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** And to put it lightly, ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma'' is... ''complex''.

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** And to put it lightly, ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma'' is... ''complex''. Just as an example, the BigBad Zero II is [[spoiler:Sigma and Diana’s KidFromTheFuture who was conceived ''during the game’s events'']].

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** And to put it lightly, ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma'' is... ''complex''.


* ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors''. [[spoiler: Akane is dead, and you've been playing as Akane nine years in the past this entire time. The whole purpose of the present-time Nonary Game is to save her life... nine years in the past.]]

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* ''VisualNovel/ZeroEscape'':
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''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors''. [[spoiler: Akane is dead, and you've been playing as Akane nine years in the past this entire time. The whole purpose of the present-time Nonary Game is to save her life... nine years in the past.]]


** Well, at least Ever17 explains almost everything. ''VisualNovel/{{Remember11}}'' takes it completely the other way; some of the mysteries are solved around 2/3th of the game, but as you reach the ending, more and more mysteries are added, with the game ending with a plot twist that came so out of the blue for some, that many people completely hated the ending. (The fact that even the answers given were so confusing that many players didn't even get those didn't help either.) The game will then confuse you further as you have to try to see every single confusing bad ending through its confusing ending system (would take too many spoilers to explain), and finally rewards you with the final [=TIPs=], which [[EpilepticTrees theoretically would allow you to solve the game]]. Needless to say, to this date, [[WildMassGuessing nobody truly knows the solutions to the mysteries presented]].

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** Well, at least Ever17 ''[=Ever17=]'' explains almost everything. ''VisualNovel/{{Remember11}}'' takes it completely the other way; some of the mysteries are solved around 2/3th of the game, but as you reach the ending, more and more mysteries are added, with the game ending with a plot twist that came so out of the blue for some, that many people completely hated the ending. (The fact that even the answers given were so confusing that many players didn't even get those didn't help either.) The game will then confuse you further as you have to try to see every single confusing bad ending through its confusing ending system (would take too many spoilers to explain), and finally rewards you with the final [=TIPs=], which [[EpilepticTrees theoretically would allow you to solve the game]]. Needless to say, to this date, [[WildMassGuessing nobody truly knows the solutions to the mysteries presented]].


** It takes a while to figure out what is going on in ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry''. The early arcs pretty much consist on one of the main characters going nuts and killing people and then everything seems to get reset in the next arc.

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** It takes a while to figure out what is going on in ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry''. The early arcs pretty much consist on of one of the main characters going nuts and killing people and then everything seems to get reset in the next arc.


* ''Franchise/WhenTheyCry'' in general is a huge Mind Screw because of [[spoiler:Rika Furude and Frederica Bernkastel, though it's confirmed that the witch Bernkastel in ''Umineko'' is an amalgamation of all the Rikas who never made it past June of 1983.]] Well, that and the whole issue with cranking UnreliableNarrator UpToEleven. It's now ''official'' that you can't trust anything but [[spoiler:the parts Battler's narrating in episodes 1-4 and the parts Erika's narrating in episode 5]] of ''Umineko'', and ''Higurashi'' had entire arcs narrated by people who were hallucinating.

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* ''Franchise/WhenTheyCry'' in general is a huge Mind Screw because of [[spoiler:Rika Furude and Frederica Bernkastel, though it's confirmed that the witch Bernkastel in ''Umineko'' is an amalgamation of all the Rikas who never made it past June of 1983.]] Well, that and the whole issue with cranking UnreliableNarrator UpToEleven. It's now ''official'' that you can't trust anything but [[spoiler:the the parts Battler's narrating in episodes Episodes 1-4 and the parts Erika's narrating in episode 5]] Episode 5 of ''Umineko'', and ''Higurashi'' had entire arcs narrated by people who were hallucinating.


** ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry''.
** ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' is ''even worse.'' The plot (at first) is about the main character trying to argue that magic does not exist... to an apparently very real witch. Who claims to have killed him.

