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* At first, [[AlphaBitch Chloé]] [[stealing the earrings]] and becoming ''Webcomic/ScarletLady'' merely robs Chat Noir of a competent and caring partner, forcing him to shoulder most of the work when battling akumas while his cohort [[GloryHound steals the credit and the fame]]. But she vaults over the line in "Gamer", when she decides that the akuma offers the ''perfect'' opportunity to [[MurderTheHypotenuse get rid of Marinette]]. Not only does she use her yo-yo to trip Marinette while she's trying to run away, once Chat saves her, she leads Gamer on a merry chase after the pair, ruining their attempts to shake him off.
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* At first, [[AlphaBitch Chloé]] [[stealing stealing the earrings]] earrings and becoming ''Webcomic/ScarletLady'' merely robs Chat Noir of a competent and caring partner, forcing him to shoulder most of the work when battling akumas while his cohort [[GloryHound steals the credit and the fame]]. But she vaults over the line in "Gamer", when she decides that the akuma offers the ''perfect'' opportunity to [[MurderTheHypotenuse get rid of Marinette]]. Not only does she use her yo-yo to trip Marinette while she's trying to run away, once Chat saves her, she leads Gamer on a merry chase after the pair, ruining their attempts to shake him off.
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* ''Fanfic/NarutoAsunder'': The reason Naruto kills Sasuke. Partly due to a JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind on Sasuke's insane mind and partly...:
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* ''Fanfic/NarutoAsunder'': Sasuke in ''Fanfic/{{Eroninja}}'' is finally considered beyond redemption by Naruto when he tries to kill his own mother for having informed Konoha of the Uchiha clan's coup. After saving Mikoto, Naruto stops trying to bring Sasuke back to Konoha and starts trying to kill him.
** Other Konoha shinobi consider Sasuke beyond redemption when, during a plot to break out several high security prisoners, Sasuke has [[spoiler:Iruka]] killed, mostly because while every other death is to insure the plan's success, [[spoiler:Iruka's]] was only because Sasuke knew it would hurt Naruto.
* ''Fanfic/{{Hakumei}}'':
** Danzo crosses it by killing the Third Hokage in the first chapter.
** Yumi crosses it by killing Hana in order to get the Mangekyou Sharingan in Chapter 32. The only thing that may bring her back is that she promised Hana to not kill Kiba, who overheard her do it.
* ''Naruto Asunder'': The reason Naruto kills Sasuke. Partly due to a JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind on Sasuke's insane mind and partly...:
** Other Konoha shinobi consider Sasuke beyond redemption when, during a plot to break out several high security prisoners, Sasuke has [[spoiler:Iruka]] killed, mostly because while every other death is to insure the plan's success, [[spoiler:Iruka's]] was only because Sasuke knew it would hurt Naruto.
* ''Fanfic/{{Hakumei}}'':
** Danzo crosses it by killing the Third Hokage in the first chapter.
** Yumi crosses it by killing Hana in order to get the Mangekyou Sharingan in Chapter 32. The only thing that may bring her back is that she promised Hana to not kill Kiba, who overheard her do it.
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* Sasuke in ''Fanfic/{{Eroninja}}'' is finally considered beyond redemption by Naruto when he tries to kill his own mother for having informed Konoha of the Uchiha clan's coup. After saving Mikoto, Naruto stops trying to bring Sasuke back to Konoha and starts trying to kill him.
** Other Konoha shinobi consider Sasuke beyond redemption when, during a plot to break out several high security prisoners, Sasuke has [[spoiler:Iruka]] killed, mostly because while every other death is to insure the plan's success, [[spoiler:Iruka's]] was only because Sasuke knew it would hurt Naruto.
* ''Fanfic/{{Hakumei}}'':
** Danzo crosses it by killing the Third Hokage in the first chapter.
** Yumi crosses it by killing Hana in order to get the Mangekyou Sharingan in Chapter 32. The only thing that may bring her back is that she promised Hana to not kill Kiba, who overheard her do it.
