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** Sharon is [[QueerAsTropes lesbian, asexual, and/or transgender]], and [=can't/doesn't=] want to physically procreate. Shannon is either not aware of this, making Sharon feel pressured over living up to her mother's expectations but not wanting to abandon her identity; or is aware of it and hates it, trying to force her daughter to "overcome" her identity and settle down with a man to have babies with him as a woman.
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** Shannon already has picked out potential names for her future grandkids, has been stockpiling baby clothes for them, has set up a guest bedroom for sleeping over at Grandma's. Bonus points if she's hasn't even been a ''mother'' yet!
** Sharon is a multi-millionaire CEO who isn't really concerned about dating, marriage, or having children. Her sister Stacy is a stereotypical white trash hick who has about five times as many children as they can afford. Shannon considers Stacy a success and Sharon a failure.
** Sharon is a multi-millionaire CEO who isn't really concerned about dating, marriage, or having children. Her sister Stacy is a stereotypical white trash hick who has about five times as many children as they can afford. Shannon considers Stacy a success and Sharon a failure.
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** Shannon already has picked out potential names for her future grandkids, has been stockpiling baby clothes for them, has set up a guest bedroom for sleeping over at Grandma's. Bonus points if she's she hasn't even been a ''mother'' had ''kids'' yet!
** Sharon is a multi-millionaire CEO who isn't really concerned about dating, marriage, or having children. Her sister Stacy is a stereotypical white trash hick who hasabout five times as many children as they she can afford. Shannon considers Stacy a success and Sharon a failure.
** Sharon is a multi-millionaire CEO who isn't really concerned about dating, marriage, or having children. Her sister Stacy is a stereotypical white trash hick who has
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** Sharon is diagnosed with a dreaded SoapOperaDisease that will kill her if she ever gives birth to a child, even if she has a C-section. [[GallowsHumor Shannon's response is to immediately call a funeral home and make a reservation for nine months from now]]. "Now hurry up and get cracking, you have to cancel 24 hours in advance or they still charge you!"
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** Seamus is Sharon's OverprotectiveDad who is terrified at the thought of his daughter having sex and getting pregnant.
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* '''Downplayed''': Although Shannon respects Sharon's decision in not getting married and having kids, she isn't too happy with her.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Although Shannon respects Sharon's decision in not getting married and having kids, she isn't too happy with her.
** Although Shannon respects Sharon's decision in not getting married and having kids, she isn't too happy with her.
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** Shannon and Sharon have an inside joke where Shannon demands Sharon hurry up and have children of her own every time they meet.
** Shannon wants Sharon to have children, but is okay with waiting and does not mention it to her.
** Shannon wants Sharon to have children, but is okay with waiting and does not mention it to her.
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** Sharon is a multi-millionaire CEO who isn't really concerned about dating, marriage, or having children. Her sister Melanie is a stereotypical white trash hick who has about five times as many children as they can afford. Shannon considers Melanie a success and Sharon a failure.
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** Sharon is a multi-millionaire CEO who isn't really concerned about dating, marriage, or having children. Her sister Melanie Stacy is a stereotypical white trash hick who has about five times as many children as they can afford. Shannon considers Melanie Stacy a success and Sharon a failure.
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** Shannon gives Sharon grief because she very definitely ''doesn't'' want any grandchildren.
* '''Subverted''':
** Shannon tells Sharon she should focus on her career for now, not on trying to have kids as soon as possible.
** Shannon thinks Sharon should avoid having kids, because at this point she's not responsible enough to handle raising a child.
* '''Double Subverted''': However, this is soon revealed to be her attempting to use ReversePsychology on her daughter.
* '''Subverted''':
** Shannon tells Sharon she should focus on her career for now, not on trying to have kids as soon as possible.
** Shannon thinks Sharon should avoid having kids, because at this point she's not responsible enough to handle raising a child.
* '''Double Subverted''': However, this is soon revealed to be her attempting to use ReversePsychology on her daughter.
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** Shannon gives Sharon grief because she very definitely ''doesn't'' doesn't want any grandchildren.
*'''Subverted''':
** Shannon tells'''Subverted''': Sharon she should focus on mentions that a family member who wants her career for now, not on trying to have kids as soon as possible.