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** ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry''.
It takes a while to figure out what is going on in ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry''. The early arcs pretty much consist on one of the main characters going nuts and killing people and then everything seems to get reset in the next arc.
** ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' is ''even worse.'' The plot (at first) is about the main character trying to argue that magic does not exist... to an apparently very real witch. Who claims to have killed him. Even if you go through the entire visual novel more than three times and read the manga (which explains things a lot better), you are still most likely to be left scratching your head at something.


* ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry''.
** Its sister series, ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'', is ''even worse.'' The plot (at first) is about the main character trying to argue that magic does not exist... to an apparently very real witch. Who claims to have killed him.
** ''Franchise/WhenTheyCry'' in general is a huge MindScrew because of [[spoiler:Rika Furude and Frederica Bernkastel, though it's confirmed that the witch Bernkastel in ''Umineko'' is an amalgamation of all the Rikas who never made it past June of 1983.]] Well, that and the whole issue with cranking UnreliableNarrator UpToEleven. It's now ''official'' that you can't trust anything but [[spoiler:the parts Battler's narrating in episodes 1-4 and the parts Erika's narrating in episode 5]] of ''Umineko'', and ''Higurashi'' had entire arcs narrated by people who were hallucinating.




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* ''Franchise/WhenTheyCry'' in general is a huge Mind Screw because of [[spoiler:Rika Furude and Frederica Bernkastel, though it's confirmed that the witch Bernkastel in ''Umineko'' is an amalgamation of all the Rikas who never made it past June of 1983.]] Well, that and the whole issue with cranking UnreliableNarrator UpToEleven. It's now ''official'' that you can't trust anything but [[spoiler:the parts Battler's narrating in episodes 1-4 and the parts Erika's narrating in episode 5]] of ''Umineko'', and ''Higurashi'' had entire arcs narrated by people who were hallucinating.
** ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry''.
** ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' is ''even worse.'' The plot (at first) is about the main character trying to argue that magic does not exist... to an apparently very real witch. Who claims to have killed him.


* Once the Chapter 5 trial in ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has finished, reality has officially checked out. [[spoiler: Not just the game world, but even the game itself starts to glitch out, with garbled messages, glitchy visuals, and dead characters suddenly reappearing to speak with everyone (with nobody even noticing or commenting on it.) By chapter 6, it's revealed that everyone is actually in a VR simulation that's now slowly degrading, and the visual glitches and world-shattering plot twists only get worse from there until [[InterfaceScrew even the interface starts to break down.]] The protagonist also has a number of symbolic mental sequences in the climax as well, and then the characters start tossing around the word "game"... do they mean the in-universe game or the real game that you're playing? Probably both.]]

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* Once the Chapter 5 trial in ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has finished, reality has officially checked out. [[spoiler: Not just the game world, but even the game itself starts to glitch out, with garbled messages, glitchy visuals, and dead characters suddenly reappearing to speak with everyone (with nobody even noticing or commenting on it.) By chapter 6, it's revealed that everyone is actually in a VR simulation that's now slowly degrading, and the visual glitches and world-shattering plot twists only get worse from there until [[InterfaceScrew even the interface starts to break down.]] The protagonist also has a number of symbolic mental sequences in the climax as well, and then before that the characters start tossing around the word "game"... do they mean the in-universe game or the real game that you're playing? Probably both.]]


* Once the Chapter 5 trial in ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has finished, reality has officially checked out. [[spoiler: Not just the game world, but even the game itself starts to glitch out, with garbled messages, glitchy visuals, and dead characters suddenly reappearing to speak with everyone (with nobody even noticing or commenting on it.) By chapter 6, it's revealed that everyone is actually in a VR simulation that's now slowly degrading, and the visual glitches and world-shattering plot twists only get worse from there until [[InterfaceScrew even the interface starts to break down.]]]]

