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** ten-thousand-plus possible deductions [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief stretches believability]] a bit too much.

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** the first of ten-thousand-plus possible deductions [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief stretches believability]] a bit too much.

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* '''Double Subverted''': Batman has an EurekaMoment and provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts. Hey, wait a moment Batman... that reasoning is fine, but it is based on the knowledge of the hour of the day when the Joker took a bus. How did you know that? "[[HandWave Because I'm Batman!]]"

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** Batman merely lucked out in that Option #1 of X possible deductions was correct.
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has an EurekaMoment and provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts. Hey, wait a moment Batman... that reasoning is fine, but it is based on the knowledge of the hour of the day when the Joker took a bus. How did you know that? "[[HandWave Because I'm Batman!]]"Batman!]]"
** ten-thousand-plus possible deductions [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief stretches believability]] a bit too much.
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* '''Reconstructed''': The Joker is then ambushed by Batman and the police at the very next place he goes to, [[BatmanGambit with Batman having known that the Joker might give up if he at least wasn't there to stop him]], and would come somewhere like here instead. In the end, the cops take away the Joker, [[ActuallyPrettyFunny who is laughing at the irony]] of Batman using ''him'' for his next plan.

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* '''Reconstructed''': The Joker is then ambushed by Batman and the police at the very next place he goes to, [[BatmanGambit with Batman having known that the Joker might give up if he at least wasn't there to stop him]], and would come somewhere like here instead. In the end, the cops take away the Joker, [[ActuallyPrettyFunny who is laughing at the irony]] of Batman using ''him'' for his next plan.plan instead.
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* '''Discussed''': (continued from Defied) Batman: "Very well, commissioner, [[TheSummation here's what we know so far...]]"

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* '''Discussed''': (continued from Defied) Batman: "Very well, commissioner, [[TheSummation here's what we know so far...far based on our current evidence,]] [[BatmanGambit and some ideas of where they would normally fit in...]]"
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* '''Exaggerated''': Batman finds out everything about the Joker: his whereabouts, his purpose, his hidden allies, the number of bullets in his gun, what he ate that morning...

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* '''Exaggerated''': Batman finds out everything about the Joker: his whereabouts, his purpose, his hidden allies, the number of bullets in his gun, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking what he ate that morning...]]
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* '''Exploited''': ???

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* '''Exploited''': ???The Joker put a bug in the rainbow colored bouquet, and uses Batman's tendency to solve riddles with little to work with to have him unwittingly plan his next scheme.
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'''Basic Trope''': The hero finds the solution to a mystery, but his limited knowledge of the problem should not have allowed him to.

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'''Basic Trope''': The hero finds the solution to a mystery, but his their limited knowledge of the problem should not have allowed him them to.

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* '''Subverted''': Batman has an EurekaMoment and provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Batman has an EurekaMoment and provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts.whereabouts.
** Batman can't figure out where the Joker is and starts searching at random... and the Joker happens to be in the first place he tries.
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* '''Downplayed''': Batman attempts to explain how did he realize the Joker's whereabouts, but his explanation is still incomplete.

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* '''Downplayed''': Batman attempts to explain how did he realize realized the Joker's whereabouts, but his explanation is still incomplete.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Batman finds out everything about the Joker: his whereabouts, his purpose, his hidden allies, the number of bullets in his gun, what he ate hat morning...

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* '''Exaggerated''': Batman finds out everything about the Joker: his whereabouts, his purpose, his hidden allies, the number of bullets in his gun, what he ate hat that morning...
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* '''Exaggerated''': Batman finds out everything about the joker: his whereabouts, his purpose, his hidden allies, the number of bullets in his gun, what did he eat in the morning...

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* '''Exaggerated''': Batman finds out everything about the joker: Joker: his whereabouts, his purpose, his hidden allies, the number of bullets in his gun, what did he eat in the ate hat morning...



* '''Implied''': The Joker gloats [[TemptingFate that Batman will never find him]]. Batman shows up immediately after he said that. He never mentions how did he found him.

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* '''Implied''': The Joker gloats [[TemptingFate that Batman will never find him]]. Batman shows up immediately after he said that. He never mentions how did he found ''did'' find him.
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* '''Discussed''': ???

