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* UncommonTime: ''Duh.'' It's prog. Were you really expecting something else?
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* UncommonTime: ''Duh.'' It's prog.Its {{prog|ressiveRock}}. Were you really expecting something else?
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They were originally known as The Brew, which consisted of guitarist Andrew Latimer, bassist Doug Ferguson, and drummer Andy Ward. They then hired keyboardist Peter Bardens and changed their name to Camel. They released four albums together as the original four. Andy Ward was pushing the band towards a more jazzier direction, which caused Ferguson to leave and be replaced by Richard Sinclair, an ex-Music/{{Caravan}} member; Mel Collins of Music/KingCrimson also joined. After their sixth album ''Breathless'' Peter Bardens left the band. After the release of two more albums, original drummer Andy Ward left the band, leaving only Latimer. Camel eventually fell into the same hole that many progressive rock bands found themselves in, by struggling to retain their roots while trying to appeal to the pop and mainstream audiences. In 1981, Camel disappeared from the scene until about a decade later when Latimer formed his own record producing company Camel Productions. They eventually returned to their prog-rock roots in ''Rajaz''. In 2002, Peter Bardens died of lung cancer and their latest album, ''A Nod and a Wink'' is dedicated to him.
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They were originally known as The Brew, which consisted of guitarist Andrew Latimer, bassist Doug Ferguson, and drummer Andy Ward. They then hired keyboardist Peter Bardens and changed their name to Camel. They released four albums together as the original four. Andy Ward was pushing the band towards a more jazzier direction, which caused Ferguson to leave and be replaced by Richard Sinclair, an ex-Music/{{Caravan}} member; Mel Collins of Music/KingCrimson also joined. After their sixth album ''Breathless'' Peter Bardens left the band. After the release of two more albums, original drummer Andy Ward left the band, leaving only Latimer. Camel eventually fell into the same hole that many progressive rock bands found themselves in, by struggling to retain their roots while trying to appeal to the pop and mainstream audiences. In 1981, Camel disappeared from the scene until about a decade later when Latimer formed his own record producing company Camel Productions. They eventually returned to their prog-rock roots in ''Rajaz''. In 2002, Peter Bardens died of lung cancer and their latest album, ''A Nod and a Wink'' is dedicated to him.
him. After a decade long hiatus from touring, the band has performed concerts fairly consistently since 2013, with Latimer, longtime bassist Colin Bass, Denis Clement on drums, and a rotating keyboard spot.
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* RevolvingDoorBand: From the 80s onward, Latimer and Colin Bass have been the only consistent members. Denis Clement has been playing drums since 2000.
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* NoEnding: The version of "Never Let Go" on the band's first live album abruptly ends, cutting out the final chorus and the guitar solo.
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* ''I Can See Your House From Here'' (1979)
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* ''I Can See Your House From from Here'' (1979)
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* Andrew Latimer - guitar, vocals, flute, recorder (1971-present)
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* Denis Clement - drums (2000-present)
* Colin Bass - bass (1979-1981, 1984-present)
* Denis Clement - drums (2000-present)
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* Andrew Latimer - guitar, vocals, flute, recorder (1971-present)
(1971–present)
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* Andy Ward - drums (1971-1981)
* Peter Bardens - keyboards (1971-1978; died 2002)
* Doug Ferguson - bass (1971-1977)
* Mel Collins - saxophones, flute (1977-1979)
* Richard Sinclair - bass (1977-1979)
* Jan Schelhaas - keyboards (1978-1981)
* Dave Sinclair - keyboards (1978-1979)
* Kit Watkins - keyboards, flute (1979-1981)
* Chris Rainbow - vocals, keyboards (1982-1991; died 2015)
* David Paton - bass (1982-1984)
* Peter Bardens - keyboards (1971-1978; died 2002)
* Doug Ferguson - bass (1971-1977)
* Mel Collins - saxophones, flute (1977-1979)
