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** General and his colleagues are loyal to the Soviet ideal of better living for the working class, [[WellIntentionedExtremist but believe that armed confrontation over it is inevitable.]]
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** General Khlebosupov and his colleagues are loyal to the Soviet ideal of better living for the working class, [[WellIntentionedExtremist but believe that armed confrontation over it is inevitable.]]
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** General is a head of the military in a state that's famous for its repressive nature even compared to their Eastern Bloc allies.
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** General is in command of one of the [[TheGulag worst Gulags]] in Soviet history.
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** General Khlebosupov is a head of the military in a state that's famous for its repressive nature even compared to their Eastern Bloc allies.
** General Khlebosupov is in command of one of the [[TheGulag worst Gulags]] in Soviet history.
** General Khlebosupov is in command of one of the [[TheGulag worst Gulags]] in Soviet history.
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** The story takes place during the reign of Lenin's Red Terror, the Khmer Rouge, [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]]'s [[ThePurge Purges]], the Great Leap Forward, China's modern-day oppression of ethnic minorities, the Holodomor, the Hue Massacre, Che Guevara and Fidel Castro's takeover of Cuba, any number of Central/South American left-wing guerilla terrorist attacks, North Korea's totalitarian police state, or [[LongList another real-life Communist atrocity]] ([[BasedOnATrueStory There's so many of them just in the last hundred years]]).
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** The story takes place during the reign of Lenin's Red Terror, the Khmer Rouge, [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]]'s [[ThePurge Purges]], the Holodomor included, the Great Leap Forward, China's modern-day oppression of ethnic minorities, the Holodomor, the Hue Massacre, Che Guevara and Fidel Castro's takeover of Cuba, any number of Central/South American left-wing guerilla terrorist attacks, North Korea's totalitarian police state, or [[LongList another real-life Communist atrocity]] ([[BasedOnATrueStory There's so many of them just in the last hundred years]]).atrocity]].
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** Despite being portrayed as villains, General Khlebosupov and his clique are at worst, ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to their own enemies like the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive morally bankrupt and tunnel-visioned corporate executives]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain deluded and arrogant white supremacists]], [[ThoseWackyNazis the Nazis]], and [[EvilReactionry reactionaries with outdated beliefs willing to kill if it means it keeps the status quo that kept them in power]].
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** Despite being portrayed as villains, General Khlebosupov and his clique are at worst, ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to their own enemies like the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive morally bankrupt and tunnel-visioned corporate executives]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain deluded and arrogant white supremacists]], [[ThoseWackyNazis the Nazis]], and [[EvilReactionry [[EvilReactionary reactionaries with outdated beliefs willing to kill if it means it keeps the status quo that kept them in power]].
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* '''Downplayed''': General and his colleagues are loyal to the Soviet ideal of better living for the working class, [[WellIntentionedExtremist but believe that armed confrontation over it is inevitable.]]
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** General and his colleagues are loyal to the Soviet ideal of better living for the working class, [[WellIntentionedExtremist but believe that armed confrontation over it is inevitable.]]]]
** Despite being portrayed as villains, General Khlebosupov and his clique are at worst, ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to their own enemies like the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive morally bankrupt and tunnel-visioned corporate executives]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain deluded and arrogant white supremacists]], [[ThoseWackyNazis the Nazis]], and [[EvilReactionry reactionaries with outdated beliefs willing to kill if it means it keeps the status quo that kept them in power]].
** General and his colleagues are loyal to the Soviet ideal of better living for the working class, [[WellIntentionedExtremist but believe that armed confrontation over it is inevitable.
** Despite being portrayed as villains, General Khlebosupov and his clique are at worst, ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to their own enemies like the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive morally bankrupt and tunnel-visioned corporate executives]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain deluded and arrogant white supremacists]], [[ThoseWackyNazis the Nazis]], and [[EvilReactionry reactionaries with outdated beliefs willing to kill if it means it keeps the status quo that kept them in power]].
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** The Communists may have good intentions, and [[NoTrueScotsman deny that Khlebosupov was a true communist]], but when they take power, a similar outcome takes place because of Communism’s failure as an ideology.
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** The Communists are mostly composed of left-leaning [[BourgeoisBumpkin upper-middle-class college kids]] that often [[StrawmanPolitical make senseless protests about causes they know nothing about]]. They constantly [[SoapboxSadie lecture others about how they're "part of the system" ]] while buying the [[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan most expensive accessories with communist imagery]] and [[PokeThePoodle ranting on Reddit or Twitter about how random people are fascists]]. They're not evil, just obnoxious and insufferable.
