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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it's safe to assume that this movie has its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]]. A lot of these have even become [[MemeticMutation memes]]. Naturally, it all falls into NarmCharm for some.

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Given that the character of ComicBook/{{Venom}} is considered to be one of ''the'' supervillains/[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] that ushered in UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, MediaNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, and that this movie is an adaptation of a peak-[[TheNineties Nineties]] storyline, it's safe to assume that this movie has its fair share of [[{{Pun}} Ve-narm]]. A lot of these have even become [[MemeticMutation memes]]. Naturally, it all falls into NarmCharm for some.
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The thing about Venom biting off heads is a general example and a regular flaw, not a funny thing. The last bullet is a non-funny Fridge Logic flaw.


* The numerous times Venom bites people's heads off comes off as less terrifying due to the fact there is no blood.



* Eddie getting [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]] by Carlton Drake in Riot mode. Eddie is a burly guy, as played by Creator/TomHardy, even without the symbiote, and is implied to workout to keep himself in shape (a dumbbell can be seen in his apartment), whereas Drake is played by the lean Creator/RizAhmed. While in the [[Film/VenomLetThereBeCarnage sequel]] Eddie gets beaten up by the significantly leaner Cletus Kasady too, it is at least justified there because Kasady is a violent AxCrazy serial killer. Carlton Drake is… an industrialist. While he could’ve had experience in some form of martial arts, it is never stated he does and he proceeds to easily kick the much bigger and physically imposing Eddie’s butt, with little to no effort making it chuckleworthy.
** This is thankfully AvertedTrope when the two fight without their symbiotes. Eddie kicks Drake's scrawny ass.

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* Eddie getting [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]] by Carlton Drake. Eddie is a burly guy, as played by Creator/TomHardy, even without the symbiote, and is implied to workout to keep himself in shape (a dumbbell can be seen in his apartment), whereas Drake is played by the lean Creator/RizAhmed. While in the [[Film/VenomLetThereBeCarnage sequel]] Eddie gets beaten up by the significantly leaner Cletus Kasady too, it is at least justified there because Kasady is a violent AxCrazy serial killer. Carlton Drake is… an industrialist. While he could’ve had experience in some form of martial arts, it is never stated he does and he proceeds to easily kick the much bigger and physically imposing Eddie’s butt, with little to no effort making it chuckleworthy.

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* Eddie getting [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]] by Carlton Drake.Drake in Riot mode. Eddie is a burly guy, as played by Creator/TomHardy, even without the symbiote, and is implied to workout to keep himself in shape (a dumbbell can be seen in his apartment), whereas Drake is played by the lean Creator/RizAhmed. While in the [[Film/VenomLetThereBeCarnage sequel]] Eddie gets beaten up by the significantly leaner Cletus Kasady too, it is at least justified there because Kasady is a violent AxCrazy serial killer. Carlton Drake is… an industrialist. While he could’ve had experience in some form of martial arts, it is never stated he does and he proceeds to easily kick the much bigger and physically imposing Eddie’s butt, with little to no effort making it chuckleworthy.chuckleworthy.
** This is thankfully AvertedTrope when the two fight without their symbiotes. Eddie kicks Drake's scrawny ass.
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* The numerous times Venom bites people's heads off comes off as less terrifying due to the fact there is no blood.
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Removing natter and a general example.


