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It seems \"Providence\" is not so despised after all!


* {{Improv}}: From beloved ("Asbury Park") to almost universally despised by fans ("Providence").

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* {{Improv}}: From beloved ("Asbury Park") to almost universally despised by fans ("Providence").fans.
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* MotorMouth: Adrian Belew in "Neurotica".
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* [[Music/{{Yes}} Bill Bruford]] (1972 - 1998): drums, percussion

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* [[Music/{{Yes}} Bill Bruford]] Music/BillBruford (1972 - 1998): drums, percussion
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** The whole Wetton, Cross and Bruford line-up could be considered this. ''Starless and Bible Black'' is probably every bit as edgy as ''Red'' but just not quite as heavy.

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** The whole Wetton, Cross and Bruford line-up could be considered this. After the complete personnel turnover from "Islands" to "Larks' Tongues in Aspic", the band metamorphosed from a lush, symphonic prog band into almost a metal group. ''Starless and Bible Black'' is probably every bit as edgy as ''Red'' but just not quite as heavy.
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* TitleTrack: An unusual case, in that all but one of their studio albums have title tracks (and even the one that doesn't, ''Beat'', has a song called "Heartbeat"). It appears that Robert Fripp finds the inclusion of a title track vitally important. The most amusing example of this is the album ''Starless and Bible Black''--although they had begun writing a song whose chorus included the titular phrase, it was eventually rejected from the album, and a live improv was just added in its place and titled "Starless and Bible Black". The originally intended title track made its way onto ''Red'', where it was entitled just "Starless"

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* TitleTrack: An unusual case, in that all but one of their studio albums have title tracks (and even the one that doesn't, ''Beat'', has a song called "Heartbeat"). It appears that Robert Fripp finds the inclusion of a title track vitally important. The most amusing example of this is the album ''Starless and Bible Black''--although they had begun writing a song whose chorus included the titular title phrase, it was eventually rejected from the album, and a live improv was just added in its place and titled "Starless and Bible Black". The originally intended title track made its way onto ''Red'', where it was entitled just "Starless"
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* TitleTrack: An unusual case, in that all but one of their studio albums have title tracks (and even the one that doesn't, ''Beat'', has a song called "Heartbeat"). It appears that Robert Fripp finds the inclusion of a title track vitally important. The most amusing example of this is the album ''Starless and Bible Black''--although they had begun writing a song whose chorus included the titular phrase, it was eventually rejected from the album, and a live improv was just added in its place and titled "Starless and Bible Black". The originally intended title track made its way onto ''Red'', where it was entitled just "Starless"
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* RockMeAmadeus: "The Devil's Triangle" has some obvious similarities to "Mars, the Bringer of War", but [[TheJimmyHartVersion different enough to not be a copyright violation]]. (They either didn't ask for permission or were denied permission to record it at that time. Later on, some archival live albums such as ''Epitaph'' included recordings of their adaptation of "Mars, the Bringer of War" that they performed live in 1969, titled simply "Mars".)

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* RockMeAmadeus: "The Devil's Triangle" has some obvious similarities to "Mars, the Bringer of War", but [[TheJimmyHartVersion [[SuspiciouslySimilarSong different enough to not be a copyright violation]]. (They either didn't ask for permission or were denied permission to record it at that time. Later on, some archival live albums such as ''Epitaph'' included recordings of their adaptation of "Mars, the Bringer of War" that they performed live in 1969, titled simply "Mars".)
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* SillyLoveSongs: You wouldn't expect to see this trope here, but there you are. "Cadence and Cascade".
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*** TheHero: Robert Fripp

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*** TheHero: Robert FrippIan [=McDonald=]



*** TheSmartGuy: Ian [=McDonald=]

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*** TheSmartGuy: Ian [=McDonald=]Robert Fripp
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* ShoutOut: TheBeatles, JimiHendrix and RupertBear are depicted on the cover of ''Lizard''.

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* ShoutOut: TheBeatles, JimiHendrix and RupertBear ComicStrip/RupertBear are depicted on the cover of ''Lizard''.
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* David Cross [[hottip:*:No, not ''that'' DavidCross]] (1972 - 1974): violin, Mellotron, piano

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* David Cross [[hottip:*:No, not ''that'' DavidCross]] Creator/DavidCross]] (1972 - 1974): violin, Mellotron, piano
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** YourMileageMayVary with "Providence". The first minute and a half contains some excellent SilenceOfTheLambs-styled violin work from Cross and Wetton provides one of the best bass solos in music history in the last three minutes. The improv section of "Moonchild", on the other hand...