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* '''Discussed''': ???(continued from Defied) Batman: "Very well, commissioner, [[TheSummation here's what we know so far...]]"
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* '''Reconstructed''': The Joker is then ambushed by Batman and the police at the very next place he goes to, [[BatmanGambit: with Batman having known that the Joker might give up if he at least wasn't there to stop him]], and would come somewhere like here instead. In the end, the cops take away the Joker, [[ActuallyPrettyFunny who is laughing at the irony]] of Batman using ''him'' for his next plan.
** [[CliffHanger Alternatively...]] "Will the Joker really give up just like that? What exactly is taking Batman so long? Who is the joke ''really'' on? Find out next time, same Bat-Page, same Bat-Site!"

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* '''Reconstructed''': The Joker is then ambushed by Batman and the police at the very next place he goes to, [[BatmanGambit: [[BatmanGambit with Batman having known that the Joker might give up if he at least wasn't there to stop him]], and would come somewhere like here instead. In the end, the cops take away the Joker, [[ActuallyPrettyFunny who is laughing at the irony]] of Batman using ''him'' for his next plan.
** [[CliffHanger Alternatively...]] "Will the Joker really give up just like that? What exactly is taking Batman so long? Who is the joke ''really'' on? Find out next time, same Bat-Page, Bat-Example, same Bat-Site!"Bat-Trope!"

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** Alternatively...
--> "Will the Joker really give up just like that? What exactly is taking Batman so long? Who is the joke ''really'' on? [[CliffHanger Tune in next time]], same Bat-Time, same Bat-Channel!"

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** Alternatively...
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[[CliffHanger Alternatively...]] "Will the Joker really give up just like that? What exactly is taking Batman so long? Who is the joke ''really'' on? [[CliffHanger Tune in Find out next time]], time, same Bat-Time, Bat-Page, same Bat-Channel!"Bat-Site!"

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** Will the Joker really give up just like that? What exactly is taking Batman so long? Who is the joke really on? [[CliffHanger Tune in next time]], same Bat-Time, same Bat-Channel!

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** Will Alternatively...
--> "Will
the Joker really give up just like that? What exactly is taking Batman so long? Who is the joke really ''really'' on? [[CliffHanger Tune in next time]], same Bat-Time, same Bat-Channel!Bat-Channel!"

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* '''Reconstructed''': The Joker is then ambushed by Batman and the police at the very next place he goes to, [[BatmanGambit: with Batman having known that the Joker might give up if he at least wasn't there to stop him]], and would come here instead. In the end, the Joker is hauled away by police, [[ActuallyPrettyFunny laughing at the irony]], that Batman's plan relied on ''him''.

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* '''Reconstructed''': The Joker is then ambushed by Batman and the police at the very next place he goes to, [[BatmanGambit: with Batman having known that the Joker might give up if he at least wasn't there to stop him]], and would come somewhere like here instead. In the end, the Joker is hauled cops take away by police, the Joker, [[ActuallyPrettyFunny who is laughing at the irony]], that Batman's plan relied on ''him''. irony]] of Batman using ''him'' for his next plan.
** Will the Joker really give up just like that? What exactly is taking Batman so long? Who is the joke really on? [[CliffHanger Tune in next time]], same Bat-Time, same Bat-Channel!

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* '''Reconstructed''': The Joker is then ambushed by Batman and the police at the very next place he goes to, [[BatmanGambit: with Batman having known that the Joker might give up if he at least wasn't there to stop him]], and would come here instead. In the end, the Joker is hauled away by police, [[ActuallyPrettyFunny laughing at the irony]], that Batman's plan relied on ''him''.



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Back to BatDeduction

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Back Hm...Pizza days are usually on Friday...the number of bananas that make up a bunch is generally considered to BatDeductionbe three or more...my shoes are a size too small...Good Lord! you want to go back to BatDeduction, don't you?!

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* '''Implied''': The Joker gloats [[TemptingFate that Batman will never find him]]. Batman shows up immediately after he said that. He never mentions how did he found him.

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* '''Implied''': The Joker gloats [[TemptingFate that Batman will never find him]]. Batman shows up immediately after he said that. He never mentions how did he found him. him.
* '''Deconstructed''': The Joker intends to use Batman for his next plan but overestimates Batman's ability to deduce where he is. Batman never finds the Joker and the latter can't continue with his plan.



* '''Deconstructed''': The Joker intends to use Batman for his next plan but overestimates Batman's ability to deduce where he is. Batman never finds the Joker and the latter can't continue with his plan.

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* '''Deconstructed''': The Joker intends to use Batman for his next plan but overestimates Batman's ability to deduce where he is. Batman never finds the Joker and the latter can't continue with his plan.



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* '''Justified''': Batman knows that the Joker has always prepared his traps at the Amusement Park. There's no need to think it so hard this time: he must be in the Amusement Park, again.