** [[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants "My leg!"]]



* Dr. Dora Skirth's last name, since every single time it just sounds like she's being called "Dr. Skirt," like everyone's being condescendingly sexist.
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* Eddie getting [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]] by Carlton Drake. Eddie is a burly guy, as played by Creator/TomHardy, even without the symbiote, and is implied to workout to keep himself in shape (a dumbbell can be seen in his apartment), whereas Drake is played by the lean Creator/RizAhmed. While in the [[Film/VenomLetThereBeCarnage sequel]] Eddie gets beaten up by the significantly leaner Cletus Kasady too, it is at least justified there because Kasady is a violent AxCrazy serial killer. Carlton Drake is… an industrialist. While he could’ve had experience in some form of martial arts, it is never stated he does and he proceeds to easily kick the much bigger and physically imposing Eddie’s butt, with little to no effort making it chuckleworthy.
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* Remember how creepy and awesome that shot from the second trailer of the symbiote forming around Eddie's face in order to eat a guy was? In the third trailer, the potential NightmareFuel of that moment is significantly [[NightmareRetardant undercut]] by Venom ''[[LecherousLicking slobbering all over the man's face]]'' with its tongue in an [[LargeHam amusingly over-the-top manner]]. One is reminded of the scene with [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick licking the yellow popsicle]], or perhaps [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure "This is the taste of a liar"...]]

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* Remember how creepy and awesome that shot from the second trailer of the symbiote forming around Eddie's face in order to eat a guy was? In the third trailer, the potential NightmareFuel of that moment is significantly [[NightmareRetardant undercut]] by Venom ''[[LecherousLicking slobbering all over the man's face]]'' with its tongue in an [[LargeHam amusingly over-the-top manner]]. One is reminded of the scene with [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants Patrick licking the yellow popsicle]], or perhaps [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind "This is the taste of a liar"...]]liar, Giorno Giovanna!"]]
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'''Venom:''' '''''[[BigNo No!]]''''' We won't let you ''destroy'' this ''world!''\\

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'''Venom:''' '''''[[BigNo '''''[[BluntNo No!]]''''' We won't let you ''destroy'' this ''world!''\\
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-->'''Riot:''' Venom... '''''Get''''' ''in the'' '''''rocket!'''''\\

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-->'''Riot:''' -->[[AC:'''Riot:''' Venom... '''''Get''''' ''in the'' '''''rocket!'''''\\



'''Riot:''' Then '''''die!'''''

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'''Riot:''' Then '''''die!''''''''''die!''''']]
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* The scene of Eddie freaking out on the medical table is presented as the teaser's MoneyMakingShot. It...doesn't quite work as intended, which isn't helped by it being sped up, making it look like a parody.

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* The scene of Eddie freaking out on the medical table is presented as the teaser's MoneyMakingShot. It... doesn't quite work as intended, which isn't helped by it being sped up, making it look like a parody.



* The leaked trailer revealed some pretty terrible lines ("The guy you work for is an evil person"). Creator/TomHardy's ''[[OohMeAccentsSlipping horrible]]'' [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent New York...ish(?)]] accent isn't doing the delivery any favors either. And it ''really'' does not help that his [[InopportuneVoiceCracking voice cracks]] on the reading of "evil person". Thankfully, that line is not in the film proper.

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* The leaked trailer revealed some pretty terrible lines ("The guy you work for is an evil person"). Creator/TomHardy's ''[[OohMeAccentsSlipping horrible]]'' [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent New York... ish(?)]] accent isn't doing the delivery any favors either. And it ''really'' does not help that his [[InopportuneVoiceCracking voice cracks]] on the reading of "evil person". Thankfully, that line is not in the film proper.



* Carlton Drake slowly uttering the line "Don't...silence her" just reeks of ColdHam. Keep in mind, he's telling this to a bunch of ''schoolchildren''.

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* Carlton Drake slowly uttering the line "Don't... silence her" just reeks of ColdHam. Keep in mind, he's telling this to a bunch of ''schoolchildren''.



--> '''Eddie:''' No, I am ''scared!'' And I need help.\\
'''Anne:''' HOSPITAL!!!! ''(extremely long pause)'' Now!

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--> '''Eddie:''' -->'''Eddie:''' No, I am ''scared!'' And I need help.\\
'''Anne:''' HOSPITAL!!!! ''(extremely ''[extremely long pause)'' pause]'' Now!



-->'''Riot''': Venom...'''''Get''''' ''in the'' '''''rocket!'''''\\
'''Venom''': '''''[[BigNo No!]]''''' We won't let you ''destroy'' this ''world!''\\
'''Riot''': Then '''''die!'''''

