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* The cutscene you see after you defeat "???" in The Answer. Enjoy the sight of someone dissolving, one layer of flesh at a time; starting off by giving you a good eyeful of the protagonist's blood-red, ''skinless'', ''eyeless'' face.

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* The cutscene you see after you defeat "???" in The Answer. Enjoy the sight of someone dissolving, one layer of flesh at a time; starting off by giving you a good eyeful of the protagonist's blood-red, ''skinless'', ''eyeless'' face. It ends with a closeup of their beating heart and watching their torso dissolve into ''butterflies''.

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** Last but not least, she is actually your ''friend'' in the form of Pharos and Ryoji, and Aigis sealed this thing inside ''YOU''. Not only your childhood friend is actually an EldritchAbomination, you are also a host of doom. And you still have to deal with fighting her; Nyx Avatar's battle dialogue just feels like that she doesn't even want to fight you and she's apparently bored trying to do it.

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** Last but not least, she is actually your ''friend'' in the form of Pharos and Ryoji, and Aigis sealed this thing inside ''YOU''. Not only your childhood friend is actually an EldritchAbomination, you are also a host of doom. And you still have to deal with fighting her; Nyx Avatar's battle dialogue just feels like that she doesn't even want to fight you and she's apparently bored trying to do it.it, both because she used to be your friend and she thinks you are absolutely no resistance to her.

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** Last but not least, she is actually your ''friend'' in the form of Pharos and Ryoji, and Aigis sealed this thing inside ''YOU''. Not only your childhood friend is actually an EldritchAbomination, you are also a host of doom. And you still have to deal with fighting her; Nyx Avatar's battle dialogue just feels like that she doesn't even want to fight you and she's apparently bored trying to do it.


* How about Apathy Syndrome in general? The idea that you, your best friend, your mother, your partner, or anyone else you know could be out wandering the streets in a semi-catatonic state, slowly starving to death or dying of thirst, totally helpless to [[RapeIsASpecialKindofEvil every]] [[ColdBloodedTorture sadistic whim]] [[SnuffFilm of random strangers?]]

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* How about Apathy Syndrome in general? The idea that you, your best friend, your mother, your partner, or anyone else you know could be out wandering the streets in a semi-catatonic state, slowly starving to death or dying of thirst, totally helpless to [[RapeIsASpecialKindofEvil every]] [[ColdBloodedTorture every sadistic whim]] [[SnuffFilm whim of random strangers?]]



* [[spoiler:[[BigBad Mitsuru's Grandfather]] was [[MadScientist into human experimentation]]]] and this resulted in the 12 Shadows. It's also stated [[spoiler:he [[KickTheDog experimented on his own granddaughter]], [[LadyOfWar Mitsuru]], at a young age to get her a Persona]].
* [[spoiler:[[EldritchAbomination Nyx]]]]. She [[spoiler:is the actual personification of Death, responsible for creating Thanatos, the Persona that claws out of you in the beginning, ''and'' the Reaper that stalks you in Tartarus. Oh, and this thing]] is the FinalBoss. She isn't all that terrifying if not for the fact that she [[spoiler:is merely fulfilling her purpose; when humanity becomes too self-destructive, she will descend from her shell [[ThatsNoMoon in the Moon]] and]] brings upon [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Fall]]. That's right, [[spoiler:Death itself thinks that humanity wishes for the end of the world, and so she comes to grant that]]!
** The Fall itself is a very horrifying way to wipe life off the face of Earth. Every single living thing will be consumed from the inside out by its own desire for destruction. Thus everything, everywhere, will lose all sense of self and become a mindless, soulless shell that can only moan and whimper, completely unaware of its own death. And if the protagonists challenge this fate, [[spoiler:Nyx Avatar]] warns that the protagonists will suffer an even more horrible fate, and ''then'' die. [[spoiler:And in the end, Nyx proves to be unkillable even after you defeat her Avatar, and The Fall is only averted after the protagonist sacrifices himself to prove that it isn't the time for her to end humanity yet. She ''will'' come back, if humanity's mind calls her again]].
** It's worse than that still. Nyx [[spoiler: isn't even malicious or capable of causing The Fall on her own. Instead she's meant to descend from the heavens and join with Erebus, ''the manifestation of humanity's collective desire to die'' to bring about The Fall. Death doesn't ''think'' humanity wishes for the end of the world, we ''do''. We want it so much that we unconsciously created a creature from the depths of the Collective Unconscious to ''do just that.'']]
* Later when [[spoiler:Nyx's true form is revealed]], people [[spoiler: who believed in the apocalyptic rumours that Takaya and Jin were spreading throughout Port Island]] start randomly exploding into shadows in ecstasy!

