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** Bob doesn't knows the name of the gadget he's describing.

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** Bob doesn't knows know the name of the gadget he's describing.



** Bob forgot the actual name of the gadget, and is using vaguely descriptive terms instead.



* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob remembers the word midway through, but then states that the first term is more appropriate, even tries to quote the dictionary, but when he tries to refer it for another time, he forgets that word and tries to come up with another word that he did not use.

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Bob remembers the word midway through, but then states that the first term is more appropriate, even tries to quote the dictionary, but when he tries to refer it for another time, he forgets that word and tries to come up with another word that he did not use.use.
** Bob's way of speaking is portrayed as SophisticatedAsHell; sometimes he speaks in scientific terms, but sometimes he uses vague descriptions.



* '''Conversed''': "God, I hate this dumb trope where they speak in such bizarre syntax. Who does he think he is, a Creator/JossWhedon character?!"

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* '''Conversed''': '''Conversed''':
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"God, I hate this dumb trope where they speak in such bizarre syntax. Who does he think he is, a Creator/JossWhedon character?!"character?!"
** "When that character called something a "glowy ghost thingy", he's talking about a hologram projector, right?"



* '''Played For Horror''': Bob is a PsychopathicManchild and this way of talking is part of his lack of mental stability.

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* '''Played For Horror''': Bob is a PsychopathicManchild and this way of talking is part of his lack of mental stability.stability.
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** Bob can't even say even say "good morning" right. Instead he says something like "nice glowy-day-morning-thingy".

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** Bob can't even say even say "good morning" right. Instead he says something like "nice glowy-day-morning-thingy".glowy-day-start-thingy".



* '''Conversed''': "You ever have that problem where you know a word, but then your mind pulls a blank, so it comes out as the closest phrase you can think of?"

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* '''Conversed''': "You ever have that problem "God, I hate this dumb trope where you know a word, but then your mind pulls a blank, so it comes out as the closest phrase you can they speak in such bizarre syntax. Who does he think of?"he is, a Creator/JossWhedon character?!"

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* '''Enforced''': The authors get encouraged to write their dialogue this way to emphasise the characters' FishOutOfWater status, and/or [[RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic increase the realism of the work's dialogue.]]

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* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
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The authors get encouraged to write their dialogue this way to emphasise the characters' FishOutOfWater status, and/or [[RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic increase the realism of the work's dialogue.]]]]
** The authors are fans of Creator/JossWhedon.
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** Calling it a "hologram projector" instead of "glowy ghost maker" would leave Bob with NoTimeToExplain what it actually does to Charles.
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** At least, [[FluentInMyNativeTongue not in English]].

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* '''Subverted''': Bob remembers the word midway through, calling it a "glowy ghost...uh, hologram projector!"

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Bob remembers the word midway through, calling it a "glowy ghost...uh, hologram projector!"projector!"
** Alternatively, he was referring to a nameless projector in development, and that's what they decide to name it.

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* '''Defied''': Alice looks up the definition of a word on her phone so she can use the correct word instead of awkwardly describing it.

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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
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Alice looks up the definition of a word on her phone so she can use the correct word instead of awkwardly describing it. it.
** The executives of the InUniverse production that has writers using this kind of dialect for their characters order the dialogue to be changed to one that sounds more understandable by general audiences.
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** This way of speaking is a full-blown {{Newspeak}} FutureSlang lexicon,

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** This way of speaking is a full-blown {{Newspeak}} FutureSlang lexicon, lexicon.
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Playing with pages aren't supposed to directly reference examples from media by name, right?


* '''Enforced''': ''Film/TheAvengers2012'' is one of the highest acclaimed films of all time. All of the heroes talked like this at one point of the film or another, usually [[CasualDangerDialogue in the middle of an action scene]], so the writers of ''Alice and Bob'' decided that it was okay to replicate.

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* '''Enforced''': ''Film/TheAvengers2012'' is one The authors get encouraged to write their dialogue this way to emphasise the characters' FishOutOfWater status, and/or [[RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic increase the realism of the highest acclaimed films of all time. All of the heroes talked like this at one point of the film or another, usually [[CasualDangerDialogue in the middle of an action scene]], so the writers of ''Alice and Bob'' decided that it was okay to replicate.work's dialogue.]]
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* '''Implied''': ??