** Other Konoha shinobi consider Sasuke beyond redemption when, during a plot to break out several high security prisoners, Sasuke has [[spoiler:Iruka]] killed, mostly because while every other death is to insure the plan's success, [[spoiler:Iruka's]] was only because Sasuke knew it would hurt Naruto.
* ''Fanfic/{{Hakumei}}'':
** Danzo crosses it by killing the Third Hokage in the first chapter.
** Yumi crosses it by killing Hana in order to get the Mangekyou Sharingan in Chapter 32. The only thing that may bring her back is that she promised Hana to not kill Kiba, who overheard her do it.
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* Sasuke in ''Fanfic/{{Eroninja}}'' is finally considered beyond redemption by Naruto ''Fanfic/TruePotential'':
** During the Kiri Civil War arc, the "bloodline hunter" Karitoriki quickly shows himself to be an irredeemable monster when not only does hetries whip up a civilian village's toxic hatred of people with Bloodline Limits, but he takes out five captive and brutalizes Bloodline-bearing people for a public execution. When Shikamaru and Haku show up to save them and take him out, he gleefully activates a series of explosive seals on the five captives' hearts that explode their chests and kill his own mother for having informed Konoha of them all instantly, with the Uchiha clan's coup. After saving Mikoto, Naruto stops trying to bring Sasuke back to Konoha victims including a surviving member of Haku's clan and starts trying to kill him.
** Other Konoha shinobi consider Sasuke beyond redemption when, during[[WouldHurtAChild a plot to break out several high security prisoners, Sasuke has [[spoiler:Iruka]] killed, mostly because while every other death is to insure the plan's success, [[spoiler:Iruka's]] was only because Sasuke knew it would hurt Naruto.
* ''Fanfic/{{Hakumei}}'':
** Danzo crosses it by killing the Third Hokage in the first chapter.
** Yumi crosses it by killing Hana in order to get the Mangekyou Sharingan in Chapter 32. The only thing that may bring her back is that shesobbing, terrified 8-year-old girl]] whom Shikamaru [[HopeSpot had just promised Hana to not get to safety and freedom]].
** At the end of the Takigakure Invasion arc, Suien and Kakuzu, upon realizing their side is losing and they're likely going to die, both decide to try and killKiba, who overheard as many Taki civilians as they can before they go down. While Anko manages to stop and kill Suien before he can pull it off, Naruto and Hinata aren't so lucky with Kakuzu.
** In an effort to ruin Jiraiya's attempts to negotiate peace with the Fourth Raikage and Kumogakure, Danzo has Fū Yamanaka and Torune Aburame follow Jiraiya's group to the meeting ground, murder the Raikage's trusted bodyguard Cee, and try their damndest to kill him as well (or, failing that, turn him even further against Konoha).
** The battle between Onoki and Rōshi vs. Suzumebachi and Edo-Tensei Mū sees multiple crossings of the MEH. First, Suzumebachi bringing along the Second Tsuchikage as a revenant is seen by Onoki as a disgusting violation (and even Mū himself thinks of the whole affair as "morally bankrupt", even if he doesn't agree with the direction Onoki has taken the village in). Then, when Rōshi is beaten down, he pleads with Son Goku, the 4-Tailed Beast, for more power, even using his name. Instead, the 4-Tails refuses and forces Rōshi into unconsciousness out of petty spite, laughing as he leaves his Host unable to help and stop what comes next. That "comes next" being Suzumebachi, after winning by exhausting Onoki into unconsciousness, [[spoiler:coldly murdering him. This is also seen in-universe as a MEH crossing - the entirety of the spectating population of Iwa, even the plentiful people who'd been supporting Suzumebachi's bid for the Tsuchikage position, go mute with shocked horror and are soon baying for herdo it.
blood and cheering on Kurotsuchi as she rushes Suzumebachi in a grief-stricken rage.]]