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** The Communists are mostly composed of left-leaning [[BourgeoisBumpkin upper-middle-class college kids]] kids that often [[StrawmanPolitical make senseless protests about causes they know nothing about]]. They constantly [[SoapboxSadie lecture others about how they're "part of the system" ]] while buying the [[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan most expensive accessories with communist imagery]] and [[PokeThePoodle ranting on Reddit or Twitter about how random people are fascists]]. They're not evil, just obnoxious and insufferable.
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** The Communists are mostly composed of left-leaning [[BorgeoisBumpkin upper-middle-class college kids]] that often [[StrawmanPolitical make senseless protests about causes they know nothing about]]. They constantly [[SoapboxSadie lecture others about how they're "part of the system" ]] while buying the [[TheManIsStickingToTheMan most expensive accessories with communist imagery]] and [[PokeThePoodle ranting on Reddit or Twitter]]. They're not evil, just obnoxious and insufferable.
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** The Communists are mostly composed of left-leaning [[BorgeoisBumpkin [[BourgeoisBumpkin upper-middle-class college kids]] that often [[StrawmanPolitical make senseless protests about causes they know nothing about]]. They constantly [[SoapboxSadie lecture others about how they're "part of the system" ]] while buying the [[TheManIsStickingToTheMan [[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan most expensive accessories with communist imagery]] and [[PokeThePoodle ranting on Reddit or Twitter]].Twitter about how random people are fascists]]. They're not evil, just obnoxious and insufferable.
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** The Communists are mostly composed of left-leaning [[BorgeoisBumpkin upper-middle-class college kids]] that often [[StrawmanPolitical make senseless protests about causes they know nothing about]]. They constantly [[SoapboxSadie lecture others about how they're "part of the system" ]] while buying the [[TheManIsStickingToTheMan most expensive accessories with communist imagery]] and [[PokeThePoodle ranting on Reddit or Twitter]]. They're not evil, just obnoxious and insufferable.
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** The story is a documentary about Mao Zedong, [[ItsPersonal written by a defector whose entire family died in the Great Leap Forward, so nobody can expect it to paint Communism or Communists in a positive light.]]
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** The story is a documentary about Mao Zedong, any communist dictator, [[ItsPersonal written by a defector whose entire family died in the Great Leap Forward, their, so nobody can expect it to paint Communism or Communists in a positive light.]]]]
** The story is told by someone who fled a communist country due to harsh conditions and brutal oppression. [[AuthorTract He's probably not going to have good things to say about his homeland]].
** The story is told by someone who fled a communist country due to harsh conditions and brutal oppression. [[AuthorTract He's probably not going to have good things to say about his homeland]].
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** There's a [[DayOfTheJackboot Communist takeover of the United States]]. To abolish private property, the new regime [[EvilIsPetty steals candy from babies]] and [[ThrewMyBikeOnTheRoof throws kids toys on roofs]].
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*** A sub-justification, though mainly focusing on his paranoia, is that [[YouHaveFailedMe if he fucks up EVEN ONCE]], then he gets sent to TheGulag or gets executed.
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** The story takes place during the reign of Lenin's Red Terror, the Khmer Rouge, [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]]'s [[ThePurge Purges]], the Great Leap Forward, China's modern-day oppression of ethnic minorities, the Holodomor, the Hue Massacre, Che Guevara and Fidel Castro's takeover of Cuba, North Korea's totalitarian police state, or another real-life Communist atrocity ([[TruthInTelevision There's so many of them]]).
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** The story takes place during the reign of Lenin's Red Terror, the Khmer Rouge, [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]]'s [[ThePurge Purges]], the Great Leap Forward, China's modern-day oppression of ethnic minorities, the Holodomor, the Hue Massacre, Che Guevara and Fidel Castro's takeover of Cuba, any number of Central/South American left-wing guerilla terrorist attacks, North Korea's totalitarian police state, or [[LongList another real-life Communist atrocity ([[TruthInTelevision atrocity]] ([[BasedOnATrueStory There's so many of them]]).them just in the last hundred years]]).
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** The story takes place during the reign of Lenin's Red Terror, the Khmer Rouge, [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]]'s [[ThePurge Purges]], the Great Leap Forward, China's modern-day oppression of ethnic minorities, the Holodomor, the Hue Massacre, Che Guevara and Fidel Castro's takeover of Cuba, North Korea's totalitarian police state, or another real-life Communist atrocity.atrocity ([[TruthInTelevision There's so many of them]]).
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** "But it wasn't real communism!!!"
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** "...yeah, it was real communism".
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** The story concerns a conflict between two Communist powers: the [[TheAlliance Workers of the World Alliance]], which [[ChummyCommies averts this trope]], and the [[TheEmpire Hammer Empire]], which [[VillainWithGoodPublicity tries to hide its nature]] under [[PropagandaMachine cheery propaganda]], but ultimately plays the trope [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans disgustingly straight]].
