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* LoudnessWar: This has affected all their releases from ''Blizzard Beasts'' onwards, and ''Battles in the North'' got a remaster that also somewhat falls into this trope. ''At the Heart of Winter'' is probably the worst example of this in their discography, though I's ''Between Two Worlds'' is arguably even worse. Abbath's solo album is also affected, although by modern standards it's actually fairly quiet (it's still moderately clipped, but many listeners will probably not be able to tell). Their early work remains unaffected even in modern issues; ''Pure Holocaust'' in particular stands out as a sterling example of the way black metal still ought to sound.

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* LoudnessWar: This has affected all their releases from ''Blizzard Beasts'' onwards, and ''Battles in the North'' onwards (''Battles'' also got a remaster that also somewhat falls into this trope. which was even louder than the original release). ''At the Heart of Winter'' is and ''Damned in Black'' (both [=DR5=]) are probably the worst example examples of this in their discography, though and ''All Shall Fall'' and I's ''Between Two Worlds'' is arguably even worse. stand out as well (both [=DR6=]). Abbath's solo album is also affected, although by modern standards it's actually fairly quiet (it's [=DR7=] and still moderately clipped, but many listeners will probably not be able to tell). tell); the same goes for ''Sons of Northern Darkness'', which is more dynamic than most of Immortal's other late-period releases at [=DR7=] and also not as badly clipped as many of them. Their early work remains first two albums remain unaffected even in modern issues; ''Pure Holocaust'' in particular stands out as a sterling example of the way black metal still ought to sound.
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* VocalEvolution: Compare Abbath's vocals on the earlier albums like ''Pure Holocaust'' and ''Battles in the North'' to the ones on later albums like ''Sons of Northern Darkness'' and ''All Shall Fall''. Yep.

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* EpicRocking: Most of their songs, especially since they shifted their style to Melodic Black/Thrash Metal on ''At the Heart of Winter''.

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* EchoingAcoustics: This started to be a major element of their sound with ''Pure Holocaust'' and they haven't toned it down much since.
* EpicRocking: Most of their songs, especially since they shifted their style to Melodic Black/Thrash Metal on ''At the Heart of Winter'', which consisted exclusively of this trope. All of their albums since ''Blizzard Beasts'' have contained at least one example of this, with ''Sons of Northern Darkness'' taking the prize for largest number of epic songs after ''Heart of Winter''.



* LoudnessWar: This has affected all their releases from ''At the Heart of Winter'' onwards. Abbath's solo album is also affected, although not as badly as a lot of other modern examples.

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* LoudnessWar: This has affected all their releases from ''Blizzard Beasts'' onwards, and ''Battles in the North'' got a remaster that also somewhat falls into this trope. ''At the Heart of Winter'' onwards. is probably the worst example of this in their discography, though I's ''Between Two Worlds'' is arguably even worse. Abbath's solo album is also affected, although not as badly as a lot of other by modern examples.standards it's actually fairly quiet (it's still moderately clipped, but many listeners will probably not be able to tell). Their early work remains unaffected even in modern issues; ''Pure Holocaust'' in particular stands out as a sterling example of the way black metal still ought to sound.



* UncommonTime: One riff of "Cold Winds of Funeral Dust" has a measure of 6/4 followed by a measure of 7/4.

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* UncommonTime: One They like this trope a lot. As an early example, one riff of "Cold Winds of Funeral Dust" has a measure of 6/4 followed by a measure of 7/4.7/4. An exhaustive list would take a long time to compile; they generally use it at least [[OnceAnEpisode once an album]] and often times more than that. It's one of the reasons they have a reputation as one of the most technical and musically complex second-wave acts.
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* CareerEndingInjury: Demonaz Doom Occulta was forced to stop playing guitar due to him developing tendinitis in his arms in 1997. He's still writes the band's lyrics and is considered an active member by the band itself

