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* BabiesMakeEverythingBetter: Averted in ''Invisible Circles''. The couple argues at the beginning ("Between Love and Fire", the man focused on his career while his wife believes a child can mend the growing rift between them. It doesn't.

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* BabiesMakeEverythingBetter: Averted in ''Invisible Circles''. The couple argues at the beginning ("Between Love and Fire", Fire"), the man focused on his career while his wife believes having a child can mend the growing rift between them. It doesn't.
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* BabiesMakeEverythingBetter: Averted in ''Invisible Circles''. The couple argues at the beginning ("Between Love and Fire", the man focused on his career while his wife believes a child can mend the growing rift between them. It doesn't.


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* GenerationXerox: The closing song of ''Invisible Circles'' in which the narrator, who's become a mother herself, believes she's bound to repeat her parents' mistakes.
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* LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition: The first four albums were rereleased in TheNewTens with a number of bonus tracks and session versions of most of the songs on a second disc.

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* TheCameo:
** "Beyond Me" from ''Prison of Desire'' features Sharon den Adel, frontwoman of Music/WithinTemptation.
** Some versions of ''Decipher'' have an alternate version of "Imperfect Tenses" featuring Damian Wilson (Music/{{Threshold}}, Music/{{Ayreon}}).
** Some versions of ''Remagine'' have an alternate version of "Face Your Demons" with Marco Hietala (Music/{{Tarot}}, Music/{{Nightwish}}).



* DeathGrowl

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* DeathGrowlDeathGrowl: Mostly from the male members of the band for SopranoAndGravel, though Floor herself can growl, too (though she's better known for this with "Yours Is an Empty Hope" with Music/{{Nightwish}}).



* MaleBandFemaleSinger: Thanks in large part to Music/{{Nightwish}}, which Floor joined permanently after After Forever's dissolution, it's quite common in SymphonicMetal to have a female lead singer for an otherwise all-male band.

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* LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition: The first four albums were rereleased in TheNewTens with a number of bonus tracks and session versions of most of the songs on a second disc.
* MaleBandFemaleSinger: Thanks in large part to Music/{{Nightwish}}, which Floor joined permanently after After Forever's dissolution, it's quite Forever, along with Music/{{Nightwish}} and Music/WithinTemptation, was one of the earliest examples of what has become a common format in SymphonicMetal SymphonicMetal, though it almost didn't happen: Floor originally auditioned as a ''backing'' vocalist but her performance convinced the band to have a female lead singer for an otherwise all-male band.make her the frontwoman.



* SurprisinglyGoodEnglish: Though their earlier work does show signs of OohMeAccentsSlipping (A good example is the pronunciation of "Amnesia" in "Intrinsic.")

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* SurprisinglyGoodEnglish: Though their earlier work does show signs of OohMeAccentsSlipping (A (a good example is the pronunciation of "Amnesia" in "Intrinsic.")



-->[[ArchnemesisDad My father's will in here, it doesn't mean a thing]]
-->[[AbusiveParents And I don't fear his violent rage]]
-->[[TheAce I am the queen; you know I'm loved by everyone]].

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-->[[ArchnemesisDad My father's will in here, it doesn't mean a thing]]
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thing]]\\
[[AbusiveParents
And I don't fear his violent rage]]
-->[[TheAce
rage]]\\
[[TheAce
I am the queen; you know I'm loved by everyone]].
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* MaleBandFemaleSinger: Thanks in large part to Music/{{Nightwish}}, which Floor joined permanently after After Forever's dissolution, it's quite common in SymphonicMetal to have a female lead singer for an otherwise all-male band.
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* WriteWhatYouKnow: Sander Gommans encountered many abused children while working as an art teacher, which inspired ''Invisible Circles''.
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* CoverVersion: "Who Wants to Live Forever" from the "Emphasis" single, and "One Day I'll Fly Away" and "The Evil That Men Do" from the ''Exordium'' EP. (Originally performed by Music/{{Queen}}, Music/RandyCrawford, and Music/IronMaiden respectively.)

