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*** They use "Oh, really, your bullies deafened and blinded your five-year-old sister when they gave her a swirlie? [[NoSympathy Boo-hoo]], wah-wah, [[QuitYourWhining suck it up, you pussy]]" when Dracone has jumped far, ''far'' beyond the MoralEventHorizon. At that point, you might as well just mock them for being too far gone for any sort of constructive criticism to work.

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*** They use "Oh, really, your bullies deafened and blinded your five-year-old sister when they gave her a swirlie? [[NoSympathy Boo-hoo]], wah-wah, [[QuitYourWhining suck it up, you pussy]]" when Dracone has jumped far, ''far'' beyond the MoralEventHorizon.MoralEventHorizon, and in fact, does so with the [[ForTheLulz utmost]] [[ForTheEvulz glee]]. At that point, you might as well just mock them for being too far gone for any sort of constructive criticism to work.




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* '''Played For Laughs''': Dracone is shown to be an AxCrazy BloodKnight who commits crimes ForTheLulz and ForTheEvulz. When caught, he begins simpering and begging for his life to be spared, citing that his HilariouslyAbusiveChildhood was the reason why he's the way he is now. Cue AsideGlance from one of the heroes.



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** Dracone's excuse ''sounds'' good, in theory, but his ''[[DisproportionateRetribution response]]'' is not; yes, his family was killed and his town was incinerated, but, [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood instead of using his power to protect others from that same fate]], such as the heroes had, he repeatedly and unrelentingly [[RapePillageAndBurn razed and depopulated]] city after city, country after country, with little remorse for the thousands of innocents that have suffered a fate equal to- or ''worse''- than his own, [[RevengeBeforeReason in his]] [[RevengeIsNotJustice quest]] [[RevengeByProxy for 'justice']].

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** Dracone's excuse ''sounds'' good, in theory, but his ''[[DisproportionateRetribution response]]'' is not; yes, his family was killed and his town was incinerated, but, [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood instead of using his power to protect others from that same fate]], such as the heroes had, had (or [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge hunted down and killed the bastards who did the deed]] and then called it quits, as [[TheLancer more cynical members of the team]] point out), he repeatedly and unrelentingly [[RapePillageAndBurn razed and depopulated]] city after city, country after country, with little remorse for the thousands of innocents that have suffered a fate equal to- or ''worse''- than his own, [[RevengeBeforeReason in his]] [[RevengeIsNotJustice quest]] [[RevengeByProxy for 'justice']].
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** In a fashion, at least: Dracone's motive is one inch higher than "[[ForTheEvulz I woke up today and decided humanity wasn't dead enough]]". After facing off against both types of monsters, the heroes [[DisappointedByTheMotive cannot decide who is worse]].

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** In a fashion, at least: Dracone's motive is one inch higher in the heroes' sympathy scale than "[[ForTheEvulz I woke up today and decided humanity wasn't dead enough]]".enough]]". But that is it. After facing off against both types of monsters, the heroes [[DisappointedByTheMotive cannot decide who is worse]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': [[AntiVillain Dracone]] has ''[[TragicVillain very]]'' [[ForcedIntoEvil justifiable]] [[TrappedInVillainy reasons]] for what he does and is even at the cusp of a HeelFaceTurn [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone out of remorse]], but the [[DesignatedHero heroes]] show NoSympathy and execute him all the same.

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* '''Exaggerated''': [[AntiVillain Dracone]] has ''[[TragicVillain very]]'' [[ForcedIntoEvil justifiable]] [[TrappedInVillainy reasons]] for what he does and is even at the cusp of a HeelFaceTurn [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone out of remorse]], but the [[DesignatedHero heroes]] show NoSympathy and [[HeelFaceDoorSlam execute him all the same.same]].

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*** The same thing but with a variation of the MiseryPoker: Yes, Dracone has a DarkAndTroubledPast but the hero lived the same thing, or sometimes even worse. Dracone loses all his family? The hero is the sole survivor of a genocide and he didn't become a bad guy; he protects and helps people. For him, using this as an excuse is just really lame.

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*** The same thing but with a variation of the MiseryPoker: Yes, Dracone has a DarkAndTroubledPast but the hero lived the same thing, or sometimes even worse. Dracone loses all his family? The hero is the [[GenocideSurvivor sole survivor survivor]] of a genocide and he didn't become a bad guy; he protects and helps people. For him, using this as an excuse is just really lame.