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* '''Implied''': ??Bob always caries a dictionary, and search for words in it every time he talks with someone. Light suddenly goes off, while Bob is holding a lecture at night.

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** The only words Bob is able to say, when he tries to speak, are "that thing", but still can understand words said by others.



* '''Parodied''': ??

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* '''Parodied''': ??Bob says nonsensical words by trying to describe the specific thing.



* '''Zig Zagged''': ??

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ??Bob remembers the word midway through, but then states that the first term is more appropriate, even tries to quote the dictionary, but when he tries to refer it for another time, he forgets that word and tries to come up with another word that he did not use.
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** Bob can't even say even say "good morning" right. Instead she says something like "nice glowy-day-morning-thingy".

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** Bob can't even say even say "good morning" right. Instead she he says something like "nice glowy-day-morning-thingy".
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* '''Conversed''': "You ever have that problem where you know a word, but the your mind pulls a blank, so it comes out as the closest phrase you can think of?"

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* '''Conversed''': "You ever have that problem where you know a word, but the then your mind pulls a blank, so it comes out as the closest phrase you can think of?"
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* '''Conversed''': ??

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* '''Conversed''': ??"You ever have that problem where you know a word, but the your mind pulls a blank, so it comes out as the closest phrase you can think of?"

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'''Basic Trope''': A strange syntax utilizing vaguely descriptive terms for words and overall apes stereotypical ValleyGirl lexicon.

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'''Basic Trope''': A strange syntax utilizing vaguely descriptive terms for words and overall apes stereotypical ValleyGirl lexicon.
words.



** "Dumbass Alice" is a DumbBlonde who can't even say even say "good morning" right. Instead she says something like "nice glowy-day-morning-thingy".
** Whedon-speak is a full-blown {{Newspeak}} FutureSlang lexicon. The whole cast abuses adding "-y" to the end of words like other people [[WantonCrueltyToTheCommonComma abuse commas and apostrophes]], the word "like" [[LikeIsLikeAComma is used like a comma]], and in perspective it makes the whole lot of them sound like [[Film/AClockworkOrange Alex DeLarge's]] valley-girl cousins.
* '''Downplayed''':
** The use of valley-girl speak is only used in moments when Bob's brain is very visibly not working at full steam.
** The typical mangled lexicon of this trope is utilized in a SophisticatedAsHell fashion.

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** "Dumbass Alice" is a DumbBlonde who Bob can't even say even say "good morning" right. Instead she says something like "nice glowy-day-morning-thingy".
** Whedon-speak This way of speaking is a full-blown {{Newspeak}} FutureSlang lexicon. The whole cast abuses adding "-y" to the end lexicon,
* '''Downplayed''': Bob gets most
of words like other people [[WantonCrueltyToTheCommonComma abuse commas and apostrophes]], the word "like" [[LikeIsLikeAComma is used like a comma]], and in perspective right, referring to it makes the whole lot of them sound like [[Film/AClockworkOrange Alex DeLarge's]] valley-girl cousins.
* '''Downplayed''':
** The use of valley-girl speak is only used in moments when Bob's brain is very visibly not working at full steam.
** The typical mangled lexicon of this trope is utilized in
as a SophisticatedAsHell fashion."hologram projecting thing."



** Alice doesn't knows the specific lexicon that she's trying to convey.



** They are both dumb.
** Alice and Bob have dyslexia, aphasia or some other disability.
** The terms they are using, like leet-speak, are the result of MemeticMutation and thus they make as much sense to them as it is for a ten-year-old in the Twenties to say "jeepers!"

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** They are both dumb.
** Alice and
Bob have dyslexia, aphasia has trouble reading or some other disability.
** The terms they are using, like leet-speak, are the result of MemeticMutation and thus they make as much sense to them as it is for a ten-year-old in the Twenties to say "jeepers!"
pronouncing certain words.



