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* Eddie's "DRAKE! STOP!" sounds less like he's in pain and more like a little kid telling his BigBrotherBully to stop giving him a wedgie.

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** What makes the freakout even more narmful is that Eddie's screams are different screams playing on top of each other.

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** What makes the freakout even more narmful is that Eddie's screams are different screams playing on top of each other. [[NeverTrustATrailer The actual film lacks this strange effect.]]


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** [[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants "My leg!"]]
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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it's safe to assume that this movie has its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]]. Naturally, it all falls into NarmCharm for some.

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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it's safe to assume that this movie has its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]]. A lot of these have even become [[MemeticMutation memes]]. Naturally, it all falls into NarmCharm for some.



-->'''Riot''': Venom...'''''Get''''' ''in the'' '''''rocket!'''''
-->'''Venom''': '''''[[BigNo No!]]''''' We won't let you ''destroy'' this ''world!''
-->'''Riot''': Then '''''die!'''''
* Towards the end of the film, it's revealed that [[spoiler: Venom used to be something of a loser on his home planet, like Eddie]]. ''This'' is his entire reason for wanting to save the Earth.

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-->'''Riot''': Venom...'''''Get''''' ''in the'' '''''rocket!'''''
-->'''Venom''':
'''''rocket!'''''\\
'''Venom''':
'''''[[BigNo No!]]''''' We won't let you ''destroy'' this ''world!''
-->'''Riot''':
''world!''\\
'''Riot''':
Then '''''die!'''''
* Towards the end of the film, it's revealed that [[spoiler: Venom used to be something of a loser on his home planet, like Eddie]]. ''This'' ''[[AssPull This]]'' is his entire reason for wanting to save the Earth.



* Drake having bonded with Riot is treated as a huge shocking twist going into the final battle... except the audience was already well aware of it and saw the whole process. It feels very much like a consequence of ExecutiveMeddling to give Riot more screentime.
* Right after Eddie is separated from the symbiote, a rather obvious ADR overdub replaces the intended "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck you]]" with the much less vicious "we're done".

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* Drake having bonded with Riot is treated as a huge shocking twist going into the final battle... except for the fact that the audience was already well aware of it and saw the whole process. It feels very much like a consequence of ExecutiveMeddling to give Riot more screentime.
* Right after Eddie is separated from the symbiote, a rather obvious [[SpecialEffectFailure obvious]] ADR overdub replaces the intended "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck you]]" with the much less vicious "we're done".

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* Right after Eddie is separated from the symbiote, a rather obvious ADR overdub replaces the intended "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck you]]" with the much less vicious "we're done".
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* After Venom heals Eddie's broken legs, he flatly states "My legs! They were broken...and now they're not broken..."
* "HOSPITAL!!!! (extremely long pause) Now!"

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* After Venom heals Eddie's broken legs, he flatly [[DullSurprise flatly]] states "My legs! They were broken...broken... and now they're not broken..."
* "HOSPITAL!!!! (extremely ''(extremely long pause) pause)'' Now!"
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* The JumpScare (on both sides of the fourth wall) where Venom suddenly shouts Eddie's name as he brushed his teeth would have been ''much'' more scary if not for the fact that the latter ScreamsLikeALittleGirl.
* Remember how creepy and awesome that shot from the second trailer of the symbiote forming around Eddie's face in order to eat a guy was? In the third trailer, the potential NightmareFuel of that moment is significantly [[NightmareRetardant undercut]] by Venom ''[[LecherousLicking slobbering all over the man's face]]'' with its tongue in an [[LargeHam amusingly over-the-top manner]]. One is reminded of the scene with [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick licking the yellow popsicle]]. Or perhaps [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure "This is the taste of a liar"...]]