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-->'''Bruford''': In Music/{{Yes}}, there'd be arguments about whether you can play an F over an E major. In Crimson, you were just supposed to know.
-->'''Bruford''' (on joining King Crimson): It was like climbing over the Berlin Wall... [[{{Dissimile}} into East Germany]].

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-->'''Bruford''': In Music/{{Yes}}, there'd be arguments there was an endless debate about whether you can play an should it be F over an E major. natural in the bass with G sharp on top by the organ. In Crimson, King Crimson... you were just supposed to know.
''know''.
-->'''Bruford''' (on joining King Crimson): It was like climbing going over the Berlin Wall... [[{{Dissimile}} into East Germany]].
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Their music is characterised by really impressive instrumental technique, EpicRocking, pretty extreme dynamic contrasts, lots of {{Improv}}, lyrics that usually [[WordSaladLyrics sound cooler than they read]] (when [[Music/{{Instrumentals}} they appear]]), and a large percentage of tunes that seem specifically designed to ''[[MindScrew fuck with your head]]''.

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Their music is characterised by really impressive instrumental technique, EpicRocking, pretty extreme dynamic contrasts, lots of {{Improv}}, lyrics that usually [[WordSaladLyrics sound cooler than they read]] (when [[Music/{{Instrumentals}} [[{{Instrumentals}} they appear]]), and a large percentage of tunes that seem specifically designed to ''[[MindScrew fuck with your head]]''.



* Music/{{Instrumentals}}: Lots of them. Some King Crimson fans resent that they do songs with vocals at all.

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* Music/{{Instrumentals}}: {{Instrumentals}}: Lots of them. Some King Crimson fans resent that they do songs with vocals at all.
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* RedOniBlueOni: When the showmanlike, somewhat flamboyant Adrian Belew and the focused, intellectual Robert Fripp are put on the same stage, this kind of interaction inevitably results.
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** Since 1997, they do not fit this trope.

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** Since 1997, they do have not fit this trope.
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** Discipline - Three of a Perfect Pair:
*** TheHero: Robert Fripp
*** TheLancer: Adrian Belew
*** TheSmartGuy: Tony Levin
*** TheBigGuy: Bill Bruford
** THRAK:
*** TheHero: Robert Fripp
*** TheLancer: Adrian Belew
*** TheSmartGuy: Tony Levin
*** TheBigGuy: Bill Bruford
*** TheChick: Pat Mastelotto
*** TheSixthRanger: Trey Gunn
** Since 1997, they do not fit this trope.
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** Lizard:

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** Lizard:Islands:

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** Larks' Tongues In Aspic:

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** Larks' Tongues In Aspic:Lizard:


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*** TheLancer: Boz Burrell
*** TheSmartGuy: Mel Collins
*** TheBigGuy: Ian Wallace
*** TheChick: Keith Tippett
*** NonActionGuy[=/=]TheMentor: Peter Sinfield
** Larks' Tongues In Aspic:
*** TheHero: Robert Fripp

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*** TheSmartGuy: Ian Mcdonald

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*** TheSmartGuy: Ian Mcdonald[=McDonald=]



*** TheTagalongKid: Gordon Haskell

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*** TheTagalongKid: TagalongKid: Gordon Haskell



*** TheBigGuy: Andy McCulloch

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*** TheBigGuy: Andy McCulloch[=McCulloch=]


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*** TagalongKid: Jon Anderson
** Larks' Tongues In Aspic:
*** TheHero: Robert Fripp
*** TheLancer: John Wetton
*** TheSmartGuy: David Cross
*** TheBigGuy: Bill Bruford
*** TheChick: Jamie Muir
*** NonActionGuy[=/=]TheMentor: Richard Palmer-James
** Starless and Bible Black:
*** Same as Larks' Tongues, minus Muir
** Red:
*** TheHero[=/=]TheSmartGuy: Robert Fripp
*** TheLancer: John Wetton
*** TheBigGuy: Bill Bruford
*** TheChick: David Cross
*** NonActionGuy[=/=]TheMentor: Richard Palmer-James
*** TheSixthRanger[=s=]: Ian [=McDonald=], Mel Collins

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** The ITCOTCK era:

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** ITWOP:
*** TheHero: Robert Fripp
*** TheLancer: Greg Lake
*** TheSmartGuy: Mel Collins
*** TheBigGuy: Michael Giles
*** TheChick: Keith Tippett
*** TheSixthRanger: Peter Giles
*** NonActionGuy[=/=]TheMentor: Peter Sinfield
*** TheTagalongKid: Gordon Haskell
** Lizard:
*** TheHero: Robert Fripp
*** TheLancer: Gordon Haskell
*** TheSmartGuy: Mel Collins
*** TheBigGuy: Andy McCulloch
*** TheChick: Keith Tippett
*** NonActionGuy[=/=]TheMentor: Peter Sinfield
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* FiveManBand:
** The ITCOTCK era:
*** TheHero: Robert Fripp
*** TheLancer: Greg Lake
*** TheSmartGuy: Ian Mcdonald
*** TheBigGuy: Michael Giles
*** NonActionGuy[=/=]TheMentor: Peter Sinfield

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* EpicRiff: "21st Century Schizoid Man", "In The Court of the Crimson King", "Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Part Two", "Red".