* '''Subverted''': Alice is verbose, it just takes her a few more seconds to figure out the necessary words.
* '''Double Subverted''': But she still very notably phrases "thing" as "thingy".
* '''Parodied''': The scenes in which Alice talks are an outright {{Homage}} the jive-talkers of ''Film/{{Airplane}}'', ironically juxtaposing highly verbose and meaningful subtitled meaning against her barely-comprehensible Creator/JossWhedon-esque valley-girl vocabulary.

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* '''Subverted''': Alice is verbose, it just takes her a few more seconds to figure out Bob remembers the necessary words.
word midway through, calling it a "glowy ghost...uh, hologram projector!"
* '''Double Subverted''': But she still very notably phrases "thing" Subverted''':
** He calls it the "glowy ghost hologram projector...thingy."
** He remembers the name for the hologram projector, but then refers to the ghosts
as "thingy".
"creepy undead things."
* '''Parodied''': The scenes in which Alice talks are an outright {{Homage}} the jive-talkers of ''Film/{{Airplane}}'', ironically juxtaposing highly verbose and meaningful subtitled meaning against her barely-comprehensible Creator/JossWhedon-esque valley-girl vocabulary.??



* '''Averted''': Alice speaks normally.
* '''Lampshaded''': "I'm sorry -- what the ''hell'' did you just say?"
** "I know what I want to say, but it's always at the tip of my tongue! So frustrating..."

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* '''Averted''': Alice speaks normally.
Bob remembers the name for the hologram projector.
* '''Lampshaded''': "I'm sorry -- what the ''hell'' did you just say?"
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"I know what I want to say, but it's always at the tip of my tongue! So frustrating..."



* '''Defied''': "Here's a thesaurus, a dictionary, and a language course. Don't even think of talking to me until you've read them all."

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* '''Defied''': "Here's a thesaurus, a dictionary, and a language course. Don't even think Alice looks up the definition of talking to me until you've read them all."a word on her phone so she can use the correct word instead of awkwardly describing it.



* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Implied''': We don't hear Alice talk, but Charlie's immediate reaction is to pull out ''[[TropesForDummies Whedon-speak For Dummies]]''.

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* '''Conversed''': ???
??
* '''Implied''': We don't hear Alice talk, but Charlie's immediate reaction is to pull out ''[[TropesForDummies Whedon-speak For Dummies]]''.??



** Alice is deemed stupid because of her lexicon, leading to such things as bullying.

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** Alice is deemed stupid because of her lexicon, leading to such things as bullying.lexicon and gets bullied.



* '''Played For Drama''': This way of talking is [[CerebusRetcon revealed to be the result]] of aphasia that Bob developed after barely surviving being shot in the head in a UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} copy-cat and it [[BerserkButton seriously makes him angry]] when people bring it up.
* '''Played For Horror''': Bob is a PsychopathicManchild and this way of talking is part of his lack of mental stability.
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': The character who talks like this is a complete idiot that gets PutOnABusToHell, making it a major TakeThat at Whedon-speak.

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* '''Played For Drama''': This way of talking is [[CerebusRetcon revealed to be the result]] of aphasia that Bob developed after barely surviving being shot in the a serious head in a UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} copy-cat and it [[BerserkButton seriously makes him angry]] when people bring it up.
injury.
* '''Played For Horror''': Bob is a PsychopathicManchild and this way of talking is part of his lack of mental stability.
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': The character who talks like this is a complete idiot that gets PutOnABusToHell, making it a major TakeThat at Whedon-speak.
stability.
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** "I know what I want to say, but it's always at the tip of my tongue! So frustrating..."

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* '''Enforced''': ''Film/TheAvengers2012'' is one of the greatest films of all time. All of the heroes talked like this at one point of the film or another, usually [[CasualDangerDialogue in the middle of an action scene]]. So the writers of ''Alice and Bob'' decided that it was okay to replicate.

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* '''Enforced''': ''Film/TheAvengers2012'' is one of the greatest highest acclaimed films of all time. All of the heroes talked like this at one point of the film or another, usually [[CasualDangerDialogue in the middle of an action scene]]. So scene]], so the writers of ''Alice and Bob'' decided that it was okay to replicate.