** During the Kiri Civil War arc, the "bloodline hunter" Karitoriki quickly shows himself to be an irredeemable monster when not only does he
** Other Konoha shinobi consider Sasuke beyond redemption when, during
* ''Fanfic/{{Hakumei}}'':
** Danzo crosses it by killing the Third Hokage in the first chapter.
** Yumi crosses it by killing Hana in order to get the Mangekyou Sharingan in Chapter 32. The only thing that may bring her back is that she
** At the end of the Takigakure Invasion arc, Suien and Kakuzu, upon realizing their side is losing and they're likely going to die, both decide to try and kill
** In an effort to ruin Jiraiya's attempts to negotiate peace with the Fourth Raikage and Kumogakure, Danzo has Fū Yamanaka and Torune Aburame follow Jiraiya's group to the meeting ground, murder the Raikage's trusted bodyguard Cee, and try their damndest to kill him as well (or, failing that, turn him even further against Konoha).
** The battle between Onoki and Rōshi vs. Suzumebachi and Edo-Tensei Mū sees multiple crossings of the MEH. First, Suzumebachi bringing along the Second Tsuchikage as a revenant is seen by Onoki as a disgusting violation (and even Mū himself thinks of the whole affair as "morally bankrupt", even if he doesn't agree with the direction Onoki has taken the village in). Then, when Rōshi is beaten down, he pleads with Son Goku, the 4-Tailed Beast, for more power, even using his name. Instead, the 4-Tails refuses and forces Rōshi into unconsciousness out of petty spite, laughing as he leaves his Host unable to help and stop what comes next. That "comes next" being Suzumebachi, after winning by exhausting Onoki into unconsciousness, [[spoiler:coldly murdering him. This is also seen in-universe as a MEH crossing - the entirety of the spectating population of Iwa, even the plentiful people who'd been supporting Suzumebachi's bid for the Tsuchikage position, go mute with shocked horror and are soon baying for her
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* ''Fanfic/AbraxasHrodvitnon'':
** Alan Jonah crosses it when he uses [[TwoBeingsOneBody San and Vivienne Graham]] as guinea pigs for brutal experiments including testing ammunition on them due to their Ghidorah-derived HealingFactor. InUniverse, Vivienne certainly feels he's absolutely crossed the line when it's revealed in Chapter 6 that he's been [[spoiler:using the mercenaries' refugee labor as unwilling test-subjects]] for experiments with Ghidorah's DNA, [[spoiler:turning them into zombies]].
** With San's brothers Ichi and Ni (Ghidorah's [[MultipleHeadCase middle and right heads]] respectively), it's definitely not a case of if but ''when'' they cross it. They destroyed numerous alien worlds before arriving on ancient Earth (San and Ni/Elder Brother could probably be excluded from this MEH, due to San's [[TheAtoner Atoner]] CharacterDevelopment coupled with the implication Ichi/Eldest Brother was the trio's leader); Ichi/Eldest Brother ordered San to transform Vivienne into an InhumanHuman ArtificialHybrid with the intention of granting her a FateWorseThanDeath as extremely sadistic DisproportionateRetribution for her ''accidentally'' pressing Ichi's TraumaButton; [[spoiler:and Ghidorah has been attempting vicious MindRape and {{Breaking Speech}}es on Viv and San ever since its minds resurrected, never mind Ichi having [=MaNi=] inflict ColdBloodedTorture on them]].
*** The absolute latest possible MEH crossing for [=MaNi=]/Elder Brother is when [[spoiler:he mercilessly and ferociously tortures Vivienne while using RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil psychology, and he attempts to tear her and San apart so that he can kill San in front of her in the same way that Ichi/Eldest Brother originally killed Vivienne]].
** ''Fanfic/AbraxasEmptyFullness'': If [[AbusivePrecursors the Makers]] who oversaw [[StartOfDarkness Ghidorah's creation]] didn't cross it by ''brutally'' converting the Dorats into their three-headed form, then they crossed it by setting the resulting PersonOfMassDestruction that's capable of ''single-handedly erasing civilizations and most other life on a planet-wide scale'' on a rival planet to commit [[FinalSolution total genocide]] against the inhabitants.
* ''Fanfic/AbraxasHrodvitnon'':
** Alan Jonah crosses it when he uses [[TwoBeingsOneBody San and Vivienne Graham]] as guinea pigs for brutal experiments including testing ammunition on them due to their Ghidorah-derived HealingFactor. InUniverse, Vivienne certainly feels he's absolutely crossed the line when it's revealed in Chapter 6 that he's been [[spoiler:using the mercenaries' refugee labor as unwilling test-subjects]] for experiments with Ghidorah's DNA, [[spoiler:turning them into zombies]].