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-->'''Riot''': Venom...-->'''Riot:''' Venom... '''''Get''''' ''in the'' '''''rocket!'''''\\
'''Venom''': '''Venom:''' '''''[[BigNo No!]]''''' We won't let you ''destroy'' this ''world!''\\
'''Riot''': '''Riot:''' Then '''''die!'''''

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** Hardy's line reading of "You're not real, you are just in my head." sounds like he's suffering from ElmuhFuddSyndwome. At worst, he sounds like Creator/AdamSandler's signature {{Manchild}} babbling. However there's some speculation that, based on the context of the scene and Eddie's stumbling movements, he's actually drunk, or perhaps even overdosed on medication (considering he was seen taking a bunch of pills, thinking he's sick). That and it could be a case of SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, as it's unlikely anyone would keep the mental clarity to speak normally as an alien parasite is slowly bonding with their body.

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** Hardy's line reading of "You're not real, you are just in my head." sounds like he's suffering from ElmuhFuddSyndwome. At worst, he sounds like Creator/AdamSandler's signature {{Manchild}} babbling. However there's some speculation that, based on the context of the scene and Eddie's stumbling movements, he's actually drunk, or perhaps even overdosed on medication (considering he was seen taking a bunch of pills, thinking he's sick). That That, and it could be a case of SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, as it's unlikely anyone would keep the mental clarity to speak normally as an alien parasite is slowly bonding with their body.



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%%* "HOSPITAL!!!! ''(extremely long pause)'' Now!"

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%%Somebody please give context * When Anne encounters Eddie and Venom after their rampage across San Francisco, she tells Eddie that explains why this he is funny.
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sick and need to leave with her in the most awkward way possible. What she says barely even makes sense as a response to him in the first place.
--> '''Eddie:''' No, I am ''scared!'' And I need help.\\
'''Anne:''' HOSPITAL!!!!
''(extremely long pause)'' Now!"Now!
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* The scene of Eddie freaking out on the medical table is presented as the teaser's MoneyMakingShot. It... doesn't quite work as intended, which isn't helped by it being sped up, making it look like a parody.

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* The scene of Eddie freaking out on the medical table is presented as the teaser's MoneyMakingShot. It... doesn't quite work as intended, which isn't helped by it being sped up, making it look like a parody.



* The leaked trailer revealed some pretty terrible lines (“The guy you work for is an evil person.”). Tom Hardy's ''[[OohMeAccentsSlipping horrible]]'' [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent New York...ish(?)]] accent isn't doing the delivery any favors either. And it ''really'' does not help that his [[InopportuneVoiceCracking voice cracks]] on the reading of "evil person". Thankfully, that line is not in the film proper.
** Hardy's line reading of "You're not real, you are just in my head." sounds like he's suffering from ElmuhFuddSyndwome. At worst, he sounds like Creator/AdamSandler's signature ManChild babbling. However there's some speculation that, based on the context of the scene and Eddie's stumbling movements, he's actually drunk, or perhaps even overdosed on medication (considering he was seen taking a bunch of pills, thinking he's sick). That and it could be a case of SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, as it's unlikely anyone would keep the mental clarity to speak normally as an alien parasite is slowly bonding with their body.

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* The leaked trailer revealed some pretty terrible lines (“The ("The guy you work for is an evil person.”). Tom Hardy's person"). Creator/TomHardy's ''[[OohMeAccentsSlipping horrible]]'' [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent New York...ish(?)]] accent isn't doing the delivery any favors either. And it ''really'' does not help that his [[InopportuneVoiceCracking voice cracks]] on the reading of "evil person". Thankfully, that line is not in the film proper.
** Hardy's line reading of "You're not real, you are just in my head." sounds like he's suffering from ElmuhFuddSyndwome. At worst, he sounds like Creator/AdamSandler's signature ManChild {{Manchild}} babbling. However there's some speculation that, based on the context of the scene and Eddie's stumbling movements, he's actually drunk, or perhaps even overdosed on medication (considering he was seen taking a bunch of pills, thinking he's sick). That and it could be a case of SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, as it's unlikely anyone would keep the mental clarity to speak normally as an alien parasite is slowly bonding with their body.
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* Dr. Dora Skirth's last name, since every single time it just sounds like she's being called "Dr. Skirt," like everyone's being condescendingly sexist.