* '''Lampshaded''':
** "I'm sorry -- what the ''hell'' did you just said?"
** "...I swear, one of these days I will find Joss Whedon, shoot him, and use his cadaver as kindling to burn all of California."
* '''Invoked''': Alice uses this kind of speaking for ObfuscatingStupidity.
* '''Exploited''': Evulz exploits the additional three seconds it takes for Alice to make herself understood [[TalkingIsAFreeAction to perform]] [[AvertedTrope an ambush]].
* '''Defied''':
** "Here's a thesaurus, a dictionary, and a language course. Don't even think of talking to me until you've read them all."

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* '''Lampshaded''':
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'''Lampshaded''': "I'm sorry -- what the ''hell'' did you just said?"
** "...I swear, one of these days I will find Joss Whedon, shoot him, and use his cadaver as kindling to burn all of California."
say?"
* '''Invoked''': Alice uses speaks this kind of speaking for ObfuscatingStupidity.
way to [[ObfuscatingStupidity mask her intelligence]].
* '''Exploited''': Evulz exploits the additional three seconds it takes for Alice to make herself understood [[TalkingIsAFreeAction to perform]] [[AvertedTrope perform an ambush]].
ambush.
* '''Defied''':
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'''Defied''': "Here's a thesaurus, a dictionary, and a language course. Don't even think of talking to me until you've read them all."



* '''Conversed''': "Ever since ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' and ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', everybody thinks it's oh-soooooo-''cute'' to have even the supergenius with the dozen [=PHDs=] talk like a '''[[AtomicFBomb FUCKING]]''' stoner, don't they?"

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* '''Conversed''': "Ever since ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' and ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', everybody thinks it's oh-soooooo-''cute'' to have even the supergenius with the dozen [=PHDs=] talk like a '''[[AtomicFBomb FUCKING]]''' stoner, don't they?"???



* '''Reconstructed''':
** Alice demonstrates that she can talk fine, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness she just prefers to save it for truly serious moments]].

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* '''Reconstructed''':
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'''Reconstructed''': Alice demonstrates that she can talk fine, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness she just prefers to save it for truly serious moments]].
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* '''Enforced''': ''Film/TheAvengers2012'' is one of the greatest films of all time. All of the heroes talked like this at one point of the film or another, usually [[CasualDangerConversation in the middle of an action scene]]. So the writers of ''Alice and Bob'' decided that it was okay to replicate.

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* '''Enforced''': ''Film/TheAvengers2012'' is one of the greatest films of all time. All of the heroes talked like this at one point of the film or another, usually [[CasualDangerConversation [[CasualDangerDialogue in the middle of an action scene]]. So the writers of ''Alice and Bob'' decided that it was okay to replicate.
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* '''Conversed''': "Ever since ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' and ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', everybody thinks it's oh-soooooo-''cute'' to have even the supergenius with the dozen [=PHDs=] talk like a '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' stoner, don't they?"

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* '''Conversed''': "Ever since ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' and ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', everybody thinks it's oh-soooooo-''cute'' to have even the supergenius with the dozen [=PHDs=] talk like a '''[[PrecisionFStrike '''[[AtomicFBomb FUCKING]]''' stoner, don't they?"
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** Whedon-speak is a full-blown {{Newspeak}} FutureSlang lexicon. The whole cast abuses adding "-y" to the end of words like other people [[WantonCrueltyToTheCommonComma abuse commas and apostrophes]], the word "like" [[LikeIsLikeAComma is]] used like a comma, and in perspective it makes the whole lot of them sound like [[Film/AClockworkOrange Alex DeLarge's]] valley-girl cousins.

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** Whedon-speak is a full-blown {{Newspeak}} FutureSlang lexicon. The whole cast abuses adding "-y" to the end of words like other people [[WantonCrueltyToTheCommonComma abuse commas and apostrophes]], the word "like" [[LikeIsLikeAComma is]] is used like a comma, comma]], and in perspective it makes the whole lot of them sound like [[Film/AClockworkOrange Alex DeLarge's]] valley-girl cousins.
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'''Basic Trope''': A strange syntax utilizing vaguely descriptive terms for words and overall apes stereotypical ValleyGirl lexicon.