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** The story concerns a conflict between two Communist powers: the [[TheAlliance Workers of the World Alliance]], which [[ChummyCommies averts this trope]], and the [[TheEmpire Hammer Empire]], Vanguard Socialist State]], which [[VillainWithGoodPublicity tries to hide its nature]] under [[PropagandaMachine cheery propaganda]], but ultimately plays the trope [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans disgustingly straight]].
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** The Communists are the bad guys, but they are {{Noble Demon}}s and/or WellIntentionedExtremist[=s=]. with the entire conflict just being GoodVersusGood as two utopian nations ultimately can't share the same space.
** Alice is [[InformedAttribute introduced as a "hardline communist"]] but when they meet her she's a [[TheIngenue sweet, innocent, kind]] and [[PerpetualSmiler always smiling]] sweetheart who's maybe a bit of a GranolaGirl but is nothing like the way they described her, even listening to their political views without judging them.
** Alice is [[InformedAttribute introduced as a "hardline communist"]] but when they meet her she's a [[TheIngenue sweet, innocent, kind]] and [[PerpetualSmiler always smiling]] sweetheart who's maybe a bit of a GranolaGirl but is nothing like the way they described her, even listening to their political views without judging them.
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** Alice is [[InformedAttribute introduced as a "hardlinecommunist"]] communist"]], but when they the protagonists meet her her, she's a [[TheIngenue sweet, innocent, kind]] and [[PerpetualSmiler always smiling]] sweetheart who's maybe a bit of a GranolaGirl but is nothing like the way they described her, even listening to their political views without judging them.
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** The Communists with good-alignment morality are killed and/or detained to gulags during political purges. Those lucky enough to escape [[HeelFaceTurn defect to the Capitalist United States]].
** Alice then starts talking about her beliefs, denying the Holodomor, praising Stalin and UsefulNotes/{{Mao|Zedong}}, even praising UsefulNotes/NorthKorea and UsefulNotes/{{Serbia}}n leader Slobodan Milosevic, [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon all while speaking in a sweet, gentle voice]], [[DissonantSerenity never once breaking her smile]], which makes it all the more horrifying. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Though she draws the line at Pol Pot and Ne Win]], [[BaitTheDog she still manages to downplay their atrocities.]]
** Alice then starts talking about her beliefs, denying the Holodomor, praising Stalin and UsefulNotes/{{Mao|Zedong}}, even praising UsefulNotes/NorthKorea and UsefulNotes/{{Serbia}}n leader Slobodan Milosevic, [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon all while speaking in a sweet, gentle voice]], [[DissonantSerenity never once breaking her smile]], which makes it all the more horrifying. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Though she draws the line at Pol Pot and Ne Win]], [[BaitTheDog she still manages to downplay their atrocities.]]
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** The Communists with good-alignment morality are killed and/or detained to gulags during political purges. Those lucky enough to escape [[HeelFaceTurn defect to the Capitalist United States]].
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** Alice then starts talking about her beliefs, denying the Holodomor, praising Stalin and UsefulNotes/{{Mao|Zedong}}, even praising UsefulNotes/NorthKorea and UsefulNotes/{{Serbia}}n leader Slobodan Milosevic, [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon all while speaking in a sweet, gentlevoice]], voice]] and [[DissonantSerenity never once breaking her smile]], which makes it all the more horrifying. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Though she draws the line at Pol Pot and Ne Win]], [[BaitTheDog she still manages to downplay their atrocities.]]
** Alice then starts talking about her beliefs, denying the Holodomor, praising Stalin and UsefulNotes/{{Mao|Zedong}}, even praising UsefulNotes/NorthKorea and UsefulNotes/{{Serbia}}n leader Slobodan Milosevic, [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon all while speaking in a sweet, gentle
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** The Communists attack UsefulNotes/{{Boston}}, UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, and UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC [[AnAsskickingChristmas on Christmas Eve]], with an entire army of {{Snowlems}} under the commmand of General Winter, and it's Agent Bob's job to stop them.
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** The Communists attack UsefulNotes/{{Boston}}, UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, and UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC [[AnAsskickingChristmas on Christmas Eve]], with an entire army of {{Snowlems}} under the commmand command of General Winter, and it's Agent Bob's job to stop them.
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** A country is mentioned to have a Communist government, butthat country does not pick a fight with no more details are offered vis-à-vis its Capitalist [[TheRival rival]], nor vice versa.human rights record.
** A country is mentioned to have a Communist government, but
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** The story is a documentary about Mao Zedong, [[ItsPersonal written by a defector whose entire family died in the Great Leap Forward ... Forward, so nobody can expect it to paint Communism or Communists in a positive light.]]