** With San's brothers Ichi and Ni (Ghidorah's [[MultipleHeadCase middle and right heads]] respectively), it's definitely not a case of if but ''when'' they cross it. They destroyed numerous alien worlds before arriving on ancient Earth (San and Ni/Elder Brother could probably be excluded from this MEH, due to San's [[TheAtoner Atoner]] CharacterDevelopment coupled with the implication Ichi/Eldest Brother was the trio's leader); Ichi/Eldest Brother ordered San to transform Vivienne into an InhumanHuman ArtificialHybrid with the intention of granting her a FateWorseThanDeath as extremely sadistic DisproportionateRetribution for her ''accidentally'' pressing Ichi's TraumaButton; [[spoiler:and Ghidorah has been attempting vicious MindRape and {{Breaking Speech}}es on Viv and San ever since its minds resurrected, never mind Ichi having [=MaNi=] inflict ColdBloodedTorture on them]].
*** The absolute latest possible MEH crossing for [=MaNi=]/Elder Brother is when [[spoiler:he mercilessly and ferociously tortures Vivienne while using RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil psychology, and he attempts to tear her and San apart so that he can kill San in front of her in the same way that Ichi/Eldest Brother originally killed Vivienne]].
** ''Fanfic/AbraxasEmptyFullness'': If [[AbusivePrecursors the Makers]] who oversaw [[StartOfDarkness Ghidorah's creation]] didn't cross it by ''brutally'' converting the Dorats into their three-headed form, then they crossed it by setting the resulting PersonOfMassDestruction that's capable of ''single-handedly erasing civilizations and most other life on a planet-wide scale'' on a rival planet to commit [[FinalSolution total genocide]] against the inhabitants.
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* ''Fanfic/AbraxasHrodvitnon'':
** Alan Jonah crosses it when he uses [[TwoBeingsOneBody San and Vivienne Graham]] as guinea pigs for brutal experiments including testing ammunition on them due to their Ghidorah-derived HealingFactor. InUniverse, Vivienne certainly feels he's absolutely crossed the line when it's revealed in Chapter 6 that he's been [[spoiler:using the mercenaries' refugee labor as unwilling test-subjects]] for experiments with Ghidorah's DNA, [[spoiler:turning them into zombies]].
** It's definitely not a case of if but ''when'' Ichi and Ni (the [[MultipleHeadCase middle and right heads]] on Ghidorah) cross the line. The fic's plot occurs partly because Ichi, in response to Vivienne pushing his TraumaButton without even realizing it while Ghidorah was inert in the Antarctic ice, orders San (the left head) to forcibly revive her inside his head and [[ArtificialHybrid remake her into a part-Ghidorah monster]] as a {{fate worse than death}}. [[spoiler:Once Ghidorah at large starts coming back to life, Ichi and Ni episodically {{mind rape}} the transhuman Vivienne and the redeemed San, they happily exploit [[UndeadAbomination the Many]]'s slaughter and assimilation of humans and animals into their psychotic HiveMind and [[BodyHorror undead biomass]] (which even San finds appalling, comparing it to what the Makers did to them in their StartOfDarkness). They're completely over the line when they capture Vivienne, and Ni as [=MaNi=] gleefully tortures Vivienne and attempts to [[ForcedToWatch kill San]] while Ichi gleefully watches and taunts them]].
** ''Fanfic/AbraxasEmptyFullness'': If [[AbusivePrecursors the Makers]] who oversaw [[StartOfDarkness Ghidorah's creation]] didn't cross it by ''brutally'' converting the Dorats into their three-headed form, then they crossed it by setting the resulting PersonOfMassDestruction that's capable of ''single-handedly erasing civilizations and most other life on a planet-wide scale'' on a rival planet to commit [[FinalSolution total genocide]] against the inhabitants.