* '''Straight''': Bob calls a hologram projector a "glowy ghost thingy" in a moment when he can't recall the specific term (maybe after [[ConcussionsGetYouHigh getting beaned on the head a bit too hard]]).
* '''Exaggerated''':
** "Dumbass Alice" is a DumbBlonde who can't even say even say "good morning" right. Instead she says something like "nice glowy-day-morning-thingy".
** Whedon-speak is a full-blown {{Newspeak}} FutureSlang lexicon. The whole cast abuses adding "-y" to the end of words like other people [[WantonCrueltyToTheCommonComma abuse commas and apostrophes]], the word "like" [[LikeIsLikeAComma is]] used like a comma, and in perspective it makes the whole lot of them sound like [[Film/AClockworkOrange Alex DeLarge's]] valley-girl cousins.
* '''Downplayed''': The use of valley-girl speak is only used in moments when Bob's brain is very visibly not working at full steam.
* '''Justified''':
** Alice doesn't knows the specific lexicon that she's trying to convey.
** Bob doesn't knows the name of the gadget he's describing.
** They are both dumb.
** Alice and Bob have dyslexia, aphasia or some other disability.
** The terms they are using, like leet-speak, are the result of MemeticMutation and thus they make as much sense to them as it is for a ten-year-old in the Twenties to say "jeepers!"
* '''Inverted''': Alice's [[TheKlutz actions paint her]] as a DumbBlonde, but when she speaks she uses LittleProfessorDialog.
* '''Subverted''': Alice is verbose, it just takes her a few more seconds to figure out the necessary words.
* '''Double Subverted''': But she still very notably phrases "thing" as "thingy".
* '''Parodied''': The scenes in which Alice talks are an outright {{Homage}} the jive-talkers of ''Film/{{Airplane}}'', ironically juxtaposing highly verbose and meaningful subtitled meaning against her barely-comprehensible Creator/JossWhedon-esque valley-girl vocabulary.
* '''Enforced''': ''Film/TheAvengers2012'' is one of the greatest films of all time. All of the heroes talked like this at one point of the film or another, usually [[CasualDangerConversation in the middle of an action scene]]. So the writers of ''Alice and Bob'' decided that it was okay to replicate.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ??
* '''Averted''': Alice speaks normally.
* '''Lampshaded''':
** "I'm sorry -- what the ''hell'' did you just said?"
** "...I swear, one of these days I will find Joss Whedon, shoot him, and use his cadaver as kindling to burn all of California."
* '''Invoked''': Alice uses this kind of speaking for ObfuscatingStupidity.
* '''Exploited''': Evulz exploits the additional three seconds it takes for Alice to make herself understood [[TalkingIsAFreeAction to perform]] [[AvertedTrope an ambush]].
* '''Defied''':
** "Here's a thesaurus, a dictionary, and a language course. Don't even think of talking to me until you've read them all."
* '''Discussed''': "It takes longer to make sense of what she's saying, but Alice [[HiddenDepths is smarter than she looks]]."
* '''Conversed''': "Ever since ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' and ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', everybody thinks it's oh-soooooo-''cute'' to have even the supergenius with the dozen [=PHDs=] talk like a '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' stoner, don't they?"
* '''Implied''': We don't hear Alice talk, but Charlie's immediate reaction is to pull out ''[[TropesForDummies Whedon-speak For Dummies]]''.
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Alice is deemed stupid because of her lexicon, leading to such things as bullying.
** Alice's refusal to talk about things by their proper terms make people lose respect of her, mainly because she doesn't seems to be taking things seriously.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** Alice demonstrates that she can talk fine, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness she just prefers to save it for truly serious moments]].
* '''Played For Laughs''': Alice is the PluckyComicRelief and this way of talking is her major RunningGag.
* '''Played For Drama''': This way of talking is [[CerebusRetcon revealed to be the result]] of aphasia that Bob developed after barely surviving being shot in the head in a UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} copy-cat and it [[BerserkButton seriously makes him angry]] when people bring it up.
* '''Played For Horror''': Bob is a PsychopathicManchild and this way of talking is part of his lack of mental stability.
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': The character who talks like this is a complete idiot that gets PutOnABusToHell, making it a major TakeThat at Whedon-speak.

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