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* [[spoiler:[[BigBad [[BigBad Mitsuru's Grandfather]] was [[MadScientist into human experimentation]]]] experimentation]] and this resulted in the 12 Shadows. It's also stated [[spoiler:he he [[KickTheDog experimented on his own granddaughter]], [[LadyOfWar Mitsuru]], at a young age to get her a Persona]].
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* [[spoiler:[[EldritchAbomination Nyx]]]]. [[EldritchAbomination Nyx]]. She [[spoiler:is is the actual personification of Death, responsible for creating Thanatos, the Persona that claws out of you in the beginning, ''and'' the Reaper that stalks you in Tartarus. Oh, and this thing]] thing is the FinalBoss. She isn't all that terrifying if not for the fact that she [[spoiler:is is merely fulfilling her purpose; when humanity becomes too self-destructive, she will descend from her shell [[ThatsNoMoon in the Moon]] and]] and brings upon [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Fall]]. That's right, [[spoiler:Death Death itself thinks that humanity wishes for the end of the world, and so she comes to grant that]]!
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** The Fall itself is a very horrifying way to wipe life off the face of Earth. Every single living thing will be consumed from the inside out by its own desire for destruction. Thus everything, everywhere, will lose all sense of self and become a mindless, soulless shell that can only moan and whimper, completely unaware of its own death. And if the protagonists challenge this fate, [[spoiler:Nyx Avatar]] Nyx Avatar warns that the protagonists will suffer an even more horrible fate, and ''then'' die. [[spoiler:And And in the end, Nyx proves to be unkillable even after you defeat her Avatar, and The Fall is only averted after the protagonist sacrifices himself to prove that it isn't the time for her to end humanity yet. She ''will'' come back, if humanity's mind calls her again]].
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** It's worse than that still. Nyx [[spoiler: isn't even malicious or capable of causing The Fall on her own. Instead she's meant to descend from the heavens and join with Erebus, ''the manifestation of humanity's collective desire to die'' to bring about The Fall. Death doesn't ''think'' humanity wishes for the end of the world, we ''do''. We want it so much that we unconsciously created a creature from the depths of the Collective Unconscious to ''do just that.'']]
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* Later when [[spoiler:Nyx's Nyx's true form is revealed]], revealed, people [[spoiler: who believed in the apocalyptic rumours that Takaya and Jin were spreading throughout Port Island]] Island start randomly exploding into shadows in ecstasy!



* The cutscene you see after you defeat "???" in The Answer. Enjoy the sight of someone dissolving, one layer of flesh at a time; starting off by giving you a good eyeful of [[spoiler: the protagonist]]'s blood-red, ''skinless'', ''eyeless'' face.
* [[SlasherSmile Not]] [[RedEyesTakeWarning to]] [[EldritchAbomination mention]] the [[FinalBoss final boss]] of The Answer, Erebus! Not helping matters is its true nature, [[spoiler:similar to [[EldritchAbomination Nyarlathotep]] in the previous games, this thing ''isn't'' a Shadow, but a being born from the Collective Unconscious. Erebus represents humanity's unconscious desire to die, and it's unison with Nyx is what would cause The Fall should the Great Seal ever falter. Think about that for a second. We, ''all of humanity'', actually desire death to come]].
** And then there's the fact that the party defeating it [[spoiler: achieves nothing but getting it off their backs. Erebus will never ''ever'' stop reviving until it's source in the Collective Unconscious fades, and that would mean that all of humanity would need to stop fearing and desiring death.]]