* ''Fanfic/AbraxasHrodvitnon'':
** Alan Jonah crosses it when he uses [[TwoBeingsOneBody San and Vivienne Graham]] as guinea pigs for brutal experiments including testing ammunition on them due to their Ghidorah-derived HealingFactor. InUniverse, Vivienne certainly feels he's absolutely crossed the line when it's revealed in Chapter 6 that he's been [[spoiler:using the mercenaries' refugee labor as unwilling test-subjects]] for experiments with Ghidorah's DNA, [[spoiler:turning them into zombies]].
** It's definitely not a case of if but ''when'' Ichi and Ni (the [[MultipleHeadCase middle and right heads]] on Ghidorah) cross the line. The fic's plot occurs partly because Ichi, in response to Vivienne pushing his TraumaButton without even realizing it while Ghidorah was inert in the Antarctic ice, orders San (the left head) to forcibly revive her inside his head and [[ArtificialHybrid remake her into a part-Ghidorah monster]] as a {{fate worse than death}}. [[spoiler:Once Ghidorah at large starts coming back to life, Ichi and Ni episodically {{mind rape}} the transhuman Vivienne and the redeemed San, they happily exploit [[UndeadAbomination the Many]]'s slaughter and assimilation of humans and animals into their psychotic HiveMind and [[BodyHorror undead biomass]] (which even San finds appalling, comparing it to what the Makers did to them in their StartOfDarkness). They're completely over the line when they capture Vivienne, and Ni as [=MaNi=] gleefully tortures Vivienne and attempts to [[ForcedToWatch kill San]] while Ichi gleefully watches and taunts them]].
** ''Fanfic/AbraxasEmptyFullness'': If [[AbusivePrecursors the Makers]] who oversaw [[StartOfDarkness Ghidorah's creation]] didn't cross it by ''brutally'' converting the Dorats into their three-headed form, then they crossed it by setting the resulting PersonOfMassDestruction that's capable of ''single-handedly erasing civilizations and most other life on a planet-wide scale'' on a rival planet to commit [[FinalSolution total genocide]] against the inhabitants.
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For those times when a [[FanWorks fanfic writer]] wants to show [[MoralEventHorizon just how far a character can go before becoming irredeemable]], look no further than the examples below.
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* ''Fanfic/AlexMovieVillain'': The titular antagonist has crossed many lines, but the biggest one is when it turns out she's responsible for Marceline and Princess Bubblegum's strained relationship.
* ''Fanfic/AlexMovieVillain'': The titular antagonist has crossed many lines, but the biggest one is when it turns out she's responsible for Marceline and Princess Bubblegum's strained relationship.
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** [[spoiler:Megatron had already crossed it when he poisoned Cybertron's core with Dark Energon and rendered it uninhabitable with no remorse, but he truly crosses the line when he orchestrates the SAZ Massacre. He twists the knife even further by using a Pretender drone disguised as Euphemia to carry it out.]]
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** [[spoiler:Megatron [[spoiler: [[Characters/CodePrimeMegatron Megatron]] had already crossed it when he poisoned Cybertron's core with Dark Energon and rendered it uninhabitable with no remorse, but he truly crosses the line when he orchestrates the SAZ Massacre. He twists the knife even further by using a Pretender drone disguised as Euphemia to carry it out.]]
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* At first, [[AlphaBitch Chloé]] [[ForWantOfANail stealing the earrings]] and becoming ''Webcomic/ScarletLady'' merely robs Chat Noir of a competent and caring partner, forcing him to shoulder most of the work when battling akumas while his cohort [[GloryHound steals the credit and the fame]]. But she vaults over the line in "Gamer", when she decides that the akuma offers the ''perfect'' opportunity to [[MurderTheHypotenuse get rid of Marinette]]. Not only does she use her yo-yo to trip Marinette while she's trying to run away, once Chat saves her, she leads Gamer on a merry chase after the pair, ruining their attempts to shake him off.