** Shannon thinks Sharon should avoid having kids, because at this point she's not responsible enoughkids. This turns out to handle raising a child.
be he brother Stanley, who is wanting to be an Uncle.
* '''Double Subverted''':However, this is soon revealed Stanley only tells that to be Sharon, because Shannon told her attempting to use ReversePsychology on her daughter.to.
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** Shannon tells
** Shannon thinks Sharon should avoid having kids, because at this point she's not responsible enough
* '''Double Subverted''':
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** Shannon has three children (Stanley, Sharon and Stacy), and none of them have a promising career. While she heavily pressures Sharon to hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' from the very same goals, and is completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the baby-making. In short, she is selective.
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** Shannon has three children (Stanley, Sharon and Stacy), and none of them have a promising career. While she heavily pressures Sharon to hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' Stacy from the very same goals, and is completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the baby-making. In short, she is selective.
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* '''Discussed''': "Look, Bob, I really don't want a baby." "Do your parents want grandchildren? We should try to make them happy." "No, my sister Melanie already took care of that."
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* '''Discussed''': "Look, Bob, I really don't want a baby." "Do your parents want grandchildren? We should try to make them happy." "No, my sister Melanie Stacy already took care of that."
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** [[TheHighQueen Queen Shannon]] is desperate for RebelliousPrincess Sharon to produce offspring to secure the future of the dynasty, otherwise there will be grave political consequences in years to come.
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** Shannon has two children. One is a multi-millionaire CEO who isn't really concerned about dating, marriage, or having children. The other is a stereotypical white trash hick who has about five times as many children as they can afford. Guess which one Shannon considers to be successful, and which one she considers a failure and a disappointment.
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** Shannon has two children. One Sharon is a multi-millionaire CEO who isn't really concerned about dating, marriage, or having children. The other Her sister Melanie is a stereotypical white trash hick who has about five times as many children as they can afford. Guess which one Shannon considers to be successful, Melanie a success and which one she considers Sharon a failure and a disappointment.failure.
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* '''Parodied''': Shannon has three children (Stanley, Sharon and Stacy), and none of them have a promising career. While she heavily pressures Sharon to hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' from the very same goals, and is completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the baby-making. In short, she is selective.
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Shannon has three children (Stanley, Sharon and Stacy), and none of them have a promising career. While she heavily pressures Sharon to hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' from the very same goals, and is completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the baby-making. In short, she isselective.selective.
** Shannon refers to [[NoFourthWall this trope]] when Sharon asks why she wants grandkids so much.
** Shannon has three children (Stanley, Sharon and Stacy), and none of them have a promising career. While she heavily pressures Sharon to hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' from the very same goals, and is completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the baby-making. In short, she is
** Shannon refers to [[NoFourthWall this trope]] when Sharon asks why she wants grandkids so much.
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** Shannon refers to [[NoFourthWall this trope]] when Sharon asks why she wants grandkids so much.
* '''Invoked''': Sharon vows not to have any children no matter what Shannon (or anyone else) thinks.
* '''Invoked''': Sharon vows not to have any children no matter what Shannon (or anyone else) thinks.
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** "Why do our parents ask for grandkids?" "I don't know. Maybe they're bored."
* '''Invoked''':
** Shannonrefers to [[NoFourthWall this trope]] when has picked up on the {{UST}} between Sharon asks why and Bob, and clumsily attempts to push them together by dropping less-than-subtle hints that she wants grandkids so much.
* '''Invoked''':thinks they'd make some cute kids together.
** Sharon vows not to have any children no matter what Shannon (or anyone else) thinks.
* '''Invoked''':
** Shannon
* '''Invoked''':
** Sharon vows not to have any children no matter what Shannon (or anyone else) thinks.
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* '''Discussed''': "Why do our parents ask for grandkids?" "I don't know. Maybe they're bored."
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* '''Discussed''': "Why do our parents ask for grandkids?" "I '''Discussed''': "Look, Bob, I really don't know. Maybe they're bored.want a baby." "Do your parents want grandchildren? We should try to make them happy." "No, my sister Melanie already took care of that."
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* '''Played For Laughs''':
** Shannon has picked up on the {{UST}} between Sharon and Bob, and clumsily attempts to push them together by dropping less-than-subtle hints that she thinks they'd make some cute kids together.