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* Any menace from [[spoiler: Cletus Kasady]] is completely undercut by Woody Harrelson's truly ridiculous wig. A common comparison is that it causes him to look like a live-action [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Sideshow Bob]], or a makeup-less [[Film/It2017 Pennywise]].

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* Any menace from [[spoiler: Cletus Kasady]] is completely undercut by Woody Harrelson's truly ridiculous wig. A common comparison is that it causes him to look like a live-action [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Sideshow Bob]], or a makeup-less [[Film/It2017 Pennywise]]. The crew of ''Film/VenomLetThereBeCarnage'' took notice and it's much less silly there.
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Doesn't say what's supposedly funny, it's just a snarky observation.


* Eddie [[spoiler:and Anne]] quite casually discussing [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]] as one of the symbiote's favorite activities. It's something that would probably sincerely shock and disgust the average person and likely require therapy, and yet [[DissonantSerenity it's bandied about like it's a pretty normal occurrence]].
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** Hardy's line reading of "You're not real, you are just in my head." sounds like he's suffering from ElmuhFuddSyndwome. At worst, he sounds like Creator/AdamSandler's signature ManChild babbling. However there's some speculation that, based on the context of the scene and Eddie's stumbling movements, he's actually drunk, or perhaps even overdosed on medication (considering he was seen taking a bunch of pills, thinking he's sick). That and it could be a case of RealityEnsues, as it's unlikely anyone would keep the mental clarity to speak normally as an alien parasite is slowly bonding with their body.

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** Hardy's line reading of "You're not real, you are just in my head." sounds like he's suffering from ElmuhFuddSyndwome. At worst, he sounds like Creator/AdamSandler's signature ManChild babbling. However there's some speculation that, based on the context of the scene and Eddie's stumbling movements, he's actually drunk, or perhaps even overdosed on medication (considering he was seen taking a bunch of pills, thinking he's sick). That and it could be a case of RealityEnsues, SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, as it's unlikely anyone would keep the mental clarity to speak normally as an alien parasite is slowly bonding with their body.
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Pure complaining; misuse. Not played for drama, etc.


* The symbiote's pronoun usage is wildly inconsistent throughout the movie, making it seem like the filmmakers knew about this aspect of the character, but didn't actually understand how it's supposed to work. In a few instances, the symbiote uses the traditional Venom "we/us" plural pronouns... when referring to just itself. The comic character uses plural pronouns to refer to Venom as the amalgamated being formed by the connection between the symbiote and its host (i.e. two beings in one, hence the "we" in "we are Venom"), and uses singular terms when referring to just one or the other. It makes no sense for the symbiote here to refer to itself as a singular entity as "we" when it uses "me/I" elsewhere for the exact same purpose. Again, the filmmakers clearly knew that Venom uses plural pronouns to refer to himself in the comics and other media, but not ''why'' he does that.
* The symbiotes all having [[DarkAgeOfSupernames ridiculously edgy names]] like "Venom" or "Riot". Especially since, in the comics, the symbiotes themselves are nameless, and names like "Venom" were coined by either the hosts or the media, and refer to the being formed by the connection between the symbiote and the host. The name "Venom" in particular came from Eddie saying that the symbiote felt like "toxic venom coursing through my veins". So, no, Venom is not the symbiote, the symbiote is a part of Venom.
* While some will try to defend lines like "turd in the wind" and "lungs, eyes, pancreas" on the basis that they [[OlderThanTheyThink were in the comics]] and bring a Dark Age feel to the movie, that doesn't change the widely held opinion that they are still badly-written lines from a widely-disliked period of comic history that sound absolutely cringeworthy being spoken aloud by real people. There's a reason the 90s was called the DARK Age, after all.
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The YMMV in... YMMV was kind of forgotten there.