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* The cutscene you see after you defeat "???" in The Answer. Enjoy the sight of someone dissolving, one layer of flesh at a time; starting off by giving you a good eyeful of [[spoiler: the protagonist]]'s protagonist's blood-red, ''skinless'', ''eyeless'' face.
* [[SlasherSmile Not]] [[RedEyesTakeWarning to]] [[EldritchAbomination mention]] Not to mention the [[FinalBoss final boss]] FinalBoss of The Answer, Erebus! Not helping matters is its true nature, [[spoiler:similar similar to [[EldritchAbomination Nyarlathotep]] in the previous games, this thing ''isn't'' a Shadow, but a being born from the Collective Unconscious. Erebus represents humanity's unconscious desire to die, and it's unison with Nyx is what would cause The Fall should the Great Seal ever falter. Think about that for a second. We, ''all of humanity'', actually desire death to come]].
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come. And then there's the fact that the party defeating it [[spoiler: achieves nothing but getting it off their backs. Erebus will never ''ever'' stop reviving until it's source in the Collective Unconscious fades, and that would mean that all of humanity would need to stop fearing and desiring death.]]


* The cutscene you see after you defeat "???" in The Answer. Enjoy the sight of someone dissolving, one layer of flesh at a time; starting off by giving you a good eyeful of [[spoiler: Minato]]'s blood-red, ''skinless'', ''eyeless'' face.

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* The cutscene you see after you defeat "???" in The Answer. Enjoy the sight of someone dissolving, one layer of flesh at a time; starting off by giving you a good eyeful of [[spoiler: Minato]]'s the protagonist]]'s blood-red, ''skinless'', ''eyeless'' face.


** The mere idea of summoning personas via ''shooting yourself in the head''. The Evokers may not function as real guns (though it should be noted the Japanese version explains that they ''are'' refurbished models of the actual thing), but summoning '''still''' involves pointing a weapon (or something that looks like one) to your head and pulling the trigger. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg06RvVzzdM No wonder Yukari was scared out of her mind, and the protagonist didn't exactly look too pleased when he did it either.]]
** Worth noting is that most of the characters who use Evokers put them to their temples, presumably to avoid having to look down the barrel of something that closely resembles a pistol. The only exceptions are Yukari, who points hers between her eyes, Akihiko, who puts it up to his forehead... and [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior Ken]], who hunches over and places it directly onto his face. Something is ''seriously'' wrong with that kid.
** It should be noted that Ken doesn't point it at his face, he points it at his ''chest''
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJSldnQE_z4 The movie's rendition of this scene]] isn't exactly much better...


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* The mere idea of summoning personas via ''shooting yourself in the head''. The Evokers may not function as real guns (though it should be noted the Japanese version explains that they ''are'' refurbished models of the actual thing), but summoning '''still''' involves pointing a weapon (or something that looks like one) to your head and pulling the trigger. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg06RvVzzdM No wonder Yukari was scared out of her mind]], and the protagonist didn't exactly look too pleased when he did it either.
** Worth noting is that most of the characters who use Evokers put them to their temples, presumably to avoid having to look down the barrel of something that closely resembles a pistol. The only exceptions are Yukari, who points hers between her eyes, Akihiko, who puts it up to his forehead... and [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior Ken]], who hunches over and places it directly onto his face. Something is ''seriously'' wrong with that kid.
** It should be noted that Ken doesn't point it at his face, he points it at his ''chest''
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJSldnQE_z4 The movie's rendition of this scene]] isn't exactly much better...

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** It should be noted that Ken doesn't point it at his face, he points it at his ''chest''


** It's worse than that still. Nyx [[spoiler: isn't even malicious or capable of causing The Fall on her own. Instead she's meant to descend from the heavens and join with Erebus, ''the manifestation of humanity's collective desire to die'' to bring about The Fall. Death doesn't ''think'' humanity wishes for the end of the world, we ''do''. We want it so much that we unconsciously created a creature from the depths of the Collective Consciousness to ''do just that.'']]

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** It's worse than that still. Nyx [[spoiler: isn't even malicious or capable of causing The Fall on her own. Instead she's meant to descend from the heavens and join with Erebus, ''the manifestation of humanity's collective desire to die'' to bring about The Fall. Death doesn't ''think'' humanity wishes for the end of the world, we ''do''. We want it so much that we unconsciously created a creature from the depths of the Collective Consciousness Unconscious to ''do just that.'']]


** It's worse than that still. Nyx [[spoiler: isn't even malicious or capable of causing The Fall on her own. Instead she's meant to descend from the heavens and join with Erebus, ''the manifestation of humanity's collective desire to die'' to bring about The Fall. Death doesn't ''think'' humanity wishes for the end of the world, we ''do''.]]