** Dracone is still fully aware of the pain and hurt he causes to innocents and may even relish in it.

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** Dracone is still fully aware of the pain and hurt he causes to innocents and may even [[EvilFeelsGood relish in it.it]].
** Dracone's excuse ''sounds'' good, in theory, but his ''[[DisproportionateRetribution response]]'' is not; yes, his family was killed and his town was incinerated, but, [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood instead of using his power to protect others from that same fate]], such as the heroes had, he repeatedly and unrelentingly [[RapePillageAndBurn razed and depopulated]] city after city, country after country, with little remorse for the thousands of innocents that have suffered a fate equal to- or ''worse''- than his own, [[RevengeBeforeReason in his]] [[RevengeIsNotJustice quest]] [[RevengeByProxy for 'justice']].



** When defeated, the villain says that what he did cannot be excused by his terrible past. The heroes, having heard of his past, consoles him and tells him that what he went through is so horrific that it actually does excuse his actions.

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** When defeated, the [[VillainousBSOD villain says says]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone that what he did he]] [[MoralEventHorizon did]] [[IveComeTooFar cannot be excused excused]] [[TragicBackstory by his terrible past. past]]. The heroes, having heard of his past, consoles him and [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre tells him that what he went through is so horrific that it actually does excuse his actions.actions]].



** Dracone was [[TykeBomb raised from infancy]] to serve a [[EvilOverlord despot]], but he [[FreudianExcuseDenial doesn't accept]] that his upbringing taught him cruelty. He's convinced himself that becoming a tool of oppression was his idea.

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** Dracone was [[TykeBomb raised from infancy]] to serve a [[EvilOverlord despot]], but he [[FreudianExcuseDenial doesn't accept]] that his upbringing taught him cruelty. He's convinced himself that becoming a tool of oppression was [[ForTheEvulz his idea.idea]].
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*** They use "Oh, really, your bullies deafened and blinded your five-year-old sister when they gave her a swirlie? [[NoSympathy Boo-hoo]], wah-wah, [[QuitYourWhining suck it up, you pussy]]" when Dracone has jumped far, ''far'' beyond the MoralEventHorizon. At that point, you might as well just mock them for being too far gone for any sort of constructive criticism to work.

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** The heroes make perfectly clear that they accept Dracone's FreudianExcuse. It's probably [[DisappointedByTheMotive a lousy explanation]], but it still is ''[[ForTheEvulz an]]'' explanation.




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** In a fashion, at least: Dracone's motive is one inch higher than "[[ForTheEvulz I woke up today and decided humanity wasn't dead enough]]". After facing off against both types of monsters, the heroes [[DisappointedByTheMotive cannot decide who is worse]].
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** Dracone admits he has no idea [[ButForMeItWasTuesday from where he is now]] if his upbringing [[FreudianExcuseDenial is even relevant anymore]].

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** Dracone admits [[AmbiguousStartOfDarkness he has no idea can't really tell]] [[ButForMeItWasTuesday from where he is now]] if his upbringing [[FreudianExcuseDenial is even relevant anymore]].
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** Dracone admits he has no idea [[ButForMeItWasTuesday from where he is now]] if his upbringing [[FreudianExcuseDenial is even relevant anymore]].
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*** [[invoked]] Or in a more twisted way, Dracone believes that truly the WHOLE world is against him, not beliving anything out from him no matter how hard he tries. He's thus DrivenToSuicide, or goes off the deep end. Cue WhatAnIdiot reaction from the hero's allies.

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*** [[invoked]] Or in a more twisted way, Dracone believes that truly the WHOLE world is against him, not beliving believing anything out from him no matter how hard he tries. He's thus DrivenToSuicide, or goes off the deep end. Cue WhatAnIdiot TooDumbToLive reaction from the hero's allies.
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** Dracone was [[TykeBomb raised from infancy]] to serve a [[EvilOverlord despot]], but he [[FreudianExcuseDenial doesn't accept]] that his upbringing made him this way. He's convinced himself that becoming a tool of oppression was his choice.

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** Dracone was [[TykeBomb raised from infancy]] to serve a [[EvilOverlord despot]], but he [[FreudianExcuseDenial doesn't accept]] that his upbringing made taught him this way. cruelty. He's convinced himself that becoming a tool of oppression was his choice.idea.
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** Dracone, was [[TykeBomb raised]] to serve a [[EvilOverlord despot]], but he [[FreudianExcuseDenial doesn't accept]] that his upbringing made him this way. He's convinced that being a tool of oppression is in his blood.