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* The JumpScare (on both sides of the fourth wall) where Venom suddenly shouts Eddie's name as he brushed his teeth would have been ''much'' more scary if not for the fact that the latter ScreamsLikeALittleGirl.
ScreamsLikeALittleGirl. There's also the fact that he ''somehow'' throws himself backwards so hard that he crashes into the bathroom wall.
* Remember how creepy and awesome that shot from the second trailer of the symbiote forming around Eddie's face in order to eat a guy was? In the third trailer, the potential NightmareFuel of that moment is significantly [[NightmareRetardant undercut]] by Venom ''[[LecherousLicking slobbering all over the man's face]]'' with its tongue in an [[LargeHam amusingly over-the-top manner]]. One is reminded of the scene with [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick licking the yellow popsicle]]. Or popsicle]], or perhaps [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure "This is the taste of a liar"...]]



* HOSPITAL!!!! (extremely long pause) Now!
* Eddie [[spoiler:and Anne]] quite casually discussing [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]] as one of the symbiote's favorite activities. Something that would probably sincerely shock and disgust the average person and likely require therapy, and it's bandied about like it's a pretty normal occurrence.

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* HOSPITAL!!!! "HOSPITAL!!!! (extremely long pause) Now!
Now!"
* Eddie [[spoiler:and Anne]] quite casually discussing [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]] as one of the symbiote's favorite activities. Something It's something that would probably sincerely shock and disgust the average person and likely require therapy, and yet [[DissonantSerenity it's bandied about like it's a pretty normal occurrence.occurrence]].



* [[spoiler:Kasady promising that there will be "carnage" after he gets out]] is so on-the-nose that it feels like it's straight out of a parody.

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* [[spoiler:Kasady promising that there will be "carnage" [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} "carnage"]] after he gets out]] is so on-the-nose [[{{Anvilicious}} on-the-nose]] that it feels like it's straight out of a parody.



* Towards the end of the film, it's revealed that [[spoiler: Venom used to be something of a loser on his home planet, like Eddie]]. This is his entire reason for wanting to save Earth.
* Despite angrily forcing Eddie to spit out cooked meats because they're no longer living animals, the symbiote develops a taste for ''tater tots'', and it practically demands Eddie buy some during a conversation in the ending. The director [[https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/why-the-ultimate-venom-is-obsessed-with-tater-tots-according-to-director-ruben-fleischer admitted in an interview]] that the writers just thought it was funny and put it in the script. It unfortunately invites comparisons to a similar tots-focused scene in ''Film/NapoleonDynamite'' as a result.

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* Towards the end of the film, it's revealed that [[spoiler: Venom used to be something of a loser on his home planet, like Eddie]]. This ''This'' is his entire reason for wanting to save the Earth.
* Despite angrily forcing Eddie to spit out cooked meats because they're no longer living animals, the symbiote develops a taste for ''tater tots'', and it practically demands that Eddie buy some during a conversation in the ending. The director [[https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/why-the-ultimate-venom-is-obsessed-with-tater-tots-according-to-director-ruben-fleischer admitted in an interview]] that the writers just thought it was funny and put it in the script. It unfortunately invites comparisons to a similar tots-focused scene in ''Film/NapoleonDynamite'' as a result.



* Even the cross-promotions haven't eased up on the Narm, as a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DA9-ROw-PI crossover ad]] with ESPN Sportscenter showed. While the ad is obviously supposed to be comedic in nature, it's hard not to be distracted both by the [[ConspicuousCGI low-quality CGI]] and how [[SpecialEffectsFailure shriekingly obvious]] it is that Tom Hardy filmed this on a separate set and was not actually in the same room with anyone else.
* One of the taglines is simply “See the movie.” It’s honestly like the marketing guys just categorically refused to put any thought into it at all.

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* Even the cross-promotions haven't eased up on the Narm, {{Narm}}, as a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DA9-ROw-PI crossover ad]] with ESPN Sportscenter showed. While the ad is obviously supposed to be comedic in nature, it's hard not to be distracted both by the [[ConspicuousCGI low-quality CGI]] and how [[SpecialEffectsFailure shriekingly obvious]] it is that Tom Hardy filmed this on a separate set and was not actually in the same room with anyone else.
* One of the taglines is simply “See the movie.” It’s honestly like the marketing guys just categorically refused to put any thought into it making the tagline subtle or creative in any way at all.
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!! Examples of Narm in ''Venom'' include:



