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(Note: Track 5 is spelt as "Desasters in the Sun" in the album packaging, but John Gossard has apparently claimed this was a typo, although other sources (i.e., ThatOtherWiki) have claimed that the odd spelling is meant as a reference to the Music/{{Destruction}} song "Total Desaster". Also, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain..." on the vinyl edition).

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(Note: Track 5 is spelt as "Desasters in the Sun" in the album packaging, but John Gossard has apparently claimed this was a typo, although other sources (i.e., ThatOtherWiki) Wiki/ThatOtherWiki) have claimed that the odd spelling is meant as a reference to the Music/{{Destruction}} song "Total Desaster". Also, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain..." on the vinyl edition).
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* {{Instrumentals}}: Not on the album itself, but the demo versions have no vocals. John Gossard didn't particularly care for his own vocals (and would not perform vocals in his future bands), but some listeners find them quite effective.

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* {{Instrumentals}}: Not on the album itself, but the demo versions have no vocals. John Gossard didn't particularly care for his own vocals (and would not perform vocals in his future bands), bands again until Dispirit), but some listeners find them quite effective.
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* IndecipherableLyrics: If there even are lyrics. For all we know, the vocals could just be wordless screams.

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* IndecipherableLyrics: If there even are lyrics. For all we know, the vocals could just be wordless screams.screams (though it does sound like Gossard is enunciating actual words at times).
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* FadingIntoTheNextSong / FakeOutFadeOut: Done subtly with "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" and "Dead as Dreams". The final chord of "Cut Their Grain" fades out, then fades back in to lead into "Dead as Dreams".

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* FadingIntoTheNextSong / FakeOutFadeOut: Done subtly with "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" and "Dead as Dreams". The final chord of "Cut Their Grain" fades out, then fades back in to lead into "Dead as Dreams". (The entire album actually runs together continuously on the CD edition, but you'll have to have the volume up fairly high to notice; the transitions between the first two songs and between tracks three and four are the most noticeable by far.)
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Dispirit, John Gossard's latest band, performs a similar post-rock influenced strain of black metal, though there's more funeral doom influence. Since Gossard's previous band, Asunder, had been a funeral doom outfit, this probably isn't surprising. (The chronology goes Weakling, then The Gault, then Asunder, then Dispirit. The Gault was essentially straight-up DoomMetal.)
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* MinimalistCoverArt: Just the band logo, album title, and a blurry picture of a screaming face.

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* MinimalistCoverArt: MinimalisticCoverArt: Just the band logo, album title, and a blurry picture of a screaming face.

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!!Track listing of ''Dead as Dreams''

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!!Track !! Track listing of ''Dead as Dreams''



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* FadingIntoTheNextSong[=/=]FakeOutFadeOut: Done subtly with "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" and "Dead as Dreams". The final chord of "Cut Their Grain" fades out, then fades back in to lead into "Dead as Dreams".
* HarshVocals[=/=]CarefulWithThatAxe[=/=]MetalScream: Because they're a black metal band, this is inevitable.

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* FadingIntoTheNextSong[=/=]FakeOutFadeOut: FadingIntoTheNextSong / FakeOutFadeOut: Done subtly with "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" and "Dead as Dreams". The final chord of "Cut Their Grain" fades out, then fades back in to lead into "Dead as Dreams".
* HarshVocals[=/=]CarefulWithThatAxe[=/=]MetalScream: HarshVocals / CarefulWithThatAxe / MetalScream: Because they're a black metal band, this is inevitable.



* IntentionallyAwkwardTitle[=/=]IntentionalEngrishForFunny: "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" and arguably "Desasters in the Sun" have these, as tributes to the many metal bands who didn't speak English as their first language but nonetheless recorded songs in GratuitousEnglish.

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* IntentionallyAwkwardTitle[=/=]IntentionalEngrishForFunny: IntentionallyAwkwardTitle / IntentionalEngrishForFunny: "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" and arguably "Desasters in the Sun" have these, as tributes to the many metal bands who didn't speak English as their first language but nonetheless recorded songs in GratuitousEnglish.