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* Once the Chapter 5 trial in ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has finished, reality has officially checked out. [[spoiler: Not just the game world, but even the game itself starts to glitch out, with garbled messages, glitchy visuals, and dead characters suddenly reappearing to speak with everyone (with nobody even noticing or commenting on it.) By chapter 6, it's revealed that everyone is actually in a VR simulation that's now slowly degrading, and the visual glitches and world-shattering plot twists only get worse from there until [[InterfaceScrew even the interface starts to break down.]]]]
]] The protagonist also has a number of symbolic mental sequences in the climax as well, and then the characters start tossing around the word "game"... do they mean the in-universe game or the real game that you're playing? Probably both.]]


** ''{{Never7}}'' is an odd example- the game's first four routes appear to be part of a fairly straightforward romance VisualNovel with some mystery and supernatural elements. However, the game's fifth route [[spoiler:reveals that the entire game may or may not have been a delusion, some elements that were previously explained with supernatural elements are cast doubt on (as they may also have been caused by the delusion), that other character were possibly having delusions within delusions]]... in the end, the game concludes ambiguously, leaving it up to the player's interpretations to decide [[spoiler:how much of the story was a delusion and how much was real]].
** ''{{Ever17}}'' in increasing amounts as it becomes increasingly obvious to the player, if not the characters, that things just don't add up. They manage to explain it all [[spoiler:into a single continuity even]] but until then you may have to pause to ask yourself things like... actually, explaining the mind screwiness would actually be spoilerific. There are [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse a few strings dangling.]]
** Well, at least Ever17 explains almost everything. ''{{Remember11}}'' takes it completely the other way; some of the mysteries are solved around 2/3th of the game, but as you reach the ending, more and more mysteries are added, with the game ending with a plot twist that came so out of the blue for some, that many people completely hated the ending. (The fact that even the answers given were so confusing that many players didn't even get those didn't help either.) The game will then confuse you further as you have to try to see every single confusing bad ending through its confusing ending system (would take too many spoilers to explain), and finally rewards you with the final [=TIPs=], which [[EpilepticTrees theoretically would allow you to solve the game]]. Needless to say, to this date, [[WildMassGuessing nobody truly knows the solutions to the mysteries presented]].

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** ''{{Never7}}'' ''VisualNovel/{{Never7}}'' is an odd example- the game's first four routes appear to be part of a fairly straightforward romance VisualNovel with some mystery and supernatural elements. However, the game's fifth route [[spoiler:reveals that the entire game may or may not have been a delusion, some elements that were previously explained with supernatural elements are cast doubt on (as they may also have been caused by the delusion), that other character were possibly having delusions within delusions]]... in the end, the game concludes ambiguously, leaving it up to the player's interpretations to decide [[spoiler:how much of the story was a delusion and how much was real]].
** ''{{Ever17}}'' ''VisualNovel/{{Ever17}}'' in increasing amounts as it becomes increasingly obvious to the player, if not the characters, that things just don't add up. They manage to explain it all [[spoiler:into a single continuity even]] but until then you may have to pause to ask yourself things like... actually, explaining the mind screwiness would actually be spoilerific. There are [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse a few strings dangling.]]
** Well, at least Ever17 explains almost everything. ''{{Remember11}}'' ''VisualNovel/{{Remember11}}'' takes it completely the other way; some of the mysteries are solved around 2/3th of the game, but as you reach the ending, more and more mysteries are added, with the game ending with a plot twist that came so out of the blue for some, that many people completely hated the ending. (The fact that even the answers given were so confusing that many players didn't even get those didn't help either.) The game will then confuse you further as you have to try to see every single confusing bad ending through its confusing ending system (would take too many spoilers to explain), and finally rewards you with the final [=TIPs=], which [[EpilepticTrees theoretically would allow you to solve the game]]. Needless to say, to this date, [[WildMassGuessing nobody truly knows the solutions to the mysteries presented]].