** Sharon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
** Shannon has picked up on the {{UST}} between Sharon and Bob, and clumsily attempts to push them together by dropping less-than-subtle hints that she thinks they'd make some cute kids together.
** Sharon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
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* '''Played For Laughs''':
** Shannon has picked up on the {{UST}} between Sharon and Bob, and clumsily attempts to push them together by dropping less-than-subtle hints that she thinks they'd make some cute kids together.
**Laughs''': Sharon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
** Shannon has picked up on the {{UST}} between Sharon and Bob, and clumsily attempts to push them together by dropping less-than-subtle hints that she thinks they'd make some cute kids together.
**
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* '''Downplayed''': Although Shannon respects Sharon's decision in not getting married and having kids, she subtly tells her that she will change her mind in the future.
* '''Justified''': Shannon has a terminal illness that will kill her in 5 years, and she wants to see her grandchildren before she passes away.
* '''Justified''': Shannon has a terminal illness that will kill her in 5 years, and she wants to see her grandchildren before she passes away.
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** The only thing Shannon ever says to her daughter is "''Gimme grandkids!''"
* '''Downplayed''': Although Shannon respects Sharon's decision in not getting married and having kids, shesubtly tells her that she will change her mind in the future.
isn't too happy with her.
*'''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Sharon has only moved away recently, and Shannonhas a terminal illness that will kill and Dale are {{empty nest}}ers. Sharon would rather focus on her in 5 years, and she career and[=/=]or her social life.
** Shannon grew up with loving parents who helped her to raise Sharon. She wants tosee her grandchildren follow their example before she passes away.gets too old.
* '''Downplayed''': Although Shannon respects Sharon's decision in not getting married and having kids, she
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** Sharon has only moved away recently, and Shannon
** Shannon grew up with loving parents who helped her to raise Sharon. She wants to
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** Young Sharon gives her mother grief because she very definitely ''doesn't'' want a baby brother or sister.
** Or Shannon gives Sharon grief for giving her grandchildren.
** Or Shannon gives Sharon grief for giving her grandchildren.
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** Young Shannon gives Sharon gives her mother grief because she very definitely ''doesn't'' want a baby brother or sister.
** Or Shannon gives Sharon grief for giving herany grandchildren.
** Or Shannon gives Sharon grief for giving her
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** Alternatively, Shannon thinks Sharon should avoid having kids, because at this point she's not responsible enough to handle raising a child.
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** Alternatively, Shannon thinks Sharon should avoid having kids, because at this point she's not responsible enough to handle raising a child.
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* '''Parodied''': The only thing Shannon ever says to her daughter is "''Gimme grandkids!''"
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* '''Parodied''': The only thing Shannon ever says has three children (Stanley, Sharon and Stacy), and none of them have a promising career. While she heavily pressures Sharon to her daughter hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' from the very same goals, and is "''Gimme grandkids!''"completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the baby-making. In short, she is selective.
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** Shannon has three children: Stanley, Sharon and Stacy. While she heavily pressures Sharon to hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' from the very same goals, and is completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the babymaking.
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* '''Averted''':
** Shannon stays out of Sharon's lovelife.
** Shannon never brings up the subject of grandkids with Sharon.
** Shannon stays out of Sharon's lovelife.
** Shannon never brings up the subject of grandkids with Sharon.
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* '''Averted''': Shannon
** Shannon never brings up the subject of grandkids with Sharon.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "My parents really want grandkids; they call me everyday asking about them."
* '''Invoked''': Shannon refers to this trope when Sharon asks why she wants grandkids so much.
* '''Invoked''': Shannon refers to this trope when Sharon asks why she wants grandkids so much.
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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
** "My parents really want grandkids; they call me everyday asking about them."
** "Mom, I've already told you I'm not going to have babies! If you're looking for something to do, why not take up a new hobby?"
** Shannon refers to [[NoFourthWall this trope]] when Sharon asks why she wants grandkids so much.
* '''Invoked''': Sharon vows not to have any children no matter what Shannonrefers to this trope when Sharon asks why she wants grandkids so much.(or anyone else) thinks.
** "My parents really want grandkids; they call me everyday asking about them."
** "Mom, I've already told you I'm not going to have babies! If you're looking for something to do, why not take up a new hobby?"