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** It's worse than that still. Nyx [[spoiler: isn't even malicious or capable of causing The Fall on her own. Instead she's meant to descend from the heavens and join with Erebus, ''the manifestation of humanity's collective desire to die'' to bring about The Fall. Death doesn't ''think'' humanity wishes for the end of the world, we ''do''.]] We want it so much that we unconsciously created a creature from the depths of the Collective Consciousness to ''do just that.'']]


** It's worse than that still. Nyx [[spoiler: isn't even malicious or capable of causing The Fall on her own. Instead she's meant to descend from the heavens and join with Erebus, ''the manifestation of humanity's collective desire to die'' to bring about The Fall. Death doesn't ''think'' humanity wishes for the end of the world, we ''do''.]]



* [[SlasherSmile Not]] [[RedEyesTakeWarning to]] [[EldritchAbomination mention]] the [[FinalBoss final boss]] of The Answer! Not helping matters is its true nature, [[spoiler:similar to [[EldritchAbomination Nyarlathotep]] in the previous games, this thing is coming from the Collective Unconscious, as humanity's unconscious desire to die. Think about that for a second. We, ''all of humanity'', actually desire death to come]].

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* [[SlasherSmile Not]] [[RedEyesTakeWarning to]] [[EldritchAbomination mention]] the [[FinalBoss final boss]] of The Answer! Answer, Erebus! Not helping matters is its true nature, [[spoiler:similar to [[EldritchAbomination Nyarlathotep]] in the previous games, this thing is coming ''isn't'' a Shadow, but a being born from the Collective Unconscious, as Unconscious. Erebus represents humanity's unconscious desire to die.die, and it's unison with Nyx is what would cause The Fall should the Great Seal ever falter. Think about that for a second. We, ''all of humanity'', actually desire death to come]].come]].
** And then there's the fact that the party defeating it [[spoiler: achieves nothing but getting it off their backs. Erebus will never ''ever'' stop reviving until it's source in the Collective Unconscious fades, and that would mean that all of humanity would need to stop fearing and desiring death.]]


** Worth noting is that most of the characters who use Evokers put them to their temples, presumably to avoid having to look down the barrel of something that closely resembles a pistol. The only exceptions are Yukari, who tucks hers under her chin, Akihiko, who puts it up to his forehead... and [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior Ken]], who tilts his up towards his ''face''. Something is ''seriously'' wrong with that kid.

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** Worth noting is that most of the characters who use Evokers put them to their temples, presumably to avoid having to look down the barrel of something that closely resembles a pistol. The only exceptions are Yukari, who tucks points hers under between her chin, eyes, Akihiko, who puts it up to his forehead... and [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior Ken]], who tilts hunches over and places it directly onto his up towards his ''face''.face. Something is ''seriously'' wrong with that kid.

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* The Hanged Man Arcana Shadow is depicted as a [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/d/df/XII.png/revision/latest?cb=20110731173326 large human-shaped blob of black mass attached to a floating cross-like mechanism]]. Notice how it is attached to the thing that makes it float? Its skin is nailed and hooked, with the stretching of the "flesh" visible to the audience. What's worse is that its idle animation will sometimes involve stretching the hooked flesh ''further'' before returning to its default pose...


* The coffins contain people who are lucky enough to be spared the horrors of the Dark Hour and thus are immune to its effects. The ones who ''don't'' turn into coffins experience the Dark Hour and, unless they can summon Personas, tend to get consumed horrifyingly by Shadows in short order.

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* The coffins contain people who are lucky enough to be spared the horrors of from experiencing the Dark Hour and thus are immune to its effects. The ones who ''don't'' turn into coffins experience the Dark Hour and, unless they can summon Personas, tend to get consumed horrifyingly by Shadows in short order.


** Those coffins, by the way? They contain people who are lucky enough to be spared the horrors of the Dark Hour and thus are immune to its effects. The ones who ''don't'' turn into coffins experience the Dark Hour and, unless they can summon Personas, tend to get consumed horrifyingly by Shadows in short order.


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* The coffins contain people who are lucky enough to be spared the horrors of the Dark Hour and thus are immune to its effects. The ones who ''don't'' turn into coffins experience the Dark Hour and, unless they can summon Personas, tend to get consumed horrifyingly by Shadows in short order.

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