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* CoverVersion: "Who Wants to Live Forever" from the "Emphasis" single, and "One Day I'll Fly Away" and "The Evil That Men Do" from the ''Exordium'' EP. (Originally performed by Music/{{Queen}}, Music/RandyCrawford, ''Randy Crawford,'' and Music/IronMaiden respectively.)
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* MyNaymeIs: There is only one "I" in ''Remagine''.

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After Forever (1995-2009) was a Dutch SymphonicMetal band. They started out playing DeathMetal under the name Apocalypse, but had shifted styles by the time they released their first album in 2000. (They did continue to use death metal-style HarshVocals in addition to operatic female vocals.) They released five albums before disbanding in 2009, due to burnout.

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After Forever (1995-2009) was a Dutch [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands Dutch]] SymphonicMetal band. They started out playing DeathMetal under the name Apocalypse, ''Apocalypse'', but had shifted styles by the time they released their first album in 2000. (They did continue to use death metal-style HarshVocals in addition to operatic female vocals.) They released five albums before disbanding in 2009, due to burnout.



Members (as of breakup):

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Members (as of breakup):breakup:)



!Tropes that apply to After Forever

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!Tropes that apply to After ForeverForever:



* CoverVersion: "Who Wants To Live Forever" from the "Emphasis" single, and "One Day I'll Fly Away" and "The Evil That Men Do" from the ''Exordium'' EP. (Originally performed by {{Queen}}, Randy Crawford, and Music/IronMaiden respectively.)

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* CoverVersion: "Who Wants To to Live Forever" from the "Emphasis" single, and "One Day I'll Fly Away" and "The Evil That Men Do" from the ''Exordium'' EP. (Originally performed by {{Queen}}, Randy Crawford, Music/{{Queen}}, Music/RandyCrawford, and Music/IronMaiden respectively.)



* DownerEnding: The two songs constituting "My Pledge of Allegiance", which deals with a wife planning to leave her husband.

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* DownerEnding: The two songs constituting "My Pledge of Allegiance", Allegiance," which deals with a wife planning to leave her husband.



* GreenAesop: "Equally Destructive"

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* GreenAesop: "Equally Destructive"Destructive."



* MesACrowd: Floor in the video for "Digital Deceit".
* ThePowerOfLove: "Energize Me".
* RockOpera: ''Invisible Circles''
* ReligionRantSong: ''Prison of Desire'' contained the introduction and first three chapters of "Embrace That Smothers," a musical suite which flew over onto {{Epica}}'s work through the Mark Jansen connection.

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* MesACrowd: Floor in the video for "Digital Deceit".
Deceit."
* ThePowerOfLove: "Energize Me".
Me."
* RockOpera: ''Invisible Circles''
Circles''.
* ReligionRantSong: ''Prison of Desire'' contained the introduction and first three chapters of "Embrace That Smothers," a musical suite which flew over onto {{Epica}}'s Music/{{Epica}}'s work through the Mark Jansen connection. connection.



* SiameseTwinSongs: "Intrinsic"/"Zenith" from ''Decipher''. The latter almost comes off as a separate song if it weren't for the fading "eeee" at the start.

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* SiameseTwinSongs: "Intrinsic"/"Zenith" "Intrinsic" / "Zenith" from ''Decipher''. The latter almost comes off as a separate song if it weren't for the fading "eeee" at the start.



* StartMyOwn: Mark Jansen (no relation to Floor), their original guitarist, left due to CreativeDifferences and went on to form {{Epica}}.
** Floor formed Music/{{Revamp}} sometime after the splitup.

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* StartMyOwn: Mark Jansen (no relation to Floor), their original guitarist, left due to CreativeDifferences and went on to form {{Epica}}.
Music/{{Epica}}.
** Floor formed Music/{{Revamp}} sometime after the splitup.split-up.