** Shannon refers to [[NoFourthWall this trope]] when Sharon asks why she wants grandkids so much.
* '''Invoked''': Sharon vows not to have any children no matter what Shannon
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** Alternately, Edward tries to lure her away by acting supportive and offering a sympathetic ear, gently manipulating her into despising her mother's meddling.
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** Alternately, Edward tries to lure her away by acting supportive and offering a sympathetic ear, gently manipulating her into despising her mother's meddling.
** Shannon stays out of Sharon's lovelife.
** Shannon never brings up the subject of grandkids with Sharon.
** Shannon never brings up the subject of grandkids with Sharon.
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* '''Discussed''': "Why do our parents ask for grandkids?" "They're bored."
* '''Conversed''': "Why should Sharon have children only to please her mother? It's Sharon's life after all."
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
** Sharon becomes so desperate to please her mother that she ends up in a bad relationship with DomesticAbuser Edward.
* '''Conversed''': "Why should Sharon have children only to please her mother? It's Sharon's life after all."
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
** Sharon becomes so desperate to please her mother that she ends up in a bad relationship with DomesticAbuser Edward.
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** Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's not-boyfriend]], eventually sits Sharon and Shannon down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
** Sharon adopts a child.
* '''Discussed''': "Why do our parents ask for grandkids?""They're "I don't know. Maybe they're bored."
* '''Conversed''': "Why should Sharon have children only to please her mother? It's Sharon'slife life, after all."
*'''Deconstructed''':
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
**'''Deconstructed''': Sharon becomes so desperate to please her mother that she ends up in a bad relationship with DomesticAbuser Edward.Edward.
* '''Reconstructed''': Sharon breaks up with Edward and starts dating Bob instead. Shannon is relieved that Bob is not abusive, though she still resents the fact that Sharon and Bob have no plans to start a family.
* '''Played For Laughs''':
** Shannon has picked up on the {{UST}} between Sharon and Bob, and clumsily attempts to push them together by dropping less-than-subtle hints that she thinks they'd make some cute kids together.
** Sharon adopts a child.
* '''Discussed''': "Why do our parents ask for grandkids?"
* '''Conversed''': "Why should Sharon have children only to please her mother? It's Sharon's
*
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
**
* '''Reconstructed''': Sharon breaks up with Edward and starts dating Bob instead. Shannon is relieved that Bob is not abusive, though she still resents the fact that Sharon and Bob have no plans to start a family.
* '''Played For Laughs''':
** Shannon has picked up on the {{UST}} between Sharon and Bob, and clumsily attempts to push them together by dropping less-than-subtle hints that she thinks they'd make some cute kids together.
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* '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's not-boyfriend]], eventually sits the two down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Shannon has picked up on the {{UST}} between Sharon and Bob, and clumsily attempts to push them together by dropping less-than-subtle hints that she thinks they'd make some cute kids together.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Shannon has picked up on the {{UST}} between Sharon and Bob, and clumsily attempts to push them together by dropping less-than-subtle hints that she thinks they'd make some cute kids together.
** Shannon has a terminal illness that will kill her in 5 years, and she wants to see her grandchildren before she passes away.
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
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* '''Gender Inverted''': Bob's father Al wants him to marry a woman and have kids as soon as possible.
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** Shannon already has picked out potential names for her future grandkids, has been stockpiling baby clothes for them, has set up a guest bedroom for sleeping over at Grandma's. Bonus points if she's hasn't been a mother yet!
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** Shannon already has picked out potential names for her future grandkids, has been stockpiling baby clothes for them, has set up a guest bedroom for sleeping over at Grandma's. Bonus points if she's hasn't even been a mother ''mother'' yet!
** Sharon's sister decides to marry and have children, just to get Shannon off Sharon's case.
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** Shannon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
* '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's not-boyfriend]] eventually sits the two down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
* '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's not-boyfriend]] eventually sits the two down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
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** Shannon Sharon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
* '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon'snot-boyfriend]] not-boyfriend]], eventually sits the two down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
* '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's
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** Shannon already has picked out potential names for her future grandkids, has been stockpiling baby clothes for them, has set up a guest bedroom for sleeping over at Grandma's...
*** ...Meanwhile, she's not even pregnant with her ''own'' children yet.
*** ...Meanwhile, she's not even pregnant with her ''own'' children yet.
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** Shannon already has picked out potential names for her future grandkids, has been stockpiling baby clothes for them, has set up a guest bedroom for sleeping over at Grandma's...