* Once the Chapter 5 trial in ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has finished, reality has officially checked out. [[spoiler: Not just the game world, but even the game itself starts to glitch out, with garbled messages, glitchy visuals, and dead characters suddenly reappearing to speak with everyone (with nobody even noticing or commenting on it.) By chapter 6, it's revealed that everyone is actually in a VR simulation that's now slowly degrading, and the visual glitches and world-shattering plot twists only get worse from there until [[InterfaceScrew even the interface starts to break down.]]]]

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* Once the Chapter 5 trial in ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has finished, reality has officially checked out. [[spoiler: Not just the game world, but even the game itself starts to glitch out, with garbled messages, glitchy visuals, and dead characters suddenly reappearing to speak with everyone (with nobody even noticing or commenting on it.) By chapter 6, it's revealed that everyone is actually in a VR simulation that's now slowly degrading, and the visual glitches and world-shattering plot twists only get worse from there until [[InterfaceScrew even the interface starts to break down.]]]]]]]]

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** Its sequel, ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'', makes ''999'' look downright straightforward.

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** Its sequel, ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'', makes ''999'' look downright straightforward. The game uses branching timelines to represent the different choices you make in the game. At one point, though, the protagonist observes that [[spoiler:a choice he made in the present is what affected the ''past'' of the different timelines. Before observing how he shouldn't ''know'' what he did in other timelines in the first place.]] It just gets more convoluted from there.


* Once the Chapter 5 trial in ''SuperDanganRonpa2'' has finished, reality has officially checked out. [[spoiler: Not just the game world, but even the game itself starts to glitch out, with garbled messages, glitchy visuals, and dead characters suddenly reappearing to speak with everyone (with nobody even noticing or commenting on it.) By chapter 6, it's revealed that everyone is actually in a VR simulation that's now slowly degrading, and the visual glitches and world-shattering plot twists only get worse from there until [[InterfaceScrew even the interface starts to break down.]]]]

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* Once the Chapter 5 trial in ''SuperDanganRonpa2'' ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has finished, reality has officially checked out. [[spoiler: Not just the game world, but even the game itself starts to glitch out, with garbled messages, glitchy visuals, and dead characters suddenly reappearing to speak with everyone (with nobody even noticing or commenting on it.) By chapter 6, it's revealed that everyone is actually in a VR simulation that's now slowly degrading, and the visual glitches and world-shattering plot twists only get worse from there until [[InterfaceScrew even the interface starts to break down.]]]]


* ''VisualNovel/PlumbersDontWearTies'' is a supposedly softporn "game" that somehow manages to be this. Let [[WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd The Nerd himself]] [[http://www.gametrailers.com/player/52921.html try to explain this to you as well]].

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* ''VisualNovel/PlumbersDontWearTies'' is a supposedly softporn "game" that somehow manages to be this. Let [[WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd The Nerd himself]] [[http://www.gametrailers.com/player/52921.html try to explain this to you as well]].well]].
* Once the Chapter 5 trial in ''SuperDanganRonpa2'' has finished, reality has officially checked out. [[spoiler: Not just the game world, but even the game itself starts to glitch out, with garbled messages, glitchy visuals, and dead characters suddenly reappearing to speak with everyone (with nobody even noticing or commenting on it.) By chapter 6, it's revealed that everyone is actually in a VR simulation that's now slowly degrading, and the visual glitches and world-shattering plot twists only get worse from there until [[InterfaceScrew even the interface starts to break down.]]]]


* ''NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors''. [[spoiler: Akane is dead, and you've been playing as Akane nine years in the past this entire time. The whole purpose of the present-time Nonary Game is to save her life... nine years in the past.]]

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* ''NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors''.''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors''. [[spoiler: Akane is dead, and you've been playing as Akane nine years in the past this entire time. The whole purpose of the present-time Nonary Game is to save her life... nine years in the past.]]

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