* Richard Sinclair - bass (1977-1979)
* Jan Schelhaas - keyboards (1978-1981)
* Dave Sinclair - keyboards (1978-1979)
* Kit Watkins - keyboards, flute (1979-1981)
* Chris Rainbow - vocals, keyboards (1982-1991; died 2015)
* David Paton - bass (1982-1984)
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* Andy Ward - drums (1971-1981)
(1971–81)
* Peter Bardens - keyboards(1971-1978; (1971–78; died 2002)
* Doug Ferguson - bass(1971-1977)
(1971–77)
* Mel Collins - saxophones, flute(1977-1979)
(1977–79)
* Richard Sinclair - bass(1977-1979)
(1977–79)
* Jan Schelhaas - keyboards(1978-1981)
(1978–81)
* Dave Sinclair - keyboards(1978-1979)
(1978–79)
* Kit Watkins - keyboards, flute(1979-1981)
(1979–81)
* Chris Rainbow - vocals, keyboards(1982-1991; (1982–91; died 2015)
* David Paton - bass(1982-1984)(1982–84)
* Peter Bardens - keyboards
* Doug Ferguson - bass
* Mel Collins - saxophones, flute
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* Jan Schelhaas - keyboards
* Dave Sinclair - keyboards
* Kit Watkins - keyboards, flute
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* Paul Burgess - drums (1984-1992)
* Mickey Simmonds - keyboards (1991-1992)
* Dave Stewart - drums (1997-2000)
* Guy [=LeBlanc=] - keyboards (2000-2015; died 2015)
* Mickey Simmonds - keyboards (1991-1992)
* Dave Stewart - drums (1997-2000)
* Guy [=LeBlanc=] - keyboards (2000-2015; died 2015)
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* Paul Burgess - drums (1984-1992)
(1984–92)
* Mickey Simmonds - keyboards(1991-1992)
(1991–92)
* Dave Stewart - drums(1997-2000)
(1997–2000)
* Guy [=LeBlanc=] - keyboards(2000-2015; (2000–15; died 2015)
* Mickey Simmonds - keyboards
* Dave Stewart - drums
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* Guy LeBlanc [=LeBlanc=] - keyboards (2000-2015; died 2015)
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Camel's Discography
* ''Camel''
* ''Mirage''
* ''Music Inspired by the Snow Goose''
* ''Moonmadness''
* ''Rain Dances''
* ''Breathless''
* ''I Can See Your House From Here''
* ''Nude''
* ''The Single Factor''
* ''Stationary Traveller''
* ''Dust and Dream''
* ''Harbour of Tears''
* ''Rajaz''
* ''A Nod and a Wink''
* ''Camel''
* ''Mirage''
* ''Music Inspired by the Snow Goose''
* ''Moonmadness''
* ''Rain Dances''
* ''Breathless''
* ''I Can See Your House From Here''
* ''Nude''
* ''The Single Factor''
* ''Stationary Traveller''
* ''Dust and Dream''
* ''Harbour of Tears''
* ''Rajaz''
* ''A Nod and a Wink''
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!!Discography:
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* ''Music Inspired by the Snow
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* ''Rain
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* ''I Can See Your House From
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* ''The Single
* ''Stationary
* ''Dust and
* ''Harbour of
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* ''A Nod and a
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!!Current Members:
* Andrew Latimer - guitar, vocals, flute, recorder (1971-present)
* Colin Bass - bass (1979-1981, 1984-present)
* Denis Clement - drums (2000-present)
* Jason Hart - keyboards (2013-present)
!!Former Members:
* Andy Ward - drums (1971-1981)
* Peter Bardens - keyboards (1971-1978; died 2002)
* Doug Ferguson - bass (1971-1977)
* Mel Collins - saxophones, flute (1977-1979)
* Richard Sinclair - bass (1977-1979)
* Jan Schelhaas - keyboards (1978-1981)
* Dave Sinclair - keyboards (1978-1979)
* Kit Watkins - keyboards, flute (1979-1981)
* Chris Rainbow - vocals, keyboards (1982-1991; died 2015)
* David Paton - bass (1982-1984)
* Ton Scherpenzeel - keyboards (1984, 1991, 1999)
* Paul Burgess - drums (1984-1992)
* Mickey Simmonds - keyboards (1991-1992)
* Dave Stewart - drums (1997-2000)
* Guy LeBlanc - keyboards (2000-2015; died 2015)
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** ''Nude'', the story of Hiroto Nooda, a popular story in Japanese culture
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** ''Nude'', the story of Hiroto Nooda, Hiroo Onoda, a popular story in Japanese culture
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* EpicRocking: This is expected because they are prog-rock, but their most well known is the thirteen minute epic, "Lady Fantasy". "Nimrodel" and "Lunar Sea" are not very far behind, at over nine minutes, and ''The Snow Goose'' could be considered an example as well, since most of the songs actually segue together seamlessly.