*** ...Meanwhile,Grandma's. Bonus points if she's not even pregnant with her ''own'' children yet.hasn't been a mother yet!
*** ...Meanwhile,
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*** ...Meanwhile, she's not even pregnant with her ''own'' children yet.
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** Sharon, an only child, begs her mother for a sibling.
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** Sharon, an only child, [[SiblingsWanted begs her mother for a sibling.sibling]].
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* '''Defied''': When Sharon and Bob marry, Sharon asks Shannon if she wants grandkids. The answer is no.
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** When Sharon and Bob marry, Sharon asks Shannon if she wants grandkids. The answer isno.no.
** Shannon lets Sharon make her own choice whether or not she becomes a parent and never bugs her about grandchildren.
** When Sharon and Bob marry, Sharon asks Shannon if she wants grandkids. The answer is
** Shannon lets Sharon make her own choice whether or not she becomes a parent and never bugs her about grandchildren.
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* '''Gender Inverted''': Al wants Bob to marry a woman and have kids as soon as possible.
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* '''Gender Inverted''': Bob's father Al wants Bob him to marry a woman and have kids as soon as possible.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???Although Shannon respects Sharon's decision in not getting married and having kids, she subtly tells her that she will change her mind in the future.
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Does it count as an exaggeration if I can easily believe it could really happen and probably has many times?
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** Shannon has two children. One is a multi-millionaire CEO who isn't really concerned about dating, marriage, or having children. The other is a stereotypical white trash hick who has about five times as many children as they can afford. Guess which one Shannon considers to be successful, and which one she considers a failure and a disappointment.
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* '''Discussed''': "Why do our parents ask for grandkids?"
* '''Conversed''': "They're bored"
* '''Conversed''': "They're bored"
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* '''Discussed''': "Why do our parents ask for grandkids?"
grandkids?" "They're bored."
* '''Conversed''':"They're bored""Why should Sharon have children only to please her mother? It's Sharon's life after all."
* '''Conversed''':
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** Sharon was raped; Shannon pressures her to keep the child, telling her GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion and even going so far as to claim this is her 'only chance' at motherhood, as nobody else would want her now that she's "[[DefiledForever damaged goods]]".
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** Sharon was raped; Shannon pressures her to keep the child, telling her GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion and even going so far as to claim this is her 'only chance' at motherhood, as nobody else would want her now that she's "[[DefiledForever damaged goods]]". However, the last thing Sharon wants is to keep the child because it will forever be a reminder of the horrible day she was raped...
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* '''Subverted''': Shannon tells Sharon she should focus on her career for now, not on trying to have kids as soon as possible.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Shannon tells Sharon she should focus on her career for now, not on trying to have kids as soon as possible.
** Shannon tells Sharon she should focus on her career for now, not on trying to have kids as soon as possible.
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* '''Deconstructed''':
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
** Sharon becomes so desperate to please her mother that she ends up in a bad relationship with DomesticAbuser Edward.
** Shannon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
* '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's not-boyfriend]] eventually sits the two down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
** Sharon becomes so desperate to please her mother that she ends up in a bad relationship with DomesticAbuser Edward.
** Shannon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
* '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's not-boyfriend]] eventually sits the two down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
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* '''Enforced''': The writer of the series wants grandkids and is dropping not-so-subtle hints to their child, the producer.
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* '''Enforced''': The writer of the series wants grandkids and is dropping not-so-subtle hints to their child, the producer.
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
** Sharon becomes so desperate to please her mother that she ends up in a bad relationship with DomesticAbuser Edward.
** Shannon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
* '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's not-boyfriend]] eventually sits the two down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
** Sharon becomes so desperate to please her mother that she ends up in a bad relationship with DomesticAbuser Edward.
** Shannon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
* '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's not-boyfriend]] eventually sits the two down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
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* '''Exaggerated''': From the moment her daughter was born, Shannon has raised her with one goal in mind: to get her married off and start pumping out the grandbabies!
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** From the moment her daughter was born, Shannon has raised her with one goal in mind: to get her married off and start pumping out the grandbabies!
** From the moment her daughter was born, Shannon has raised her with one goal in mind: to get her married off and start pumping out the grandbabies!
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* '''Inverted''': Sharon, an only child, begs her mother for a sibling.