* PostRock[=/=]ProgressiveRock: The band's song structures fall somewhere between the two genres, although they take little other influence from them.

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* PostRock[=/=]ProgressiveRock: PostRock / ProgressiveRock: The band's song structures fall somewhere between the two genres, although they take little other influence from them.



* UncommonTime: Shows up fairly commonly. For example, the opening riff of "This Entire Fucking Battlefield" is in 9/4, and then it jumps around from there; some segments are mostly in 4/4, but there are fills that throw in bits of other time signatures as well.

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* UncommonTime: Shows up fairly commonly. For example, the opening riff of "This Entire Fucking Battlefield" is in 9/4, and then it jumps around from there; some segments are mostly in 4/4, but there are fills that throw in bits of other time signatures as well.well.
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* TitledAfterTheSong: They're named after a Music/{{Swans}} song.

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* TitledAfterTheSong: They're named after a Music/{{Swans}} song. They themselves got this with the post-black metal band Dead as Dreams.

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* IntentionallyAwkwardTitle[=/=]IntentionalEngrishForFunny: Several songs have these, as tributes to the many metal bands who didn't speak English as their first language but nonetheless recorded songs in GratuitousEnglish.

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* IntentionallyAwkwardTitle[=/=]IntentionalEngrishForFunny: Several songs "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" and arguably "Desasters in the Sun" have these, as tributes to the many metal bands who didn't speak English as their first language but nonetheless recorded songs in GratuitousEnglish.



* MinimalistCoverArt: Just the band logo, album title, and a blurry picture of a screaming face.



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* OneBookAuthorOneBookAuthor: Unless you count a demo and a rehearsal tape that they put out before ''Dead as Dreams''. Even so, this one album was more than enough to solidify them as an enormously influential band.


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* TitleTrack: "Dead as Dreams", of course.
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* UncommonTime: Shows up fairly commonly. For example, the opening riff of "This Entire Fucking Battlefield", for example, is in 9/4, and then it jumps around from there; some segments are mostly in 4/4, but there are fills that throw in bits of other time signatures as well.

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* UncommonTime: Shows up fairly commonly. For example, the opening riff of "This Entire Fucking Battlefield", for example, Battlefield" is in 9/4, and then it jumps around from there; some segments are mostly in 4/4, but there are fills that throw in bits of other time signatures as well.
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* TitledAfterTheSong: They're named after a Music/{{Swans}} song.

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* TitledAfterTheSong: They're named after a Music/{{Swans}} song.song.
* UncommonTime: Shows up fairly commonly. For example, the opening riff of "This Entire Fucking Battlefield", for example, is in 9/4, and then it jumps around from there; some segments are mostly in 4/4, but there are fills that throw in bits of other time signatures as well.
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* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Sarah Weiner is the only female member of the band. This means they had one more female member than most black metal bands do. Sarah was also a member of The Gault, although she switched to drums for that band.
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* FadingIntoTheNextSong: Done subtly with "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" and "Dead as Dreams". The final chord of "Cut Their Grain" fades out, then fades back in to lead into "Dead as Dreams".

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* FadingIntoTheNextSong: FadingIntoTheNextSong[=/=]FakeOutFadeOut: Done subtly with "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" and "Dead as Dreams". The final chord of "Cut Their Grain" fades out, then fades back in to lead into "Dead as Dreams".
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* IntentionallyAwkwardTitle: Several songs have these, as tributes to the many metal bands who didn't speak English as their first language but nonetheless recorded songs in GratuitousEnglish.

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* IntentionallyAwkwardTitle: IntentionallyAwkwardTitle[=/=]IntentionalEngrishForFunny: Several songs have these, as tributes to the many metal bands who didn't speak English as their first language but nonetheless recorded songs in GratuitousEnglish.
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* IntentionallyAwkwardTitle: Several songs have these, as tributes to the many metal bands who didn't speak English as their first language but nonetheless recorded songs in GratuitousEnglish.
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forgot that was YMMV


* FaceOfTheBand: John Gossard.
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* FaceOfTheBand: John Gossard.
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* BadassBoast: Their name is actually this: it's a description of you, the listener.