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* CareerEndingInjury: Demonaz Doom Occulta was forced to stop playing guitar due to him developing tendinitis in his arms in 1997. He's He still writes the band's lyrics and is considered an active member by the band itselfitself.
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The band split up in 2003 for various personal reasons. Abbath formed the {{Supergroup}} I with various other musicians from the Norwegian black metal scene (including members of such groups as Music/{{Enslaved}} and Music/{{Gorgoroth}}) after Immortal's first disbandment; the group released the album ''Between Two Worlds'' to critical acclaim. The band's style is generally considered to be a fusion of BlackMetal with the style of Music/{{Motorhead}}, also referred to as "black and roll", and has been considered an influence on the later work of other bands, notably Music/{{Satyricon}}. I is currently on hiatus. Immortal reformed in 2007 for a string of live performances; after the reunion, the band decided to reform the band on a permanent basis, releasing the album ''All Shall Fall'' in 2009.

However, internal conflicts between the band members resulting from tumultuous recording sessions for the band's ninth album resulted in a second disbandment in 2015. What exactly occurred during the sessions [[RashomonStyle seems to depend upon whom you believe]], but in the wake of the disbandment, Abbath started a new band [[EgocentricTeamNaming in his name]] (which admittedly is a well known quantity in the world of black metal, so it's a sensible business decision) with bassist [[Music/{{Gorgoroth}} King ov Hell]] and drummer Baard Kolstad. Immortal's ninth album was apparently largely finished before the band's second disbandment, but it's not clear what will become of the material from these sessions.

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The band split up in 2003 for various personal reasons. Afterwards, Abbath formed the {{Supergroup}} I with various other musicians from the Norwegian black metal scene (including members of such groups as Music/{{Enslaved}} and Music/{{Gorgoroth}}) after Immortal's first disbandment; Music/{{Gorgoroth}}); the group released the album ''Between Two Worlds'' in 2006 to critical acclaim. The band's style is generally considered to be a fusion of BlackMetal with the style of Music/{{Motorhead}}, also referred to as "black and roll", and has been considered an influence on the later work of other bands, notably Music/{{Satyricon}}. Satyricon. I is currently on hiatus. hiatus.

Immortal reformed in 2007 for a string of live performances; after the reunion, the band decided to reform the band on a permanent basis, releasing the album ''All Shall Fall'' in 2009.

2009. However, internal conflicts between the band members resulting from tumultuous recording sessions for the band's ninth album resulted in a second disbandment in 2015. What exactly occurred during the sessions [[RashomonStyle seems to depend upon whom you believe]], but in the wake of the disbandment, Abbath started a new band [[EgocentricTeamNaming in his name]] (which admittedly is a well known quantity in the world of black metal, so it's a sensible business decision) with bassist [[Music/{{Gorgoroth}} King ov Hell]] and drummer Baard Kolstad. Immortal's ninth album was apparently largely finished before the band's second disbandment, but it's not clear what will become of the material from these sessions.

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The band split up in 2003 for various personal reasons. They reformed in 2007 for a string of live performances; after the reunion, the band decided to reform the band on a permanent basis, although the band has broken up once again due to conflict with the band members and the overall idea to move forward.

In 2015, the band temporarily disbanded again due to internal conflicts between members, with Abbath starting a new band [[EgocentricTeamNaming in his name]] with bassist [[Music/{{Gorgoroth}} King ov Hell]] and drummer Baard Kolstad. Immortal's ninth album has apparently been largely finished, but it's not clear if or when it will be released. However, on August 14, 2015, Demonaz and Horgh announced that the band will continue without Abbath.

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The band split up in 2003 for various personal reasons. They Abbath formed the {{Supergroup}} I with various other musicians from the Norwegian black metal scene (including members of such groups as Music/{{Enslaved}} and Music/{{Gorgoroth}}) after Immortal's first disbandment; the group released the album ''Between Two Worlds'' to critical acclaim. The band's style is generally considered to be a fusion of BlackMetal with the style of Music/{{Motorhead}}, also referred to as "black and roll", and has been considered an influence on the later work of other bands, notably Music/{{Satyricon}}. I is currently on hiatus. Immortal reformed in 2007 for a string of live performances; after the reunion, the band decided to reform the band on a permanent basis, although releasing the band has broken up once again due to conflict with the band members and the overall idea to move forward.