-->[[AC:"[=NYYYaAAAAaaaaaaAAaaaaAAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAaaAAAARGH=]!"]]
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* The JumpScare (on both sides of the fourth wall) where Venom suddenly shouts Eddie's name as he brushed his teeth would have been ''much'' more scary if not for the fact that the latter ScreamsLikeALittleGirl.
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* Even the cross-promotions haven't eased up on this, as a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DA9-ROw-PI crossover ad]] with ESPN Sportscenter showed. While the ad is obviously supposed to be comedic in nature, it's hard not to be distracted both by the [[ConspicuousCGI low-quality CGI]] and how [[SpecialEffectsFailure shriekingly obvious]] it is that Tom Hardy filmed this on a separate set and was not actually in the same room with anyone else.

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* Even the cross-promotions haven't eased up on this, the Narm, as a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DA9-ROw-PI crossover ad]] with ESPN Sportscenter showed. While the ad is obviously supposed to be comedic in nature, it's hard not to be distracted both by the [[ConspicuousCGI low-quality CGI]] and how [[SpecialEffectsFailure shriekingly obvious]] it is that Tom Hardy filmed this on a separate set and was not actually in the same room with anyone else.

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Not "unintentionally funny".


* There's also [[ClicheStorm the generic-ness of the entire monologue in the teaser]] that could have been applied to any other movie, along with one of its main focuses being shots of Tom Hardy just walking by himself [[MundaneMadeAwesome as if it's a big deal]].



** Eddie trying to "journalism" his way into a confrontation with the BigBad in public comes across as a WhatAnIdiot moment instead of giving off the impression that the character is an IntrepidReporter.



** The official trailer using ''Redshift'' by Audiomachine (a song already severely overused in fan-trailers) barely ''a month'' after Marvel Studios had released the second trailer for ''Infinity War'', which used the ''exact same song'' (although they at least had the decency to edit it to fit the Avengers theme.) To make things worse, the trailer was released only several days before the world-wide release of ''Infinity War'', meaning a lot of people were checking out both trailers and could immediately notice the similarities.



* The CGI around Eddie's face whenever the symbiote hears a high frequency just always looks...off.
* The animation of the yellow symbiote just looks like mozzerella cheese come to life.

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* The CGI around Eddie's face whenever the symbiote hears a high frequency just always looks...off.
* The animation of the yellow symbiote just looks like mozzerella mozzarella cheese come to life.



* The movie treats "Venom" and "Riot" as the symbiotes' real names, rather than aliases or codenames as they are in the comics. Apparently, symbiote names are just [[DarkAgeOfSupernames badass-sounding]] [[FridgeLogic Earth words]].



* Drake having bonded with Riot is treated as a huge shocking twist going into the final battle...except the audience was already well aware of it and saw the whole process. It feels very much like a consequence of ExecutiveMeddling to give Riot more screen time.

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* Drake having bonded with Riot is treated as a huge shocking twist going into the final battle... except the audience was already well aware of it and saw the whole process. It feels very much like a consequence of ExecutiveMeddling to give Riot more screen time.screentime.

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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it's safe to assume that this movie has its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]].

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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it's safe to assume that this movie has its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]]. Naturally, it all falls into NarmCharm for some.



* A good portion of the trailers' Narm is ''[[OlderThanTheyThink straight out of the comics]]'', which raises the question why the movie doesn't seem to attempt to be more {{pragmatic|adaptation}}. Naturally, it falls into NarmCharm for some.
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* Any menace from [[spoiler: Cletus Kasady]] is completely undercut by Woody Harrelson's truly ridiculous wig. A common comparison is that it causes him to look like a live-action [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Sideshow Bob]].

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* Any menace from [[spoiler: Cletus Kasady]] is completely undercut by Woody Harrelson's truly ridiculous wig. A common comparison is that it causes him to look like a live-action [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Sideshow Bob]].Bob]], or a make-up-less [[Film/It2017 Pennywise]].

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* Remember how creepy and awesome that shot from the second trailer of the symbiote forming around Eddie's face in order to eat a guy was? In the third trailer, the potential NightmareFuel of that moment is significantly [[NightmareRetardant undercut]] by Venom ''[[LecherousLicking slobbering all over the man's face]]'' with its tongue in an [[LargeHam amusingly over-the-top manner]]. One is reminded of the scene with [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick licking the yellow popsicle]].