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* EpicRocking: This is expected because they are prog-rock, but their most well known is the thirteen minute epic, "Lady Fantasy". "Nimrodel" and "Nimrodel", "Lunar Sea" and "Ice" are not very far behind, at over nine minutes, and ''The Snow Goose'' could be considered an example as well, since most of the songs actually segue together seamlessly.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Never Let Go", "Lady Fantasy", "Echoes", and the entire ''Snow Goose'' album.
** "Ice"
** "Song Within a Song"
** The entire ''Mirage'' and ''Moonmadness'' albums probably deserve to be cited as well.
** "Ice"
** "Song Within a Song"
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** ''Ice''
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The cover for the album ''Mirage'' looks 'very similar to Camel cigarette cartons.
** ''Ice''
** ''Song Within A Song''
* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The cover for the album ''Mirage'' looks 'very similar to Camel cigarette cartons.
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* CrowningMusicofAwesome: ''Never CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Never Let Go'', ''Lady Fantasy'', ''Echoes'', Go", "Lady Fantasy", "Echoes", and the entire Snow Goose ''Snow Goose'' album.
**''Ice''
"Ice"
**''Song "Song Within A Song''
a Song"
** The entire ''Mirage'' and ''Moonmadness'' albums probably deserve to be cited as well.
* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The cover for the album ''Mirage'' looks'very very similar to Camel cigarette cartons.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The cover for the album ''Mirage'' looks
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* EpicRocking: This is expected because they are prog-rock, but their most well known is the thirteen minute epic, ''Lady Fantasy''"Lady Fantasy". "Nimrodel" and "Lunar Sea" are not very far behind, at over nine minutes, and ''The Snow Goose'' could be considered an example as well, since most of the songs actually segue together seamlessly.
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** Don't forget Colin Bass, who's been the band's bassist and vocalist since 1979 and an part of the creative force of the band.
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** Don't forget Colin Bass, who's been the band's bassist and vocalist since 1979 and an a part of the creative force of the band.
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** ''Dust and Dreams'', which is based off the book ''Literature/TheGrapesofWrath''
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** ''Dust and Dreams'', which is based off the book ''Literature/TheGrapesofWrath''''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath''
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They were originally known as The Brew, which consisted of guitarist Andrew Latimer, bassist Doug Ferguson, and drummer Andy Ward. They then hired keyboardist Peter Bardens and changed their name to Camel. They released four albums together as the original four. Andy Ward was pushing the band towards a more jazzier direction, which caused Ferguson to leave and was replaced by Mel Collins, an ex-Caravan member. After their sixth album ''Breathless'' Peter Bardens left the band. After the release of two more albums, original drummer Andy Ward left the band, leaving only Latimer. Camel eventually fell into the same hole that many progressive rock bands found themselves in, by struggling to retain their roots while trying to appeal to the pop and mainstream audiences. In 1981, Camel disappeared from the scene until about a decade later when Latimer formed his own record producing company Camel Productions. They eventually returned to their prog-rock roots in ''Rajaz''. In 2002, Peter Bardens died of lung cancer and their latest album, ''A Nod and a Wink'' is dedicated to him.