In 2015, the band temporarily disbanded again due to
album ''All Shall Fall'' in 2009.

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internal conflicts between members, with the band members resulting from tumultuous recording sessions for the band's ninth album resulted in a second disbandment in 2015. What exactly occurred during the sessions [[RashomonStyle seems to depend upon whom you believe]], but in the wake of the disbandment, Abbath starting started a new band [[EgocentricTeamNaming in his name]] (which admittedly is a well known quantity in the world of black metal, so it's a sensible business decision) with bassist [[Music/{{Gorgoroth}} King ov Hell]] and drummer Baard Kolstad. Immortal's ninth album has was apparently been largely finished, finished before the band's second disbandment, but it's not clear if or when it what will be released. However, on become of the material from these sessions.

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August 14, 2015, Demonaz and Horgh announced that they had reconvened the band and that they will continue without Abbath.
Abbath. Abbath's first, self-titled album was released in January 2016 through Season of Mist; Immortal's ninth album has been announced for release later in the same year through Nuclear Blast. It currently remains to be seen how much of the material on Immortal's upcoming album dates back to the sessions from when Abbath was still in the band, whether his contributions from those sessions will be subjected to an OrwellianRetcon, or indeed whether any of the material from Abbath's solo album is based on any of the material from the earlier sessions.
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One of the more famous BlackMetal bands, possibly the most famous behind {{Mayhem}} and the ones responsible for the genre's stereotypical image.

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One of the more famous BlackMetal bands, possibly the most famous behind {{Mayhem}} Music/{{Mayhem}}, and the ones responsible for the genre's stereotypical image.



Their earlier releases were in a more traditional black metal style, but as of the acclaimed ''At the Heart of Winter'', they have fused black metal with elements of German ThrashMetal. Euronymous of {{Mayhem}} is credited for getting Abbath into black metal and as a result, Abbath getting the infamous [[{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]] into black metal as well; however, despite these associations, Immortal's primary members have never been involved in the more controversial activities of some of their contemporaries in black metal, and their lyrics have also never involved the religious or political ideologies often associated with the scene.

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Their earlier releases were in a more traditional black metal style, but as of the acclaimed ''At the Heart of Winter'', they have fused black metal with elements of German ThrashMetal. Euronymous of {{Mayhem}} Music/{{Mayhem}} is credited for getting Abbath into black metal and as a result, Abbath getting the infamous [[{{Burzum}} [[Music/{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]] into black metal as well; however, despite these associations, Immortal's primary members have never been involved in the more controversial activities of some of their contemporaries in black metal, and their lyrics have also never involved the religious or political ideologies often associated with the scene.



* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: ''Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism'' is mostly a 9 as a result of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, ''Holocaust'' through ''Beasts'' are pure, ''hard'' 10 bordering on 11 (due to the [[EchoingAcoustics production]] and the near-constant use of blastbeats) and everything from ''At The Heart Of Winter'' on is in the 9-low 10 range.
* NewSoundAlbum: two of them- ''Pure Holocaust'' for introducing the insanely fast, blastbeat-heavy style they played for most of the 90s and ''At The Heart Of Winter'', which began the [[EpicRocking epic]], ThrashMetal-influenced era of their career.

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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: ''Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism'' is mostly a 9 as a result of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, ''Holocaust'' through ''Beasts'' are pure, ''hard'' 10 bordering on 11 (due to the [[EchoingAcoustics production]] and the near-constant use of blastbeats) and everything from ''At The the Heart Of of Winter'' on is in the 9-low 10 range.
* NewSoundAlbum: two of them- ''Pure Holocaust'' for introducing the insanely fast, blastbeat-heavy style they played for most of the 90s and ''At The the Heart Of of Winter'', which began the [[EpicRocking epic]], ThrashMetal-influenced era of their career.