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* TheSpartanWay: Bill Bruford's descriptions of what playing in King Crimson was like almost make the band sound like this.
-->'''Bruford''': In Music/{{Yes}}, there'd be arguments about whether you can play an F over an E major. In Crimson, you were just supposed to know.
-->'''Bruford''' (on joining King Crimson): It was like climbing over the Berlin Wall... [[{{Dissimile}} into East Germany]].
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** The whole Whetton, Cross and Bruford line-up could be considered this. ''Starless and Bible Black'' is probably as edgy as ''Red'' but just not quite as heavy.

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** The whole Whetton, Wetton, Cross and Bruford line-up could be considered this. ''Starless and Bible Black'' is probably every bit as edgy as ''Red'' but just not quite as heavy.
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** The whole Whetton, Cross and Bruford line-up could be considered this. ''Starless and Bible Black'' is probably as edgy as ''Red'' but just not quite as heavy.

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Their music is characterised by really impressive instrumental technique, EpicRocking, pretty extreme dynamic contrasts, lots of {{Improv}}, lyrics that usually [[WordSaladLyrics sound cooler than they read]] (when [[Music/{{Instrumentals}} they appear]]), and a large percentage of tunes that seem specifically designed to ''[[HighOctaneNightmareFuel fuck with your head]]''.

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Their music is characterised by really impressive instrumental technique, EpicRocking, pretty extreme dynamic contrasts, lots of {{Improv}}, lyrics that usually [[WordSaladLyrics sound cooler than they read]] (when [[Music/{{Instrumentals}} they appear]]), and a large percentage of tunes that seem specifically designed to ''[[HighOctaneNightmareFuel ''[[MindScrew fuck with your head]]''.


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* ReclusiveArtist: Robert Fripp (who combines GentlemanSnarker with SmartPeopleWearGlasses - read his blog). The band as a whole haven't been heard from much in a while, though.
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* ArsonMurderAndJaywalking: In a live performance of "Thela Hun Ginjeet", Adrian Belew recounts how the gang he encountered wanted to "Kill me! Rip my limbs off! Smash my tape recorder!"
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* [[FrankZappa Adrian Belew]] (1981 - present): guitar, vocals

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* [[FrankZappa [[Music/FrankZappa Adrian Belew]] (1981 - present): guitar, vocals



* [[PorcupineTree Gavin Harrison]] (2007 - present): drums

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* [[PorcupineTree [[Music/PorcupineTree Gavin Harrison]] (2007 - present): drums



* [[{{ptitlee7e3e3u6}} Greg Lake]] (1969-1970): bass, vocals

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* [[{{ptitlee7e3e3u6}} [[Music/EmersonLakeAndPalmer Greg Lake]] (1969-1970): bass, vocals



* [[BadCompany Boz Burrell]] (1971 - 1972): bass, vocals

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* [[BadCompany [[Music/BadCompany Boz Burrell]] (1971 - 1972): bass, vocals



* [[{{Yes}} Bill Bruford]] (1972 - 1998): drums, percussion

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* [[{{Yes}} [[Music/{{Yes}} Bill Bruford]] (1972 - 1998): drums, percussion



* [[{{Yes}} Jon Anderson]] (1970): vocals

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* [[{{Yes}} [[Music/{{Yes}} Jon Anderson]] (1970): vocals



* [[RoxyMusic Eddie Jobson]] (1975): violin, piano, recruited to add violin to the live album ''USA'' whenever Cross' contributions were lost to technical issues

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* [[RoxyMusic [[Music/RoxyMusic Eddie Jobson]] (1975): violin, piano, recruited to add violin to the live album ''USA'' whenever Cross' contributions were lost to technical issues
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* David Cross (1972 - 1974): violin, Mellotron, piano

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* David Cross [[hottip:*:No, not ''that'' DavidCross]] (1972 - 1974): violin, Mellotron, piano
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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: Each verse of "Elephant Talk" is a list of words that mean "talk" that share the same first letter. This gets [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in the fourth verse with the line "These are words with a D this time."

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