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** Dracone, Dracone was [[TykeBomb raised]] raised from infancy]] to serve a [[EvilOverlord despot]], but he [[FreudianExcuseDenial doesn't accept]] that his upbringing made him this way. He's convinced himself that being becoming a tool of oppression is in was his blood.choice.
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** Dracone, was [[TykeBomb raised]] to serve a [[EvilOverlord despot]], but he [[FreudianExcuseDenial doesn't accept]] that his upbringing made him this way. He's convinced that being a tool of oppression is in his blood.
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*** Alternatively, in the best case scenario, Max [[FakeDefector only joined Dracone]] [[InternalReformist in the hopes he can help him change his ways]], which [[HeelFaceTurn ultimately works]] because of how Dracone [[VillainousFriendship formed a]] [[MoralityPet genuine bond]] [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe with him]]. [[HourglassPlot Even defending Max]] when [[SixthRanger rejoining with the other heroes]] by admitting [[BothSidesHaveAPoint they were all right]]; He had a choice in his own actions, but that included [[RousseauWasRight being able to stop himself and change for the better]].

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*** Alternatively, in the best case scenario, Max [[FakeDefector only joined Dracone]] [[InternalReformist in the hopes he can help him change his ways]], which [[HeelFaceTurn ultimately ultimately]] [[SixthRanger works]] because of how Dracone [[VillainousFriendship formed a]] [[MoralityPet genuine bond]] [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe with him]]. Even [[HourglassPlot Even defending Max]] when [[SixthRanger rejoining with Max to the other heroes]] by admitting [[BothSidesHaveAPoint they were all right]]; He had a choice in his own actions, but that included [[RousseauWasRight being able to stop himself and change for the better]].

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** In Max's absence, [[NearVillainVictory Dracone comes close to almost killing the other heroes]], but Max [[ChangedMyMindKid shows up in the nick of time]] to clarify something; [[ForgivenButNotForgotten As much as he's willing to forgive, that doesn't mean he's just gonna let him keep doing evil things]]. [[BewareTheNiceOnes Max then proceeds to overpower Dracone]] until he's at his mercy, [[RestrainedRevenge and for going as far as to almost kill his friends... Max knocks him out and has him sent to jail]], to show everyone [[TheFettered there are better ways to handle excuses than doing something morally wrong]].

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** In Max's absence, absence or defection, [[NearVillainVictory Dracone comes close to almost killing the other heroes]], but Max [[ChangedMyMindKid shows up in saves them at the nick of time]] last minute]] to clarify something; [[ForgivenButNotForgotten As much as he's willing to forgive, that doesn't mean he's just gonna let him keep doing evil things]]. [[BewareTheNiceOnes Max then proceeds to overpower Dracone]] until he's at his mercy, [[RestrainedRevenge and for going as far as to almost kill his friends... Max knocks him out and has him sent to jail]], to show everyone [[TheFettered there are better ways to handle excuses than doing something morally wrong]].wrong]].
*** Alternatively, in the best case scenario, Max [[FakeDefector only joined Dracone]] [[InternalReformist in the hopes he can help him change his ways]], which [[HeelFaceTurn ultimately works]] because of how Dracone [[VillainousFriendship formed a]] [[MoralityPet genuine bond]] [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe with him]]. [[HourglassPlot Even defending Max]] when [[SixthRanger rejoining with the other heroes]] by admitting [[BothSidesHaveAPoint they were all right]]; He had a choice in his own actions, but that included [[RousseauWasRight being able to stop himself and change for the better]].
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** The jerks who believe Dracone's excuse is no excuse and are victim-blaming jerks are the DecoyProtagonist. The real hero is the member of the cast who is more empathic about Dracone and the things he has lived… and has decided that the assholes have a smidge of a point, and that is [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer Dracone has earned himself some direly needed face-stomping]].
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** The heroes are revealed to believe, in one way or another (and hopefully misguided), in UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming.

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** The heroes are revealed to believe, in one way or another (and hopefully misguided), in UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming. Or they are [[{{Jerkass}} just plain assholes]] without [[NoSympathy a sense of empathy]]. Maybe [[JerkassHasAPoint they have a point]], because Dracone [[FromNobodyToNightmare has become too vile]], but there are members within the cast that wonder whether or not they are someone else's Freudian Excuse [[DarkSecret waiting to be exposed]] (and/or whether or not to [[AssholeVictim toss them at Dracone as a sacrifice]], if they turn out to be Dracone's Excuse)…
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** The heroes are revealed to believe, in one way or another (and hopefully misguided), in VictimBlaming.

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** The heroes are revealed to believe, in one way or another (and hopefully misguided), in VictimBlaming.UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming.
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** The heroes are revealed to believe, in one way or another (and hopefully misguided), in VictimBlaming.

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