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They were originally known as The Brew, which consisted of guitarist Andrew Latimer, bassist Doug Ferguson, and drummer Andy Ward. They then hired keyboardist Peter Bardens and changed their name to Camel. They released four albums together as the original four. Andy Ward was pushing the band towards a more jazzier direction, which caused Ferguson to leave and was be replaced by Richard Sinclair, an ex-Music/{{Caravan}} member; Mel Collins, an ex-Caravan member.Collins of Music/KingCrimson also joined. After their sixth album ''Breathless'' Peter Bardens left the band. After the release of two more albums, original drummer Andy Ward left the band, leaving only Latimer. Camel eventually fell into the same hole that many progressive rock bands found themselves in, by struggling to retain their roots while trying to appeal to the pop and mainstream audiences. In 1981, Camel disappeared from the scene until about a decade later when Latimer formed his own record producing company Camel Productions. They eventually returned to their prog-rock roots in ''Rajaz''. In 2002, Peter Bardens died of lung cancer and their latest album, ''A Nod and a Wink'' is dedicated to him.
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They are often considered one of the most underrated bands in the progressive rock genre. More people started to check them out when Mikael Åkerfeldt of {{Opeth}} cited them as a major influence.
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They are often considered one of the most underrated bands in the progressive rock genre. More people started to check them out when Mikael Åkerfeldt of {{Opeth}} Music/{{Opeth}} cited them as a major influence.
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* VindicatedByHistory: While they enjoyed reasonable (but not huge) success back in the seventies, they've experienced a resurgence in popularity around the 2000's and are now often regarded as unfairly underrated.
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* VindicatedByHistory: While they enjoyed reasonable (but not huge) success back in the seventies, they've experienced a resurgence in popularity around the 2000's and are now often regarded as unfairly underrated.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: ''The Single Factor'' was made to fulfil the band's contractual obligations to their label, which also pressured them to make more hit single material. As a result, it sounds rather different than most of their albums
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** Also, the cover to ''I Can See Your House From Here'', which depicts a [[MessianicArchetype crucified astronaut]]
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[[caption-width-right:324:The 1975 lineup: Peter Bardens (keyboards), Doug Ferguson (bass), Andy Ward (drums, percussion), [[FaceOfTheBand Andrew Latimer]] (guitars, vocals)]]
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[[caption-width-right:324:The 1975 classic Camel lineup: Peter Bardens (keyboards), Doug Ferguson (bass), Andy Ward (drums, percussion), [[FaceOfTheBand Andrew Latimer]] (guitars, vocals)]]
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[[caption-width-right:324:The 1975 lineup: Peter Bardens (keyboards), Doug Ferguson (bass), Andy Ward (drums, percussion), Andrew Latimer (guitars, vocals)]]
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[[caption-width-right:324:The 1975 lineup: Peter Bardens (keyboards), Doug Ferguson (bass), Andy Ward (drums, percussion), [[FaceOfTheBand Andrew Latimer Latimer]] (guitars, vocals)]]
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[[caption-width-right:324:The 1975 lineup: Peter Bardens (keyboards), Doug Ferguson (bass), Andy Ward (drums, percussion), Andrew Latimer (guitars, vocals)]]
[[caption-width-right:324:The 1975 lineup: Peter Bardens (keyboards), Doug Ferguson (bass), Andy Ward (drums, percussion), Andrew Latimer (guitars, vocals)]]
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Camel presents tropes of:
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* ExectutiveMeddling: ''The Single Factor'' was made to fulfil the band's contractual obligations to their label, which also pressured them to make more hit single material. As a result, it sounds rather different than most of their albums
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* ExectutiveMeddling: ExecutiveMeddling: ''The Single Factor'' was made to fulfil the band's contractual obligations to their label, which also pressured them to make more hit single material. As a result, it sounds rather different than most of their albums
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** "Ice."
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** "Ice."
''Ice''
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* GreatestHitsAlbum: A whole bunch of them over the years, through most of out-of-print. The more recent ones have had the band try to avoid too much overlap between them by including lesser-known songs and live versions
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* GreatestHitsAlbum: A whole bunch of them over the years, through most are of out-of-print. The more recent ones have had the band try to avoid too much overlap between them by including lesser-known songs and live versions
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** ''Dust and Dreams'', which is based off the book ''[[GrapesofWrath The Grapes of Wrath]]''
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** ''Dust and Dreams'', which is based off the book ''[[GrapesofWrath The Grapes of Wrath]]''''Literature/TheGrapesofWrath''