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* At first, [[AlphaBitch Chloé]] [[ForWantOfANail stealing the earrings]] and becoming ''Webcomic/ScarletLady'' merely robs Chat Noir of a competent and caring partner, forcing him to shoulder most of the work when battling akumas while his cohort [[GloryHound steals the credit and the fame]]. But she vaults over the line in "Gamer", when she decides that the akuma offers the ''perfect'' opportunity to [[MurderTheHypotenuse get rid of Marinette]]. Not only does she use her yo-yo to trip Marinette while she's trying to run away, once Chat saves her, she leads Gamer on a merry chase after the pair, ruining their attempts to shake him off.
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* ''Fanfic/TheSunWillComeUpAndTheSeasonsWillChange'': Dana Summer is shown to be an abusive mother to her daughter Mary because Mary has autism. Dana refuses to understand her daughter and blames her for all of her problems. Dana tries to make her daughter's behavior and autism worse than it is and tries to find ways to cure Mary's autism; even if there is no cure, some of those so-called cures are dangerous, and there are ways to deal with them. But in chapter 9, when Dana's husband Todd and their older daughter Reagan read Dana's blog, they were horrified and outraged to learn how much Dana hated Mary, that Dana actually believed that Mary would grow up to be a potential school shooter, and is even considering having Mary sterilized once she turns 18.
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* ''Fanfic/TheSunWillComeUpAndTheSeasonsWillChange'': Dana ''Fanfic/TheSunWillComeUpAndTheSeasonsWillChange'':
**Dana Summer is shown to be an abusive mother to her daughter Mary because Mary has autism. Dana refuses to understand her daughter and blames her for all of her problems. Dana tries to make her daughter's behavior and autism worse than it is and tries to find ways to cure Mary's autism; even if there is no cure, some of those so-called cures are dangerous, and there are ways to deal with them. But in chapter 9, when Dana's husband Todd and their older daughter Reagan read Dana's blog, they were horrified and outraged to learn how much Dana hated Mary, that Dana actually believed that Mary would grow up to be a potential school shooter, and is even considering having Mary sterilized once she turns 18.
**Nora crosses it in Chapter 19 when she attempted to kill her autistic brother. Twice. On the same night. (Once by leaving him out in the cold in -2 degree weather without a coat on, and then by beating his head on the back of a table when their parents confront her.) If not then, then definetly in the following chapter when she gives Mary a BreakingSpeech and shooting her in the shoulder, leaving her for dead while taking Blanca hostage.
**Dana Summer is shown to be an abusive mother to her daughter Mary because Mary has autism. Dana refuses to understand her daughter and blames her for all of her problems. Dana tries to make her daughter's behavior and autism worse than it is and tries to find ways to cure Mary's autism; even if there is no cure, some of those so-called cures are dangerous, and there are ways to deal with them. But in chapter 9, when Dana's husband Todd and their older daughter Reagan read Dana's blog, they were horrified and outraged to learn how much Dana hated Mary, that Dana actually believed that Mary would grow up to be a potential school shooter, and is even considering having Mary sterilized once she turns 18.
**Nora crosses it in Chapter 19 when she attempted to kill her autistic brother. Twice. On the same night. (Once by leaving him out in the cold in -2 degree weather without a coat on, and then by beating his head on the back of a table when their parents confront her.) If not then, then definetly in the following chapter when she gives Mary a BreakingSpeech and shooting her in the shoulder, leaving her for dead while taking Blanca hostage.
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** [[spoiler:Although he's probably crossed it long ago, what makes Belos truly irredeemable here is when he manipulates Sasha and destroys her personal relationships in the process.]]
** [[spoiler:Odalys crossed it when she imposed high student debt to prevent other species or low-class newts from entering Newtopia University. And if that didn't do it, then her participation in the experiments on toads and witches (including [[WouldHurtAChild her sadistic enjoyment in hurting Amity]]) certainly did.]]
** [[spoiler:Andrias seems to have crossed it when he blew up Wartwood, killing off half the resistance.]]
** [[spoiler:Although he's probably crossed it long ago, what makes Belos truly irredeemable here is when he manipulates Sasha and destroys her personal relationships in the process.]]
** [[spoiler:Odalys crossed it when she imposed high student debt to prevent other species or low-class newts from entering Newtopia University. And if that didn't do it, then her participation in the experiments on toads and witches (including [[WouldHurtAChild her sadistic enjoyment in hurting Amity]]) certainly did.]]
