hero Ted [[travels in time TimeTravel]] to the past to become BigBad of the first game.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[BiggerBad worse]]''), and you fight him in the ([[TrueFinalBattle True]]) FinalBattle.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[BiggerBad worse]]''), and you fight him in the ([[TrueFinalBattle ([[TrueFinalBoss True]]) FinalBattle.
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**Bob appears as a NPC, but he does not hinder the gamer(unless they choose to bad path, if their is one) and might even help the player.
**''Shadow Spaghetti'' still has Bob as the protagonist.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[BiggerBad worse]]''), and you fight him in the ([[TrueFinalBattle True) FinalBattle.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob is the BigBad in ''Shadow Spaghetti'' (or ''[[BiggerBad worse]]''), and you fight him in the ([[TrueFinalBattle True) True]]) FinalBattle.



* '''Justified''': Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy, or maybe TheParagonAlwaysRebel.
** The ending in Heroes of Troperia I where he took over Empire of Evulz is canon, thus averting NoCanonForTheWicked.

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* '''Justified''': Bob is BrainwashedAndCrazy, or maybe TheParagonAlwaysRebel.
TheParagonAlwaysRebels.
** The ending in Heroes ''Heroes of Troperia I Troperia'' where he took over [[TheEmpire Empire of Evulz Evulz]] is canon, thus averting NoCanonForTheWicked.



* '''Played For Laughs''': "Hey, weren't you a good guy [[BreakingTheFourthWall in the previous game]]?!" "Yes, but this Ultra Gore InfinityPlusOne [[ChainsawGood Chainsaw-Sword]] of Death 3000 is too awesome for little kids like you to use!" "[[HypocriticalHumor Weren't you a little kid too back then?!]]"

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* '''Played For Laughs''': "Hey, weren't you a good guy [[BreakingTheFourthWall in the previous game]]?!" "Yes, but this Ultra Gore InfinityPlusOne [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity Plus One]] [[ChainsawGood Chainsaw-Sword]] of Death 3000 is too awesome for little kids like you to use!" "[[HypocriticalHumor Weren't you a little kid too back then?!]]"

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