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* Jordan Mather - drums (2017-)
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* Booka Nile - keyboards, clean vocals (2017-2022)
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* RevolvingDoorBand: ZigZaggingTrope. They've actually managed to keep a fairly stable lineup, especially compared to other death-influenced bands. Two of the seven founding members are still around. That said, they can't seem to hold on to a rhythm guitarist. They're also on their third keyboardist.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Booka is the only female member of the band. Her predecessors Heather and Louisa as well.
* SopranoAndGravel: Sean as the gravel and Louisa (followed by Booka) as the soprano in their later material.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Booka is the only female member of the band. Her predecessors Heather and Louisa as well.
* SopranoAndGravel: Sean as the gravel and Louisa (followed by Booka) as the soprano in their later material.
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* RevolvingDoorBand: ZigZaggingTrope. They've actually managed to keep a fairly stable lineup, especially compared to other death-influenced bands. Two of the seven founding members are still around. That said, they can't seem to hold on to a rhythm guitarist. They're also on their third fourth keyboardist.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple:Booka Alex is the only sole female member of the band. Her predecessors Heather and Louisa as well.
The people she succeeded counted during their respective tenures, too.
* SopranoAndGravel: Sean as the gravel and Alex (following Heather, Louisa(followed by Booka) and Booka in that order) as the soprano in their later material.material. [[note]] Again, Alex can supply the gravel, as well[[/note]]
* TheSmurfettePrinciple:
* SopranoAndGravel: Sean as the gravel and Alex (following Heather, Louisa
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* GenreMashup: They're a progressive symphonic deathcore band with regular metalcore elements as of 2015.
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Early material was a solid 10, being more influenced by death metal and lacking clean vocals. Later material with the metalcore influences, more prominent symphonic elements, and most important of all, the addition of Louisa (later Booka) doing cleans, would probably rest at an 8 or a 9.
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* VocalTagTeam: Their early material had Sean doing all the vocals, but the addition of Louisa saw this aspect with her doing clean singing. Sean is still the most prominent vocalist, however.however.
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* Louisa Burton - Keyboards, clean vocals (2011-)
* Lachlan Monty - Rhythm guitar (2013-)
* Jay Coombs - Bass (Session, 2014-)
* Nick [=McLernon=] - Lead guitar (2008-)
* Chris Arias-Real - Bass guitar (2008-)
* Tim Madden - Drums (2008-)
* Louisa Burton - Keyboards, clean vocals (2011-)
* Lachlan Monty - Rhythm guitar (2013-)
* Jay Coombs - Bass (Session, 2014-)
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* Sean Harmanis - Lead lead vocals (2008-)
* Nick [=McLernon=] -Lead lead guitar (2008-)
*Chris Arias-Real Jaya Jeffery - Bass guitar (2008-)
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* Cody Brooks - Rhythm guitar (2008-2011)
* Heather Menaglio - Keyboards (2008-2011)
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* Richard West - Rhythm rhythm guitar (2008)
* Cody Brooks -Rhythm rhythm guitar (2008-2011)
* Heather Menaglio -Keyboards keyboards, synthesizer (2008-2011)
* Craig Buckingham -Rhythm rhythm guitar (2011-2013)
* Chris Arias-Real - bass (2008-2016)
* Tim Madden - drums (2008-2017)
* Lachlan Monty - rhythm guitar (2013-2017)
* Louisa Burton - keyboards, piano, clean vocals (2011-2017)
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* Heather Menaglio -
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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Early material was a solid 10, being more influenced by death metal and lacking clean vocals. Later material, with the metalcore influences, more prominent symphonic elements, and most important of all, the addition of Louisa doing cleans, would probably rest at an 8 or a 9.
* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Early material was a solid 10, being more influenced by death metal and lacking clean vocals. Later material, with the metalcore influences, more prominent symphonic elements, and most important of all, the addition of Louisa doing cleans, would probably rest at an 8 or a 9.
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* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Louisa is the only female member of the band. Her predecessor Heather as well.
* SopranoAndGravel: Sean as the gravel and Louisa as the soprano in their later material.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Louisa is the only female member of the band. Her predecessor Heather as well.
* SopranoAndGravel: Sean as the gravel and Louisa as the soprano in their later material.
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* RevolvingDoorBand: ZigZaggingTrope. They've actually managed to keep a fairly stable lineup, especially compared to other death-influenced bands. Four Two of the seven founding members are still around. That said, they can't seem to hold on to a rhythm guitarist, being that they are currently on their fourth one. guitarist. They're also on their second third keyboardist.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple:Louisa Booka is the only female member of the band. Her predecessor predecessors Heather and Louisa as well.
* SopranoAndGravel: Sean as the gravel and Louisa (followed by Booka) as the soprano in their later material.
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* ''How to Survive a Funeral'' (2020)
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* ChronicallyCrashedCar: Multiple vans, actually, but according to [[Music/ThyArtIsMurder CJ McMahon]], they have an uncanny knack for getting into accidents (up to the point where, after getting into one, they left the rental lot and got into ''another'' accident right as they pulled out onto the road with said rental). He even joked that Thy Art Is Murder now refuses to tour with them because they regard them as bad luck omens.
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* LighterAndSofter: Their later material is quite as hard as their earlier, the reasons being explained above. That said, it's still brutal by mainstream standards.
* LighterAndSofter: Their later material is quite as hard as their earlier, the reasons being explained above. That said, it's still brutal by mainstream standards.