** [[spoiler:Andrias seems to have crossed it when he blew up Wartwood, killing off half the resistance.]]
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** Alan Jonah crosses it when he uses [[TwoBeingsOneBody San and Vivienne Graham]] as guinea pigs for testing ammunition due to their Ghidorah-derived HealingFactor. InUniverse, Vivienne certainly feels he's absolutely crossed the line when it's revealed in Chapter 6 that he's been [[spoiler:using the mercenaries' refugee labor as unwilling test-subjects]] for experiments with Ghidorah's DNA.
** With San's brothers Ichi and Ni (Ghidorah's [[MultipleHeadCase middle and right heads]]), it's definitely not a case of if but ''when'' they cross it. They destroyed numerous alien worlds before arriving on ancient Earth (San and Ni/Elder Brother could probably be excluded from this MEH, due to San's [[TheAtoner Atoner]] CharacterDevelopment coupled with the implication Ichi/Eldest Brother was the trio's leader); Ichi/Eldest Brother ordered San to transform Vivienne into an InhumanHuman ArtificialHybrid with the intention of granting her a FateWorseThanDeath as an extremely sadistic DisproportionateRetribution for her unknowingly hitting Ichi's BerserkButton; [[spoiler:and Ghidorah has been attempting vicious MindRape and BreakThemByTalking on Viv and San ever since its minds have resurrected, never mind it having [=MaNi=] inflict ColdBloodedTorture on them]].
*** The absolute latest possible MEH crossing for [=MaNi=]/Elder Brother is when [[spoiler:he mercilessly and ferociously tortures Vivienne while using RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil psychology, and he attempts to kill San in front of her in the same way that Ichi/Eldest Brother originally killed Vivienne]].
** With San's brothers Ichi and Ni (Ghidorah's [[MultipleHeadCase middle and right heads]]), it's definitely not a case of if but ''when'' they cross it. They destroyed numerous alien worlds before arriving on ancient Earth (San and Ni/Elder Brother could probably be excluded from this MEH, due to San's [[TheAtoner Atoner]] CharacterDevelopment coupled with the implication Ichi/Eldest Brother was the trio's leader); Ichi/Eldest Brother ordered San to transform Vivienne into an InhumanHuman ArtificialHybrid with the intention of granting her a FateWorseThanDeath as an extremely sadistic DisproportionateRetribution for her unknowingly hitting Ichi's BerserkButton; [[spoiler:and Ghidorah has been attempting vicious MindRape and BreakThemByTalking on Viv and San ever since its minds have resurrected, never mind it having [=MaNi=] inflict ColdBloodedTorture on them]].
*** The absolute latest possible MEH crossing for [=MaNi=]/Elder Brother is when [[spoiler:he mercilessly and ferociously tortures Vivienne while using RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil psychology, and he attempts to kill San in front of her in the same way that Ichi/Eldest Brother originally killed Vivienne]].
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** Alan Jonah crosses it when he uses [[TwoBeingsOneBody San and Vivienne Graham]] as guinea pigs for brutal experiments including testing ammunition on them due to their Ghidorah-derived HealingFactor. InUniverse, Vivienne certainly feels he's absolutely crossed the line when it's revealed in Chapter 6 that he's been [[spoiler:using the mercenaries' refugee labor as unwilling test-subjects]] for experiments with Ghidorah's DNA.
DNA, [[spoiler:turning them into zombies]].
** With San's brothers Ichi and Ni (Ghidorah's [[MultipleHeadCase middle and rightheads]]), heads]] respectively), it's definitely not a case of if but ''when'' they cross it. They destroyed numerous alien worlds before arriving on ancient Earth (San and Ni/Elder Brother could probably be excluded from this MEH, due to San's [[TheAtoner Atoner]] CharacterDevelopment coupled with the implication Ichi/Eldest Brother was the trio's leader); Ichi/Eldest Brother ordered San to transform Vivienne into an InhumanHuman ArtificialHybrid with the intention of granting her a FateWorseThanDeath as an extremely sadistic DisproportionateRetribution for her unknowingly hitting ''accidentally'' pressing Ichi's BerserkButton; TraumaButton; [[spoiler:and Ghidorah has been attempting vicious MindRape and BreakThemByTalking {{Breaking Speech}}es on Viv and San ever since its minds have resurrected, never mind it Ichi having [=MaNi=] inflict ColdBloodedTorture on them]].