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** Sharon, an only child, begs her mother for a sibling.
** Sharon, an only child, begs her mother for a sibling.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
** Shannon was raised to believe that women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Shannon has three children: Stanley, Sharon and Stacy. While she heavily pressures Sharon to hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' from the very same goals, and is completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the babymaking.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Zagged''':
** Shannon has three children: Stanley, Sharon and Stacy. While she heavily pressures Sharon to hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' from the very same goals, and is completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the babymaking.
** Shannon has three children: Stanley, Sharon and Stacy. While she heavily pressures Sharon to hurry up, get married and have kids, she discourages ''Stacy'' from the very same goals, and is completely indifferent to whether or not Stanley settles down and gets to the babymaking.
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* '''Averted''': Shannon stays out of Sharon's lovelife.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** Shannon stays out of Sharon's lovelife.
** Shannon stays out of Sharon's lovelife.
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* '''Exploited''': Sharon's abusive on-again, off-again boyfriend Edward tries to strongarm her into sex by reminding her of her mother's wishes.
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* '''Exploited''': '''Exploited''':
** Sharon's abusive on-again, off-again boyfriend Edward tries to strongarm her into sex by reminding her of her mother's wishes.
** Sharon's abusive on-again, off-again boyfriend Edward tries to strongarm her into sex by reminding her of her mother's wishes.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Shannon makes clear that Sharon is her [[TheUnfavorite unfavorite]], supporting Stacy's chosen career as an actress while proclaiming that the only worthwhile thing her ''other'' daughter could accomplish would be landing a good man and giving her grandkids.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Drama''':
** Shannon makes clear that Sharon is her [[TheUnfavorite unfavorite]], supporting Stacy's chosen career as an actress while proclaiming that the only worthwhile thing her ''other'' daughter could accomplish would be landing a good man and giving her grandkids.
** Shannon makes clear that Sharon is her [[TheUnfavorite unfavorite]], supporting Stacy's chosen career as an actress while proclaiming that the only worthwhile thing her ''other'' daughter could accomplish would be landing a good man and giving her grandkids.
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** Or Shannon gives Sharon grief for giving her grandchildren.
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** Shannon is lesbian, and her mother keeps asking her why she is not getting married and when will she have children. {{Gayngst}} ensues.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Shannon was raised to believe that FemaleSuccessIsFamily, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Shannon was raised to believe that FemaleSuccessIsFamily, women's worth lies in having children, and honestly believes/fears that she will have failed as a mother if her daughter doesn't continue the family line. The pressure she keeps putting on her daughter to procreate already only reaffirms Sharon's desire to remain childfree, driving a wedge between them.
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** Shannon never brings up the subject of grandkids with Sharon.
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* '''Discussed''': "Why do are parents ask for grandkids?"
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* '''Discussed''': "Why do are our parents ask for grandkids?"
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* '''Reconstructed''': Sharon becomes rude whenever Shannon brings up the subject.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Sharon becomes rude whenever '''Reconstructed''':Shannon grew up with adoring grandparents who helped her parents raise her and her siblings. She wants to provide that same support for her own daughter and her daughter's kids. Bob, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend Sharon's not-boyfriend]] eventually sits the two down so they can get over their problems. The end result is Shannon brings up the subject.stops pressuring Shannon about babies and starts shipping her with Bob.
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* '''Enforced''': ???
The writer of the series wants grandkids and is dropping not-so-subtle hints to their child, the producer.
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"My parents really want grandkids; they call me everyday asking about them."
* '''Invoked''':???Shannon refers to this trope when Sharon asks why she wants grandkids so much.
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* '''Defied''': ???
When Sharon and Bob marry, Sharon asks Shannon if she wants grandkids. The answer is no.
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"Why do are parents ask for grandkids?"
* '''Conversed''':???"They're bored"
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* '''Reconstructed''': ???Sharon becomes rude whenever Shannon brings up the subject.
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* '''Justified''': Shannon has a terminal illness that will kill her in 3 years, and she wants to see her grandchildren before she passes away.
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* '''Justified''': Shannon has a terminal illness that will kill her in 3 5 years, and she wants to see her grandchildren before she passes away.
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* '''Justified''': ???Shannon has a terminal illness that will kill her in 3 years, and she wants to see her grandchildren before she passes away.