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* TheBandMinusTheFace: When they reformed without Abbath.


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* StartMyOwn: Abbath started his own solo band after leaving Immortal.
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* LoudnessWar: This has affected all their releases from ''At the Heart of Winter'' onwards. Abbath's solo album is also affected, although not as badly as a lot of other modern examples.
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In 2015, the band temporarily disbanded again due to internal conflicts between members, with Abbath starting a new band [[IAmTheBand in his name]]. Immortal's ninth album has apparently been largely finished, but it's not clear if or when it will be released. However, on August 14, 2015, Demonaz and Horgh announced that the band will continue without Abbath.

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In 2015, the band temporarily disbanded again due to internal conflicts between members, with Abbath starting a new band [[IAmTheBand [[EgocentricTeamNaming in his name]].name]] with bassist [[Music/{{Gorgoroth}} King ov Hell]] and drummer Baard Kolstad. Immortal's ninth album has apparently been largely finished, but it's not clear if or when it will be released. However, on August 14, 2015, Demonaz and Horgh announced that the band will continue without Abbath.
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As of 2015, the band is now disbanded again due to internal conflicts between members; Abbath will be starting a new band with his name. Immortal's ninth album has apparently been largely finished, but it's not clear if or when it will be released. However, as of August 14, 2015, Demonaz and Horgh have announced that the band will continue without Abbath.

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As of In 2015, the band is now temporarily disbanded again due to internal conflicts between members; members, with Abbath will be starting a new band with [[IAmTheBand in his name.name]]. Immortal's ninth album has apparently been largely finished, but it's not clear if or when it will be released. However, as of on August 14, 2015, Demonaz and Horgh have announced that the band will continue without Abbath.

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As of 2015, the band is now disbanded again due to internal conflicts between members; Abbath will be starting a new band with his name. Immortal's ninth album has apparently been largely finished, but it's not clear if or when it will be released.

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As of 2015, the band is now disbanded again due to internal conflicts between members; Abbath will be starting a new band with his name. Immortal's ninth album has apparently been largely finished, but it's not clear if or when it will be released.
released. However, as of August 14, 2015, Demonaz and Horgh have announced that the band will continue without Abbath.



* Demonaz Doom Occulta (Harald Nævdal) - guitar (up to 1997), lyrics (switched to lyricist and band manager after his injury) (1989–2003, 2006–Present)
* Horgh (Reidar Horghagen) - drums (1996–2003, 2006–Present) (see also Music/{{Hypocrisy}})

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* Demonaz Doom Occulta (Harald Nævdal) - guitar (up to 1997), lyrics (switched to lyricist and band manager after his injury) (1989–2003, 2006–2-15
* Horgh (Reidar Horghagen) - drums (1996–2003, 2006–2015) (see also Music/{{Hypocrisy}})




Previous members:
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The band split up in 2003 for various personal reasons. They reformed in 2007 for a string of live performances; after the reunion, the band decided to reform the band on a permanent basis.

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The band split up in 2003 for various personal reasons. They reformed in 2007 for a string of live performances; after the reunion, the band decided to reform the band on a permanent basis.
basis, although the band has broken up once again due to conflict with the band members and the overall idea to move forward.



* Abbath Doom Occulta (Olve Eikemo) - vocals, bass guitar, guitar, keyboards, drums (1989–2003, 2006–present)
* Demonaz Doom Occulta (Harald Nævdal) - guitar (up to 1997), lyrics (switched to lyricist and band manager after his injury) (1989–2003, 2006–present)
* Horgh (Reidar Horghagen) - drums (1996–2003, 2006–present) (see also Music/{{Hypocrisy}})
* Apollyon (Ole Jørgen Moe) - bass guitar (2006–present)

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* Abbath Doom Occulta (Olve Eikemo) - vocals, bass guitar, guitar, keyboards, drums (1989–2003, 2006–present)
2006–2015)
* Demonaz Doom Occulta (Harald Nævdal) - guitar (up to 1997), lyrics (switched to lyricist and band manager after his injury) (1989–2003, 2006–present)
2006–2-15
* Horgh (Reidar Horghagen) - drums (1996–2003, 2006–present) 2006–2015) (see also Music/{{Hypocrisy}})
* Apollyon (Ole Jørgen Moe) - bass guitar (2006–present)
(2006–2015)

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* TokenGoodTeammate: They count to a tee, since they were neither involved in any of the controversial activities of their contemporaries, nor are their lyrics about anything political or religious, in the second wave of black metal.