*** The absolute latest possible MEH crossing for [=MaNi=]/Elder Brother is when [[spoiler:he mercilessly and ferociously tortures Vivienne while using RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil psychology, and he attempts to tear her and San apart so that he can kill San in front of her in the same way that Ichi/Eldest Brother originally killed Vivienne]].
** ''Fanfic/AbraxasEmptyFullness'': If [[AbusivePrecursors the Makers]] who oversaw [[StartOfDarkness Ghidorah's creation]] didn't cross it by ''brutally'' converting the Dorats into their three-headed form, then they crossed it by setting the resulting PersonOfMassDestruction that's capable of ''single-handedly erasing civilizations and most other life on a planet-wide scale'' on a rival planet to commit [[FinalSolution total genocide]] against the inhabitants.
** With San's brothers Ichi and Ni (Ghidorah's [[MultipleHeadCase middle and right
*** The absolute latest possible MEH crossing for [=MaNi=]/Elder Brother is when [[spoiler:he mercilessly and ferociously tortures Vivienne while using RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil psychology, and he attempts to tear her and San apart so that he can kill San in front of her in the same way that Ichi/Eldest Brother originally killed Vivienne]].
** ''Fanfic/AbraxasEmptyFullness'': If [[AbusivePrecursors the Makers]] who oversaw [[StartOfDarkness Ghidorah's creation]] didn't cross it by ''brutally'' converting the Dorats into their three-headed form, then they crossed it by setting the resulting PersonOfMassDestruction that's capable of ''single-handedly erasing civilizations and most other life on a planet-wide scale'' on a rival planet to commit [[FinalSolution total genocide]] against the inhabitants.
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** They If they hadn't crossed it already, they certainly cross it again (if that's possible) in "Tales as Old as Time", when they admit - in front of Amanda - that the only reason they didn't put her up for adoption when she was born is because her grandmother would have cut them out of her will, and that they hate being stuck with her. Which only makes Norm's "The Reason You Suck" Speech all the more satisfying.
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* ''Fanfic/OneForAllAndEightForTheNinth'':
** The President of the Hero Commission crossed it when she decided to brand as a villain accomplice anyone who gives the slightest support towards the Tea Spillers, for something as simple as ''commenting'' on their videos.
** The MLA, more specifically, Curious, crossed it during the beginning of the War arc, with the Valentine's Day Attack. [[spoiler:Curious used her Quirk on several dozens of MLA foot soldiers, turning them into bombs without their knowledge or consent, and sending them in suicidal bombings across the country. These soldiers were chosen mostly because their Quirks were weak and useless for the MLA cause.]]
** The President of the Hero Commission crossed it when she decided to brand as a villain accomplice anyone who gives the slightest support towards the Tea Spillers, for something as simple as ''commenting'' on their videos.
** The MLA, more specifically, Curious, crossed it during the beginning of the War arc, with the Valentine's Day Attack. [[spoiler:Curious used her Quirk on several dozens of MLA foot soldiers, turning them into bombs without their knowledge or consent, and sending them in suicidal bombings across the country. These soldiers were chosen mostly because their Quirks were weak and useless for the MLA cause.]]
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* By the time of the first story in [[Fanfic/AColdWintersNight A Cold Winter's Night]], it's hinted in passing that [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Owen and Abby]] have long-since crossed it, with offscreen examples in the third story. With the fourth story, the initial crossing and subsequent rationalization is shown in frightening detail from the victim's perspective when they [[spoiler: kill a woman's young daughter because she would have seen them.]]
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* By the time of the first story in [[Fanfic/AColdWintersNight A Cold Winter's Night]], it's hinted in passing that [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Owen and Abby]] have long-since crossed it, with offscreen examples in the third story. With the fourth story, the initial crossing and subsequent rationalization is shown in frightening detail.