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* Remember how creepy and awesome that shot from the second trailer of the symbiote forming around Eddie's face in order to eat a guy was? In the third trailer, the potential NightmareFuel of that moment is significantly [[NightmareRetardant undercut]] by Venom ''[[LecherousLicking slobbering all over the man's face]]'' with its tongue in an [[LargeHam amusingly over-the-top manner]]. One is reminded of the scene with [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick licking the yellow popsicle]]. Or perhaps [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure "This is the taste of a liar"...]]


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* The animation of the yellow symbiote just looks like mozzerella cheese come to life.
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Word Cruft. This is a Narm page not a discussion page.


** Slightly justified, in that symbiotes in this universe appear to ''prefer'' live meals, or like in Venom's case they're cooperating with their host to live in a normal society.
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** Slightly justified, in that symbiotes in this universe appear to ''prefer'' live meals, or like in Venom's case they're cooperating with their host to live in a normal society.
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* Any menace from [[spoiler: Cletus Kasady]] is completely undercut by Woody Harrelson's truly ridiculous wig.

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* Any menace from [[spoiler: Cletus Kasady]] is completely undercut by Woody Harrelson's truly ridiculous wig. A common comparison is that it causes him to look like a live-action [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Sideshow Bob]].
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** The shot of Eddie crashing straight through a half-fallen tree in the forest that he could just as easily have ''ducked'' under comes across as more comedic than cool, as if they just needed an additional gratuitous shot of ''something'' breaking. Especially if your mind goes to Victor from ''Film/WetHotAmericanSummer'' and his inexplicable refusal to jump over anything. It really does not help that the evil bad-guy vehicle chasing him looks like a slightly modified ''golf cart''.

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** The shot of Eddie crashing straight through a half-fallen tree in the forest that he could just as easily have ''ducked'' under comes across as more comedic than cool, as if they just needed an additional gratuitous shot of ''something'' breaking. Especially if your mind goes to Victor from ''Film/WetHotAmericanSummer'' and his inexplicable refusal to jump over anything. It really does not help that the evil bad-guy vehicle chasing him looks like a slightly modified ''golf cart''. The context for this one in the movie is that Venom is taking control of his body and forcing him to blindly flee through the woods to escape the Life Foundation.
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* Drake having bonded with Riot is treated as a huge shocking twist going into the final battle...except the audience was already well aware of it and saw the whole process. It feels very much like a consequence of ExecutiveMeddling to give Riot more screen time.
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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it can be safely expected that this movie will has its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]].

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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it can be safely expected it's safe to assume that this movie will has its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]].
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* Despite angrily forcing Eddie to spit out cooked meats because they're no longer living animals, the symbiote develops a taste for ''tater tots'', and it practically demands Eddie buy some during a conversation in the ending. The director [[https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/why-the-ultimate-venom-is-obsessed-with-tater-tots-according-to-director-ruben-fleischer admitted in an interview]] that the writers just thought it was funny and put it in the script. It unfortunately invites comparisons to a similar tots-focused scene in ''Film/NapoleonDynamite'' as a result.
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* The movie treats "Venom" and "Riot" as the symbiotes' real names, rather than aliases or codenames as they are in the comics. Apparently, symbiote names are just [[DarkAgeOfSupernames badass-sounding earth words]].

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* The movie treats "Venom" and "Riot" as the symbiotes' real names, rather than aliases or codenames as they are in the comics. Apparently, symbiote names are just [[DarkAgeOfSupernames badass-sounding earth badass-sounding]] [[FridgeLogic Earth words]].

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-->'''Venom''': '''''[[BigNo No!]]''''' We won't let you ''destroy'' this ''world''!

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-->'''Venom''': '''''[[BigNo No!]]''''' We won't let you ''destroy'' this ''world''!''world!''


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* Towards the end of the film, it's revealed that [[spoiler: Venom used to be something of a loser on his home planet, like Eddie]]. This is his entire reason for wanting to save Earth.