* SiameseTwinSongs: On the CD, "This Entire Fucking Battlefield" and "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" are this. On the LP, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain..." due to vinyl side limitations, so this does not happen.

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* SiameseTwinSongs: On the CD, "This Entire Fucking Battlefield" and "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" are this. On the LP, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain..." due to vinyl side limitations, so this does not happen.happen.
* TitledAfterTheSong: They're named after a Music/{{Swans}} song.
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* LongTitle: "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein", "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die".



* SiameseTwinSongs: On the CD, "This Entire Fucking Battlefield" and "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" are this. On the LP, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" due to vinyl side limitations, so this does not happen.

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* SiameseTwinSongs: On the CD, "This Entire Fucking Battlefield" and "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" are this. On the LP, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" Grain..." due to vinyl side limitations, so this does not happen.
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Generally a high 9 or low 10. They might be lower without Gossard's tortured vocals, which are worthy of Music/{{Burzum}}.
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* BlackMetal: One of the most influential American bands, despite releasing only one album.

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* BlackMetal: One of the most influential American bands, despite releasing only one album. They serve as arguable TropeCodifier for the Blackened Shoegaze and Black Metal/Post-Rock subgenres.
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* DroneOfDread: How several of their songs end.
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* LastNoteNightmare: "Dead as Dreams" ends with about three minutes of this. Also, "Disasters in the Sun" is an arguable Last ''Song'' Nightmare.
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* LoudnessWar: Not one of the worst examples, as the album comes out to [=DR6=], but there's still some clipping. The vinyl version is highly sought after (it usually sells for more than $200) for this reason.

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* LoudnessWar: Not one of the worst examples, as the album comes out to [=DR6=], but there's still some clipping. The vinyl version is [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes highly sought after after]] (it usually sells for more than $200) $200, and fans have been begging Gossard to reissue it for years) for this reason.
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(Note: Track 5 is spelt as "Desasters in the Sun" in the album packaging, but John Gossard has apparently claimed this was a typo, although other sources (i.e., ThatOtherWiki) have claimed that the odd spelling is meant as a reference to the Music/{{Destruction}} song "Total Desaster").

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(Note: Track 5 is spelt as "Desasters in the Sun" in the album packaging, but John Gossard has apparently claimed this was a typo, although other sources (i.e., ThatOtherWiki) have claimed that the odd spelling is meant as a reference to the Music/{{Destruction}} song "Total Desaster").
Desaster". Also, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain..." on the vinyl edition).
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* HarshVocals[=/=]CarefulWithThatAxe[/=]MetalScream: Because they're a black metal band, this is inevitable.

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* HarshVocals[=/=]CarefulWithThatAxe[/=]MetalScream: HarshVocals[=/=]CarefulWithThatAxe[=/=]MetalScream: Because they're a black metal band, this is inevitable.

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(Note: Track 5 is spelt as "Desasters in the Sun", but John Gossard has apparently claimed this was a typo, although other sources (i.e., ThatOtherWiki) have claimed that the odd spelling is meant as a reference to the Music/{{Destruction}} song "Total Desaster").

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(Note: Track 5 is spelt as "Desasters in the Sun", Sun" in the album packaging, but John Gossard has apparently claimed this was a typo, although other sources (i.e., ThatOtherWiki) have claimed that the odd spelling is meant as a reference to the Music/{{Destruction}} song "Total Desaster").



* BlackMetal: One of the most influential American bands.

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* BlackMetal: One of the most influential American bands.bands, despite releasing only one album.



* HarshVocals[=/=]CarefulWithThatAxe[/=]MetalScream: Because they're a black metal band, this is inevitable.