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* '''Implied''': During the story itself, no Communists appear in the story, but Agent Bob makes no secret of his distaste for them, and it's hinted throughout the plot to be wholly justified.
* '''Implied''': During the story itself, no Communists appear in the story, but Agent Bob makes no secret of his distaste for them, and it's hinted throughout the plot to be wholly justified.
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* '''Conversed''': "And again, we see the Commies as the bad guys. Don't the filmmakers know that the UsefulNotes/ColdWar Cold War is over?"
* '''Implied''': During the story itself, no Communistsappear in the story, appear, but Agent Bob makes no secret of his distaste for them, and it's hinted throughout the plot to be wholly justified.
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** General Khlebosupov is an unrepentantly evil bigwig in the Soviet military apparatus ... except he's a StrawHypocrite whose sole care is for his own power, never thinking once about anything Karl Marx wrote. Most of his compatriots don't mind if he goes too far in his world domination schemes [[KarmicDeath and Agent Bob offs him]].
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** General Khlebosupov is an unrepentantly evil bigwig in the Soviet military apparatus ... except he's a StrawHypocrite whose sole care is for his own power, power and who has never thinking once thought for a second about anything Karl Marx wrote. Most of his compatriots don't mind if he goes too far in his world domination schemes [[KarmicDeath and Agent Bob offs him]].
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** Alice is [[InformedAttribute introduced as a "hardline communist"]] but when they meet her she's this [[TheIngenue sweet, innocent, kind]] and [[PerpetualSmiler always smiling]] sweetheart who's maybe a bit of a GranolaGirl but is nothing like the way they described her, even listens to their political views without judging them.
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** Alice is [[InformedAttribute introduced as a "hardline communist"]] but when they meet her she's this a [[TheIngenue sweet, innocent, kind]] and [[PerpetualSmiler always smiling]] sweetheart who's maybe a bit of a GranolaGirl but is nothing like the way they described her, even listens listening to their political views without judging them.
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** Alice then starts talking about her beliefs, denying the Holodomor, praising Stalin and Mao, even praising UsefulNotes/NorthKorea and Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic, [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon all while speaking in a sweet, gentle voice, never once breaking her smile]], which makes it all the more horrifying. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Though she draws the line at Pol Pot and Ne Win]], [[BaitTheDog but she still manages to downplay their atrocities]].
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** Alice then starts talking about her beliefs, denying the Holodomor, praising Stalin and Mao, UsefulNotes/{{Mao|Zedong}}, even praising UsefulNotes/NorthKorea and Serbian UsefulNotes/{{Serbia}}n leader Slobodan Milosevic, [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon all while speaking in a sweet, gentle voice, voice]], [[DissonantSerenity never once breaking her smile]], which makes it all the more horrifying. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Though she draws the line at Pol Pot and Ne Win]], [[BaitTheDog but she still manages to downplay their atrocities]].atrocities.]]
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** The story concerns a conflict between two Communist powers: the [[TheAlliance Workers of the World Alliance]], which [[ChummyCommies averts this trope]], and the [[TheEmpire Hammer Empire]], which [[VillainWithGoodPublicity tries to hide its nature]] under [[PropagandaMachine cheery propaganda]], but ultimately plays the trope [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans disgustinglystraight]].straight]].
** Agent Bob shows Alice incontrovertible proof that [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn the Soviet Union]], North Korea, UsefulNotes/EastGermany, RedChina, and the other Communist countries were/are really repressive places with bad living standards. She can't deny the evidence and [[HeelFaceTurn becomes a pro-Capitalist democrat]], but then she becomes a more authoritarian capitalist ... and then she comes back around to more democratic socialism...
** The story concerns a conflict between two Communist powers: the [[TheAlliance Workers of the World Alliance]], which [[ChummyCommies averts this trope]], and the [[TheEmpire Hammer Empire]], which [[VillainWithGoodPublicity tries to hide its nature]] under [[PropagandaMachine cheery propaganda]], but ultimately plays the trope [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans disgustingly
** Agent Bob shows Alice incontrovertible proof that [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn the Soviet Union]], North Korea, UsefulNotes/EastGermany, RedChina, and the other Communist countries were/are really repressive places with bad living standards. She can't deny the evidence and [[HeelFaceTurn becomes a pro-Capitalist democrat]], but then she becomes a more authoritarian capitalist ... and then she comes back around to more democratic socialism...
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** The story is a documentary about UsefulNotes/MaoZedong, Mao Zedong, [[ItsPersonal written by a defector whose entire family died in the Great Leap Forward ... nobody is expecting can expect it to paint Communism or Communists in a positive light.]]
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