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* The final trade of words between Venom and Riot before the final battle is nothing but total HamToHamCombat - that and the two symbiotes happen to be {{Perpetual Smiler}}s, which just gives off the feeling that they don't really give ''that'' much of a damn about their goals.
-->'''Riot''': Venom...'''''Get''''' ''in the'' '''''rocket!'''''
-->'''Venom''': '''''[[BigNo No!]]''''' We won't let you ''destroy'' this ''world''!
-->'''Riot''': Then '''''die!'''''
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It assimilated through his chest.


* The leaked trailer revealed some pretty terrible lines (“The guy you work for is an evil person.”). Tom Hardy's ''[[OohMeAccentsSlipping horrible]]'' [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent New York...ish(?)]] accent isn't doing the delivery any favors either. And it ''really'' does not help that his [[InopportuneVoiceCracking voice cracks]] on the reading of "evil person".

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* The leaked trailer revealed some pretty terrible lines (“The guy you work for is an evil person.”). Tom Hardy's ''[[OohMeAccentsSlipping horrible]]'' [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent New York...ish(?)]] accent isn't doing the delivery any favors either. And it ''really'' does not help that his [[InopportuneVoiceCracking voice cracks]] on the reading of "evil person". Thankfully, that line is not in the film proper.



** How Jenny Slate's character pronounces "symbiote" [[note]]"symb-eye-ote" instead of the more traditional "sym-bee-ote"[[/note]]. Plus, her giving firm, equal stress to all three syllables like she's speaking some foreign language.

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** How Jenny Slate's character pronounces "symbiote" [[note]]"symb-eye-ote" instead of the more traditional "sym-bee-ote"[[/note]]. Plus, her giving firm, equal stress to all three syllables like she's speaking some foreign language. Luckily, this was cut from the theatrical release.



** The guy who Carlton Drake subjects to OrificeInvasion in the third trailer would have been disturbing, [[NightmareRetardant if not for the victim's]] [[DullSurprise bland expression]] and where the symbiote appears to [[AssShove enter his body through]]...

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** The guy who Carlton Drake subjects to OrificeInvasion in the third trailer would have been disturbing, [[NightmareRetardant if not for the victim's]] [[DullSurprise bland expression]] and where the symbiote appears to [[AssShove enter his body through]]...expression]].
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* [[spoiler:Kasady promising that there will be "carnage" after he gets out]] is so on-the-nose that it feels like it's straight out of parody.

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* [[spoiler:Kasady promising that there will be "carnage" after he gets out]] is so on-the-nose that it feels like it's straight out of a parody.
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* [[spoiler:Kasady promising that there will be "carnage" after he gets out]] is so on-the-nose that it feels like it's straight out of parody.
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* HOSPITAL!!!! (extremely long pause) Now!
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Word Cruft. Conservation masquerading as an example. This isn't a discussion page.


** Eddie trying to "journalism" his way into a confrontation with the BigBad in public comes across as a WhatAnIdiot moment instead of giving off the impression that the character is an IntrepidReporter. Those familiar with the comics however might remember that Eddie was not as great a journalist as he often made himself out to be and consider his sledgehammer approach to journalism to be perfectly in-character.

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** Eddie trying to "journalism" his way into a confrontation with the BigBad in public comes across as a WhatAnIdiot moment instead of giving off the impression that the character is an IntrepidReporter. Those familiar with the comics however might remember that Eddie was not as great a journalist as he often made himself out to be and consider his sledgehammer approach to journalism to be perfectly in-character.
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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it can be safely expected that this movie will have its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]].

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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it can be safely expected that this movie will have has its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]].
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* Eddie [[spoiler:and Anne]] quite casually discussing [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]] as one of the symbiote's favorite activities. Something that would probably sincerely shock and disgust the average person and likely require therapy, and it's bandied about a pretty normal occurence.

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* Eddie [[spoiler:and Anne]] quite casually discussing [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]] as one of the symbiote's favorite activities. Something that would probably sincerely shock and disgust the average person and likely require therapy, and it's bandied about like it's a pretty normal occurence.occurrence.

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