* LoudnessWar: Not one of the worst examples, as the album comes out to [=DR6=], but there's still some clipping. The vinyl version is highly sought after (it usually sells for more than $200) for this reason.



* SiameseTwinSongs: On the CD, "This Entire Fucking Battlefield" and "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" are this. On the LP, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" so this does not happen.

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* SiameseTwinSongs: On the CD, "This Entire Fucking Battlefield" and "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" are this. On the LP, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" due to vinyl side limitations, so this does not happen.
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* AmbientMusic: An influence on some parts, such as the ends of "Dead as Dreams" and "Disasters in the Sun".

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* AmbientMusic: {{Ambient}}: An influence on some parts, such as the ends of "Dead as Dreams" and "Disasters in the Sun".
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Weakling was an influential BlackMetal band from San Francisco, California. While they never toured, rarely performed live at all, and only released one album, 2000's ''Dead as Dreams'' ([[TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment recorded in 1998]]), their musical output became immensely influential on an entire generation of black metal bands from the United States and elsewhere, including such acts as Music/WolvesInTheThroneRoom, Music/{{Krallice}}, Music/AshBorer, Music/FellVoices, Music/{{Panopticon}}, and countless others.

Weakling's primary innovation was to filter the music of Scandinavian BlackMetal bands through the lenses of {{Shoegaze}}, PostRock, and ProgressiveRock. The songs were [[EpicRocking long]], with the shortest still exceeding ten minutes in length, and consisted of multiple sections that interlocked to form a coherent whole. The result did not immediately make an impact, and the band was initially noted mostly for containing a future member of Music/TheFuckingChamps, but a later reissue of the album [[VindicatedByHistory brought it more attention]], and it was hailed by no less a source than Fenriz of Music/{{Darkthrone}} as a masterpiece.

Various members later showed up in other bands such as Music/TheGault, Music/{{Asunder}}, Music/{{Dispirit}}, Music/TheFuckingChamps, The Husbands, and Saros.

!!Track listing of ''Dead as Dreams''
#Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein - 10:28
#Dead as Dreams - 20:39
#This Entire Fucking Battlefield - 14:47
#No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die - 13:09
#Disasters in the Sun - 17:05

(Note: Track 5 is spelt as "Desasters in the Sun", but John Gossard has apparently claimed this was a typo, although other sources (i.e., ThatOtherWiki) have claimed that the odd spelling is meant as a reference to the Music/{{Destruction}} song "Total Desaster").

!!Members
*John Gossard: guitar, vocals
*Josh Smith: guitar
*Sarah Weiner: bass
*Casey Ward: keyboards
*Sam Foster (a.k.a. Little Sunshine): drums

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*AmbientMusic: An influence on some parts, such as the ends of "Dead as Dreams" and "Disasters in the Sun".
*BlackMetal: One of the most influential American bands.
*EpicInstrumentalOpener: "Dead as Dreams" is a magnificent example, with a gorgeous four-minute intro that is regarded by most fans as CrowningMusicOfAwesome.
*EpicRocking: Exclusively so. Their shortest song is still nearly ten and a half minutes long.
*FadingIntoTheNextSong: Done subtly with "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" and "Dead as Dreams". The final chord of "Cut Their Grain" fades out, then fades back in to lead into "Dead as Dreams".
*IndecipherableLyrics: If there even are lyrics. For all we know, the vocals could just be wordless screams.
*{{Instrumentals}}: Not on the album itself, but the demo versions have no vocals. John Gossard didn't particularly care for his own vocals (and would not perform vocals in his future bands), but some listeners find them quite effective.
*PostRock[=/=]ProgressiveRock: The band's song structures fall somewhere between the two genres, although they take little other influence from them.
*{{Shoegaze}}: A distinct influence on the band's layered guitar sound.
*SiameseTwinSongs: On the CD, "This Entire Fucking Battlefield" and "No One Can Be Called as a Man While He'll Die" are this. On the LP, "No One..." precedes "Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein" so this does not happen.

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