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* TokenGoodTeammate: They count to a tee, since they were neither involved in any of the controversial activities of their contemporaries, nor are their lyrics about anything political or religious, in the second wave of RockMeAsmodeus: Averted, which is rare for second-wave black metal.


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* Horgh (Reidar Horghagen) - drums (1996–2003, 2006–present)

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* Horgh (Reidar Horghagen) - drums (1996–2003, 2006–present)2006–present) (see also Music/{{Hypocrisy}})
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* OldShame: Abbath ''did'' eventually describe "The Call of the Wintermoon" as a mistake that the band, as youths (Abbath in particular was still 18), let get rushed through production; it was filmed in just two hours and shown on television immediately after it was edited that day. Even during its first airing (a frame of which still seen in the version circulated on the Internet) did it get mocked by the presenter.

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* BlackMetalBlackMetal: The TropeCodifier in terms of fashion and imagery.
* CareerEndingInjury: Demonaz Doom Occulta was forced to stop playing guitar due to him developing tendinitis in his arms in 1997. He's still writes the band's lyrics and is considered an active member by the band itself


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* GrimUpNorth: Their primary lyrical content and band image.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Their first album was somewhat slower and more DeathMetal-influenced than their later work tended to be, and had a few acoustic guitar passages as well.


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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: ''Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism'' is mostly a 9 as a result of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, ''Holocaust'' through ''Beasts'' are pure, ''hard'' 10 bordering on 11 (due to the [[EchoingAcoustics production]] and the near-constant use of blastbeats) and everything from ''At The Heart Of Winter'' on is in the 9-low 10 range.
* NewSoundAlbum: two of them- ''Pure Holocaust'' for introducing the insanely fast, blastbeat-heavy style they played for most of the 90s and ''At The Heart Of Winter'', which began the [[EpicRocking epic]], ThrashMetal-influenced era of their career.
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* TokenGoodTeammate: They count to a tee, since they were neither involved in any of the controversial activities of their contemporaries, nor are their lyrics about anything political or religious, in the second wave of black metal.
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* CoverVersion - They covered "From the Dark Past" on the {{Mayhem}} tribute album ''Originators of the Northern Darkness''.
* EpicRocking - Most of their songs, especially since they shifted their style to Melodic Black/Thrash Metal on ''At the Heart of Winter''.
* HeavyMithril - Instead of focusing on Satanism like their peers, Immortal's lyrics focus on an imaginary world called Blashyrkh, plagued by war and suffering and ruled over by the Mighty Ravendark.
* OldShame - Abbath ''did'' eventually describe "The Call of the Wintermoon" as a mistake that the band, as youths (Abbath in particular was still 18), let get rushed through production; it was filmed in just two hours and shown on television immediately after it was edited that day. Even during its first airing (a frame of which still seen in the version circulated on the Internet) did it get mocked by the presenter.
* SeriousBusiness - Notably averted, at least for the band. Black metal bands tend to take themselves very seriously; Immortal do not.
* StageNames - Nealy every member past and present has one.