* SurprisinglyGoodEnglish: though their earlier work does show signs of OohMeAccentsSlipping (A good example is the pronunciation of "Amnesia" in "Intrinsic")
* SymphonicMetal

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* SurprisinglyGoodEnglish: though Though their earlier work does show signs of OohMeAccentsSlipping (A good example is the pronunciation of "Amnesia" in "Intrinsic")
"Intrinsic.")
* SymphonicMetal SymphonicMetal



-->[[TheAce I am the queen; you know I'm loved by everyone]]

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-->[[TheAce I am the queen; you know I'm loved by everyone]]everyone]].
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* DownerEnding: The two songs constituting "My Pledge of Allegiance", which deals with a wife planning to leave her husband.


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* ThePowerOfLove: "Energize Me".


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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: The girl in "Digital Deceit" turns to TheInternet to create a persona where she is popular and liked:
-->[[ArchnemesisDad My father's will in here, it doesn't mean a thing]]
-->[[AbusiveParents And I don't fear his violent rage]]
-->[[TheAce I am the queen; you know I'm loved by everyone]]

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* Joost van den Broek (keyboards)

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* Joost van den Broek (keyboards)
(leopards)



* Jack Driessen (keyboards, 1995-2000)
* Lando van Gils (keyboards, 2000-2004)

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* Jack Driessen (keyboards, (leopards, 1995-2000)
* Lando van Gils (keyboards, (leopards, 2000-2004)



* MesACrowd: Floor in the video for "Digital Deceit".



* SiameseTwinSongs: "Intrinsic"/"Zenith" from ''Decipher''. The latter almost comes off as a separate song if it weren't for the fading "eeee" at the start.



** Floor formed Music/{{Revamp}} sometime after they splitup.

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** Floor formed Music/{{Revamp}} sometime after they the splitup.


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* SurprisinglyGoodEnglish: though their earlier work does show signs of OohMeAccentsSlipping (A good example is the pronunciation of "Amnesia" in "Intrinsic")
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Afterwards, Floor announced a new band called Music/{{Revamp}}.

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Afterwards, Floor announced a new band called Music/{{Revamp}}.
Music/{{Revamp}} and ultimately went on to join Music/{{Nightwish}} as lead vocalist after Anette Olzon's departure.
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** Floor formed Music/{{Revamp}} sometime after they splitup.
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After Forever (1995-2009) was a Dutch SymphonicMetal band. They started out playing DeathMetal under the name Apocalypse, but had shifted styles by the time they released their first album in 2000. (They did continue to use death metal-style HarshVocals in addition to operatic female vocals.) They released five albums before disbanding in 2009.

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After Forever (1995-2009) was a Dutch SymphonicMetal band. They started out playing DeathMetal under the name Apocalypse, but had shifted styles by the time they released their first album in 2000. (They did continue to use death metal-style HarshVocals in addition to operatic female vocals.) They released five albums before disbanding in 2009.
2009, due to burnout.
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Afterwards, Floor announced a new band called Music/{{ReVamp}}.

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Afterwards, Floor announced a new band called Music/{{ReVamp}}.
Music/{{Revamp}}.
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Afterwards, Floor announced a new band called Music/ReVamp.

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Afterwards, Floor announced a new band called Music/ReVamp.
Music/{{ReVamp}}.
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* AGoodNameForARockBand: The band is named after a Music/BlackSabbath song.



* WriteWhatYouKnow: Sander Gommans encountered many abused children while working as an art teacher, which inspired ''Invisible Circles''.

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* TitledAfterTheSong: The band is named after a Music/BlackSabbath song.
* WriteWhatYouKnow: Sander Gommans encountered many abused children while working as an art teacher, which inspired ''Invisible Circles''.Circles''.
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The trope (which was renamed to Aloof Dark Haired Girl) is about more than appearance.


* TallDarkAndBishoujo: Floor Jansen definitely has the "tall" bit down, standing at a lofty ''six feet''.
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* AbusiveParents: The theme of ''Invisible Circles''. The workaholic father refuses to compromise his chances at his dream career to help raise his daughter, leaving the mother to give up her job completely to spend time with the girl. With the father rarely around, the mother resorts to taking out her frustrations on their daughter at first, and things go FromBadToWorse when the father walks out on both of them...