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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Batman knows that the Joker has always prepared his traps at the Amusement Park. There's no need to think it so hard this time: he must be in the Amusement Park, again.



* '''Inverted''': Batman provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts... but he was mistaken. And the Joker ''knew'' he would commit that mistake. [[HandWave Because he's the Joker!]].

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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Batman provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts... but he was mistaken. And the Joker ''knew'' he would commit that mistake. [[HandWave Because he's the Joker!]].
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'''Basic Trope''': The hero finds the solution for a mistery, but his limited knowledge of the problem should not have allowed him to.
* '''Straight''': There are no clues on the whereabouts of the Joker, but Batman finds him anyway. [[HandWave Because he's Batman!]]

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'''Basic Trope''': The hero finds the solution for to a mistery, mystery, but his limited knowledge of the problem should not have allowed him to.
* '''Straight''': There are no very few clues on leading to the whereabouts of the Joker, but Batman finds him anyway. [[HandWave Because he's Batman!]]



* '''Downplayed''': Batman attemps to explain how did he realize the Joker's whereabouts, but his explanation is still incomplete.
* '''Justified''': Batman knows that the Joker has always prepared his traps at the Amusement Park. There's no need to think it so hard this time: he must be in the Amusement Park, again.
* '''Inverted''': Batman provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts... but he was mistaken. And the Joker ''knew'' he would commit that mistake. [[HandWave Because he's the Joker!]].

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* '''Downplayed''': Batman attemps attempts to explain how did he realize the Joker's whereabouts, but his explanation is still incomplete.
* '''Justified''': Batman knows that the Joker has always prepared his traps at the Amusement Park. There's no need to think it so hard this time: he must be in the Amusement Park, again.again.
** Most of Batman's deductions were made in his head, made unaware to the viewer.

* '''Inverted''': Batman provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts... but he was mistaken. And the Joker ''knew'' he would commit that mistake. [[HandWave Because he's the Joker!]]. Joker!]].
** Batman is given a substantial amount of evidence leading to the Joker's hideout, but [[ComicallyMissingThePoint comes to the wrong conclusion]].



* '''Parodied''': ???

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* '''Parodied''': ???Batman deduces the Joker's whereabouts by randomly saying words until one of them feels right.

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* '''Defied''': ???

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* '''Defied''': ???Gordon: "Wait a moment, Batman! I'm not taking my men anywhere unless you explain what makes you think that the Joker is at the Amusement Park!"



* '''Implied''': The Joker gloats [[TemptingFate that Batman will never find him]]. Batman shows up immediately after he said that. He never mentions how did he found him.
* '''Played For Laughs''': There's absolutely no clue on the location of the Joker. He can be anywhere. And Batman finds the solution completely from out of the blue.



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'''Basic Trope''': The hero finds the solution for a mistery, but his limited knowledge of the problem should not have allowed him to.
* '''Straight''': There are no clues on the whereabouts of the Joker, but Batman finds him anyway. [[HandWave Because he's Batman!]]
* '''Exaggerated''': Batman finds out everything about the joker: his whereabouts, his purpose, his hidden allies, the number of bullets in his gun, what did he eat in the morning...
* '''Downplayed''': Batman attemps to explain how did he realize the Joker's whereabouts, but his explanation is still incomplete.
* '''Justified''': Batman knows that the Joker has always prepared his traps at the Amusement Park. There's no need to think it so hard this time: he must be in the Amusement Park, again.
* '''Inverted''': Batman provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts... but he was mistaken. And the Joker ''knew'' he would commit that mistake. [[HandWave Because he's the Joker!]].
* '''Subverted''': Batman has an EurekaMoment and provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts.
* '''Double Subverted''': Batman has an EurekaMoment and provides a very sound reasoning for his deduction of the Joker's whereabouts. Hey, wait a moment Batman... that reasoning is fine, but it is based on the knowledge of the hour of the day when the Joker took a bus. How did you know that? "[[HandWave Because I'm Batman!]]"
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': Batman has a small clue of the Joker's whereabouts. The small clue led to another clue, and then to another, and finally to the main reveal. The process is completely clear for the reader.
* '''Enforced''': There are not enough pages left for a big detective work. Let's get on with that, [[JustHereForGodzilla and head to the fight scenes]].
* '''Lampshaded''': (VisibleSigh) "I don't know how you do it, Batman..."
* '''Invoked''': "Hiya, Batsy. What took you so long?"
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': ???
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???

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