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Make Them Suffer is an Australian {{Deathcore}} band that features elements of SymphonicMetal, ProgressiveMetal, and regular {{Metalcore}}. In fact, some regard them as ''the'' line between deathcore and metalcore. They formed in [[OlderThanTheyThink 2008]], but didn't become a major player until the '10s where they were signed to Rise Records. While they're not an outright massive name in deathcore, they've gained an increasingly large worldwide following over the years. 2016 marked their very first headlining U.S. tour.
Also, they are ''not'' named after the Music/CannibalCorpse song of the same name. It was just something they made up on the spot.
After going through several lineup changes, the roster came to be as follows:
[[AC:Members]]
* Sean Harmanis - Lead vocals (2008-)
* Nick [=McLernon=] - Lead guitar (2008-)
* Chris Arias-Real - Bass guitar (2008-)
* Tim Madden - Drums (2008-)
* Louisa Burton - Keyboards, clean vocals (2011-)
* Lachlan Monty - Rhythm guitar (2013-)
* Jay Coombs - Bass (Session, 2014-)
[[AC:Past members]]
* Richard West - Rhythm guitar (2008)
* Cody Brooks - Rhythm guitar (2008-2011)
* Heather Menaglio - Keyboards (2008-2011)
* Craig Buckingham - Rhythm guitar (2011-2013)
[[AC:Discography]]
* ''Make Them Suffer'' (Demo, 2009)
* ''Lord of Woe'' (EP, 2010)
* ''Neverbloom'' (2012)
* ''Old Souls'' (2015)
!!Tropes
* {{Deathcore}}: Probably one of the more respected bands of this [[TheScrappy widely reviled]] genre.
* HarshVocals: Sean is always doing this. Early material had him death growling, but now he primarily screams.
* IndecipherableLyrics: It's almost impossible to tell what Sean is saying most of the time.
* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: There are currently seven members of the band. Not too shabby.
* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Early material was a solid 10, being more influenced by death metal band lacking clean vocals. Later material, with the metalcore influences, more prominent symphonic elements, and most important of all, the addition of Louisa doing cleans, would probably rest at an 8 or a 9.
* NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly: They're a progressive symphonic deathcore band with regular metalcore elements, as of 2015.
* RevolvingDoorBand: ZigZaggingTrope. They've actually managed to keep a fairly stable lineup, especially compared to other death-influenced bands. Four of the seven founding members are still around. That said, they can't seem to hold on to a rhythm guitarist, being that they are currently on their fourth one. They're also on their second keyboardist.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Louisa is the only female member of the band. Her predecessor Heather as well.
* SopranoAndGravel: Sean and Louisa in their later material.
* VocalTagTeam: Their early material had Sean doing all the vocals, but the addition of Louisa saw this aspect with her doing clean singing. Sean is still the most prominent vocalist, however.
Make Them Suffer is an Australian {{Deathcore}} band that features elements of SymphonicMetal, ProgressiveMetal, and regular {{Metalcore}}. In fact, some regard them as ''the'' line between deathcore and metalcore. They formed in [[OlderThanTheyThink 2008]], but didn't become a major player until the '10s where they were signed to Rise Records. While they're not an outright massive name in deathcore, they've gained an increasingly large worldwide following over the years. 2016 marked their very first headlining U.S. tour.
Also, they are ''not'' named after the Music/CannibalCorpse song of the same name. It was just something they made up on the spot.
After going through several lineup changes, the roster came to be as follows:
[[AC:Members]]
* Sean Harmanis - Lead vocals (2008-)
* Nick [=McLernon=] - Lead guitar (2008-)
* Chris Arias-Real - Bass guitar (2008-)
* Tim Madden - Drums (2008-)
* Louisa Burton - Keyboards, clean vocals (2011-)
* Lachlan Monty - Rhythm guitar (2013-)
* Jay Coombs - Bass (Session, 2014-)
[[AC:Past members]]
* Richard West - Rhythm guitar (2008)
* Cody Brooks - Rhythm guitar (2008-2011)
* Heather Menaglio - Keyboards (2008-2011)
* Craig Buckingham - Rhythm guitar (2011-2013)
[[AC:Discography]]
* ''Make Them Suffer'' (Demo, 2009)
* ''Lord of Woe'' (EP, 2010)
* ''Neverbloom'' (2012)
* ''Old Souls'' (2015)
!!Tropes
* {{Deathcore}}: Probably one of the more respected bands of this [[TheScrappy widely reviled]] genre.
* HarshVocals: Sean is always doing this. Early material had him death growling, but now he primarily screams.
* IndecipherableLyrics: It's almost impossible to tell what Sean is saying most of the time.
* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: There are currently seven members of the band. Not too shabby.
* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Early material was a solid 10, being more influenced by death metal band lacking clean vocals. Later material, with the metalcore influences, more prominent symphonic elements, and most important of all, the addition of Louisa doing cleans, would probably rest at an 8 or a 9.
* NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly: They're a progressive symphonic deathcore band with regular metalcore elements, as of 2015.
* RevolvingDoorBand: ZigZaggingTrope. They've actually managed to keep a fairly stable lineup, especially compared to other death-influenced bands. Four of the seven founding members are still around. That said, they can't seem to hold on to a rhythm guitarist, being that they are currently on their fourth one. They're also on their second keyboardist.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Louisa is the only female member of the band. Her predecessor Heather as well.
* SopranoAndGravel: Sean and Louisa in their later material.
* VocalTagTeam: Their early material had Sean doing all the vocals, but the addition of Louisa saw this aspect with her doing clean singing. Sean is still the most prominent vocalist, however.