* While some will try to defend lines like "turd in the wind" and "lungs, eyes, pancreas" on the basis that they [[OlderThanTheyThink were in the comics]] and bring a Dark Age feel to the movie, that doesn't change the fact that they are still badly-written lines from a widely-disliked period of comic history that sound absolutely cringeworthy being spoken aloud by real people. There's a reason the 90s was called the DARK Age, after all.

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* While some will try to defend lines like "turd in the wind" and "lungs, eyes, pancreas" on the basis that they [[OlderThanTheyThink were in the comics]] and bring a Dark Age feel to the movie, that doesn't change the fact widely held opinion that they are still badly-written lines from a widely-disliked period of comic history that sound absolutely cringeworthy being spoken aloud by real people. There's a reason the 90s was called the DARK Age, after all.
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* The [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Homer Simpson]] worthy scream that Eddie lets out when he sees Venom in the mirror.
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* While some will try to defend lines like "turd in the wind" and "lungs, eyes, pancreas" on the basis that they were in the comics and bring a Dark Age feel to the movie, that doesn't change the fact that they are still badly-written lines from a widely-disliked period of comic history that sound absolutely cringeworthy being spoken aloud by real people. There's a reason the 90s was called the DARK Age, after all.

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* While some will try to defend lines like "turd in the wind" and "lungs, eyes, pancreas" on the basis that they [[OlderThanTheyThink were in the comics comics]] and bring a Dark Age feel to the movie, that doesn't change the fact that they are still badly-written lines from a widely-disliked period of comic history that sound absolutely cringeworthy being spoken aloud by real people. There's a reason the 90s was called the DARK Age, after all.
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* The symbiote's pronoun usage is wildly inconsistent throughout the movie, making it seem like the filmmakers knew about this aspect of the character, but didn't actually understand how it's supposed to work. In a few instances, the symbiote uses the traditional Venom "we/us" plural pronouns... when referring to just itself. The comic character uses plural pronouns to refer to Venom as the amalgamated being formed by the connection between the symbiote and its host (i.e. two beings in one, hence the "we" in "we are Venom"), and uses singular terms when referring to just one or the other. It makes no sense for the symbiote here to refer to itself as a singular entity as "we" when it uses "me/I" elsewhere for the exact same purpose. Again, the filmmakers clearly knew that Venom uses plural pronouns to refer to himself in the comics and other media, but not ''why'' he does that.
* The symbiotes all having [[DarkAgeOfSupernames ridiculously edgy names]] like "Venom" or "Riot". Especially since, in the comics, the symbiotes themselves are nameless, and names like "Venom" were coined by either the hosts or the media, and refer to the being formed by the connection between the symbiote and the host. The name "Venom" in particular came from Eddie saying that the symbiote felt like "toxic venom coursing through my veins". So, no, Venom is not the symbiote, the symbiote is a part of Venom.
* While some will try to defend lines like "turd in the wind" and "lungs, eyes, pancreas" on the basis that they were in the comics and bring a Dark Age feel to the movie, that doesn't change the fact that they are still badly-written lines from a widely-disliked period of comic history that sound absolutely cringeworthy being spoken aloud by real people. There's a reason the 90s was called the DARK Age, after all.
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* Any menace from [[spoiler: Cletus Kasady]] is completely undercut by Woody Harrelson's truly ridiculous wig. A common comparison is that it causes him to look like a live-action [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Sideshow Bob]], or a make-up-less [[Film/It2017 Pennywise]].

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* Any menace from [[spoiler: Cletus Kasady]] is completely undercut by Woody Harrelson's truly ridiculous wig. A common comparison is that it causes him to look like a live-action [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Sideshow Bob]], or a make-up-less makeup-less [[Film/It2017 Pennywise]].
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* Carlton Drake slowly uttering the line "Don't...silence her" just reeks of ColdHam. Keep in mind, he's telling this to a bunch of ''schoolchildren''.
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Of all the misuse on the page, these two stand out since they're not "a dramatic scene that turns unintentionally humorous".