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* AbusiveParents: The theme of ''Invisible Circles''. The workaholic father refuses to compromise his chances at his dream career to help raise his daughter, leaving the mother to give up her job completely to spend time with the girl. With This progresses for several years with the father rarely around, around and the mother resorts to taking out her frustrations on their daughter the daughter, who retreats into an escapist fantasy online in search of positive attention she doesn't get at first, and home. But things go FromBadToWorse when an argument ends with the father walks walking out on both of them...

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After Forever (2000-2009) was a Dutch SymphonicMetal band. They started out playing DeathMetal under the name Apocalypse, but had shifted styles by the time they released their first album in 2000. (They did continue to use death metal-style HarshVocals in addition to operatic female vocals.) They released five albums before disbanding in 2009.

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After Forever (2000-2009) (1995-2009) was a Dutch SymphonicMetal band. They started out playing DeathMetal under the name Apocalypse, but had shifted styles by the time they released their first album in 2000. (They did continue to use death metal-style HarshVocals in addition to operatic female vocals.) They released five albums before disbanding in 2009.



Previous members:
* Joep Beckers (drums, 1995-2000)
* [[Music/{{Epica}} Mark Jansen]] (guitar/death growls, 1995-2002)
* Jack Driessen (keyboards, 1995-2000)
* Lando van Gils (keyboards, 2000-2004)



* AbusiveParents: The theme of ''Invisible Circles''.

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* AbusiveParents: The theme of ''Invisible Circles''. The workaholic father refuses to compromise his chances at his dream career to help raise his daughter, leaving the mother to give up her job completely to spend time with the girl. With the father rarely around, the mother resorts to taking out her frustrations on their daughter at first, and things go FromBadToWorse when the father walks out on both of them...



* CoverVersion: "Who Wants To Live Forever", "One Day I'll Fly Away", and "The Evil That Men Do". (Originally performed by {{Queen}}, Randy Crawford, and Music/IronMaiden respectively.)

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* CoverVersion: "Who Wants To Live Forever", Forever" from the "Emphasis" single, and "One Day I'll Fly Away", Away" and "The Evil That Men Do".Do" from the ''Exordium'' EP. (Originally performed by {{Queen}}, Randy Crawford, and Music/IronMaiden respectively.)



* GratuitousGreek: The cover to the SelfTitledAlbum [[http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/4/1/0/141096.jpg simply has the band's name and the letter Omega]]. [[HarsherInHindsight Accidentally symbolic]], as they weren't planning to break up after its release.

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* GratuitousGreek: The cover to the SelfTitledAlbum [[http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/4/1/0/141096.jpg simply has the band's name and the letter Omega]]. [[HarsherInHindsight Accidentally symbolic]], as they weren't planning to break up after its release.it was released.

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* AbusiveParents - The theme of ''Invisible Circles''.
* AGoodNameForARockBand - The band is named after a Music/BlackSabbath song.
* CoverVersion - "Who Wants To Live Forever", "One Day I'll Fly Away", and "The Evil That Men Do". (Originally performed by {{Queen}}, Randy Crawford, and Music/IronMaiden respectively.)

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* AbusiveParents - AbusiveParents: The theme of ''Invisible Circles''.
* AGoodNameForARockBand - AGoodNameForARockBand: The band is named after a Music/BlackSabbath song.
* CoverVersion - CoverVersion: "Who Wants To Live Forever", "One Day I'll Fly Away", and "The Evil That Men Do". (Originally performed by {{Queen}}, Randy Crawford, and Music/IronMaiden respectively.)



* EpicRocking: Dreamflight on their self titled album.
* GreenAesop - "Equally Destructive"
* RockOpera - ''Invisible Circles''
* ReligionRantSong: Their "Embrace That Smothers" which flew over onto {{Epica}}'s work through the Mark Jansen connection.
* SelfTitledAlbum - Oddly enough, their ''last'' album.
* SopranoAndGravel
* StartMyOwn - Mark Jansen (no relation to Floor), their original guitarist, left due to CreativeDifferences and went on to form {{Epica}}.
* StepfordSmiler - "Strong" is about a Type A.