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* CoverVersion - CoverVersion: They covered "From the Dark Past" on the {{Mayhem}} tribute album ''Originators of the Northern Darkness''.
* EpicRocking - EpicRocking: Most of their songs, especially since they shifted their style to Melodic Black/Thrash Metal on ''At the Heart of Winter''.
* HeavyMithril - HeavyMithril: Instead of focusing on Satanism like their peers, Immortal's lyrics focus on an imaginary world called Blashyrkh, plagued by war and suffering and ruled over by the Mighty Ravendark.
* OldShame - OldShame: Abbath ''did'' eventually describe "The Call of the Wintermoon" as a mistake that the band, as youths (Abbath in particular was still 18), let get rushed through production; it was filmed in just two hours and shown on television immediately after it was edited that day. Even during its first airing (a frame of which still seen in the version circulated on the Internet) did it get mocked by the presenter.
* SeriousBusiness - SeriousBusiness: Notably averted, at least for the band. Black metal bands tend to take themselves very seriously; Immortal do not.
* StageNames - Nealy StageNames: Nearly every member past and present has one.
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* EpicRocking - Most of their songs.

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Please do not confuse them with [[Film/{{Immortal}} the film of the same name]] or, if such were even possible, "MyImmortal".
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny - The video for "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBdAY8eA9w The Call of the Wintermoon]]", which is also responsible for black metal's reputation among some as a "silly genre taken too seriously".
** As with many aspects of the band, though, "The Call of the Wintermoon" has been interpreted as a StealthParody of stupid black metal videos (generally featuring men in corpse paint running around a forest), of which there are many. It's just, "The Call of the Wintermoon" is the most
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation - Some have speculated that the band is actually a massive StealthParody of the black metal genre.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation - Some have speculated that the band is actually a massive StealthParody of the black metal genre.



* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: ''Blizzard Beasts'' was dedicated to Horgh, as after several years of inability to secure a committed drummer (and their attempts to record drums themselves criticized), they finally found someone capable of playing and anything and anytime. Fifteen years later, he's still in the band.



* FaceOfTheBand - Abbath.



* MemeticMutation - [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/immortal The band itself.]]
* {{Narm}} - Take your pick. [[http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x18/atsoyat/BlizzardBeasts.jpg Their]] [[http://www.immortal.nu/img/covers/big/2000_damned_in_black.jpg album]] [[http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/i/immortal/album-sons-of-northern-darkness.jpg art]], their lyrics ("These mountains which I heart"), their videos...
** Alternatively, NarmCharm.



* StageNames - Well, [[CaptainObvious yeah]].
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks - One of the reactions to their change to "blackened thrash" on ''At the Heart of Winter''; surprisingly, the reaction to the change is far less extreme than what happened with other metal bands that changed their style. Some of the initial reactions to ''All Shall Fall'' also had this attitude to them.

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* StageNames - Well, [[CaptainObvious yeah]].
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks - One of the reactions to their change to "blackened thrash" on ''At the Heart of Winter''; surprisingly, the reaction to the change is far less extreme than what happened with other metal bands that changed their style. Some of the initial reactions to ''All Shall Fall'' also had this attitude to them.
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** As with many aspects of the band, though, "The Call of the Wintermoon" has been interpreted as a StealthParody of stupid black metal videos (generally featuring men in corpse paint running around a forest), of which there are many. It's just, "The Call of the Wintermoon" is the most [[strike:in]]famous.

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** As with many aspects of the band, though, "The Call of the Wintermoon" has been interpreted as a StealthParody of stupid black metal videos (generally featuring men in corpse paint running around a forest), of which there are many. It's just, "The Call of the Wintermoon" is the most [[strike:in]]famous.most
[[strike:in]]famous.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: ''Blizzard Beasts'' was dedicated to Horgh, as after several years of inability to secure a committed drummer (and their attempts to record drums themselves criticized), they finally found someone capable of playing and anything and anytime. Fifteen years later, he's still in the band.
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* OldShame - Abbath ''did'' eventually describe "The Call of the Wintermoon" as a mistake that the band, as youths (Abbath in particular was still 18), let get rushed through production; it was filmed in just two hours and shown on television immediately after it was edited that day. Even during its first airing (a frame of which still seen in the version circulated on the Internet) did it get mocked by the presenter.
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YMMV sinkhole


* YourMileageMayVary - Totally awesome? Totally awesome despite the {{Narm}}? Too {{Narm}}ful to enjoy? Take your pick.

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