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* Even the cross-promotions haven't eased up on the {{Narm}}, as a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DA9-ROw-PI crossover ad]] with ESPN Sportscenter showed. While the ad is obviously supposed to be comedic in nature, it's hard not to be distracted both by the [[ConspicuousCGI low-quality CGI]] and how [[SpecialEffectsFailure shriekingly obvious]] it is that Tom Hardy filmed this on a separate set and was not actually in the same room with anyone else.
* One of the taglines is simply “See the movie.” It’s honestly like the marketing guys just categorically refused to put any thought into making the tagline subtle or creative in any way at all.

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** Movie trailers [[QuoteMine cutting quotes out of context to form a new sentence]] is nothing new, but the editing on the line "you will only hurt bad people" is particularly poor, and it's very easy to hear that the line has been cut together out of separate pieces of dialogue.
** How Jenny Slate's character pronounces "symbiote" [[note]]"symb-eye-ote" instead of the more traditional "sym-bee-ote"[[/note]]. Plus, her giving firm, equal stress to all three syllables like she's speaking some foreign language. Luckily, this was cut from the theatrical release.



* The JumpScare (on both sides of the fourth wall) where Venom suddenly shouts Eddie's name as he brushed his teeth would have been ''much'' more scary if not for the fact that the latter ScreamsLikeALittleGirl. There's also the fact that he ''somehow'' throws himself backwards so hard that he crashes into the bathroom wall.



** The guy who Carlton Drake subjects to OrificeInvasion in the third trailer would have been disturbing, [[NightmareRetardant if not for the victim's]] [[DullSurprise bland expression]].



** Venom's [[ToThePain violent threats to his enemies]] are this if they're not [[RefugeInAudacity aggressively]] [[CrossesTheLineTwice tasteless]] BlackComedy. His threat to mutilate a man until he's "like a turd on the wind" is particularly groan-inducing, especially coming after a genuinely frightening threat. ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' was even driven by this to make a video on just the trailer for the very first time, in which he mangles a bunch of other sayings.



* "HOSPITAL!!!! ''(extremely long pause)'' Now!"

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* %%Somebody please give context that explains why this is funny.
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"HOSPITAL!!!! ''(extremely long pause)'' Now!"



* [[spoiler:Kasady promising that there will be [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} "carnage"]] after he gets out]] is so [[{{Anvilicious}} on-the-nose]] that it feels like it's straight out of a parody.

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* [[spoiler:Kasady promising that there will be [[ComicBook/{{Carnage}} "carnage"]] after he gets out]] is so [[{{Anvilicious}} on-the-nose]] on-the-nose that it feels like it's straight out of a parody.



* Towards the end of the film, it's revealed that [[spoiler: Venom used to be something of a loser on his home planet, like Eddie]]. ''[[AssPull This]]'' is his entire reason for wanting to save the Earth.
* Despite angrily forcing Eddie to spit out cooked meats because they're no longer living animals, the symbiote develops a taste for ''tater tots'', and it practically demands that Eddie buy some during a conversation in the ending. The director [[https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/why-the-ultimate-venom-is-obsessed-with-tater-tots-according-to-director-ruben-fleischer admitted in an interview]] that the writers just thought it was funny and put it in the script. It unfortunately invites comparisons to a similar tots-focused scene in ''Film/NapoleonDynamite'' as a result.
* Drake having bonded with Riot is treated as a huge shocking twist going into the final battle... except for the fact that the audience was already well aware of it and saw the whole process. It feels very much like a consequence of ExecutiveMeddling to give Riot more screentime.
* Right after Eddie is separated from the symbiote, a rather [[SpecialEffectFailure obvious]] ADR overdub replaces the intended "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck you]]" with the much less vicious "we're done".

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