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* EpicRocking: Dreamflight "Dreamflight" on their self titled album.album, clocking in at 11:09.
* GratuitousGreek: The cover to the SelfTitledAlbum [[http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/4/1/0/141096.jpg simply has the band's name and the letter Omega]]. [[HarsherInHindsight Accidentally symbolic]], as they weren't planning to break up after its release.
* GreenAesop: "Equally Destructive"
* IncrediblyLongNote: Not as long as examples by other bands, but Floor's final note on the fast-paced "Monolith of Doubt" is an A5 held for ten seconds.
* RockOpera: ''Invisible Circles''
* ReligionRantSong: ''Prison of Desire'' contained the introduction and first three chapters of "Embrace That Smothers," a musical suite which flew over onto {{Epica}}'s work through the Mark Jansen connection.

* GreenAesop - "Equally Destructive"
* RockOpera - ''Invisible Circles''
* ReligionRantSong: Their "Embrace That Smothers" which flew over onto {{Epica}}'s work through the Mark Jansen connection.
* SelfTitledAlbum -
SelfTitledAlbum: Oddly enough, their ''last'' album.
* SopranoAndGravel
SopranoAndGravel: With ''two'' gravel vocalists on ''Prison of Desire'' and ''Decipher'': Sander for grunts, and [[Music/{{Epica}} Mark Jansen]] for screams. On later albums, Mark was replaced by Bas, who provided clean male vocals for a unique variation on songs like "Between Love and Fire."
* StartMyOwn - StartMyOwn: Mark Jansen (no relation to Floor), their original guitarist, left due to CreativeDifferences and went on to form {{Epica}}.
* StepfordSmiler - StepfordSmiler: "Strong" is about a Type A.



* TallDarkAndBishoujo - Floor Jansen definitely has the "tall" bit down, standing at a lofty ''six feet''.
* WriteWhatYouKnow - Sander Gommans encountered many abused children while working as an art teacher, which inspired ''Invisible Circles''.

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* TallDarkAndBishoujo - TallDarkAndBishoujo: Floor Jansen definitely has the "tall" bit down, standing at a lofty ''six feet''.
* WriteWhatYouKnow - WriteWhatYouKnow: Sander Gommans encountered many abused children while working as an art teacher, which inspired ''Invisible Circles''.
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* TallDarkAndBishojou - Floor Jansen definitely has the "tall" bit down, standing at a lofty ''six feet''.

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* TallDarkAndBishojou TallDarkAndBishoujo - Floor Jansen definitely has the "tall" bit down, standing at a lofty ''six feet''.
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* ReligiousRantSong: Their "Embrace That Smothers" which flew over onto {{Epica}}'s work through the Mark Jansen connection.

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* ReligiousRantSong: ReligionRantSong: Their "Embrace That Smothers" which flew over onto {{Epica}}'s work through the Mark Jansen connection.



* SymphonicMetal

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* SymphonicMetalSymphonicMetal

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After Forever was a Dutch SymphonicMetal band. They started out playing DeathMetal under the name Apocalypse, but had shifted styles by the time they released their first album in 2000. (They did continue to use death metal-style HarshVocals in addition to operatic female vocals.) They released five albums before disbanding in 2009.

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After Forever (2000-2009) was a Dutch SymphonicMetal band. They started out playing DeathMetal under the name Apocalypse, but had shifted styles by the time they released their first album in 2000. (They did continue to use death metal-style HarshVocals in addition to operatic female vocals.) They released five albums before disbanding in 2009.


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* FaceOfTheBand - Floor, arguably. Helps that she's got one of the best voices in metal.

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* Floor Jansen (lead vocals)

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* Floor Jansen (lead (soprano vocals)


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* FaceOfTheBand - Floor, arguably. Helps that she's got one of the best voices in metal.


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* EpicRocking: Dreamflight on their self titled album.

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